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Post by impact on Jun 21, 2019 10:03:37 GMT 1
I think the club hold the option of a years extension, so technically a 2 year contract remaining. Didn't realise we had a 1-yr extension option with him. Mind you, these can get complicated. If Town has a UEC (unilateral extension clause) with him, then this would give Town the exlusive right to extend the employment relationship with Billing. If he has a reciprocal clause, then both parties would need to agree to the extension. And, as far as I know, even a UEC can be contested, for instance, in the event of the player not being legally advised prior to signing. Here's quite an interesting article on the subject: www.lawinsport.com/topics/articles/item/unilateral-extension-options-in-football-contracts-are-they-valid-and-enforceableThe club have the option. The mutual seems kinda pointless to me, as you'd just agree a new contract on the same terms if both parties are happy, surely?
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Post by Baby-face Frankenstein on Jun 21, 2019 10:17:22 GMT 1
Didn't realise we had a 1-yr extension option with him. Mind you, these can get complicated. If Town has a UEC (unilateral extension clause) with him, then this would give Town the exlusive right to extend the employment relationship with Billing. If he has a reciprocal clause, then both parties would need to agree to the extension. And, as far as I know, even a UEC can be contested, for instance, in the event of the player not being legally advised prior to signing.Here's quite an interesting article on the subject: www.lawinsport.com/topics/articles/item/unilateral-extension-options-in-football-contracts-are-they-valid-and-enforceableMis-selling of footballers... Who'd a think it!!! In this day and age, it does seem like something that is massively in favour of the club. On the other hand, of course, it does protect us from him being able to go on a "Bosman" next year if our asking price isn't met in the meantime. Still trying to work out (objectively) how a UEC benefits a player, but it's still early yet for me.
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Post by ritchie on Jun 21, 2019 10:23:46 GMT 1
Did I dream this or did Bournemouth actually pay £20m for Solanke? He's absolutely shite. They have a history of spending a lot on over-priced England based players. Ibe cost 15m and Ake 20m as well. ake overpriced? eh? had a very good season and will make them plenty of profit
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Post by Baby-face Frankenstein on Jun 21, 2019 10:40:42 GMT 1
Didn't realise we had a 1-yr extension option with him. Mind you, these can get complicated. If Town has a UEC (unilateral extension clause) with him, then this would give Town the exlusive right to extend the employment relationship with Billing. If he has a reciprocal clause, then both parties would need to agree to the extension. And, as far as I know, even a UEC can be contested, for instance, in the event of the player not being legally advised prior to signing. Here's quite an interesting article on the subject: www.lawinsport.com/topics/articles/item/unilateral-extension-options-in-football-contracts-are-they-valid-and-enforceableThe club have the option. The mutual seems kinda pointless to me, as you'd just agree a new contract on the same terms if both parties are happy, surely? Not sure how popular the reciprocal extension clauses are in football. But I'd have thought (objectively speaking) a "mutual" would make more sense for both parties as the UEC is, from what I can tell (and rightly or wrongly) massively in favour of the club. Another one to ask DH/PH in the next Q&A session (as to whether we implement the UEC or the reciprocal). I would guess the UEC as there's less chance of us getting lowballed (looking at it subjectively :-)).
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Post by impact on Jun 21, 2019 12:52:08 GMT 1
They have a history of spending a lot on over-priced England based players. Ibe cost 15m and Ake 20m as well. ake overpriced? eh? had a very good season and will make them plenty of profit 20m for a guy who'd made about 30 career starts was. It's not to say it won't turn out to be good business, but it was over the odds at the time. That's been their model recently though. At every level they've spent a fair bit (relatively) on players - some have hit, some have flopped. But with inflation as it is, even a 50% hit rate will earn you big bucks.
