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Post by blueandbrightside on Feb 24, 2017 17:23:29 GMT 1
Town are the only team that have been in the top 6 all season Except when we weren't of course ;-). Don't think anyone has managed this have they? |
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Feb 24, 2017 17:36:45 GMT 1
Can't recall us being out of the top six having won the first two games?
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Feb 24, 2017 17:41:27 GMT 1
We are going to stuff them on tv, We destroyed Brighton.
Can't wait.
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Feb 24, 2017 17:41:41 GMT 1
Can't recall us being out of the top six having won the first two games? Stat recently mentioned on the football league show |
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Post by terryya on Feb 24, 2017 17:51:50 GMT 1
We spent one game in 8th after 5 matches without a win.
Only team to stay in top 8 all season though.
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Post by blueandbrightside on Feb 24, 2017 21:41:31 GMT 1
Can't recall us being out of the top six having won the first two games? Stat recently mentioned on the football league show And we all know how accurate our media coverage is don't we! We definitely dropped out, albeit briefly. If you look back on here you'll probably find a meltdown post or too to confirm it.... and predict the start of a relegation battle. |
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Post by paulsg on Feb 24, 2017 21:49:24 GMT 1
After the Blackburn away game, after we hammered them 1-1!
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Post by itsmemick on Feb 24, 2017 22:26:41 GMT 1
Shelvey can hit a pass to anyone,when he's up for it😁 that's the kind of player a team pushing for promotion needs,100% if he can be arsed Including Danny Ward about 8 times at their place and the Villa 'keeper about 4 times on Monday. I wouldn't swop Mooy for 3 Shelvey's. Additionally, just getting a bit sick of these so called bigger clubs talking about "depth of Squad" "squad Quality" Newcastle and Brighton make 8 changes for a cup game and lose to Oxford & Lincoln whilst we make 8 changes and beat Rochdale who are higher opposition then make 7 changes against a team in the Champions League and draw. And please don't anyone mention City making 8 changes as their changes are swopping Aguero for Gabriel Jesus and then bringing on £100m worth of subs on the hour. We have the best squad in this league. Making 7 or 8 changes and doing well or not will have more to do with how well the incoming players work together rather than how good they are. Change any 2 or 3 of the 8 and they'll probably do OK, change all 8 and the understanding goes out of the window. Our 8 changes was the entire back 5 and one player played only his second senior game, the previous being in 2013. We had 2 kids playing who had played 1 game each in the previous round and another returning after almost a year out. The headline of 8 changes doesn't tell the full story and was at a time when we had 3 important players away in Africa on international duty. We also had injuries to experienced players and any team would have struggle at that time because we we're not only into our 2nd 11, we were into kids who would never have been considered. Back to the game, Gayle is only likely to miss the game tomorrow as he's not badly injured, it looks like it's a lack of confidence because he's had a few hamstring injuries in the past while at Palace. |
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Post by itsmemick on Feb 24, 2017 22:40:07 GMT 1
Shelvey isn't fit to lace the wizard of oz's boots We'll see, I've watched games where Shelvey hasn't missed a pass all game and he's done that for game after game. Nearly every player will have a bad spell, the good thing about Shelvey is that he never hides when it's not going well and he'll play his way out of it. Against Villa his passing was off for most of the first half, that changed after the break when the whole team picked their games up. Sometimes his passes going off are not his fault because normally the person he's hitting it to isn't on their game and would normally have got on the end of it. |
