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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2019 15:52:16 GMT 1
In the 1955/56 season, when we were also in the top flight, we won the final 4 four matches of the season.
Unfortunately, it wasn't sufficient to compensate for the 7 consecutive defeats earlier in the season......and we were relegated (2nd. bottom, on goal average).
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Post by CaptainHart on Jan 19, 2019 15:57:26 GMT 1
I've always thought that Ross/Buxton was a bigger escape than Jacko/Yorath.
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Post by Kenny irons on Jan 19, 2019 19:06:06 GMT 1
I’m doing a run of our fixtures excluding city to see what points we have to pick up to give us any chance of survival as slim as it is. Everton (H) Win Chelsea (A) lose Arsenal (H) Draw at best Newcastle (A) Win Wolves (H) Win Brighton (A) Win Bournemouth (H) Win West Ham (A) Win Crystal Palace (A) Win Leicester (H) Win Tottenham (A) lose Watford (H) Win Liverpool (A) lose Man Utd (H) lose Southampton (A) Win Points total = 42 points, this is what my heart tells me, my head says very different results So this is what’s needed to give us any chance of survival in my eyes, anything against the top 4/5 is a bonus really. Having won 2 games all season you think we have a chance of winning 7 on a row?! I'll have whatever you're on. Though I think you've overshot the survival target by at least 8 points. Where do I state we will get this anywhere, it was just a quick far fetched guide on what could be needed to survive. Now jog on ya muppet |
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Post by JonsonClarkParis on Jan 19, 2019 19:07:41 GMT 1
Having won 2 games all season you think we have a chance of winning 7 on a row?! I'll have whatever you're on. Though I think you've overshot the survival target by at least 8 points. Where do I state we will get this anywhere, it was just a quick far fetched guide on what could be needed to survive. Now jog on ya muppet Impact is a right tosser mate. Ignore him he’s all mouth |
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Jan 19, 2019 19:25:16 GMT 1
There are 16 games to play with 48 possible points available. If we believe we will be relegated we almost certainly will. An undeniably fantastic era in the history of HTFC has just ended but there's no reason at all why an equally fantastic one is not about to begin. It's time for every Town fan to have true belief that we can pull off another of the great achievements that this club is capable of. That begins tomorrow. For those that think I'm living in the land of fairies I'd advise having a read of this. www.90min.com/posts/6054238-7-of-the-greatest-escapes-from-almost-certain-premier-league-relegationI dont want to poop on your parade but....with the exception of Leicester all those were a million years ago compared to now. Billion pound budgets is what we are up against. You need a dozen international quality players, you need a regular goalscorer, you need luck in abundance and your need not to be more than 10 points adrift. We have played all the easy matches...its over. Town wont win two in a row....fact. We might win tomorrow...its still over. Steal the 1.07 on Betfair and stop dreaming. |
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Post by Made In Yorkshire on Jan 19, 2019 20:13:34 GMT 1
There are 16 games to play with 48 possible points available. If we believe we will be relegated we almost certainly will. An undeniably fantastic era in the history of HTFC has just ended but there's no reason at all why an equally fantastic one is not about to begin. It's time for every Town fan to have true belief that we can pull off another of the great achievements that this club is capable of. That begins tomorrow. For those that think I'm living in the land of fairies I'd advise having a read of this. www.90min.com/posts/6054238-7-of-the-greatest-escapes-from-almost-certain-premier-league-relegationI dont want to poop on your parade but....with the exception of Leicester all those were a million years ago compared to now. Billion pound budgets is what we are up against. You need a dozen international quality players, you need a regular goalscorer, you need luck in abundance and your need not to be more than 10 points adrift. We have played all the easy matches...its over. Town wont win two in a row....fact. We might win tomorrow...its still over. Steal the 1.07 on Betfair and stop dreaming. If we win tomorrow it will be very much 'game on'. |
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Post by specialun on Jan 19, 2019 20:39:18 GMT 1
This is why we still need to bring a couple of attacking options in!
