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Post by est1908 on Jan 15, 2019 0:00:21 GMT 1
Wagner WAS the best manager for us to build for the next season. . Like I said, " Miles too late now for this season to stay up, we should have parted company before the bloody Wolves game and given someone else a chance to KEEP US IN THE PREMIER LEAGUE Tha's bloody tapped lad....
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Jan 15, 2019 0:10:09 GMT 1
No manager will achieve what Wagner has achieved on the budget that he was given to keep us at the highest level ,and really makes me wonder what he could achieve at a bigger club if given a bigger budget
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2019 0:10:15 GMT 1
Steve Clarke is certainly having a good season with Kilmarnock. Worth considering?
Strange, I was thinking about Steve Clarke as well. Was a great assistant manager, and he's overperforming at Kilmarnock.
All the ground work was left in place by our former manager, Steves just reaping the rewards of Lees hard work, Probably something very similar going on at Bury too.
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Post by Wingman on Jan 15, 2019 0:11:14 GMT 1
Your application to join the tit club has been accepted... Another completely normal post that someone has taken offence at. Only on DATM Steve Clarke failed at Reading and got by at West Brom. No for me. Arteta is a great shout but maybe not fashionable enough for him? Man City links floating back up though...
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Post by Wagner Uber Alles on Jan 15, 2019 0:16:16 GMT 1
No manager will achieve what Wagner has achieved on the budget that he was given to keep us at the highest level ,and really makes me wonder what he could achieve at a bigger club if given a bigger budget One of the best managers in Europe. Amazing what he achieved with us tinpots, nobody could do better.
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Post by conman on Jan 15, 2019 0:19:48 GMT 1
What's Ossie Ardilles doing these days? On his jollies in the Falkland Islands I believe..
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Post by ritchie on Jan 15, 2019 0:22:02 GMT 1
Buvac is an interesting one
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Post by Paphos Terrier on Jan 15, 2019 0:22:36 GMT 1
Like I said, " Miles too late now for this season to stay up, we should have parted company before the bloody Wolves game and given someone else a chance to KEEP US IN THE PREMIER LEAGUE Tha's bloody tapped lad.... You've enjoyed watching this dross have you ? You happy clapper type make me sick
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Jan 15, 2019 0:22:47 GMT 1
The first question that needs to be answered is " WHAT DO WE EXPECT FROM THE NEW MANAGER " especially in his first season.
There can be no more room for error with the remaining club funds , and maybe time to be planning a serious challenge to come straight back up instead of wasting silly money to try and survive
The one thing we dont want to do is throw away all the good that Wagner has achieved in his time at Huddersfield Town , and finding a manager to fill his shoes wont be easy
It will be interesting to see how the players react v Man City
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Post by matacaster on Jan 15, 2019 0:26:35 GMT 1
As an aside, having been around a while, I think that many managers are of certain 'types'. Wagner was a fantastic inspirational (or even entrepreneurial) type who could get you to the top and believe in yourself with teamwork etc, but the qualities required to stay at the top are not necessarily those possessed by that type of person. Only a small percentage of people are truly entrepreneurs and only a very small percentage of them succeed big time after initial success (most go bust). Dean Hoyle has mastered both, so be grateful folks! Sam Allardyce is typical of another type of 'I can keep you up with incredibly boring tactics' manager and were it not for the misery it would inflict on supporters, his excessive wage demands mean we wont be giving him a call!
So what do we do?
I reckon a relatively recent world class forward, probably continental, is the way to go and is the Dean Hoyle way. An all out attacking strategy with a couple of fresh faces possibly from much lower leagues with LOTS of pace won't beat Man City or Liverpool, but might just cause a few upsets and save Town. Perhaps some of you could suggest some names?
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Post by diceman on Jan 15, 2019 0:28:53 GMT 1
If we bring someone in after city, or if we stick with Hudson until the end of the season. I think we are all pretty resigned to the idea of going down. The only thing I really want to see for the rest of the season is some entertainment and maybe a few goals. Nothing to lose but pride now.