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Post by hughphamism on Feb 25, 2017 0:14:06 GMT 1
Including Danny Ward about 8 times at their place and the Villa 'keeper about 4 times on Monday. I wouldn't swop Mooy for 3 Shelvey's. Additionally, just getting a bit sick of these so called bigger clubs talking about "depth of Squad" "squad Quality" Newcastle and Brighton make 8 changes for a cup game and lose to Oxford & Lincoln whilst we make 8 changes and beat Rochdale who are higher opposition then make 7 changes against a team in the Champions League and draw. And please don't anyone mention City making 8 changes as their changes are swopping Aguero for Gabriel Jesus and then bringing on £100m worth of subs on the hour. We have the best squad in this league. Making 7 or 8 changes and doing well or not will have more to do with how well the incoming players work together rather than how good they are. Change any 2 or 3 of the 8 and they'll probably do OK, change all 8 and the understanding goes out of the window. Our 8 changes was the entire back 5 and one player played only his second senior game, the previous being in 2013. We had 2 kids playing who had played 1 game each in the previous round and another returning after almost a year out. The headline of 8 changes doesn't tell the full story and was at a time when we had 3 important players away in Africa on international duty. We also had injuries to experienced players and any team would have struggle at that time because we we're not only into our 2nd 11, we were into kids who would never have been considered. Back to the game, Gayle is only likely to miss the game tomorrow as he's not badly injured, it looks like it's a lack of confidence because he's had a few hamstring injuries in the past while at Palace. We've made 8 or so changes changes and the understanding hasn't gone out of the window. Burton away - won 1-0 Wigan away - won 1-0 Port Vale at home - won 4-0 Rochdale away - won 4-0 Man City at home - drew 0-0 Our complete back 5 change hasn't conceded a goal. This is why Town fans are confident of dealing with what's coming. We'll be full strength for the games that matter so Barnsley on Saturday, reserves again vs City, full strength vs Newcastle and a lot of changes against Villa. We've only 1 international so the rest get to rest again. |
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Post by upthetown on Feb 25, 2017 0:45:16 GMT 1
Shelvey isn't fit to lace the wizard of oz's boots We'll see, I've watched games where Shelvey hasn't missed a pass all game and he's done that for game after game. Nearly every player will have a bad spell, the good thing about Shelvey is that he never hides when it's not going well and he'll play his way out of it. Against Villa his passing was off for most of the first half, that changed after the break when the whole team picked their games up. Sometimes his passes going off are not his fault because normally the person he's hitting it to isn't on their game and would normally have got on the end of it. Meh, I'd rather have Mooy. Shelvey is clearly a bit of a knob too, like Barton-lite. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2017 0:48:57 GMT 1
It was so much easier when we as seasoned town fans knew the inevitable disappointment was just around the corner. Tempering expectation seems to have flown out of the window for a good number of fans. Newcastle and Brighton to date are clearly the most successful teams - the table doesn't lie. They are favourites for automatic for a good reason. Do I believe town have a chance to break into and stay in the top 2 - on current form definitely. Do I think they will - It's hard to say because I believe Newcastle particularly have been effective rather than spectacular recently and if the squad they have"clicks" they could potentially beat every team they play. Brighton have been excellent for 2 seasons and my main hope is that the jitters from their fans transfers to the team on the run in. Remember some preseason threads on top half/bottom half finishes, top 10 etc.
Everyone hopes to avoid the playoffs but they provide a level of interest like nothing else - imagine having little old town involved in the £200 million pound game.