It looks and feels inevitable especially given everything that’s gone against us in the last few months... but not over yet!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2019 21:01:06 GMT 1
I’m doing a run of our fixtures excluding city to see what points we have to pick up to give us any chance of survival as slim as it is. Everton (H) Win draw Chelsea (A) lose Arsenal (H) Draw at best lose Newcastle (A) Win draw Wolves (H) Win draw Brighton (A) Win lose Bournemouth (H) Win West Ham (A) Win lose Crystal Palace (A) Win draw, and only if Duane Dibbley is out injured Leicester (H) Win lose Tottenham (A) lose Watford (H) Win Liverpool (A) lose Man Utd (H) lose Southampton (A) Win draw Points total = 42 points, this is what my heart tells me, my head says very different results So this is what’s needed to give us any chance of survival in my eyes, anything against the top 4/5 is a bonus really. More realistic, I would have thought  Season finishes with us on 22 points. and that's optimistic |
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Post by hypotenuse on Jan 19, 2019 21:03:55 GMT 1
Only Leicester then in reasonably recent history (with a team that actually looked decent on paper but didnt want to play for the manager any more) which possibly reflects the more polarised pattern of points gaining in the prem these days. Article reinforces what a mountain it is for us. The Leicester one is an interesting one. They had an identical record to us at the half way point (19 games) but did get 7 points over Christmas. However, their 7-1-1 run in (22 points in last 9 games) included a defeat to Chelsea and 8 games against the other 8 sides in the bottom half of the prem. we’ve already played nearly all our winnable fixtures. Leicester also had more than half of the team who would be champions one year later. |
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Post by hypotenuse on Jan 19, 2019 21:06:33 GMT 1
I've always thought that Ross/Buxton was a bigger escape than Jacko/Yorath. Agreed, we were completely adrift in March 1993 only to win 12 of the last 16 and were safe with a game to spare - definitely the greatest escape in my 48 years supporting Town. |
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Post by terriertim on Jan 19, 2019 21:07:53 GMT 1
We will go on a 15 match unbeaten run ie 15 points and still get relegated......we lost agaisnt the bottom sides - we are down.....sad to say it but PL is over when the final whistle goes at Southampton.......but last match at home , Manure and we stop then getting into Europe - that will be our final hurrah for now
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Post by space hardware on Jan 19, 2019 21:18:33 GMT 1
I've always thought that Ross/Buxton was a bigger escape than Jacko/Yorath. I've just looked that season up. We lost our first six games and then five straight games around Christmas 😱. Seems amazing that Ian Ross was still in a job by the time Buxton came back. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2019 21:19:41 GMT 1
Only Leicester then in reasonably recent history (with a team that actually looked decent on paper but didnt want to play for the manager any more) which possibly reflects the more polarised pattern of points gaining in the prem these days. Article reinforces what a mountain it is for us. The Leicester one is an interesting one. They had an identical record to us at the half way point (19 games) but did get 7 points over Christmas. However, their 7-1-1 run in (22 points in last 9 games) included a defeat to Chelsea and 8 games against the other 8 sides in the bottom half of the prem. we’ve already played nearly all our winnable fixtures.Leicester also had more than half of the team who would be champions one year later. That is why the league table is false. In actual fact it is far far worse then it looks, and that is er.. pretty bad. |
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Post by Headless Chicken on Jan 19, 2019 21:59:58 GMT 1
If you're going to be realistic you should give up your seat to someone who will support us till the fat lady sings... I bet the majority of the ground accept relegation is a formality because they've watched us all season and aren't blind. Doesn't mean they won't still support the players for the remaining games We've scored 13 goals this season. Are you saying that was Wagner's fault and a new manager will change it? Or are the players simply not good enough? Exactly, my view is we ain't a chance, but in no way will that influence anything - I'm not giving the team talk or playing. Whilst Wagner was here I generally only ever questioned things or moaned with my mates I respected and generally stuck up for him, the club and the players when I thought others were being twats and causing a shitty atmosphere and breaking the bond with the team. Being supportive and thinking we're doomed this season can go together. |
