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Post by Hammy (still in Golcar) on Aug 25, 2018 20:41:14 GMT 1
I will put my left bollock on the line here. Diakhaby and Mbenza will both be class for us. Hope you have a right one Just in case like I need neither no more, |
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Post by teddytheterrier on Aug 25, 2018 20:41:43 GMT 1
These two lads aren't fit to lace Scanz' boots.
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Post by Porrohman on Aug 25, 2018 20:52:28 GMT 1
Diakhaby left 2 players for dead but the ball had run out of play, we never gave him the opportunity to make a similar run afterwards Do you think his performance today was an upgrade on the “chuckles brothers”? Joe Bennett, a championship left back marked him out of the game. He didn’t make a single exciting contribution - I want him to do great but today it passed him by The one time he did get away he looked lost/ panicked and played an awful pass to no one He’ll get better I’m sure but I found nothing really noteworthy in that full debut Maybe not on Col 😉. But we didn't give him quick balls either, it looks painfully slow again whenever the ball gets to Mooy. There's no point having pace if your playmaker allows the opposition to drop back into defensive mode while he decides what to do with the ball. |
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Post by Porrohman on Aug 25, 2018 20:53:30 GMT 1
Flo is let down by whoevers played infront of him.... needs a kachunga type whos willing to work off the ball. Would kachunga help him avoid the first defender with a cross every time he crosses it and stop him passing to the opposition all the time? Doubt it, thats Kachs speciality 😉🎣😁 |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2018 20:56:35 GMT 1
What is wrong with people on here?
Our midfield could not put two passes together and never put a decent pass out wide or behind he defense and that is the wingers fault!
As for the lad that was only on the field for 10 minutes when we were already down to 10 minutes. Give the guy a chance.
What a numbskull of a thread this is
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Post by Siehe grün on Aug 25, 2018 20:56:58 GMT 1
We could actually try and give these two the ball in a forward motion to run on to and give them options in the box or other positions as an outlet.
Until we try this then I don’t think we can make any judgements whatsoever on either player. You might have well have Peter Crouch up front and play football on the floor and expect him to create chances for others and score 20+ himself a season. Never going to happen.
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Aug 25, 2018 20:59:18 GMT 1
Do you think his performance today was an upgrade on the “chuckles brothers”? Joe Bennett, a championship left back marked him out of the game. He didn’t make a single exciting contribution - I want him to do great but today it passed him by The one time he did get away he looked lost/ panicked and played an awful pass to no one He’ll get better I’m sure but I found nothing really noteworthy in that full debut Maybe not on Col 😉. But we didn't give him quick balls either, it looks painfully slow again whenever the ball gets to Mooy. There's no point having pace if your playmaker allows the opposition to drop back into defensive mode while he decides what to do with the ball. On reflection I actually don’t think this game suited either Diakhaby or Mbenza who I’m sure are decent players hence the fee Last week Leon Osman nailed it for me when he said Man City left all their pace on the bench because Town would sit deep with two banks and there’d be no space in behind Today until the red card I think Cardiff sat deep denying the space Diakhaby needed to use his pace Throw in a slow town passing game and he was going to struggle. Sobhi if fit would have been better suited today I reckon Mbenza and Diakhaby will ironically look a lot better when play teams who are more adventurous than Cardiff Hopefully they both go on to have fantastic seasons |
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Post by loumacari on Aug 25, 2018 21:09:12 GMT 1
Maybe not on Col 😉. But we didn't give him quick balls either, it looks painfully slow again whenever the ball gets to Mooy. There's no point having pace if your playmaker allows the opposition to drop back into defensive mode while he decides what to do with the ball. On reflection I actually don’t think this game suited either Diakhaby or Mbenza who I’m sure are decent players hence the fee Last week Leon Osman nailed it for me when he said Man City left all their pace on the bench because Town would sit deep with two banks and there’d be no space in behind Today until the red card I think Cardiff sat deep denying the space Diakhaby needed to use his pace Throw in a slow town passing game and he was going to struggle. Sobhi if fit would have been better suited today I reckon Mbenza and Diakhaby will ironically look a lot better when play teams who are more adventurous than Cardiff Hopefully they both go on to have fantastic seasons Some very good points above all of which point towards exactly why we should have selected Pritchard. |
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Post by Giggity on Aug 25, 2018 21:13:09 GMT 1
Mbenza came on with 22 mins to go. He was blowing after 5 mins and on his back after 22. Hard to judge his talent given the circumstances however his fitness was shocking.