May the best 2 teams succeed
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Post by itsmemick on Feb 25, 2017 1:05:13 GMT 1
Making 7 or 8 changes and doing well or not will have more to do with how well the incoming players work together rather than how good they are. Change any 2 or 3 of the 8 and they'll probably do OK, change all 8 and the understanding goes out of the window. Our 8 changes was the entire back 5 and one player played only his second senior game, the previous being in 2013. We had 2 kids playing who had played 1 game each in the previous round and another returning after almost a year out. The headline of 8 changes doesn't tell the full story and was at a time when we had 3 important players away in Africa on international duty. We also had injuries to experienced players and any team would have struggle at that time because we we're not only into our 2nd 11, we were into kids who would never have been considered. Back to the game, Gayle is only likely to miss the game tomorrow as he's not badly injured, it looks like it's a lack of confidence because he's had a few hamstring injuries in the past while at Palace. We've made 8 or so changes changes and the understanding hasn't gone out of the window. Burton away - won 1-0 Wigan away - won 1-0 Port Vale at home - won 4-0 Rochdale away - won 4-0 Man City at home - drew 0-0 Our complete back 5 change hasn't conceded a goal. This is why Town fans are confident of dealing with what's coming. We'll be full strength for the games that matter so Barnsley on Saturday, reserves again vs City, full strength vs Newcastle and a lot of changes against Villa. We've only 1 international so the rest get to rest again. I don't think you have anything to worry about Barnsley, we played them at Oakwell and they tried but didn't worry us, Rotherham away was tougher. As for changes, we made 4 changes when we went away to QPR and won 6-0. We made 7 changes and beat Preston at home 6-0, for the next game we made 5 changes and won 2-1. All I'm saying it that a poor performance after a number of changes is not always down to quality. |
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Post by itsmemick on Feb 25, 2017 1:13:13 GMT 1
We'll see, I've watched games where Shelvey hasn't missed a pass all game and he's done that for game after game. Nearly every player will have a bad spell, the good thing about Shelvey is that he never hides when it's not going well and he'll play his way out of it. Against Villa his passing was off for most of the first half, that changed after the break when the whole team picked their games up. Sometimes his passes going off are not his fault because normally the person he's hitting it to isn't on their game and would normally have got on the end of it. Meh, I'd rather have Mooy. Shelvey is clearly a bit of a knob too, like Barton-lite. Shelvey can be a bit of a knob as he does get frustrated at times, usually when he's being kicked to bits, having seen both players they're nothing like each other. I've seen shelvey kick out at one player this season and he was wrong to do it, this season he's been kicked to bits at times and given no protection by the officials. He was banned for what he was supposed to have said against Wolves, I'm very sceptical that anything happened. No Wolves player said anything during the supposed incident and I know I would have reacted there and then if he really has said what they alleged and I was a Wolves player. |
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Post by itsmemick on Feb 25, 2017 1:21:06 GMT 1
It was so much easier when we as seasoned town fans knew the inevitable disappointment was just around the corner. Tempering expectation seems to have flown out of the window for a good number of fans. Newcastle and Brighton to date are clearly the most successful teams - the table doesn't lie. They are favourites for automatic for a good reason. Do I believe town have a chance to break into and stay in the top 2 - on current form definitely. Do I think they will - It's hard to say because I believe Newcastle particularly have been effective rather than spectacular recently and if the squad they have"clicks" they could potentially beat every team they play. Brighton have been excellent for 2 seasons and my main hope is that the jitters from their fans transfers to the team on the run in. Remember some preseason threads on top half/bottom half finishes, top 10 etc. Everyone hopes to avoid the playoffs but they provide a level of interest like nothing else - imagine having little old town involved in the £200 million pound game. May the best 2 teams succeed As long as town are one of them I think you have a great chance of going up, I'm not sure about top 2 but I wouldn't bet against it. I expect your good run will end at some point, they always do and it will then depend on how you react. This isn't me being patronising, you've had a fantastic and deserved season so enjoy it, they don't come along often unless you have stupid money. I think the 3 teams who go up this season have a massive disadvantage because of the stupid money that premiership clubs can spend. They'll have that money from this season, those going up will not get the money until it's too late, I'm sure prize money is paid at the end of the season. We keep getting our spending thrown at us, we actually made a £30 million profit on transfers after relegation. We sold high and bought relatively low in most cases to pad the squad out. |