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Post by BLUE&WHITE on Jan 15, 2019 0:43:37 GMT 1
It's only a point for discussion. Personally I would like arteta. Can see Hudson getting it though. Thought you'd said earlier Jocavenic (sp??) was lined up?? And... Can I not say what I personally would like? (Jokanovic not nailed on but you don't just turn down jobs on the off chance)
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Post by dalesterrier on Jan 15, 2019 0:46:23 GMT 1
Thought you'd said earlier Jocavenic (sp??) was lined up?? And... Can I not say what I personally would like? (Jokanovic not nailed on but you don't just turn down jobs on the off chance) Sorry wasn't meant as a dig just wondered if you knew for sure. The turning down of other jobs makes you wonder...
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Post by BLUE&WHITE on Jan 15, 2019 0:46:39 GMT 1
No manager will achieve what Wagner has achieved on the budget that he was given to keep us at the highest level ,and really makes me wonder what he could achieve at a bigger club if given a bigger budget Or here...
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Post by Porrohman on Jan 15, 2019 0:52:46 GMT 1
Gerrard leads rangers to the title and the joins huddersfield...or totally unrealistic? Hope not, on both counts
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Post by space hardware on Jan 15, 2019 0:56:36 GMT 1
Gerrard leads rangers to the title and the joins huddersfield...or totally unrealistic? Hope not, on both counts It would be worth it, just to see your reaction 😁😁
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Post by est1908 on Jan 15, 2019 1:09:41 GMT 1
Tha's bloody tapped lad.... You've enjoyed watching this dross have you ? You happy clapper type make me sick Glad to help you gip, get it out lad....
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Post by Malvin K on Jan 15, 2019 1:14:44 GMT 1
If were going to go for a German manager again I think that Markus Anfang at Koln could be a good option. Did a great job at Holstein Kiel getting them promoted to the 2nd Bundesliga and took them to a 3rd place finish. Lost out in the promotion playoffs in the end. Kiel are traditionally a 3rd/4th tier club in Germany so to get them into that position is a great achievement.
Currently fighting for promotion with Koln. He can come over and bring Simon Terrode with him to tear up the championship next season.
Another could be Daniel Stendel at Barnsley. Seems to be a fan of 'gegenpressing'.
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Post by willo on Jan 15, 2019 1:22:11 GMT 1
Bit of a tough sell considering the nailed on relegation. Would imagine we’ll get someone in from Germany but I think we’ll struggle to get someone in that’s in a job now, which really limits our options. I don't think it's that tough a sell. Any prospective manager will know they will be backed. They'll see the investment that has gone on in the club. They'll know about the great fans. And they'll hopefully relish the chance to build a side to come straight back up. To me, those things would attract the right kind of manager. Probably the biggest draw to anyone coming in is our Chairman who will give them a fair crack to create another piece of history.
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Post by Baby-face Frankenstein on Jan 15, 2019 1:25:07 GMT 1
If were going to go for a German manager again I think that Markus Anfang at Koln could be a good option. Did a great job at Holstein Kiel getting them promoted to the 2nd Bundesliga and took them to a 3rd place finish. Lost out in the promotion playoffs in the end. Kiel are traditionally a 3rd/4th tier club in Germany so to get them into that position is a great achievement. Currently fighting for promotion with Koln. He can come over and bring Simon Terrode with him to tear up the championship next season. Another could be Daniel Stendel at Barnsley. Seems to be a fan of 'gegenpressing'. Anfang wäre ein grossartiger Neubeginn!
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Post by willo on Jan 15, 2019 1:30:14 GMT 1
Couple of names to consider may be.... Mark Warburton or even a real wild card up and coming...... Danny Cowley. Solid and steady and young flair! Not keen on Warburton but mentioned the Cowley Bros in a thread a couple of weeks back as possible replacements if DW were to go. Would certainly be another leftfield appointment, perhaps too much so? No experience at this level or the one below though & would have concerns they could attract the right players & would command respect from those already here. Butt/Scholes/Arteta all worth considering & would definitely have the contacts.
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Post by Porrohman on Jan 15, 2019 1:32:21 GMT 1
It would be worth it, just to see your reaction 😁😁 It'll be bad enough if the bin dippers win the league and we swap places with the chestwankers 😨
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Post by willo on Jan 15, 2019 1:33:24 GMT 1
David Unsworth, 45 years old, currently Everton U23s If he managed us anything like he played for us, fucking no way.