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Post by impact on Jun 21, 2019 13:02:50 GMT 1
The club have the option. The mutual seems kinda pointless to me, as you'd just agree a new contract on the same terms if both parties are happy, surely? Not sure how popular the reciprocal extension clauses are in football. But I'd have thought (objectively speaking) a "mutual" would make more sense for both parties as the UEC is, from what I can tell (and rightly or wrongly) massively in favour of the club. Another one to ask DH/PH in the next Q&A session (as to whether we implement the UEC or the reciprocal). I would guess the UEC as there's less chance of us getting lowballed (looking at it subjectively :-)). I'm thinking more practically, they seem a bit pointless. If both sides are happy for a 1 year extension, then wouldn't they just write a new contract with the same terms as before? The club will hold the power with the option, but it also incentives the player if they have a good contract in order to get the extension. But ultimately its a failsafe for the club both to not keep a highly paid player when they can't afford him, but also to keep a valuable player who thinks of just running down their contract. Equally you have the contracts which trigger a 1 year extension if a player plays x games in a season, which is more in the player's favour presumably towards the end of their careers.
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Jun 21, 2019 13:10:54 GMT 1
Town have routinely put the club option into their contracts particularly those in the players that got us promotion. The only 3 that didn't have a club option recently that I recall were Williams, Depoitre and Lossl.
2 years ago we triggered Hiwula's extra year to seemingly only to get a fee for him, if the UEC existed in Town's contracts then I'm sure he'd have preferred to have been released and then have been free to negotiate his future with more clubs.
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Post by k1htafc on Jun 21, 2019 19:06:08 GMT 1
You would think after a few years in and around the Everton team, that someone would tell Jonjoe Kenny not to attempt slide tackles in the box...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2019 21:02:41 GMT 1
U21s need to him off Boothroyd and bring someone youthful and fresh in. New ideas and akin to Southgate. The talent in that team is unreal, they should be doing better than they are and that is a bit embarrassing tonight.
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Post by Porrohman on Jun 21, 2019 21:04:40 GMT 1
Where's Tiny Tim to slag them off like he does the women 🤔
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Post by ringdisco on Jun 21, 2019 21:50:45 GMT 1
U21s need to him off Boothroyd and bring someone youthful and fresh in. New ideas and akin to Southgate. The talent in that team is unreal, they should be doing better than they are and that is a bit embarrassing tonight. Romania have brought a lot of full internationals to this cup, so wouldn't say it's embarrassing to be taught a lesson by Hagi, Puscas and the rest.
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Post by rastrick32 on Jun 21, 2019 21:56:40 GMT 1
Hagi's son eh? Now I feel old. Hagi senior is one of my all time favourite players. He could completely run a game.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2019 21:57:34 GMT 1
U21s need to him off Boothroyd and bring someone youthful and fresh in. New ideas and akin to Southgate. The talent in that team is unreal, they should be doing better than they are and that is a bit embarrassing tonight. Romania have brought a lot of full internationals to this cup, so wouldn't say it's embarrassing to be taught a lesson by Hagi, Puscas and the rest. Ianis Hagi that flopped at Fiorentina and is back at daddy’s club. Decent player, but not on Fodens level. They’ve good players, but that England squad is littered with talent, playing the style he has, was the downfall. Time for a change. Romania play well as a collective team with a few decent ish players. England have quality and the man in charge can’t get them playing collectively as one. It needs a Southgate style man to come in and rejuvenate the whole set up. Can’t just have a half decent 1st team doing well, needs to go from the bottom to the top, U21s are behind time with Ady I think
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Post by ringdisco on Jun 21, 2019 22:16:10 GMT 1
Romania have brought a lot of full internationals to this cup, so wouldn't say it's embarrassing to be taught a lesson by Hagi, Puscas and the rest. Ianis Hagi that flopped at Fiorentina and is back at daddy’s club. Decent player, but not on Fodens level. They’ve good players, but that England squad is littered with talent, playing the style he has, was the downfall. Time for a change. Romania play well as a collective team with a few decent ish players. England have quality and the man in charge can’t get them playing collectively as one. It needs a Southgate style man to come in and rejuvenate the whole set up. Can’t just have a half decent 1st team doing well, needs to go from the bottom to the top, U21s are behind time with Ady I think I'm not saying Boothroyd is the way forward, don't get me wrong haha. Foden got 30 mins, Dowell, who might end up at Town, started, so Championship standard? I have no idea who the defenders are except Kenny and he is garbage. Barnes is decent, and Maddison should be the best on the field, but Calvert-Lewin leading the line? poor.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2019 22:32:12 GMT 1
