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Post by linson on Apr 25, 2019 2:42:13 GMT 1
We should be looking at Terodde & Drexler at Köln but I doubt we will be. Think the Terodde ship sailed when he chose Stuttgart over us three years ago. Still got a cracking scoring record but is not Bundesliga quality so could be open to a move. Don't think he fits the system of Siewert though. I'd definitely have him here, but can't see it unless we are definitely offloading Mounié. Siewert has a system?
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Post by Convictatthemac on Apr 25, 2019 4:03:36 GMT 1
cant see us signing maupay as i think PL clubs will be after him. hopefully we do sign him but what we cant afford to do is focus all our attention on him only to be gazumped and panic buying like we did last summer Watched a YouTube analytics podcast a couple of weeks ago which focused on Championship. Maupay, for all of his goals, does need a fair few chances. He is not as clinical as his goals suggest as Brentford create far more than the majority of their rivals. He would be a massive gamble at the money they want for him. Rightio then, we need the fella who is creating all those chances for him 👍
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Post by capitalterrier on Apr 25, 2019 6:16:06 GMT 1
You Canos be serious?
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Post by Convictatthemac on Apr 25, 2019 7:50:51 GMT 1
Benrahma would be a good pick but Brentford have put a price tag of £30m on him 😱 Maybe we need to go look elsewhere, ala Brentford, for the next up and comer. Looking over in Ligue 2, there’s a young fella Alexis Claude-Maurice(20), who looks like he’s ready for the next step, but could do with a season of the Championship. A VLP style player but with an end product. Lots of pace, can dribble and turn at pace, has a good shot on him. Lorient want €10m for him, but a good season in the Championship could see us double or triple his return like Brentford are doing. Has the usual big teams watching him but I think most will think it’s too soon for him to play regular first team football at those clubs. Plays LM, AM or can play the left side of a front 3.
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Post by drfootball on Apr 25, 2019 8:24:18 GMT 1
Durm won't drop in to the Championship and I wouldn't want to keep him either He hasn't looked good enough for the PL though, either I’m not so sure I think he’s been in our top 3 / 4 players this year , consistent , hard working good going forward and backwards, ok so he’s had the odd mistake in him but in his defence had some right clowns alongside him at times and he’s up against the best strikers and wingers in the world. I like him but I’m afraid he won’t drop to championship.
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Post by mrscribbs on Apr 25, 2019 9:41:49 GMT 1
Think Durm has been steady no more - but given how long he has been injured , with a full pre season I think there is improvement to come . What I cannot understand is why JS does not at least give him a chance at right back as he can't deliver crosses with his left foot and doesn't really cut in either. Given the number of other players who have been tried at right back - Smith,Flo,Duhaney and Bacuna why not Durm ? Especially when Lowe could then play in his natural left back position rather than as a left winger which he cannot do.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2019 9:49:27 GMT 1
He hasn't looked good enough for the PL though, either I’m not so sure I think he’s been in our top 3 / 4 players this year , consistent , hard working good going forward and backwards, ok so he’s had the odd mistake in him but in his defence had some right clowns alongside him at times and he’s up against the best strikers and wingers in the world. I like him but I’m afraid he won’t drop to championship. Think Durm has been linked with FC Koln Bundesliga 2 side but looks like the will be in Bundesliga 1 next season.
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Post by gymroidspump on Apr 25, 2019 11:26:23 GMT 1
Benrahma would be a good pick but Brentford have put a price tag of £30m on him 😱 Maybe we need to go look elsewhere, ala Brentford, for the next up and comer. Looking over in Ligue 2, there’s a young fella Alexis Claude-Maurice(20), who looks like he’s ready for the next step, but could do with a season of the Championship. A VLP style player but with an end product. Lots of pace, can dribble and turn at pace, has a good shot on him. Lorient want €10m for him, but a good season in the Championship could see us double or triple his return like Brentford are doing. Has the usual big teams watching him but I think most will think it’s too soon for him to play regular first team football at those clubs. Plays LM, AM or can play the left side of a front 3. I would like us to get out of that mindset. Buy a player and then looking to sell them on for profit. Why? Unless it's for ridiculous money.i Its massively defeatist. Lets buy players to keep and build teams and the future around them. This is a different Huddersfield Town now, uncharted territory. Imo it needs a different outlook now. We're not bottom feeding anymore.
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Apr 25, 2019 11:34:35 GMT 1
Shopping abroad again? Prices for players in the English market are quite frankly bonkers.