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Post by mids on Aug 25, 2018 21:15:09 GMT 1
Van la parra is our best winger how can we get rid Is he chuff. He's a liability. Early days yet for the others...we've had to endure VLP long enough  |
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Post by Porrohman on Aug 25, 2018 21:19:54 GMT 1
Maybe not on Col 😉. But we didn't give him quick balls either, it looks painfully slow again whenever the ball gets to Mooy. There's no point having pace if your playmaker allows the opposition to drop back into defensive mode while he decides what to do with the ball. On reflection I actually don’t think this game suited either Diakhaby or Mbenza who I’m sure are decent players hence the fee Last week Leon Osman nailed it for me when he said Man City left all their pace on the bench because Town would sit deep with two banks and there’d be no space in behind Today until the red card I think Cardiff sat deep denying the space Diakhaby needed to use his pace Throw in a slow town passing game and he was going to struggle. Sobhi if fit would have been better suited today I reckon Mbenza and Diakhaby will ironically look a lot better when play teams who are more adventurous than Cardiff Hopefully they both go on to have fantastic seasons Also on reflection, absolutely spot on mate |
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Post by shatterrier on Aug 25, 2018 21:32:15 GMT 1
Was impressed with the pace of Mbenza, tremendous speed and tackle when tracking back. Diakaby showed some good touches but lets give him a chance given it was his full debut Agree thought Kongolo has improved massively when coming forward. Today I think both of these lads and VLP would have benefited from Pritchard playing That has to be the most accurate post I’ve ever read on here I agree but could you try a hysterical, negative version to suit many DATMers. |
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Post by COWleySHED on Aug 25, 2018 21:49:06 GMT 1
Summer window dealings have been horrific we don’t have one decent winger in the squad and still have Mounie & Laurent fighting it out for 1 spot as they sure as hell cant play together
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Post by upthetown on Aug 25, 2018 22:03:50 GMT 1
Diakhaby left 2 players for dead but the ball had run out of play, we never gave him the opportunity to make a similar run afterwards Even then though he picked it up next to our box when we should be feeding him in to space deep in their half. |
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Post by Headless Chicken on Aug 26, 2018 6:37:19 GMT 1
Flo is let down by whoevers played infront of him.... needs a kachunga type whos willing to work off the ball. That sounds like the problem is with Flo and funnily enough I noticed a few mix ups involving him yesterday, where he left a ball he could've got. Mounie, Billing and VLP definitely get judged differently to Hadj and a few others. |
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Post by C.H on Aug 26, 2018 7:59:03 GMT 1
Van la parra is our best winger how can we get rid Is he chuff. He's a liability. Early days yet for the others...we've had to endure VLP long enough Who is better than van la parra?? |
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Post by mids on Aug 26, 2018 9:24:06 GMT 1
Is he chuff. He's a liability. Early days yet for the others...we've had to endure VLP long enough Who is better than van la parra?? Diakhaby Mbenza Sobhi Kachunga Hadergjonaj Lowe Kongolo But not Quaner...VLP is similarly inept Malone was better too and he's a fanny Ince was better |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2018 9:36:26 GMT 1
maybe we signed them because Usain Bolt turned us down
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2018 9:44:15 GMT 1
Maybe not on Col 😉. But we didn't give him quick balls either, it looks painfully slow again whenever the ball gets to Mooy. There's no point having pace if your playmaker allows the opposition to drop back into defensive mode while he decides what to do with the ball. On reflection I actually don’t think this game suited either Diakhaby or Mbenza who I’m sure are decent players hence the fee Last week Leon Osman nailed it for me when he said Man City left all their pace on the bench because Town would sit deep with two banks and there’d be no space in behind Today until the red card I think Cardiff sat deep denying the space Diakhaby needed to use his pace Throw in a slow town passing game and he was going to struggle. Sobhi if fit would have been better suited today I reckon Mbenza and Diakhaby will ironically look a lot better when play teams who are more adventurous than Cardiff Hopefully they both go on to have fantastic seasons Great post and fully agree. All the play was going to be in front of Cardiff so playing Billing, Mooy and Pritchard was the way to go- our best passers and creative players plus vlp who can attack from ball in hand (so to speak). Wagner is still learning and he got it wrong today. He’s pretty quick though. We’re on the board with a point. Get the cup out of the way and go to Everton where there’ll be more space on the break to run into. Obviously we’ll need to be watertight defensively but it’s a good game for our new pacement to have an impact. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2018 9:51:21 GMT 1
One has played about 20 minutes, the other has featured 3 times for a total of 115 minutes.
