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Post by Yuta be a terrier on May 1, 2016 7:55:10 GMT 1
Exactly the sort of player we need to be looking at if we want to kick on. The number 10 needs to be a match winner, capable of creating something out of nothing. Do we have that currently? I like Paterson but there's a huge gulf between him and someone of Tomlins ilk. For me this is the position that requires an established and consequently more expensive player. We probably couldn't afford him at all now after his Bristol performances but it's the standard of loan player that would make the difference.
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Post by workshyfop on May 1, 2016 8:49:35 GMT 1
I absolutely hate the bloke, but agree he's a good player and that's the level we need to be looking at. It's going to be an interesting summer I reckon. Yesterday's result will have left DW and DH in no doubt that we need to seriously strengthen if we're to push on next season. Two German defenders (and VLP) is a good start. We probably need another four outfield players plus a couple of keepers.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on May 1, 2016 8:54:20 GMT 1
Huge gulf between paterson and tomlin ? Not sure about that
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on May 1, 2016 9:00:29 GMT 1
He is a great player and would gladly have him here. Is he better than Paterson, probably, but why can't he get into the Bournemouth team if he is so great and why did Middlesbrough sell him on? And why is he only at Bristol City and not Derby, Brighton or Burnley?
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Post by Chips Longhorn on May 1, 2016 9:04:58 GMT 1
He is a great player and would gladly have him here. Is he better than Paterson, probably, but why can't he get into the Bournemouth team if he is so great and why did Middlesbrough sell him on? And why is he only at Bristol City and not Derby, Brighton or Burnley? Cos he's a bit tubby ?
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on May 1, 2016 9:12:37 GMT 1
He is a great player and would gladly have him here. Is he better than Paterson, probably, but why can't he get into the Bournemouth team if he is so great and why did Middlesbrough sell him on? And why is he only at Bristol City and not Derby, Brighton or Burnley? Cos he's a bit tubby ? Probably Ted.
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Yuta be a terrier
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That Gary Taylor fletcher will never make a footballer.....
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on May 1, 2016 9:17:58 GMT 1
If he was getting in the Bournemouth team or on loan and tearing it up at Derby Brighton or Burnley then he wouldn't get a mention on this board because he would be way out of our league. The way I see it is he is the top of end of what quality players would come to town. His record at Bristol is awesome and he has done well wherever he has been. Paterson for me doesn't dominate games like tomlin does (not to say he won't in future). If next season is 'the big push' then we need as many established quality players as we can get.
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Post by upthetown on May 1, 2016 9:21:18 GMT 1
Not sure Tomlin has the fitness or workrate for Wagner. Paterson is a similar standard anyway.
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Post by Lard Buttie on May 1, 2016 9:24:05 GMT 1
Tomlin's goal yesterday was different gravy - he does like to score worldy's
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Post by shawsie on May 1, 2016 9:25:49 GMT 1
Exactly the sort of player we need to be looking at if we want to kick on. The number 10 needs to be a match winner, capable of creating something out of nothing. Do we have that currently? I like Paterson but there's a huge gulf between him and someone of Tomlins ilk. For me this is the position that requires an established and consequently more expensive player. We probably couldn't afford him at all now after his Bristol performances but it's the standard of loan player that would make the difference. No there isn't! Tomlin is exactly the same as the likes of lolley, scans, pato. That's why he's at brizzle and not at boro where he rarely featured as a starter. He doesn't do it regularly and whilst he has talent to burn, he is far from consistent. You are right though - we can't afford him. Ludicrously over priced and wages beyond ridiculous. If he does a Boyd and gets consistency then he will be the real deal but I can't see it happening now.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2016 9:31:05 GMT 1
The fact Tomlin always performs against Town says more about our continual failure to sort our weak defence out than it does about him
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on May 1, 2016 9:46:31 GMT 1
No doubting he is a decent player but is he that much better than Pato? I don't think so but then again Paterson may well not be a Town player next season.
Either way I wouldn't want us to go for him because players of his standard are probably common as muck in Europe and we wouldn't have to pay a fraction of what he would cost, the price inflation of good players in this division has got stupid over the past couple of years, the more time and money we spend scouting in the continent the better off we'll be.
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on May 1, 2016 10:16:12 GMT 1
16 goals in 15 for Bristol so it isn't just us that can't mark him
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Post by Grandfather Berty of Cleck on May 1, 2016 10:18:25 GMT 1
Huge gulf between paterson and tomlin ? Not sure about that Definitely. It was like man v boy yesterday.
