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Post by bournemouthfan on Nov 20, 2017 19:01:47 GMT 1
Can i ask why you guys think it was 11v11 in the second half when Probert ignored a clear yellow card foul by one of you players and a probably red when Wilson was hauled down from behind on the edge of your box when about to shoot? By all means feel hard done by over the 2nd goal but he had your backs the whole of the second half. Nothing he did helped us score our 2 goals. This really isn’t hard. His poor decisions against you didn’t alter the course of the game. The shocking non decision when Hadergjonaj was taken out and the offside goal gave you the points (you may have got them anyway, but it is hard to argue that Probert and assistant completely halted our momentum) Just so I understand, you believe that because the linesman didnt see an offside for one of our goals that the Referee who sent off one of our players and ignored a red for one of your players meant that you were unfairly beaten 4-0 by 10 men and he was on our side? Makes sense. Lets call it 3-0 then and call it quits shall we.
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Post by kennyk2 on Nov 20, 2017 19:08:02 GMT 1
Is this blatant cheating or against the spirit of the game?
One way to solve it. Next time we have a free kick in a similar position, put 3 or 4 men in front of the goalkeeper and restrict his vision, and/or his movement. The referee then has a choice to allow it or prevent it. Big debate ensues on MotD and Talksport are outraged. The suits will then instruct referees to penalise this in future because it goes against the spirit of the game. Result no team will do it again.
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Post by gledholt terrier on Nov 20, 2017 19:17:49 GMT 1
This really isn’t hard. His poor decisions against you didn’t alter the course of the game. The shocking non decision when Hadergjonaj was taken out and the offside goal gave you the points (you may have got them anyway, but it is hard to argue that Probert and assistant completely halted our momentum) Just so I understand, you believe that because the linesman didnt see an offside for one of our goals that the Referee who sent off one of our players and ignored a red for one of your players meant that you were unfairly beaten 4-0 by 10 men and he was on our side? Makes sense. Lets call it 3-0 then and call it quits shall we. No, you clearly don’t understand. After a straightforward 25 minutes the officials made 2 game changing decisions which entirely altered the game in your favour and handed you 2 goals (while halting our momentum after we had been the better team by some distance) The corner would not have happened had he given the free kick, our right hand side wouldn’t have been left wide open for the corner to occur and we would t have been a man short at the corner which would never have happened. The offside speaks for itself. You may or may not have won anyway - We don’t have the excellent Wilson and our away scoring record is abysmal. However, the referee/assistants handed you a two goal lead which was entirely undeserved at that point of the game. He obviously didn’t spot the 2nd yellow either as he inexplicably played on before someone with eyes alerted him. We should’ve done much better against ten but you defended well and capitalized on our naivety but again, the game has already been flipped in your favour.
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Post by bournemouthfan on Nov 20, 2017 19:51:14 GMT 1
Just so I understand, you believe that because the linesman didnt see an offside for one of our goals that the Referee who sent off one of our players and ignored a red for one of your players meant that you were unfairly beaten 4-0 by 10 men and he was on our side? Makes sense. Lets call it 3-0 then and call it quits shall we. No, you clearly don’t understand. After a straightforward 25 minutes the officials made 2 game changing decisions which entirely altered the game in your favour and handed you 2 goals (while halting our momentum after we had been the better team by some distance) The corner would not have happened had he given the free kick, our right hand side wouldn’t have been left wide open for the corner to occur and we would t have been a man short at the corner which would never have happened. The offside speaks for itself. You may or may not have won anyway - We don’t have the excellent Wilson and our away scoring record is abysmal. However, the referee/assistants handed you a two goal lead which was entirely undeserved at that point of the game. He obviously didn’t spot the 2nd yellow either as he inexplicably played on before someone with eyes alerted him. We should’ve done much better against ten but you defended well and capitalized on our naivety but again, the game has already been flipped in your favour. You conceded from a corner. Thats your fault not the referee. Many people didnt think it was a foul on TV so how you think that a contentious free kick wasn't given which eventually led to us scoring was a referee being in our favour? He didnt do anything when Wilson was hauled down when 1 on 1 with the keeper. You should be thankful it wasnt 5-0. Francis first yellow wasnt! Ifs an buts, you lost 4-0 to 10 men. If you want to think you would have won but for the referee then I am sure you'll bounce back next week.