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Post by capitalterrier on Apr 25, 2019 11:48:58 GMT 1
Benrahma would be a good pick but Brentford have put a price tag of £30m on him 😱 Maybe we need to go look elsewhere, ala Brentford, for the next up and comer. Looking over in Ligue 2, there’s a young fella Alexis Claude-Maurice(20), who looks like he’s ready for the next step, but could do with a season of the Championship. A VLP style player but with an end product. Lots of pace, can dribble and turn at pace, has a good shot on him. Lorient want €10m for him, but a good season in the Championship could see us double or triple his return like Brentford are doing. Has the usual big teams watching him but I think most will think it’s too soon for him to play regular first team football at those clubs. Plays LM, AM or can play the left side of a front 3. I would like us to get out of that mindset. Buy a player and then looking to sell them on for profit. Why? Unless it's for ridiculous money.i Its massively defeatist. Lets buy players to keep and build teams and the future around them. This is a different Huddersfield Town now, uncharted territory. Imo it needs a different outlook now. We're not bottom feeding anymore. Fully agree. Whilst we should still be on the lookout for these potential players, we can now be going after more players in their prime and be the next club up the food chain.
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Post by midlander on Apr 25, 2019 11:54:52 GMT 1
Tell you who would be an excellent addition for us and one that could well be available: Ryan Woods. Excellent at Brentford, moves the ball well, gets stuck in and proved at Brentford that he can be active in the final third as well. Jones doesn't seem to fancy him at Stoke, but could be an excellent signing for us to replace Mooy.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Apr 25, 2019 12:10:55 GMT 1
Think Durm has been steady no more - but given how long he has been injured , with a full pre season I think there is improvement to come . What I cannot understand is why JS does not at least give him a chance at right back as he can't deliver crosses with his left foot and doesn't really cut in either. Given the number of other players who have been tried at right back - Smith,Flo,Duhaney and Bacuna why not Durm ? Especially when Lowe could then play in his natural left back position rather than as a left winger which he cannot do. Durm has played a lot of his career at left back He's simply not the same player he was before his injuries (obviously otherwise he wouldn't be with us). Lost all his pace which was his main asset
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Post by ritchie on Apr 25, 2019 12:29:29 GMT 1
Benrahma would be a good pick but Brentford have put a price tag of £30m on him 😱 Maybe we need to go look elsewhere, ala Brentford, for the next up and comer. Looking over in Ligue 2, there’s a young fella Alexis Claude-Maurice(20), who looks like he’s ready for the next step, but could do with a season of the Championship. A VLP style player but with an end product. Lots of pace, can dribble and turn at pace, has a good shot on him. Lorient want €10m for him, but a good season in the Championship could see us double or triple his return like Brentford are doing. Has the usual big teams watching him but I think most will think it’s too soon for him to play regular first team football at those clubs. Plays LM, AM or can play the left side of a front 3. I would like us to get out of that mindset. Buy a player and then looking to sell them on for profit. Why? Unless it's for ridiculous money.i Its massively defeatist. Lets buy players to keep and build teams and the future around them. This is a different Huddersfield Town now, uncharted territory. Imo it needs a different outlook now. We're not bottom feeding anymore. counter argument, a lot of folk are obsessed with signing championship experienced players. players who've been playing in this division for years...and would happily play for us for years...you have to ask why. i want players who want to, and will, outgrow us. until we are an established pl club id expect us to very much be looking to sign players with higher ceilings than us who will be sold on. the likes of sunderland signed a load of -comfortable to stay there non profit making- players and it was a disaster People on here only mention the failed ones, especially this year with diakhaby and co. but its been incredibly successful for us, pilks, hunt, rhodes, clayton, butterfield, norwood, coady, wells, (soon to be) billing have all helped us progress on the pitch and THEN helped us progress financially. this way of operating basically helped us upgrade from a clayton to a mooy. we're shopping in a different market now but it can still work bacuna and grant will likely be sold on at some point, hamer and durm will leave for nowt. Its not defeatist in the slightest, we always sign a blend of both. Please tell me a summer we havent?
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Post by Convictatthemac on Apr 25, 2019 12:54:37 GMT 1
Benrahma would be a good pick but Brentford have put a price tag of £30m on him 😱 Maybe we need to go look elsewhere, ala Brentford, for the next up and comer. Looking over in Ligue 2, there’s a young fella Alexis Claude-Maurice(20), who looks like he’s ready for the next step, but could do with a season of the Championship. A VLP style player but with an end product. Lots of pace, can dribble and turn at pace, has a good shot on him. Lorient want €10m for him, but a good season in the Championship could see us double or triple his return like Brentford are doing. Has the usual big teams watching him but I think most will think it’s too soon for him to play regular first team football at those clubs. Plays LM, AM or can play the left side of a front 3. I would like us to get out of that mindset. Buy a player and then looking to sell them on for profit. Why? Unless it's for ridiculous money.i Its massively defeatist. Lets buy players to keep and build teams and the future around them. This is a different Huddersfield Town now, uncharted territory. Imo it needs a different outlook now. We're not bottom feeding anymore. Think you are missing the point. Right now we need to pick players who are breaking through, the ones that need one or two years developing in the Championship to make the step to the Premier League. Players that can hit 20+ goals who are strikers or 10+ for midfielders. The hope is that step up to the PL is with us. I believe we can bounce back up in the next two seasons. What needs to be different, is the players that go up with us next time, have a higher ceiling so we stay up. If we don’t go up, then you sell the player on after a couple of years, hopefully for massive money so you have a sustainable model. It’s not all about just buying players to sell on, you definitely have to put experienced heads into the team. The problem with experienced players is that they’re a diminishing asset, if you don’t get to the PL, you may struggle to sell them on let alone get a profit.