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Post by Grandfather Berty of Cleck on May 1, 2016 10:20:20 GMT 1
Not sure Tomlin has the fitness or workrate for Wagner. Paterson is a similar standard anyway. Believe me, he was everywhere yesterday.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on May 1, 2016 10:25:03 GMT 1
Huge gulf between paterson and tomlin ? Not sure about that Definitely. It was like man v boy yesterday. The key word Bertie is YESTERDAY
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Post by saintlyterrier on May 1, 2016 10:36:01 GMT 1
Note that he isn't the "fat ba****d" of thr past. He was looking quite slim yesterday. He was the fulcrum of the city attack, from a very deep position. He played well, but that has not been the issue with him. The question is whether he could adhere to the requirements of a specific regime, and not walk out in a fit of pique.
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Post by upthetown on May 1, 2016 11:15:12 GMT 1
Undoubtedly a good player. Imagine his wages will be high given his transfer from big spending Boro to big spending Bournemouth.
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Post by Melc on May 1, 2016 11:21:19 GMT 1
He is a great player and would gladly have him here. Is he better than Paterson, probably, but why can't he get into the Bournemouth team if he is so great and why did Middlesbrough sell him on? And why is he only at Bristol City and not Derby, Brighton or Burnley? Cos he's a bit tubby ? He might be but I bet he does not get shoved off the ball like our light weight midfielders.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on May 1, 2016 11:34:51 GMT 1
He might be but I bet he does not get shoved off the ball like our light weight midfielders. But that's probably why he is playing at a bottom third championship club having failed to cut it higher up the ladder
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Post by deadleg on May 1, 2016 12:51:22 GMT 1
He didn't fail to cut it at Middlesbrough though, his form there in a side that finished a few points from promotion was what earned him a Premiership move.
He's a bottom third Championship player because Bristol City did a damned good bit of business with the loan move, but he'll be on more clubs' radars next time around. More than a goal a game from attacking midfield will see to that.
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Post by kes on May 1, 2016 12:52:32 GMT 1
Probably on 20 grand a week.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2016 12:59:11 GMT 1
Huge gulf between paterson and tomlin ? Not sure about that Yes I think Paterson could go on to be the better player of the two. Tomlin is good when given time & space as he clearly was yesterday. Patterson is that rare player who can be dangerous and effective without it.
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Post by harris on May 1, 2016 14:16:54 GMT 1
Would love him at Town, creative goal scoring midfielder. Patersons good but Tomlin is a step above
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Post by wtd on May 1, 2016 15:11:57 GMT 1
He is a great player and would gladly have him here. Is he better than Paterson, probably, but why can't he get into the Bournemouth team if he is so great and why did Middlesbrough sell him on? And why is he only at Bristol City and not Derby, Brighton or Burnley? Because he's not committed to any cause.
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on May 1, 2016 15:21:12 GMT 1
Exactly the sort of player we need to be looking at if we want to kick on. The number 10 needs to be a match winner, capable of creating something out of nothing. Do we have that currently? I like Paterson but there's a huge gulf between him and someone of Tomlins ilk. For me this is the position that requires an established and consequently more expensive player. We probably couldn't afford him at all now after his Bristol performances but it's the standard of loan player that would make the difference. Can't remember how many times he has carved us up over the years. For a fat lad he's just got that bit of power and pace that we haven't had in the position for a long time. Should have snapped up him and Boyd 5 years ago. Wildshuk at Wigan is similar and will be a power in Championship next season.
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Post by E4b on May 1, 2016 16:05:22 GMT 1
Would love him at town, a proper footballer. Too bad he is well out of our price range.
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on May 1, 2016 21:16:52 GMT 1
No doubting he is a decent player but is he that much better than Pato? I don't think so but then again Paterson may well not be a Town player next season. Either way I wouldn't want us to go for him because players of his standard are probably common as muck in Europe and we wouldn't have to pay a fraction of what he would cost, the price inflation of good players in this division has got stupid over the past couple of years, the more time and money we spend scouting in the continent the better off we'll be. He has power and pace. We don't have much of that. Paterson has different qualities.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on May 1, 2016 21:55:03 GMT 1
Much better than we have, compare him to hogg or whitehead, cant touch this bloke.
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Post by shawsie on May 1, 2016 22:02:59 GMT 1
Much better than we have, compare him to hogg or whitehead, cant touch this bloke. With respect nick, hogg nor whitehead are anywhere near comparable to tomlin. Huws, VLP, pato and bunn maybe but not the first two - different positions for a start! If tomlin was as good as folks say, and as consistent then why brizzle?! Hes an impact player and a good one.......but if he was that good then surely a higher profile move from bournemouth would have happened?
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