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Post by colnevalleyblue on Mar 5, 2011 21:09:08 GMT 1
Got a response a week back now, and kept meaning to post it on here.....
Thank you for you comments regarding the Safety Team banning flags and banners at the Galpharm Stadium. I do not know who gave you that inormation but let me assure you that you have been misinformed and that is certainly not the case.
The Safety Team has agreed to the use of a large flag, provided by Huddersfield Town Football Club, for 'surfing' etc. This has been properly certified as required by the Safety Team and can be used with the Clubs consent. In fact it was used on a small number of occassions earlier this season but then for some reason interest in using it appears to have diminished.
Standard sized flags can be brought into the stadium and draped over vacant seats etc but must not cover advertising netting or boards as companies have paid to advertise their names etc. As a regular spectator I feel sure you must have seen these flags being draped as I have described?
Poles of any description cannot be brought into the Stadium as they are prevented by Ground Regulations issued by the Football Authorities. The only exception to the pole regulation was again agreed after consultation between the Safety Team, KSDL and Huddersfield Town Football Club that flags with poles that were purchased at the club shops could be brought in to the stadium.
I hope this response clarifies the situation regarding flags.
Yours sincerely
John K Robinson
Safety Officer
Fetch your flags Tuesday!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2011 21:11:43 GMT 1
So why exactly are you only allowed to bring in flags with poles that are bought at the club shop?
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Post by keepmoving on Mar 5, 2011 21:13:40 GMT 1
Poles of any description cannot be brought into the Stadium as they are prevented by Ground Regulations issued by the Football Authorities. The only exception to the pole regulation was again agreed after consultation between the Safety Team, KSDL and Huddersfield Town Football Club that flags with poles that were purchased at the club shops could be brought in to the stadium. Are you lads going to bring some really big fk off flags to the game tuesday then? |
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Post by terrier4life on Mar 5, 2011 21:19:58 GMT 1
do Liverpool have different safety rules to us, on many occasions, esp european nights, there are hundreds of large flags with poles displayed at Anfield. I've never seen any reports of anyone being injured or killed by them. Have you?
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Post by colnevalleyblue on Mar 5, 2011 21:28:19 GMT 1
I would imagine that Liverpool supporters, will have alot more impact and a say on issues such as this, then what Huddersfield Town fans will.
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Post by thrice on Mar 5, 2011 21:35:48 GMT 1
What is a standard sized flag?
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Post by digwon on Mar 5, 2011 21:42:24 GMT 1
What is a standard sized flag? the millbridge flag :nodding: :udders: |
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Post by newspaperjoe on Mar 5, 2011 22:07:30 GMT 1
Seems perfectly reasonable to me, glad to read that. I can honestly say that I've never seen any Town fans waving flags on poles which haven't been bought from the club shop, so I don't really see that as a huge issue.
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Post by Grandfather Berty of Cleck on Mar 5, 2011 22:14:16 GMT 1
Poles of any description cannot be brought into the Stadium as they are prevented by Ground Regulations issued by the Football Authorities. The only exception that flags with poles that were purchased at the club shops could be brought in to the stadium. I hope this response clarifies the situation regarding flags. Yours sincerely John K Robinson Safety Officer Fetch your flags Tuesday! So we can bring flags in if we put them on poles that were bought in the club shop? We can have them saying J K Robinson Is A Wanker |
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Post by Victor Meldrew on Mar 6, 2011 22:25:09 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2011 10:41:53 GMT 1
Seems perfectly reasonable to me, glad to read that. I can honestly say that I've never seen any Town fans waving flags on poles which haven't been bought from the club shop, so I don't really see that as a huge issue. Pozza made a load last season and handed them to the kids in the FM lower to  - much like an auburn Santa Claus. The stewards took them off of everyone citing that they could be construed as weapons... Then later said that "if one of the poles broke then it could have someone's eye out". |
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Post by stevvy on Mar 7, 2011 11:38:22 GMT 1
The stewards took them off of everyone citing that they could be construed as weapons... Then later said that "if one of the poles broke then it could have someone's eye out". Got to love how the stewards claim a flag pole might be construed as a weapon, when so can many other things that get brought to football grounds all the time. Bullshit excuse for taking them off them. |
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Post by Porrohman on Mar 7, 2011 11:47:24 GMT 1
Isn't it racist banning Poles from the stadium ?
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Post by Grandfather Berty of Cleck on Mar 7, 2011 11:49:03 GMT 1
The stewards took them off of everyone citing that they could be construed as weapons... Then later said that "if one of the poles broke then it could have someone's eye out". Got to love how the stewards claim a flag pole might be construed as a weapon, when so can many other things that get brought to football grounds all the time. Bullshit excuse for taking them off them. My mother, who is 68, has been banned from bringing in china cups for her and my dads half time brew !! The old 'weapon' reason. |
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Post by stevvy on Mar 7, 2011 11:54:15 GMT 1
The weapon reason is nothing more than a "we can't find any other good reason to ban them" reason. Practically anything that ends up in the stadium can be classed as a weapon.
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Post by Porrohman on Mar 7, 2011 12:00:16 GMT 1
I got searched against Orient because the steward didn't believe the object in my pocket was my glasses case FFS if I was going to carry anything dangerous surely I'd want to hide it :shake:
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Post by bridgeterrier on Mar 7, 2011 13:07:20 GMT 1
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Post by Torquayterrier on Mar 7, 2011 13:57:11 GMT 1
My mother, who is 68, has been banned from bringing in china cups for her and my dads half time brew !! The old 'weapon' reason. The home made scones have, however, been correctly identified as lethal weapons  The whole thing sounds more to do with increasing sales from the shop rather than genuine health and safety. Maybe Town's merchandise turnover is 'flagging' at the moment? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2011 14:11:38 GMT 1
A sad indictment of the World we live in. OK to bring flags in bought as official merchandise, but bring your home grown one and it gets confiscated...
