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Post by Tanzanian Terrier on Apr 16, 2016 10:39:10 GMT 1
So does anyone know how many SC's we've sold? Utt. Over 11000
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Post by rubicon on Apr 16, 2016 10:56:46 GMT 1
Not really Sepp, just answering the post as logically as possible. Old git I may be, but I've got far better things to do with my time than worry about anything the Government messes around with. It would be a real waste of time. If anyone can tell me one thing, any government has changed, that's been for the better and not a complete cock up I'll be amazed. I do feel sorry for youngsters / folks who now quite literally don't know where they live, based on the fact that their services come from somewhere different. It makes perfect sense to get the cheapest, and quickest service possible, especially for Emergency Services. Ambulances etc all look the same, same equipment, just a different badge on the door, but it doesn't mean I live there. I'm pretty sure Greater Mancunians know its Lancashire they really live in, apart from the ones in Saddleworth of course. We perhaps should have been more bothered in 1974, but it's far too late now. Yorkshire folk, being as they are can argue about owt, and even I can't imagine anyone in so called South Yorksire wanting to be back in West Yorkshire, as in the West Riding as they were / are.
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Post by jonnyboy on Apr 16, 2016 12:15:33 GMT 1
I do feel sorry for youngsters / folks who now quite literally don't know where they live, based on the fact that their services come from somewhere different.
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Post by Captainslapper on Apr 16, 2016 12:21:08 GMT 1
It still is captain..delph and diggle are still yorkshire too Just google is saddleworth still yorkshire and it will tell you...they all field teams in the drakes cricket league..and even prince charles made a comment about the area been in yorkshire when visiting the area...people of saddleworth have even managed to get roads signs changed showing the boundaries of yorks/lancs I did cos I know someone from there and she's always said it wasn't it Yorkshire anymore. from google- 'Saddleworth is a civil parish of the Metropolitan Borough of Oldham in Greater Manchester, England. It comprises several villages and hamlets amongst the west side of the Pennine hills:' or this property piece- www.theguardian.com/money/2011/dec/09/lets-move-to-saddleworth-greater-manchester
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Post by rubicon on Apr 16, 2016 12:35:20 GMT 1
The Guardian eh, wonder where that's printed. This notion of service providers defining where you live is just nonsense. Another example: My local bizzies are Cleveland Police, now please find that on a map, Local Authority or otherwise.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2016 13:16:00 GMT 1
Saddleworth is Yorkshire. I don't come from Kirklees......that's a council and a shit one to add
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2016 13:40:15 GMT 1
of course saddleworth is in yorkshire. do you see a welcome to lancs anywhere before you drive into it?
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Post by bluestripe on Apr 16, 2016 14:33:07 GMT 1
Oldham council recently put up road signs saying "Saddleworth, Historic County of York" to appease. The word Yorkshire shall not be mentioned though.
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Post by Captainslapper on Apr 16, 2016 15:04:39 GMT 1
of course saddleworth is in yorkshire. do you see a welcome to lancs anywhere before you drive into it? well you wouldn't see welcome to Lancs cos its not in Lancashire either! Its in Greater Manchester.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2016 15:56:37 GMT 1
Definitely Yorkshire.
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Post by Horny Horne on Apr 16, 2016 16:42:12 GMT 1
Should be a few bought this week after today...
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Post by EastCoastTerrier on Apr 16, 2016 16:51:18 GMT 1
Officially playing Villa next year...
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Post by COWleySHED on Apr 16, 2016 17:38:18 GMT 1
I was just saying this today - piss poor we can't sell 15000 season tickets at £179, what is actually stopping people buying them? Who at the club has said we haven't sold 15,000 tickets? You are right we have sold 38000
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Post by COWleySHED on Apr 16, 2016 17:39:05 GMT 1
I was just saying this today - piss poor we can't sell 15000 season tickets at £179, what is actually stopping people buying them? Its A small Town, even at this amazing price, 15 k is the absolute max wed sell imo. The crowd was only 12 k last saturday, Hull had 2 k. Its real life. We dont have big support. How many did we sell in league 1 in 2008?
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Post by Captainslapper on Apr 16, 2016 17:42:07 GMT 1
about 16000- roughly the same amount we'll sell this time.
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Post by bluebeard on Apr 16, 2016 18:27:33 GMT 1
of course saddleworth is in yorkshire. do you see a welcome to lancs anywhere before you drive into it? well you wouldn't see welcome to Lancs cos its not in Lancashire either! Its in Greater Manchester. Saddleworth is still in Yorkshire and always will be, well that's what most folk around here will tell you. The folk around here never wanted to go under Oldham, but it was to far for the services of Kirklees to travel to so the locals had no choice really Greater Manchester is a county and has nothing to do with Manchester council, but Manchester council wanted Oldham to come under their magic wand, and it was the same with Stockport. The folk of both towns said "no way Jose" and told Manchester to shove it where the sun doesn't shine.
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Post by KingNeil on Apr 16, 2016 19:57:50 GMT 1
Thats the trouble with these council signs they fool people....saddleworth uppermill delph dobcross never left yorkshire only changed local councils...there are lots of town fans in uppermill and they are proud yorkshiremen
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Post by Captainslapper on Apr 16, 2016 20:40:43 GMT 1
The people of saddleworth might consider themselves to be in yorkshire. They might even still think it is in yorkshire. But don't shoot the messenger, its in the county of Greater Manchester. It isn't anything to do with councils, its to do with the address- saddleworth, Greater Manchester.