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Post by bristolterrier on Feb 25, 2017 1:33:14 GMT 1
It was so much easier when we as seasoned town fans knew the inevitable disappointment was just around the corner. Tempering expectation seems to have flown out of the window for a good number of fans. Newcastle and Brighton to date are clearly the most successful teams - the table doesn't lie. They are favourites for automatic for a good reason. Do I believe town have a chance to break into and stay in the top 2 - on current form definitely. Do I think they will - It's hard to say because I believe Newcastle particularly have been effective rather than spectacular recently and if the squad they have"clicks" they could potentially beat every team they play. Brighton have been excellent for 2 seasons and my main hope is that the jitters from their fans transfers to the team on the run in. Remember some preseason threads on top half/bottom half finishes, top 10 etc. Everyone hopes to avoid the playoffs but they provide a level of interest like nothing else - imagine having little old town involved in the £200 million pound game. May the best 2 teams succeed As long as town are one of them I think you have a great chance of going up, I'm not sure about top 2 but I wouldn't bet against it. I expect your good run will end at some point, they always do and it will then depend on how you react. This isn't me being patronising, you've had a fantastic and deserved season so enjoy it, they don't come along often unless you have stupid money. I think the 3 teams who go up this season have a massive disadvantage because of the stupid money that premiership clubs can spend. They'll have that money from this season, those going up will not get the money until it's too late, I'm sure prize money is paid at the end of the season. We keep getting our spending thrown at us, we actually made a £30 million profit on transfers after relegation. We sold high and bought relatively low in most cases to pad the squad out. Now you are starting to talk bollocks. You may have made a £30m profit but the players you have bought are all worth millions more than those at HTFC. Gayle on his own cost 3 times more than all our squad. You sell £80m worth of players and buy £50m pounds worth still equates to you spending more than ten times what we have spent and you are only 5 points above us. We are going to catch you. |
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Post by itsmemick on Feb 25, 2017 1:39:04 GMT 1
I think you have a great chance of going up, I'm not sure about top 2 but I wouldn't bet against it. I expect your good run will end at some point, they always do and it will then depend on how you react. This isn't me being patronising, you've had a fantastic and deserved season so enjoy it, they don't come along often unless you have stupid money. I think the 3 teams who go up this season have a massive disadvantage because of the stupid money that premiership clubs can spend. They'll have that money from this season, those going up will not get the money until it's too late, I'm sure prize money is paid at the end of the season. We keep getting our spending thrown at us, we actually made a £30 million profit on transfers after relegation. We sold high and bought relatively low in most cases to pad the squad out. Now you are starting to talk bollocks. You may have made a £30m profit but the players you have bought are all worth millions more than those at HTFC. Gayle on his own cost 3 times more than all our squad. You sell £80m worth of players and buy £50m pounds worth still equates to you spending more than ten times what we have spent and you are only 5 points above us. We are going to catch you. I'm not talking bollocks and you've proven it, thanks for that. |
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Post by Henry Mcgee on Feb 25, 2017 9:34:52 GMT 1
I think you have a great chance of going up, I'm not sure about top 2 but I wouldn't bet against it. I expect your good run will end at some point, they always do and it will then depend on how you react. This isn't me being patronising, you've had a fantastic and deserved season so enjoy it, they don't come along often unless you have stupid money. I think the 3 teams who go up this season have a massive disadvantage because of the stupid money that premiership clubs can spend. They'll have that money from this season, those going up will not get the money until it's too late, I'm sure prize money is paid at the end of the season. We keep getting our spending thrown at us, we actually made a £30 million profit on transfers after relegation. We sold high and bought relatively low in most cases to pad the squad out. Rightly so. The fact you made £30m profit from £80m sales & £50m buys puts you on another stratosphere to most of the division. Basically, you offloaded players who were unsuited or unwilling to play in the championship and that gave you the ability to replace them with ones that most of the division could never dream of buying. You say you bought relatively low, that just emphasises the gulf, your 'relatively low' would be our 'mind-boggling high' and lets also throw in your wage bill which will dwarf most teams. I've always liked Newcastle and really admire your tavelling fans - but lets not pretend you're not relatively awash with with cash in this division and that you don't have grossly highly paid and valued players compared to most - something that I really believe will seriously count against you when the pressure really ramps up in the next few weeks. Big money + big egos + big expectations = big finger-pointing and big fallouts when the shit starts hitting the fan. Bring it on. |