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Post by irverino on Jan 19, 2019 22:02:55 GMT 1
I've always thought that Ross/Buxton was a bigger escape than Jacko/Yorath. I've just looked that season up. We lost our first six games and then five straight games around Christmas 😱. Seems amazing that Ian Ross was still in a job by the time Buxton came back. They were big buddies, at the end of that season Mick was offered Sunderland job & took Ross with him, they couldn't sack Buxton twice!!...doing it once was bad enough! |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2019 22:26:47 GMT 1
I've just looked that season up. We lost our first six games and then five straight games around Christmas 😱. Seems amazing that Ian Ross was still in a job by the time Buxton came back. They were big buddies, at the end of that season Mick was offered Sunderland job & took Ross with him, they couldn't sack Buxton twice!!...doing it once was bad enough! They had mutual friends and Ian Ross approached Mick Buxton and asked him to come back to Leeds Road as First Team Coach, although he's bizarrely listed in the programmes and 100 Years On book as physiotherapist? As soon as Buxton returned, the results started to turn and we had a great end to the season. However, Ian Ross didn't leave for Sunderland. Buxton was offered the assistant managers job at Sunderland, which he took, Ross left soon after but was replaced with Neil Warnock the next day. |
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Post by northnottsblue on Jan 19, 2019 22:40:43 GMT 1
We win away at Southampton on the last day to stop up,and that lot down the road miss out in the playoffs.Extremely unlikely right now,but not impossible !!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2019 22:47:57 GMT 1
We win away at Southampton on the last day to stop up,and that lot down the road miss out in the playoffs.Extremely unlikely right now,but not impossible !!!! Couldn't care less what Leeds do, I'm more bothered about what HTFC do in all honesty. |
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Jan 19, 2019 22:49:54 GMT 1
i think Klopp nailed it when talking about Wagner in his press conference. How unlucky have town been this season? an extra bit of luck we wouldn't be in this position.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2019 10:20:50 GMT 1
They were big buddies, at the end of that season Mick was offered Sunderland job & took Ross with him, they couldn't sack Buxton twice!!...doing it once was bad enough! They had mutual friends and Ian Ross approached Mick Buxton and asked him to come back to Leeds Road as First Team Coach, although he's bizarrely listed in the programmes and 100 Years On book as physiotherapist? As soon as Buxton returned, the results started to turn and we had a great end to the season. However, Ian Ross didn't leave for Sunderland. Buxton was offered the assistant managers job at Sunderland, which he took, Ross left soon after but was replaced with Neil Warnock the next day. Was Ross sacked? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2019 11:06:50 GMT 1
They had mutual friends and Ian Ross approached Mick Buxton and asked him to come back to Leeds Road as First Team Coach, although he's bizarrely listed in the programmes and 100 Years On book as physiotherapist? As soon as Buxton returned, the results started to turn and we had a great end to the season. However, Ian Ross didn't leave for Sunderland. Buxton was offered the assistant managers job at Sunderland, which he took, Ross left soon after but was replaced with Neil Warnock the next day. Was Ross sacked? I think the official line was that he'd resigned but when I spoke to him a few months back he said they'd got rid of him and got Warnock in. Ross never worked at Sunderland at any time though, he went on to work in Iceland for a few years before retirement. Unfortunately, Ian is seriously ill in hospital at the moment and has been since the New Year. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2019 11:12:52 GMT 1
I think the official line was that he'd resigned but when I spoke to him a few months back he said they'd got rid of him and got Warnock in. Ross never worked at Sunderland at any time though, he went on to work in Iceland for a few years before retirement. Unfortunately, Ian is seriously ill in hospital at the moment and has been since the New Year. Sad to hear, thanks Gerald (Ronnie) |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2019 11:24:22 GMT 1
I think the official line was that he'd resigned but when I spoke to him a few months back he said they'd got rid of him and got Warnock in. Ross never worked at Sunderland at any time though, he went on to work in Iceland for a few years before retirement. Unfortunately, Ian is seriously ill in hospital at the moment and has been since the New Year. Sad to hear, thanks Gerald (Ronnie) Glad you got the reference  |
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