Ianis Hagi that flopped at Fiorentina and is back at daddy’s club. Decent player, but not on Fodens level. They’ve good players, but that England squad is littered with talent, playing the style he has, was the downfall. Time for a change. Romania play well as a collective team with a few decent ish players. England have quality and the man in charge can’t get them playing collectively as one. It needs a Southgate style man to come in and rejuvenate the whole set up. Can’t just have a half decent 1st team doing well, needs to go from the bottom to the top, U21s are behind time with Ady I think I'm not saying Boothroyd is the way forward, don't get me wrong haha. Foden got 30 mins, Dowell, who might end up at Town, started, so Championship standard? I have no idea who the defenders are except Kenny and he is garbage. Barnes is decent, and Maddison should be the best on the field, but Calvert-Lewin leading the line? poor. You’ve a bloke who bagged goals in the Championship with Villa on the bench. Calvert Lewin is not a striker, that’s where he has cocked up, his selection has been very odd. Even if some are Championship currently, most are Premier League. It’s a site lot better than Vittorul and Cluj to name a couple of Romanian teams. Vittorul are a product of youth and fair game to them, but the level of football is seriously not that good. Cristian Lopez was the leading scorer out there when he went ffs. Individually they may not all be good, but collectively they are. England have got it wrong on the collectively part and Boothroyd needs to be binned( he will by the end of summer)
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Post by k1man999 on Jun 24, 2019 21:42:50 GMT 1
Watching the u21, they are terrible. hope we aren't signing any of these defender's can't do basics.
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Post by impact on Jun 24, 2019 22:55:07 GMT 1
Watching the u21, they are terrible. hope we aren't signing any of these defender's can't do basics. 3 of them were in the championship last season, where defending is an afterthought.
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Post by Bojaj Horseman on Jun 25, 2019 1:14:11 GMT 1
Nahki Wells puts Bermuda 2-0 up against Nicaragua. This is the first time they've qualified for a major tournament, and could be their first win. Would be a massive achievement if they hold on.
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Post by Porrohman on Jun 25, 2019 20:34:18 GMT 1
Never mind that Aussie ref who's moving to the Championship, can we have this ref instead....
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Post by Town Duppy on Jun 25, 2019 20:40:09 GMT 1
Never mind that Aussie ref who's moving to the Championship, can we have this ref instead.... So you'd like a bit of ref then?
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Post by Porrohman on Jun 25, 2019 22:09:18 GMT 1
Never mind that Aussie ref who's moving to the Championship, can we have this ref instead.... So you'd like a bit of ref then? That one, yes please 🥰
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Post by Town Duppy on Jun 29, 2019 21:30:37 GMT 1
F**k VAR.
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Post by Porrohman on Jul 6, 2019 23:22:09 GMT 1
🤣🤣🤣
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Post by Town Duppy on Jul 10, 2019 21:43:59 GMT 1
Chants of "you're getting sacked in the morning" and "can we play you every week" coming from the Bohemians fans.
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Post by yorkshiretripod on Jul 10, 2019 23:24:09 GMT 1
Quick edit! I fell for that. Whoops! I wanted that to be true. 🙄
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Post by Porrohman on Jul 11, 2019 14:30:11 GMT 1
Looks like it'll be nice. '95 means I've got a soft spot for Griffin Park though
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Jul 11, 2019 16:17:53 GMT 1
Looks like it'll be nice. '95 means I've got a soft spot for Griffin Park. I'm presuming that the floodlights are built into the rooves. Going to pretty damned dark on a cold winter's Tuesday otherwise. EDIT: I've just looked again and there seem to be some pylons at two corners and in the centre of the two main sides which are probably for the lights.
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Post by Porrohman on Jul 11, 2019 23:45:07 GMT 1
Accrington Stanley 2-1 Olympique Marseilles 😲
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Post by Porrohman on Jul 13, 2019 9:16:26 GMT 1
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Post by Porrohman on Jul 14, 2019 11:50:20 GMT 1
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