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Post by itsmemick on Feb 25, 2017 12:25:19 GMT 1
I think you have a great chance of going up, I'm not sure about top 2 but I wouldn't bet against it. I expect your good run will end at some point, they always do and it will then depend on how you react. This isn't me being patronising, you've had a fantastic and deserved season so enjoy it, they don't come along often unless you have stupid money. I think the 3 teams who go up this season have a massive disadvantage because of the stupid money that premiership clubs can spend. They'll have that money from this season, those going up will not get the money until it's too late, I'm sure prize money is paid at the end of the season. We keep getting our spending thrown at us, we actually made a £30 million profit on transfers after relegation. We sold high and bought relatively low in most cases to pad the squad out. Rightly so. The fact you made £30m profit from £80m sales & £50m buys puts you on another stratosphere to most of the division. Basically, you offloaded players who were unsuited or unwilling to play in the championship and that gave you the ability to replace them with ones that most of the division could never dream of buying. You say you bought relatively low, that just emphasises the gulf, your 'relatively low' would be our 'mind-boggling high' and lets also throw in your wage bill which will dwarf most teams. I've always liked Newcastle and really admire your tavelling fans - but lets not pretend you're not relatively awash with with cash in this division and that you don't have grossly highly paid and valued players compared to most - something that I really believe will seriously count against you when the pressure really ramps up in the next few weeks. Big money + big egos + big expectations = big finger-pointing and big fallouts when the shit starts hitting the fan. Bring it on. Since Mike Ashley has been at the club (10 years in May) we've spent £23 million more on players than we've brought in. £22.9 million of that was before he had control and the club was run by Freddy Shepherd so while Ashley has run the club we've spent £100k, divide that by 10 seasons and we've spent £10k per season more than we've brought in. Our wages will be massive, the last time we were down ours were £40 million for the year and the next highest was £4 million. I don't think we'll be that far ahead this time as Villa have spent more than we have on players and will possibly have a higher wage bill as we don't pay massive wages these days when compared to the Premiership. Incidentally, Villa have spent more and look at how they're doing, money spent doesn't bring success on its own. I'm not sure about the ego's of our players, we regularly mix the team up and make changes and the players all seem to have bought into what the manager is trying to do and within the last few days the players have been praising Rafa for his management of them. The big wages shouldn't come into it, why would they? I haven't seen any finger pointing so far and the Norwich away game would have been a perfect example of where it could have happened. We let in two terrible goals and nobody pointed any fingers, the opposite happened and the players who made mistakes were reminded by the manager and other players how they'd saved us points before. Obviously our target for this season is promotion from any position and that is all that matters. If we fail to do that then things might go a bit dodgy but it will not be until we've failed, if we do. Our current team and manager are not showing any ego's and we haven't seen any all season. Rafa has the players all pulling in the same direction and I don't think he'll allow that to change. I can't comment on what will happen regarding expectations, Huddersfield fans on here seem to have as high expectations as I see Newcastle fans having. |
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Post by realmadkid on Feb 25, 2017 12:27:30 GMT 1
Rightly so. The fact you made £30m profit from £80m sales & £50m buys puts you on another stratosphere to most of the division. Basically, you offloaded players who were unsuited or unwilling to play in the championship and that gave you the ability to replace them with ones that most of the division could never dream of buying. You say you bought relatively low, that just emphasises the gulf, your 'relatively low' would be our 'mind-boggling high' and lets also throw in your wage bill which will dwarf most teams. I've always liked Newcastle and really admire your tavelling fans - but lets not pretend you're not relatively awash with with cash in this division and that you don't have grossly highly paid and valued players compared to most - something that I really believe will seriously count against you when the pressure really ramps up in the next few weeks. Big money + big egos + big expectations = big finger-pointing and big fallouts when the shit starts hitting the fan. Bring it on. Since Mike Ashley has been at the club (10 years in May) we've spent £23 million more on players than we've brought in. £22.9 million of that was before he had control and the club was run by Freddy Shepherd so while Ashley has run the club we've spent £100k, divide