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Post by rubicon on Apr 16, 2016 21:14:25 GMT 1
No it isn't to do with the address as I explained earlier.Royal Mail did exactly what they wanted in different areas. Plenty of places in Yorks and Durham, Great Ayton, Stokesley, Sedgefield etc were given Cleveland addresses because that's where the sorting Office was. It confused the hell out of the thickies in .Sedgefield, who even though they drove past the County Durham sign on the way home from Stockton, still thought they lived in Cleveland. Does anyone use Kirklees on their address.mi don't live there, but certainly my Dad doesn't.
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Post by Captainslapper on Apr 16, 2016 21:26:21 GMT 1
Nobody uses Kirklees. It isn't the county we live in, its the metropolitan borough of this part of west yorkshire. Im not sure Royal mail are responsible deciding which county a place is in.
I don't understand why Saddleworth isn't in the county of Greater manchester when it's within the boundaries of the county of Greater Manchester and its address is Saddleworth, Greater Manchester??
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2016 21:29:23 GMT 1
The people of saddleworth might consider themselves to be in yorkshire. They might even still think it is in yorkshire. But don't shoot the messenger, its in the county of Greater Manchester. It isn't anything to do with councils, its to do with the address- saddleworth, Greater Manchester. Brighouse has a Huddersfield area dialling code. Is it in Huddersfield?
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Post by Captainslapper on Apr 16, 2016 21:35:35 GMT 1
The people of saddleworth might consider themselves to be in yorkshire. They might even still think it is in yorkshire. But don't shoot the messenger, its in the county of Greater Manchester. It isn't anything to do with councils, its to do with the address- saddleworth, Greater Manchester. Brighouse has a Huddersfield area dialling code. Is it in Huddersfield? Mirfield has a wakefield postcode... but I don't get your point. Anyone can type either west yorkshire or Greater manchester into google maps and it will clearly show where the boundaries are between the 2 counties. I don't blame the good folk or Saddleworth ( or uppermill etc) wanting to be in yorkshire and if it was up to me they would be, but Im afraid the simple truth of it is that they aren't.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2016 0:50:06 GMT 1
Who at the club has said we haven't sold 15,000 tickets? You are right we have sold 38000 Who at the club has said we have sold 38000? The probable answer is.... nobody. You're just being silly aren't you?
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Post by rubicon on Apr 17, 2016 6:09:20 GMT 1
Royal Mail did have different systems for different areas. They did use Cleveland for Sedgefield which is in Durham, because it had a TS postcode, but didn't dare do the same for Richmond with a DL Darlington postcode, and nor was this the only example of them doing as they liked. It was up to each regional manager. My point was only that Royal Mail don't decide it on which County you live in, but on which sorting office it goes through and if they can get away with it. This got so bad and confusing, Cleveland no longer existing etc that their OFFICIAL advice now is not to use the County whatsoever. See link. Of course as postcodes are supposed to be so brilliant, they could have just done that in the first place, but as always with monopolies waited until they'd confused the shit out of everyone. We'll have to disagree about where Saddleworth is then Captain, but to me it will always be Yorkshire. In 1974 and numerous times since, the Government have messed around with the boundaries continuously usually for political advantage, both parties involved. They really couldn't as I said organise the proverbial. The whole thing could have been avoided in 1974 if they'd just insisted that no matter who provides your services, roads should be signed with geographic Counties, Royal Mail address them as such, and Ordnance Survey portray them on maps. An O.S map showing Authorities these days is a complete and utter dogs mess of small shitty little areas like the four that used to be Cleveland. I'm sure you won't agree, but it's a farce, and the traditional Counties should be like American States, sacrosanct in their identity, not pissed around with. personal.help.royalmail.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/81/~/clear-addressing---how-to-address-your-mail
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Post by rubicon on Apr 17, 2016 6:18:38 GMT 1
So officially Captain the address isn't Greater Manchester, because Royal Mail say it isn't! As the people who live there and think they're in Yorkshire are deluded in your eyes, what's the situation then for those born there when it was Yorkshire, and according to you now it isn't.. Are they still Yorkshire men and women, or are they now Lancastrians in your eyes? Lesser things have started wars, and maybe you too wouldn't like being forcibly repatriated.
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Post by COWleySHED on Apr 17, 2016 8:47:27 GMT 1
You are right we have sold 38000 Who at the club has said we have sold 38000? The probable answer is.... nobody. You're just being silly aren't you? Well so are you we clearly have not sold 15000 or else they wudnt still be on sale do you expect us to announce when 24000 have gone sorry no away fans this year we don't have any room!!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2016 9:15:44 GMT 1
Who at the club has said we have sold 38000? The probable answer is.... nobody. You're just being silly aren't you? Well so are you we clearly have not sold 15000 or else they wudnt still be on sale do you expect us to announce when 24000 have gone sorry no away fans this year we don't have any room!! Cast your mind back to when we initially put 10,000 tickets on sale. When we hit that figure did the club announce it? No, not until we'd sold 11,000. Then they upped the figure to 15,000. Perhaps the final figure will be higher i don't know, but then again neither do you. No we won't be selling the ground out that would breach fa rules, however selling 16,000 wouldn't.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2016 9:35:00 GMT 1
The people of saddleworth might consider themselves to be in yorkshire. They might even still think it is in yorkshire. But don't shoot the messenger, its in the county of Greater Manchester. It isn't anything to do with councils, its to do with the address- saddleworth, Greater Manchester. Brighouse has a Huddersfield area dialling code. Is it in Huddersfield? The Nags Head pub at Ainley Top has a HD2 post code and an 01422 dialling code.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2016 10:22:21 GMT 1
I have a Leeds postcode, Selby council,we are in North Yorkshire but our postal address says West Yorkshire. Confused you will be.
The boundary of Yorkshire has not changed. The council borough has. So saddleworth is still in Yorkshire just run by Oldham council.
Don't see what's so hard to understand. Its historic.......like our league wins they still happened although sky/the premier league might not agree
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