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Post by ben1987 on Apr 25, 2019 13:10:17 GMT 1
I would like us to get out of that mindset. Buy a player and then looking to sell them on for profit. Why? Unless it's for ridiculous money.i Its massively defeatist. Lets buy players to keep and build teams and the future around them. This is a different Huddersfield Town now, uncharted territory. Imo it needs a different outlook now. We're not bottom feeding anymore. counter argument, a lot of folk are obsessed with signing championship experienced players. players who've been playing in this division for years...and would happily play for us for years...you have to ask why. i want players who want to, and will, outgrow us. until we are an established pl club id expect us to very much be looking to sign players with higher ceilings than us who will be sold on. the likes of sunderland signed a load of -comfortable to stay there non profit making- players and it was a disaster People on here only mention the failed ones, especially this year with diakhaby and co. but its been incredibly successful for us, pilks, hunt, rhodes, clayton, butterfield, norwood, coady, wells, (soon to be) billing have all helped us progress on the pitch and THEN helped us progress financially. this way of operating basically helped us upgrade from a clayton to a mooy. we're shopping in a different market now but it can still work bacuna and grant will likely be sold on at some point, hamer and durm will leave for nowt. Its not defeatist in the slightest, we always sign a blend of both. Please tell me a summer we havent? The other issue with experienced championship players is that they demand massive wages.
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Post by midlander on Apr 25, 2019 14:24:25 GMT 1
Something that hasn't really been discussed much, but could well have a massive impact on us next year, if not careful. When we got promoted, we did so with a squad and team who had virtually no top flight experience. There was no fear and each player attacked that season with the enthusiasm and no fear of what the step up would mean if we achieved it. Not one of those players knew whether they would be able to cut it at PL level so there was a massive desire to get there and see. Problem we now have is that we have a group of players who were clearly good enough to do well in the Championship three years ago, but most of them will now have the realisation that they are simply not good enough for that level above. So, rather than busting a gut to see if they are good enough, we will have a majority who won't be as keen to get up. The no fear factor will have gone. Look at Ince. Tore the Champ up, got his move to PL and whilst his technique was good, he simply didn't have the explosion of pace to be effective. No shock that he has been average at best this season at Stoke (admittedly, they did start the season with a defensive mindset). Pritchard will fall into this category for us next year. Top Champ player striving to be in PL. He must now know he isn't good enough for the PL, so has he got the mentality to be a top Champ player again? Keeping the majority of the likes of Mooy, Kongolo, Bacuna and Grant means that we maintain a hunger. This then needs supplementing with the next group of players eager to see if they can hack it at the top level. Get that desire right and we do have enough quality to push next season. So, look to hungry Champ/Lg1 players as well as abroad and we could well be fine.
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Post by linson on Apr 25, 2019 14:29:32 GMT 1
Benrahma would be a good pick but Brentford have put a price tag of £30m on him 😱 Maybe we need to go look elsewhere, ala Brentford, for the next up and comer. Looking over in Ligue 2, there’s a young fella Alexis Claude-Maurice(20), who looks like he’s ready for the next step, but could do with a season of the Championship. A VLP style player but with an end product. Lots of pace, can dribble and turn at pace, has a good shot on him. Lorient want €10m for him, but a good season in the Championship could see us double or triple his return like Brentford are doing. Has the usual big teams watching him but I think most will think it’s too soon for him to play regular first team football at those clubs. Plays LM, AM or can play the left side of a front 3. I would like us to get out of that mindset. Buy a player and then looking to sell them on for profit. Why? Unless it's for ridiculous money.i Its massively defeatist. Lets buy players to keep and build teams and the future around them. This is a different Huddersfield Town now, uncharted territory. Imo it needs a different outlook now. We're not bottom feeding anymore. I have to say I completely disagree. If Arsenal cannot hold onto some of their best players, what makes us think we can hold on to ours? If I were manager I would actively go and find and buy players who are too good for the club and have an agreement with them that if everything was going well and they give us a minimum of two seasons and if they wanted to leave for a good sale price I would let them leave. This benefits the club two ways, firstly we get a better player than what we currently have and secondly we make a tidy profit. The player gets game time and progresses their career and we progress the club both financially and on the field.