that by 10 seasons and we've spent £10k per season more than we've brought in. Our wages will be massive, the last time we were down ours were £40 million for the year and the next highest was £4 million. I don't think we'll be that far ahead this time as Villa have spent more than we have on players and will possibly have a higher wage bill as we don't pay massive wages these days when compared to the Premiership. Incidentally, Villa have spent more and look at how they're doing, money spent doesn't bring success on its own. I'm not sure about the ego's of our players, we regularly mix the team up and make changes and the players all seem to have bought into what the manager is trying to do and within the last few days the players have been praising Rafa for his management of them. The big wages shouldn't come into it, why would they? I haven't seen any finger pointing so far and the Norwich away game would have been a perfect example of where it could have happened. We let in two terrible goals and nobody pointed any fingers, the opposite happened and the players who made mistakes were reminded by the manager and other players how they'd saved us points before. Obviously our target for this season is promotion from any position and that is all that matters. If we fail to do that then things might go a bit dodgy but it will not be until we've failed, if we do. Our current team and manager are not showing any ego's and we haven't seen any all season. Rafa has the players all pulling in the same direction and I don't think he'll allow that to change. I can't comment on what will happen regarding expectations, Huddersfield fans on here seem to have as high expectations as I see Newcastle fans having. Think you are confusing 'expectations' with 'hopes' regarding Town fans, my friend. |
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Post by upthetown on Feb 25, 2017 12:44:45 GMT 1
Since Mike Ashley has been at the club (10 years in May) we've spent £23 million more on players than we've brought in. £22.9 million of that was before he had control and the club was run by Freddy Shepherd so while Ashley has run the club we've spent £100k, divide that by 10 seasons and we've spent £10k per season more than we've brought in. Our wages will be massive, the last time we were down ours were £40 million for the year and the next highest was £4 million. I don't think we'll be that far ahead this time as Villa have spent more than we have on players and will possibly have a higher wage bill as we don't pay massive wages these days when compared to the Premiership. Incidentally, Villa have spent more and look at how they're doing, money spent doesn't bring success on its own. I'm not sure about the ego's of our players, we regularly mix the team up and make changes and the players all seem to have bought into what the manager is trying to do and within the last few days the players have been praising Rafa for his management of them. The big wages shouldn't come into it, why would they? I haven't seen any finger pointing so far and the Norwich away game would have been a perfect example of where it could have happened. We let in two terrible goals and nobody pointed any fingers, the opposite happened and the players who made mistakes were reminded by the manager and other players how they'd saved us points before. Obviously our target for this season is promotion from any position and that is all that matters. If we fail to do that then things might go a bit dodgy but it will not be until we've failed, if we do. Our current team and manager are not showing any ego's and we haven't seen any all season. Rafa has the players all pulling in the same direction and I don't think he'll allow that to change. I can't comment on what will happen regarding expectations, Huddersfield fans on here seem to have as high expectations as I see Newcastle fans having. Think you are confusing 'expectations' with 'hopes' regarding Town fans, my friend. And deluded as hell if he thinks they've spent £100k in 10 years 😂 Yes, you sold players for big money, but you still bloody spent a fortune. And don't start on the net spend nonsense that funnily enough Rafa used to go on about at Liverpool. You and Villa have spent obscene amounts of money in the Championship. You've both spent more than many teams in the Champions League, in other countries. You've spent more than Leicester did in winning the title. It's embarrassing needing to spend that much money, especially at this level, regardless of how much money you got for Sissoko, one player. You spent more on Ritchie or Gayle than we've spent on our entire squad over a number of years. If we'd spunked that much I'd be expecting us to walk the league by 20 points. |
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Post by brighousebandbred on Feb 25, 2017 13:06:09 GMT 1
Money generally rules in football. Newcastle United with their parachute payments and huge fan base should walk this league, Rafa taking Newcastle up is no great achievement. If he does he should be judged on what happens next. Huddersfield town shouldn't be close to competing against them, but we are not that far off which is a huge achievement to the club/ management / players and fans. This club is on one big roll, I've supported this club for a bloody long time and you get a feeling in your bones sometimes that your onto a good thing. We are onto a good thing, achieve promotion or not I'm enjoying the ride. Newcastle beware!!!!!