Some of our fans are absolutely embarrassing.
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Post by space hardware on Aug 26, 2018 9:58:07 GMT 1
Thought they both showed a couple of good touches but yesterday wasn't a game that I expected them to flourish against a deep and packed defence.
Wrong tactics, I thought.
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Post by royrace on Aug 26, 2018 9:58:08 GMT 1
Who is better than van la parra?? Diakhaby Mbenza Sobhi Kachunga Hadergjonaj Lowe Kongolo But not Quaner...VLP is similarly inept Malone was better too and he's a fanny Ince was better Oh dear. Sent from my SM-G920F using proboards |
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Post by buxtonboys101 on Aug 26, 2018 18:55:02 GMT 1
Yep was even thinking that Malone was an upgrade on what I saw yesterday. I know the two young guys were making their home debuts and as such were obviously nervous but I seem to remember Nahki Wells coming on and scoring immediately, although it took another forty four chances, open goals and penalties before he scored again. No only kidding.
D and Mb are new to English football they have not yet realised that in 'our' game you have to give your all even when there is zero chance of success. Someone should show them the goal the Hef scored at Aston Villa. It is that kind of passion we want to see from our players.
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Post by Porrohman on Aug 26, 2018 19:01:13 GMT 1
Who is better than van la parra?? Diakhaby Mbenza Sobhi Kachunga Hadergjonaj Lowe Kongolo But not Quaner...VLP is similarly inept Malone was better too and he's a fanny Ince was better Kachunga better than VLP 😂😂😂😂😂 |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Aug 26, 2018 19:04:25 GMT 1
Hope you have a right one Just in case like I need neither no more, To be fair there's plenty of right bollocks on here so you'd find a spare no problem... |
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Post by Giggity on Aug 26, 2018 19:08:46 GMT 1
Who is better than van la parra?? Diakhaby Mbenza Sobhi Kachunga Hadergjonaj Lowe Kongolo But not Quaner...VLP is similarly inept Malone was better too and he's a fanny Ince was better The only fanny around here is you you thick mong. |
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Post by garyroberts'leftfoot on Aug 26, 2018 19:33:03 GMT 1
It’s a shame we didn’t use the Chelsea and city games to give them some game time, get them match fit and up to speed. We wrote both games off anyway so wouldn’t have done any harm.
They have both barely played a game in weeks so not a surprise they weren’t on form.
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Post by mids on Aug 26, 2018 20:32:20 GMT 1
Diakhaby Mbenza Sobhi Kachunga Hadergjonaj Lowe Kongolo But not Quaner...VLP is similarly inept Malone was better too and he's a fanny Ince was better The only fanny around here is you you thick mong. Bit harsh that...especially from you...but we're all entitled to an opinion I suppose |
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Post by runner76 on Aug 26, 2018 20:43:51 GMT 1
Start them both against Stoke....
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2018 21:16:56 GMT 1
Diakhaby Mbenza Sobhi Kachunga Hadergjonaj Lowe Kongolo But not Quaner...VLP is similarly inept Malone was better too and he's a fanny Ince was better The only fanny around here is you you thick mong. Fuck me - have you arrived in a time machine from 1975. That’s a hilarious old school reply |
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