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Post by willo on Jan 15, 2019 1:37:21 GMT 1
Gerrard leads rangers to the title and the joins huddersfield...or totally unrealistic? Hope not, on both counts Gerard needs to do 2-3 years at Rangers & bring some success before any English club will be interested. He’s heading in the right direction but some way to go yet.
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Post by midlander on Jan 15, 2019 1:38:23 GMT 1
I honestly can't think of anyone known that could come in under the current circumstances and do any better than David especially with the squad we've got due to the awful recruitment. Also the attitude and lack of work rate of some of the newer players. Highlighted by the likes if Mbenza walking straight down tunnel on Saturday whilst others cane to applaud fans. Players like him have contributed massively to David's problems and will be glad to see the back of him, Diakhaby and the like. players like him have been brought here and ended up in a vacuum between the senior staff here.. the recruitment of staff and then playing staff has contributed to the 'clubs problems' and unfortunately Dave was part of them... dont think either of the 'named' players came out and said they thought they were too good to be here..? might like to have been coached into the system better maybe??? seen mbenza and diakhaby run round like headless chickens, work rate was ok, instructions and tactics were incredibly difficult to work out and not just for them.. when you start playing players out of position and doing things they have not been used to or ever really played before its a shitty slippery slope.. the players clearly have responsibility but if they are doing what they are asked its difficult.. Everytime you see Mbenza, he looks like a lad who has won a pre match raffle to play that day and has just been told to go and enjoy himself. The lad clearly has something but his inability to function in our rigid system was blatantly clear. Diakhaby likewise based on his complete exclusion over the past few months (despite him being Wagner's #1 summer target) Then read Pritchard"s programme interview the other week where he talks about how much his game has improved defensively. It all points to a clear lack of attacking coaching and players maybe not being able to show their true abilities. Let's be honest, Diakhaby had been written off by Wagner despite his searing pace and our lack of penetration. Gutted as I am at Wagner's departure, it may allow one or two players the platform to show a little more of what they can offer. Rebbe seems to get the blame for everything based on a bad season at Wolfsburg and our summer recruitment but Wagner is the man who signed off on every player as far as I'm aware. I can well imagine a difference of opinions when Wagner's methodology wasn't producing positive results and big signings not even making the bench.
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Post by midlander on Jan 15, 2019 1:41:48 GMT 1
If were going to go for a German manager again I think that Markus Anfang at Koln could be a good option. Did a great job at Holstein Kiel getting them promoted to the 2nd Bundesliga and took them to a 3rd place finish. Lost out in the promotion playoffs in the end. Kiel are traditionally a 3rd/4th tier club in Germany so to get them into that position is a great achievement. Currently fighting for promotion with Koln. He can come over and bring Simon Terrode with him to tear up the championship next season. Another could be Daniel Stendel at Barnsley. Seems to be a fan of 'gegenpressing'. Anfang wäre ein grossartiger Neubeginn! Sure he would, but could you envisage him leaving eff zeh to come here? Highly unlikely.
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Post by y2jarrell on Jan 15, 2019 1:44:19 GMT 1
Big Sam won't be coming. He's too proud of his 'never been relegated from prem' record.
For that reason, I'd take him, as he does do something right. However, I'm not in the mindset to be thinking of replacement for the greatest sports-Related person in my life.
Long live the King.
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Post by faffa on Jan 15, 2019 1:52:13 GMT 1
If DW offered and looks like was going at the end of the season regardless of which league we were in, I’m convinced with DH business acumen that at least a tentative search was started probably involving Rebe. Which hopefully, I’m ignoring whose responsibility for summer signings for a moment. So I’m guessing another upcoming foreign manager probably relatively young.
I’ve no idea who though just sure that the search started weeks ago
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Post by Ibiza Town on Jan 15, 2019 3:57:23 GMT 1
Let’s just re appoint Wagner at the end of the season
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2019 4:20:17 GMT 1
Bring Gerry Murphy out of retirement!
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