Does anyone have a flag that they bought from the club shop 10-20 years ago? That would flummox the stewards when you can legitimately claim it's 'official merchandise'...
They'll be checking the temperature of the Oxo in the flasks next...
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Post by eastterrace on Mar 7, 2011 14:13:26 GMT 1
Pathetic. Mr Robinson (and the whole health and safety army) should take at look at the massive flags allowed at Bundesliga games. Still, you never know, Mr Robonson's job might be one of the cuts. Actually, who would miss these people anyway??
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2011 14:15:04 GMT 1
Pathetic. Mr Robinson (and the whole health and safety army) should take at look at the massive flags allowed at Bundesliga games. Still, you never know, Mr Robonson's job might be one of the cuts. Actually, who would miss these people anyway?? The people who sell hi-vis jackets? |
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Post by pozza on Mar 7, 2011 14:52:06 GMT 1
Poles of any description cannot be brought into the Stadium as they are prevented by Ground Regulations issued by the Football Authorities. Fetch your flags Tuesday! The ground regulations issued by the Football Authorities are just a guide and don't have to be followed to the letter, hence the use of flags at Anfield yesterday and at various other grounds in England (Accrington and York spring to mind) Also the fact he states "Poles of any description cannot be brought into the Stadium" but then goes onto to say you can if you buy at the club shop its ok is also a bit of a contradiction don't you think? Surely it doesn't matter where you buy it from, all poles carry the same risk... They have the power to change it, they just don't want to. |
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Post by colnevalleyblue on Mar 7, 2011 18:26:24 GMT 1
I don't really want to point this out and expect to be shot down here.
But one theory I have.
Is that Liverpool fans can take flag poles into the ground which aren't official is because, their fan power and supporters Club will be far, far superior to Huddersfield Town's.
While maybe ten, fifteen people at our Club might feel the need to ask the Club, safety team about this, Liverpool would have hundreds making official complaints.
When you think of Liverpool you think of the Kop and the atmosphere, especially on European nights. It's part of the fabric of their Club.
Obviously the officials at Town have come to an agreement, which allows official flags and poles to be allowed, despite this falling foul of the ground regulations, as nobody would bother buying their flags otherwise.
If they can make the safety team allow official flag poles, then why can't they make the safety team allow unofficial ones.
I don't think they see this as a big enough issue.
Now if that's allowed, then why can't unofficial flags on poles be brought in ?
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Post by pozza on Mar 7, 2011 19:04:41 GMT 1
My only answer to that would be so the club can make money out of the deal, but maybe that's just me being clinical...
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Post by digwon on Mar 7, 2011 19:34:23 GMT 1
or cynical
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2011 19:44:15 GMT 1
What about, buy the official flag, drape that on a seat and fasten the pole to a flag of your own choice or making. Might not be ideal, but you'd have the buggers where you wanted them.
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Post by mids on Mar 7, 2011 20:23:33 GMT 1
Perhaps Mr Robinson suggests 'official flags' are ok because he knows that the poles in them are 'allowable'?
Whereas the poles in 'other flags' can't be readily verified.
This isn't the football club on a profiteering mission....it's Mr Robinson being misinterpreted, surely.
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Post by mids on Mar 7, 2011 20:28:16 GMT 1
Got a response a week back now, and kept meaning to post it on here..... Thank you for you comments regarding the Safety Team banning flags and banners at the Galpharm Stadium. I do not know who gave you that inormation but let me assure you that you have been misinformed and that is certainly not the case. The Safety Team has agreed to the use of a large flag, provided by Huddersfield Town Football Club, for 'surfing' etc. This has been properly certified as required by the Safety Team and can be used with the Clubs consent. In fact it was used on a small number of occassions earlier this season but then for some reason interest in using it appears to have diminished. Standard sized flags can be brought into the stadium and draped over vacant seats etc but must not cover advertising netting or boards as companies have paid to advertise their names etc. As a regular spectator I feel sure you must have seen these flags being draped as I have described? Poles of any description cannot be brought into the Stadium as they are prevented by Ground Regulations issued by the Football Authorities. The only exception to the pole regulation was again agreed after consultation between the Safety Team, KSDL and Huddersfield Town Football Club that flags with poles that were purchased at the club shops could be brought in to the stadium. I hope this response clarifies the situation regarding flags. Yours sincerely John K Robinson Safety Officer No mention of fire certificates then? So, it's now in writing that Mr Robinson and the safety team will allow any 'standard' flag without a pole as long as it doesn't obscure advertising, netting or boards. Sorted!! Mr Robinson can't stop you. If you get stopped, direct the steward to this DATM thread and if not get them to speak to Mr Robinson directly. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2011 20:37:07 GMT 1
I think that flags with 3 Lions on them should be banned from all UK football grounds.
They are French in origin, and therefore discriminate against the English!
(The 3 Lions symbol originates from Aquitane, France, where Richard the Lionheart, or one of the other Richard's, used to spend most of his time.)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2011 21:18:44 GMT 1
I'm sure the stewards will have a counter argument for your reasoning LT. |
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- much like an auburn Santa Claus. The stewards took them off of everyone citing that they could be construed as weapons... Then later said that "if one of the poles broke then it could have someone's eye out".