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Post by itsmemick on Feb 25, 2017 13:29:12 GMT 1
Since Mike Ashley has been at the club (10 years in May) we've spent £23 million more on players than we've brought in. £22.9 million of that was before he had control and the club was run by Freddy Shepherd so while Ashley has run the club we've spent £100k, divide that by 10 seasons and we've spent £10k per season more than we've brought in. Our wages will be massive, the last time we were down ours were £40 million for the year and the next highest was £4 million. I don't think we'll be that far ahead this time as Villa have spent more than we have on players and will possibly have a higher wage bill as we don't pay massive wages these days when compared to the Premiership. Incidentally, Villa have spent more and look at how they're doing, money spent doesn't bring success on its own. I'm not sure about the ego's of our players, we regularly mix the team up and make changes and the players all seem to have bought into what the manager is trying to do and within the last few days the players have been praising Rafa for his management of them. The big wages shouldn't come into it, why would they? I haven't seen any finger pointing so far and the Norwich away game would have been a perfect example of where it could have happened. We let in two terrible goals and nobody pointed any fingers, the opposite happened and the players who made mistakes were reminded by the manager and other players how they'd saved us points before. Obviously our target for this season is promotion from any position and that is all that matters. If we fail to do that then things might go a bit dodgy but it will not be until we've failed, if we do. Our current team and manager are not showing any ego's and we haven't seen any all season. Rafa has the players all pulling in the same direction and I don't think he'll allow that to change. I can't comment on what will happen regarding expectations, Huddersfield fans on here seem to have as high expectations as I see Newcastle fans having. Think you are confusing 'expectations' with 'hopes' regarding Town fans, my friend. It's the same for fans of all clubs and I expect Newcastle to under-perform while I hope they will do well. I expect that if something can go wrong, it will go wrong. |
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Post by itsmemick on Feb 25, 2017 13:37:05 GMT 1
Think you are confusing 'expectations' with 'hopes' regarding Town fans, my friend. And deluded as hell if he thinks they've spent £100k in 10 years 😂 Yes, you sold players for big money, but you still bloody spent a fortune. And don't start on the net spend nonsense that funnily enough Rafa used to go on about at Liverpool. You and Villa have spent obscene amounts of money in the Championship. You've both spent more than many teams in the Champions League, in other countries. You've spent more than Leicester did in winning the title. It's embarrassing needing to spend that much money, especially at this level, regardless of how much money you got for Sissoko, one player. You spent more on Ritchie or Gayle than we've spent on our entire squad over a number of years. If we'd spunked that much I'd be expecting us to walk the league by 20 points. I've told you what we've spent, it's up to you whether you chose to believe it or not but you'll see it's true if you bother to do some research which you probably should if you're going to start throwing insults about regarding something you clearly have no clue about. We've made a £30 million profit this season and over 10 years we've had a net spend of £100k per season, it's your choice if you don't like net spend. The amount of money we've spent isn't embarrassing at all and I find that comment strange as we spend within our means. |
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Post by itsmemick on Feb 25, 2017 13:44:03 GMT 1
Money generally rules in football. Newcastle United with their parachute payments and huge fan base should walk this league, Rafa taking Newcastle up is no great achievement. If he does he should be judged on what happens next. Huddersfield town shouldn't be close to competing against them, but we are not that far off which is a huge achievement to the club/ management / players and fans. This club is on one big roll, I've supported this club for a bloody long time and you get a feeling in your bones sometimes that your onto a good thing. We are onto a good thing, achieve promotion or not I'm enjoying the ride. Newcastle beware!!!!! The parachute payments will come at the end of the season so has no impact on what we spend now, the transfer profit will be paying bills that we couldn't have paid without the sky money and we will have received our money for last season at the end of that one. Villa proves your theory doesn't always work, spending guarantees nothing, it's not what you spend but how you spend it. We've bought relatively cheap and sold the players for stupid fees which has allowed us to bring more players in. We wouldn't have spent anywhere near what we have if the money wasn't coming in from selling players. You should enjoy the ride, I'm enjoying ours. I'd rather win in the Championship than lose in the Premiership. |
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Post by sapphireblue on Feb 25, 2017 13:55:44 GMT 1