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Post by impact on Nov 20, 2017 19:59:16 GMT 1
No, you clearly don’t understand. After a straightforward 25 minutes the officials made 2 game changing decisions which entirely altered the game in your favour and handed you 2 goals (while halting our momentum after we had been the better team by some distance) The corner would not have happened had he given the free kick, our right hand side wouldn’t have been left wide open for the corner to occur and we would t have been a man short at the corner which would never have happened. The offside speaks for itself. You may or may not have won anyway - We don’t have the excellent Wilson and our away scoring record is abysmal. However, the referee/assistants handed you a two goal lead which was entirely undeserved at that point of the game. He obviously didn’t spot the 2nd yellow either as he inexplicably played on before someone with eyes alerted him. We should’ve done much better against ten but you defended well and capitalized on our naivety but again, the game has already been flipped in your favour. You conceded from a corner. Thats your fault not the referee. Many people didnt think it was a foul on TV so how you think that a contentious free kick wasn't given which eventually led to us scoring was a referee being in our favour? He didnt do anything when Wilson was hauled down when 1 on 1 with the keeper. You should be thankful it wasnt 5-0. Francis first yellow wasnt! Ifs an buts, you lost 4-0 to 10 men. If you want to think you would have won but for the referee then I am sure you'll bounce back next week. If you are a Bournemouth fan you are fitting the sterotype that they know absolutely nothing about football. Calling the foul on Flo "contentious" proves this. Now go and carry on with your celebratory drinks with Lee Probert.
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Post by royrace on Nov 20, 2017 20:20:03 GMT 1
Is this blatant cheating or against the spirit of the game? One way to solve it. Next time we have a free kick in a similar position, put 3 or 4 men in front of the goalkeeper and restrict his vision, and/or his movement. The referee then has a choice to allow it or prevent it. Big debate ensues on MotD and Talksport are outraged. The suits will then instruct referees to penalise this in future because it goes against the spirit of the game. Result no team will do it again. It's both cheating and against the spirit of the game and needs nipping in the bud before things get very silly. Sent from my SM-G920F using proboards
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Post by hypotenuse on Nov 20, 2017 20:23:48 GMT 1
Bournemouthfan your argument is irrelevant. If you don’t understand that the first goal in a game is the most significant goal in a game, then it is pointless having this debate.
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Post by ilsonterrier on Nov 20, 2017 20:25:40 GMT 1
No, you clearly don’t understand. After a straightforward 25 minutes the officials made 2 game changing decisions which entirely altered the game in your favour and handed you 2 goals (while halting our momentum after we had been the better team by some distance) The corner would not have happened had he given the free kick, our right hand side wouldn’t have been left wide open for the corner to occur and we would t have been a man short at the corner which would never have happened. The offside speaks for itself. You may or may not have won anyway - We don’t have the excellent Wilson and our away scoring record is abysmal. However, the referee/assistants handed you a two goal lead which was entirely undeserved at that point of the game. He obviously didn’t spot the 2nd yellow either as he inexplicably played on before someone with eyes alerted him. We should’ve done much better against ten but you defended well and capitalized on our naivety but again, the game has already been flipped in your favour. You conceded from a corner. Thats your fault not the referee. Many people didnt think it was a foul on TV so how you think that a contentious free kick wasn't given which eventually led to us scoring was a referee being in our favour? He didnt do anything when Wilson was hauled down when 1 on 1 with the keeper. You should be thankful it wasnt 5-0. Francis first yellow wasnt! Ifs an buts, you lost 4-0 to 10 men. If you want to think you would have won but for the referee then I am sure you'll bounce back next week. I don't want to get drawn into a slanging match - and this is in danger of becoming exactly that - but the point I have highlighted is wrong. I haven't heard anyone anywhere who doesn't think it wasn't a foul. Others of your fans on here have also have agreed that it was a foul. The only thing that is in dispute is what the punishment should have been - yellow, red or nothing. Discussions on MOTD, reports on Radio 5 Live (I won't listen to Talks***e so I can't offer an opinion on them), everyone agreed it was a foul.
