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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Sept 20, 2018 6:57:57 GMT 1
Time to move on from last week, shit result but there was enough in the performance to suggest we can get something out of Saturday.
Leicester are strong down the flanks and got ripped to pieces by pace and movement against Bournemouth last week. With that in mind my team would be:
Lossl
Durm Zanka Schindler Kongolo
Billing Mooy
Diakhaby Pritchard VLP
Depoitre
Diakhaby and VLP briefed to run in behind (although VLP hardly ever does) and at the centre backs and Pritchard in there to thread balls through for them.
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Post by El Mel on Sept 20, 2018 7:44:01 GMT 1
We need a point for morale and confidence.
Looking at the fixtures for all the other clubs at the arse end of the table over the next few weeks gives us a chance of getting enough points to stop us getting left too far adrift.
5 points after 10 games is probably a realistic target to aim for as a minimum from where we are right now.
No point even trying to guess the team. Lossl, Shindler, Zanka, Kongolo, Mooy and Billing will play, the rest in anybodies guess.
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Post by faffa on Sept 20, 2018 7:57:55 GMT 1
Bit harsh on Lowe thought he had a good game Saturday
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Sept 20, 2018 8:15:28 GMT 1
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Post by terrier70 on Sept 20, 2018 8:24:29 GMT 1
And back then the Examiner was likely a decent paper too! |
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Post by Convictatthemac on Sept 20, 2018 8:25:57 GMT 1
Away game, so it’ll be 3 at the back again.
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Zanka, Schindler, Kongolo
Durm, Billing, Mooy, Lowe
Pritchard
Depoitré, Mbenza
That’s what I think it should be, but I don’t think that Pritchard plays and Kachunga starts in place of him to make a front 3 of Kachunga, Depoitré, Mbenza.
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Post by Ross83 on Sept 20, 2018 8:44:43 GMT 1
Shocked nobody is going for Hogg! Has to come back in for me, as good as Billing has been we miss Hoggy breaking things up in the middle.. Difficult decision considering Billing or Lowe would have to make way though.
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Sept 20, 2018 8:56:26 GMT 1
Bit harsh on Lowe thought he had a good game Saturday He did, whipped in some great crosses and although he’s never going to get past a man at this level he looked a lot more comfortable than he often did last season. I just think we need to change the formation and setup to give ourselves the best chance of winning, and that means 4 at the back and Kongolo moving out wide. Probably will be 5 at the back and Löwe though. |
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Sept 20, 2018 9:07:51 GMT 1
Depoitre has to play.
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Post by Convictatthemac on Sept 20, 2018 9:12:07 GMT 1
Shocked nobody is going for Hogg! Has to come back in for me, as good as Billing has been we miss Hoggy breaking things up in the middle.. Difficult decision considering Billing or Lowe would have to make way though. Missed Hogg? Since Hogg has been out of the side we have dominated midfield against Everton and Palace, while we have looked the most attacking since Bournemouth last year. Mooy and Billing have been doing plenty of breaking up in the middle. As far as I’m concerned, Hogg is out until further notice, only to get a go if there is a dip in form or injury. |
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Post by Ross83 on Sept 20, 2018 9:23:57 GMT 1
Shocked nobody is going for Hogg! Has to come back in for me, as good as Billing has been we miss Hoggy breaking things up in the middle.. Difficult decision considering Billing or Lowe would have to make way though. Missed Hogg? Since Hogg has been out of the side we have dominated midfield against Everton and Palace, while we have looked the most attacking since Bournemouth last year. Mooy and Billing have been doing plenty of breaking up in the middle. As far as I’m concerned, Hogg is out until further notice, only to get a go if there is a dip in form or injury. Exactly the reason we need him back in.. Mooy needs to be concentrating on creating chances if we have no Pritchard playing either, not helping out Billing who can't play the Hogg role on his own. Hogg epitomise's the "Terrier Spirit", gotta play for me. We haven't exactly been fantastic in the last couple either so think its a bit of a stretch to say we've been a much better side without him.. |
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Post by Convictatthemac on Sept 20, 2018 9:42:44 GMT 1
Missed Hogg? Since Hogg has been out of the side we have dominated midfield against Everton and Palace, while we have looked the most attacking since Bournemouth last year. Mooy and Billing have been doing plenty of breaking up in the middle. As far as I’m concerned, Hogg is out until further notice, only to get a go if there is a dip in form or injury. Exactly the reason we need him back in.. Mooy needs to be concentrating on creating chances if we have no Pritchard playing either, not helping out Billing who can't play the Hogg role on his own. Hogg epitomise's the "Terrier Spirit", gotta play for me. We haven't exactly been fantastic in the last couple either so think its a bit of a stretch to say we've been a much better side without him.. I’m not sure which game you were watching, but Mooy and Billing’s diagonal balls to Löwe and Flo were creating the chances. Now that we are playing 3 at the back, we don’t have a defensive midfielder(Hogg) role in the team. The two midfielders need to have the ability to go both forward and breakup play. Mooy has that ability in spades and it’s becoming apparent that Billing fits the role as well. Hogg is too defensive and it upsets the balance of the team in this formation. |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Sept 20, 2018 9:43:30 GMT 1
It would be very unlucky on Billing if he's left out for Hogg. The only way I can see him starting is if we set up with an ultra defensive 532 or if we revert back to 4231 & bulk up the midfield 3. Personally I'd go with pace on the counter & have a front 3 of VLP, Diakhaby & Mbenza, I think it's time to try something abit different.