And deluded as hell if he thinks they've spent £100k in 10 years 😂 Yes, you sold players for big money, but you still bloody spent a fortune. And don't start on the net spend nonsense that funnily enough Rafa used to go on about at Liverpool. You and Villa have spent obscene amounts of money in the Championship. You've both spent more than many teams in the Champions League, in other countries. You've spent more than Leicester did in winning the title. It's embarrassing needing to spend that much money, especially at this level, regardless of how much money you got for Sissoko, one player. You spent more on Ritchie or Gayle than we've spent on our entire squad over a number of years. If we'd spunked that much I'd be expecting us to walk the league by 20 points. I've told you what we've spent, it's up to you whether you chose to believe it or not but you'll see it's true if you bother to do some research which you probably should if you're going to start throwing insults about regarding something you clearly have no clue about. We've made a £30 million profit this season and over 10 years we've had a net spend of £100k per season, it's your choice if you don't like net spend. The amount of money we've spent isn't embarrassing at all and I find that comment strange as we spend within our means. So you underspent for nine years then, just so you could win more games in the Championship. I like it when a plan comes together. |
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Post by itsmemick on Feb 25, 2017 14:17:40 GMT 1
I've told you what we've spent, it's up to you whether you chose to believe it or not but you'll see it's true if you bother to do some research which you probably should if you're going to start throwing insults about regarding something you clearly have no clue about. We've made a £30 million profit this season and over 10 years we've had a net spend of £100k per season, it's your choice if you don't like net spend. The amount of money we've spent isn't embarrassing at all and I find that comment strange as we spend within our means. So you underspent for nine years then, just so you could win more games in the Championship. I like it when a plan comes together. Strange comment, we spent what we did because we have an owner who wants the club to spend within its means. The more we've brought in from transfers, the more we've spent. Our main problem has been that we've brought in managers who were useless. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2017 14:38:58 GMT 1
Shelvey isn't fit to lace the wizard of oz's boots We'll see, I've watched games where Shelvey hasn't missed a pass all game and he's done that for game after game. Nearly every player will have a bad spell, the good thing about Shelvey is that he never hides when it's not going well and he'll play his way out of it. Against Villa his passing was off for most of the first half, that changed after the break when the whole team picked their games up. Sometimes his passes going off are not his fault because normally the person he's hitting it to isn't on their game and would normally have got on the end of it.fantastic quote - when a player boots the ball off target its other players fault for not being there - marvellous oh this is the bloke who "has a wand of a right foot" .....oh well why doesnt he magic a player into place to receive it then?  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2017 14:43:04 GMT 1
Now you are starting to talk bollocks. You may have made a £30m profit but the players you have bought are all worth millions more than those at HTFC. Gayle on his own cost 3 times more than all our squad. You sell £80m worth of players and buy £50m pounds worth still equates to you spending more than ten times what we have spent and you are only 5 points above us. We are going to catch you. I'm not talking bollocks and you've proven it, thanks for that. Sorry mate, but you are. £50m spending is £50m spending. What is proven is that money doesn't guarantee success. A player that costs 20 times more than another in this division certainly isn't 20 times better. That is quite a premium to have to accommodate. They may be marginally better when judged by their CV, but were your players a little too easily come by because you could pay what the selling club and their agent demanded? Maybe Rafa thought that paying more for a player meant you could avoid the requirement to do proper due diligence on them. I'm pretty sure we have to work a lot harder (not just pay more) for our signings than you do. On paper, we should not be anywhere even remotely close to where we are and you should be 20 points clear. Having spent what you've spent, I'd be far more worried about failure at the end of the season if I were you. It would be something of an embarrassment. We aren't afraid - we're just enjoying it, and I'm sure the team are as well. |
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Post by brighousebandbred on Feb 25, 2017 15:41:12 GMT 1
You've come on our forum, and to be fair your a friendly enough bloke but your kidding no one on here with the Newcastle haven't spent much bla bla bla. Your saying you haven't received parachute payments this year, I don't know if that's the case but if so you will have received the payments from last years premiership finish all pretty much the same. Your clubs turnover will be 20 fold ours just accept it anything but pissing this league is a joke. You keep comparing to villa, sorry but their a joke.
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