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Post by upthetown on Nov 20, 2017 21:03:34 GMT 1
You conceded from a corner. Thats your fault not the referee. Many people didnt think it was a foul on TV so how you think that a contentious free kick wasn't given which eventually led to us scoring was a referee being in our favour? He didnt do anything when Wilson was hauled down when 1 on 1 with the keeper. You should be thankful it wasnt 5-0. Francis first yellow wasnt! Ifs an buts, you lost 4-0 to 10 men. If you want to think you would have won but for the referee then I am sure you'll bounce back next week. I don't want to get drawn into a slanging match - and this is in danger of becoming exactly that - but the point I have highlighted is wrong. I haven't heard anyone anywhere who doesn't think it wasn't a foul. Others of your fans on here have also have agreed that it was a foul. The only thing that is in dispute is what the punishment should have been - yellow, red or nothing. Discussions on MOTD, reports on Radio 5 Live (I won't listen to Talks***e so I can't offer an opinion on them), everyone agreed it was a foul. Lee Probert and Roger East watched it together, on MOTD, both agreed not a foul. And if anything Flo should have been booked for simulation.
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Post by bournemouthfan on Nov 20, 2017 21:44:06 GMT 1
I don't want to get drawn into a slanging match - and this is in danger of becoming exactly that - but the point I have highlighted is wrong. I haven't heard anyone anywhere who doesn't think it wasn't a foul. Others of your fans on here have also have agreed that it was a foul. The only thing that is in dispute is what the punishment should have been - yellow, red or nothing. Discussions on MOTD, reports on Radio 5 Live (I won't listen to Talks***e so I can't offer an opinion on them), everyone agreed it was a foul. Lee Probert and Roger East watched it together, on MOTD, both agreed not a foul. And if anything Flo should have been booked for simulation. Goals on Sunday on sky? They said it wasnt.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2017 21:45:46 GMT 1
I don't want to get drawn into a slanging match - and this is in danger of becoming exactly that - but the point I have highlighted is wrong. I haven't heard anyone anywhere who doesn't think it wasn't a foul. Others of your fans on here have also have agreed that it was a foul. The only thing that is in dispute is what the punishment should have been - yellow, red or nothing. Discussions on MOTD, reports on Radio 5 Live (I won't listen to Talks***e so I can't offer an opinion on them), everyone agreed it was a foul. Lee Probert and Roger East watched it together, on MOTD, both agreed not a foul. And if anything Flo should have been booked for simulation. No surprise there then.
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Post by lancyclaret on Nov 21, 2017 20:00:20 GMT 1
As a Burnley fan, I have sympathy for the Terriers - Bournemouth reflect their snidey and smug manager who somehow gets more than his fair share of help from referees.
The Cherries "bought" their way to promotion with a wage bill TWO and A HALF times their income (£30 million wages/£12 million income) and how many penalties did they get that season? Was it 14? Maybe 15......I lost count but their team of "divers" regularly conned the ref.
I hope Town put 5 past "Smug Eddie" in the return match.
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Post by El Presidente on Nov 22, 2017 10:02:03 GMT 1
Lee Probert and Roger East watched it together, on MOTD, both agreed not a foul. And if anything Flo should have been booked for simulation. Goals on Sunday on sky? They said it wasnt. What the dinosaur that is Peter Reid!! FFS!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2017 10:17:42 GMT 1
Even Adrian "I hate Huddersfield" Durham said it was a foul and a shocking challenge.
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Post by WaterlooTerrier on Nov 22, 2017 15:33:14 GMT 1
Even Adrian "I hate Huddersfield" Durham said it was a foul and a shocking challenge. You know it's a bad tackle when even that plonker is backing Town!
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