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Sept 20, 2018 9:50:52 GMT 1
Hogg's still suspended
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Post by terriersyndrome on Sept 20, 2018 9:58:23 GMT 1
Stoke, Everton & Palace were is 3 matches. |
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Post by Ross83 on Sept 20, 2018 9:58:28 GMT 1
He's served 3 games now. Stoke, Everton & Palace. |
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Post by Ross83 on Sept 20, 2018 10:02:01 GMT 1
Exactly the reason we need him back in.. Mooy needs to be concentrating on creating chances if we have no Pritchard playing either, not helping out Billing who can't play the Hogg role on his own. Hogg epitomise's the "Terrier Spirit", gotta play for me. We haven't exactly been fantastic in the last couple either so think its a bit of a stretch to say we've been a much better side without him.. I’m not sure which game you were watching, but Mooy and Billing’s diagonal balls to Löwe and Flo were creating the chances. Now that we are playing 3 at the back, we don’t have a defensive midfielder(Hogg) role in the team. The two midfielders need to have the ability to go both forward and breakup play. Mooy has that ability in spades and it’s becoming apparent that Billing fits the role as well. Hogg is too defensive and it upsets the balance of the team in this formation. As much as Lowe's delivery was a joy to watch v Palace, I'm just not a fan of 5 at the back against the lower teams.. Would prefer us to be using our wingers and 4 at the back and not leaving ourselves open to the counter. |
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Post by syterrier on Sept 20, 2018 10:09:39 GMT 1
Mooy and Billing starting to form a great partnership in midfield , fantastic long balls out wide and pretty much controlled midfield the last two games ,both could have bagged a goal against Palace, can only see them getting better, lowe played well for me good outlet out wide and put some good crosses in, would like to see Depoitre given a game,hope Wagner is seeing signs that the two new wide men are ready to start soon , think we might get something Saturday if we play as well and we get a bit of luck
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Sept 20, 2018 10:18:08 GMT 1
He's served 3 games now. Stoke, Everton & Palace. The rules were changed in the summer so that you're only suspended from the competition you were sent off in so Stoke doesn't count |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2018 10:21:46 GMT 1
He's served 3 games now. Stoke, Everton & Palace. The rules were changed in the summer so that you're only suspended from the competition you were sent off in so Stoke doesn't count He is fine according to this link. Only Morgan, Rashford and Matic are serving suspensions in the PL. www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/discipline/suspensions |
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Sept 20, 2018 10:48:51 GMT 1
If that's the case then the rule that was published somewhere (can't remember where) & quoted on here was wrong then. Either way I can't see him replacing Mooy or Billing |
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Post by Mastercracker on Sept 20, 2018 10:55:21 GMT 1
If that's the case then the rule that was published somewhere (can't remember where) & quoted on here was wrong then. Either way I can't see him replacing Mooy or Billing Red card based suspensions are still all games. Yellow cards and yellow card based suspensions only count per comp. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2018 11:32:30 GMT 1
If that's the case then the rule that was published somewhere (can't remember where) & quoted on here was wrong then. Either way I can't see him replacing Mooy or BillingI agree, certainly wouldn't be bringing him back just yet, a) Because he let the team down against Cardiff and shouldn't be rewarded by coming straight back into the team. b) We look better with Billing and Mooy in there. |
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Post by Convictatthemac on Sept 20, 2018 12:13:31 GMT 1