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Post by ldotm on Apr 25, 2019 14:29:43 GMT 1
Tell you who would be an excellent addition for us and one that could well be available: Ryan Woods. Excellent at Brentford, moves the ball well, gets stuck in and proved at Brentford that he can be active in the final third as well. Jones doesn't seem to fancy him at Stoke, but could be an excellent signing for us to replace Mooy. Going off this forum the last few days about Brentford - maybe the best signing would be their chief scout.
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Apr 25, 2019 15:20:37 GMT 1
I would like us to get out of that mindset. Buy a player and then looking to sell them on for profit. Why? Unless it's for ridiculous money.i Its massively defeatist. Lets buy players to keep and build teams and the future around them. This is a different Huddersfield Town now, uncharted territory. Imo it needs a different outlook now. We're not bottom feeding anymore. Think you are missing the point. Right now we need to pick players who are breaking through, the ones that need one or two years developing in the Championship to make the step to the Premier League. Players that can hit 20+ goals who are strikers or 10+ for midfielders. The hope is that step up to the PL is with us. I believe we can bounce back up in the next two seasons. What needs to be different, is the players that go up with us next time, have a higher ceiling so we stay up. If we don’t go up, then you sell the player on after a couple of years, hopefully for massive money so you have a sustainable model. It’s not all about just buying players to sell on, you definitely have to put experienced heads into the team. The problem with experienced players is that they’re a diminishing asset, if you don’t get to the PL, you may struggle to sell them on let alone get a profit. Absolutely spot on.
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Post by yappledapple on Apr 25, 2019 22:40:10 GMT 1
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Post by teddytheterrier on Apr 26, 2019 8:25:53 GMT 1
No chance will we keep the likes of Mooy and Kongolo. The only 2 players that could probably get in at another pl club.
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Post by Headless Chicken on Apr 26, 2019 8:27:56 GMT 1
No chance will we keep the likes of Mooy and Kongolo. The only 2 players that could probably get in at another pl club. If they could only 'probably' get in another Prem club, why is there 'no chance' we could keep them?
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Post by teddytheterrier on Apr 26, 2019 8:29:02 GMT 1
No chance will we keep the likes of Mooy and Kongolo. The only 2 players that could probably get in at another pl club. If they could only 'probably' get in another Prem club, why is there 'no chance' we could keep them? They'd get into a few of the squads maybe not starting 11s. You think we'll keep them? Mooy will be in the pl next season that's for sure.
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Post by gymroidspump on Apr 26, 2019 8:43:52 GMT 1
Am I the only one who isn't bothered about Mooy? Too slow, too sideways, too backwards. If Siewert does implement his "straight lines" football, as in get it forward with speed, like Dortmund do, I don't see any need for a player like Mooy. Bacuna will be better than Mooy
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2019 8:47:45 GMT 1
This quotes 6 from the first team squad out of contract. I know Lossl, Depoitre, Williams and Durm are out of contract but who are the other two? I can only assume they're including Puncheon and Mbenza unless I'm missing something
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Post by dewsburyterrier on Apr 26, 2019 9:00:31 GMT 1
This quotes 6 from the first team squad out of contract. I know Lossl, Depoitre, Williams and Durm are out of contract but who are the other two? I can only assume they're including Puncheon and Mbenza unless I'm missing something Jack Payne is one.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2019 9:19:57 GMT 1
No chance will we keep the likes of Mooy and Kongolo. The only 2 players that could probably get in at another pl club. We’ll see. Mooy going nowhere.
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Apr 26, 2019 9:38:02 GMT 1
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Post by ldotm on Apr 26, 2019 9:39:43 GMT 1
Mooy Kongolo Schindler Bacuna Grant Hogg
They’re the only players I’d love to keep (not including youngsters who have made only a few appearances like Daly, Rowe etc) - obviously with the likes of Mooy, Kongolo, if they’re desperate to leave and we receive a reasonable price then so be it.
There’s a few that if they can meet the same level as the promotion season - Smith, Lowe, Kachunga etc then I’d be happy to keep but wouldn’t be overly bothered if again shipped on for a fair fee. Think a revamp is needed and new excitement and hunger for the players and fans.
Also would keep Lewis O’Brien as he’s been very impressive this year in League One and only young (yes Bradford have been shocking, but not down to him) have it on good authority that he’s very much in the plans next year anyway.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Apr 26, 2019 9:47:03 GMT 1
No chance will we keep the likes of Mooy and Kongolo. The only 2 players that could probably get in at another pl club. We’ll see. Mooy going nowhere. Hope that's correct but if someone comes waving pound notes at him then he won't be staying
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