I’m not sure which game you were watching, but Mooy and Billing’s diagonal balls to Löwe and Flo were creating the chances. Now that we are playing 3 at the back, we don’t have a defensive midfielder(Hogg) role in the team. The two midfielders need to have the ability to go both forward and breakup play. Mooy has that ability in spades and it’s becoming apparent that Billing fits the role as well. Hogg is too defensive and it upsets the balance of the team in this formation. As much as Lowe's delivery was a joy to watch v Palace, I'm just not a fan of 5 at the back against the lower teams.. Would prefer us to be using our wingers and 4 at the back and not leaving ourselves open to the counter. I think the 3 at the back is a formation that is designed to stop the counter attack because you put 3 defenders(CB’s) in charge of stopping the counter and not 2 CB’s and a DM. Löwe and Flo are still getting up and down the flanks to provide the width in attack. The position we lose is the number 10 but it’s designed that your 2 CM’s come further forward pick up any lose balls around the edge of the box or even further still, to get up around the penalty spot. We saw that on the weekend with both Mooy and Billing getting good chances. It’s the best I’ve seen Town play in this formation and it’s starting to click with both the players and the coaches. Give it some more time and I think this will be the most exciting football many have seen in the last 2 years. We just need to get clinical in front of goal. |
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Post by harrythedog on Sept 20, 2018 12:23:07 GMT 1
We need to be picking players with goals in them, Hogg doesn't offer a threat. If we are to improve then we need to gradually replace the players that got us promoted unfortunately.
He should now be fourth choice behind Mooy, Billing and Williams. Its the same reason why the new wingers in time have got to replace VLP and Kachunga, the problem is that the new wingers and Pritchard have still got a lot to prove.
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Post by BLUE&WHITE on Sept 20, 2018 12:24:36 GMT 1
As much as Lowe's delivery was a joy to watch v Palace, I'm just not a fan of 5 at the back against the lower teams.. Would prefer us to be using our wingers and 4 at the back and not leaving ourselves open to the counter. I think the 3 at the back is a formation that is designed to stop the counter attack because you put 3 defenders(CB’s) in charge of stopping the counter and not 2 CB’s and a DM. Löwe and Flo are still getting up and down the flanks to provide the width in attack. The position we lose is the number 10 but it’s designed that your 2 CM’s come further forward pick up any lose balls around the edge of the box or even further still, to get up around the penalty spot. We saw that on the weekend with both Mooy and Billing getting good chances. It’s the best I’ve seen Town play in this formation and it’s starting to click with both the players and the coaches. Give it some more time and I think this will be the most exciting football many have seen in the last 2 years. We just need to get clinical in front of goal. 👏🏼 Always enjoy your posts. |
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Post by Convictatthemac on Sept 20, 2018 12:35:21 GMT 1
We need to be picking players with goals in them, Hogg doesn't offer a threat. If we are to improve then we need to gradually replace the players that got us promoted unfortunately. He should now be fourth choice behind Mooy, Billing and Williams. Its the same reason why the new wingers in time have got to replace VLP and Kachunga, the problem is that the new wingers and Pritchard have still got a lot to prove.I agree with what you’ve said except I don’t see this as a problem, I see this as room for improvement. |
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Post by benhomly on Sept 20, 2018 12:52:30 GMT 1
If that's the case then the rule that was published somewhere (can't remember where) & quoted on here was wrong then. Either way I can't see him replacing Mooy or Billing Red card based suspensions are still all games. Yellow cards and yellow card based suspensions only count per comp. It's a good job coz under the other method if a Town player got a red card in the Carabo Cup he wouldn't be able to play for the next 3 years  |
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Post by Convictatthemac on Sept 20, 2018 12:54:11 GMT 1
Red card based suspensions are still all games. Yellow cards and yellow card based suspensions only count per comp. It's a good job coz under the other method if a Town player got a red card in the Carabo Cup he wouldn't be able to play for the next 3 years  |
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Post by Kenny irons on Sept 20, 2018 13:12:10 GMT 1
The team could be anyone’s guess but it’s time for Pritchard and depoitre to have a run now. Come on you terriers
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