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Post by andyeastleake on Oct 29, 2023 15:06:56 GMT 1
We look much better at 0-4 down. Is there something wrong with my computer or set up... ...or is Prepare's reply to my post just blank?
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Post by 3Pipe on Oct 29, 2023 15:08:44 GMT 1
Just appears blank to me.
One of prepare's better posts.
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Post by Marshleeds on Oct 29, 2023 15:13:33 GMT 1
Deliberately left it 24 hours so as not to be seen as gloating or patronising (that means talking down to people 😉) Didn’t see you Martin aka gledholt terrier either but presume you met the usual Hudds based Leeds suspects with whom I share their bemusement at how poor Town were yesterday. Haven’t seen much of Town this season tbh mainly just match highlights on TV and whilst purposely not wanting to seem Billy Big Bollox by making any bold predictions on here pre-match felt our unexplainable lethargic showing midweek v Stoke (A) would not be repeated yesterday and coupled with the Town defeat v Cardiff (H) plus general DATM (and Town Supporting Family / Mates ) pessimism that even I was semi optimistic when usually a Leeds v Town Fixture fills me with a nagging dread of you pulling something unexpected off, however unlikely, I call it Cowling Syndrome. My take on it from a Leeds perspective; Town Fans in ground were very loud pre-match and up to 1st Goal conceded. Hogg imo could have easily seen Red never mind yellow for his challenge on Ampadu which would have just compounded the imbalance which soon became evident as many on here predicted. Easy to say with hindsight but had I made a tentative prediction on Friday Eve with the added knowledge of no Rodoni or Koroma for you I would have been fearful for you if we were to score first (a rarity for us this season) and relatively early which we did after 20 minutes. 4 before half time was almost dreamland for any Leeds Fans particularly those in the general Cleckhuddersfax Area who live, work and drink with Town Fans and all the bragging rights that naturally brings, till March at least. Could not believe the ease with which Rutter bypassed Edwards? at right back who looked like he won a raffle for a fan to play, looking like he had his pre-match meal an hour before kick off in Gravellys on Elland Road. As the great Billy Connolly said “No stranger to a Fish Supper” ….also a minor incident but the Foul Throw from Diarra? summed up your day. This would be criminal at school level and no surprise both got hooked at Half Time (big hook for the barrel of a man that is Edwards?) Being totally greedy wished we’d have kept the foot to the metal 2nd Half and scored more goals and was semi gutted not to keep a clean sheet and lose the 2nd half but a convincing win and 3 points was welcome especially with Leicester, Ipswich and Southampton all winning too as expected and The Foxes (A) next for us on Friday. Genuinely really surprised at how little Town offered, no wonder you are all up in arms currently on here and vocally at Darren Moore in the ground.Also reading that with Gareth Ainsworth’s inevitable exit from QPR Neil Warnock is being touted as favourite to replace him and try work miracles there too, that would cause meltdown on here no doubt. A happier Sunday for me and ours than you and yours this time and will of course watch our goals back on repeat but understandably one for you to forget. Mate we could have rocked up at any Championship team yesterday and been beaten as badly (and that's not decrying how good you are). Losing to you is never great but it is softened by a bigger picture as far as we are concerned. We have bigger problems than worrying about what happens in "our cup final". I don't say that to be dismissive or confrontational I say it because it is true. I always respect your contributions here and genuinely wish you all the best. Appreciate that dugnet and have still to meet Town Supporting Mates and Family post result but know how fearful they were ahead of yesterday, unusually so and have never seen them so downbeat with their team or the immediate future.
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Post by tepidterrier on Oct 29, 2023 15:19:20 GMT 1
There is a picture on social media that seems to show that fat right back having a beer wearing fancy dress at a party last night. If that is the case, and it might not be, I’d suggest someone at Town needs to get a grip of what’s going on. Why you would let that be put on social media after a performance like that is beyond me. No surprise at all considering the reports of his previous behaviour at Stoke. He was referred to as out of shape and constantly getting seen on nights out. I can't think of a previous Town player I've disliked more after such a short amount of time. Even the various expensive, shit, or lazy ones at least kept themselves in the shape of a professional athlete. The only thing I can't accuse the fat fucker of being is gutless
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Post by durhamterrier on Oct 29, 2023 15:52:58 GMT 1
What baffles me the most is dropping Pearson . He’s been up and down this season but is one id want on my team in a derby like that Pearson has been awful all season. Well he hasn’t but ok
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Post by durhamterrier on Oct 29, 2023 16:00:41 GMT 1
Deliberately left it 24 hours so as not to be seen as gloating or patronising (that means talking down to people 😉) Didn’t see you Martin aka gledholt terrier either but presume you met the usual Hudds based Leeds suspects with whom I share their bemusement at how poor Town were yesterday. Haven’t seen much of Town this season tbh mainly just match highlights on TV and whilst purposely not wanting to seem Billy Big Bollox by making any bold predictions on here pre-match felt our unexplainable lethargic showing midweek v Stoke (A) would not be repeated yesterday and coupled with the Town defeat v Cardiff (H) plus general DATM (and Town Supporting Family / Mates ) pessimism that even I was semi optimistic when usually a Leeds v Town Fixture fills me with a nagging dread of you pulling something unexpected off, however unlikely, I call it Cowling Syndrome. My take on it from a Leeds perspective; Town Fans in ground were very loud pre-match and up to 1st Goal conceded. Hogg imo could have easily seen Red never mind yellow for his challenge on Ampadu which would have just compounded the imbalance which soon became evident as many on here predicted. Easy to say with hindsight but had I made a tentative prediction on Friday Eve with the added knowledge of no Rodoni or Koroma for you I would have been fearful for you if we were to score first (a rarity for us this season) and relatively early which we did after 20 minutes. 4 before half time was almost dreamland for any Leeds Fans particularly those in the general Cleckhuddersfax Area who live, work and drink with Town Fans and all the bragging rights that naturally brings, till March at least. Could not believe the ease with which Rutter bypassed Edwards? at right back who looked like he won a raffle for a fan to play, looking like he had his pre-match meal an hour before kick off in Gravellys on Elland Road. As the great Billy Connolly said “No stranger to a Fish Supper” ….also a minor incident but the Foul Throw from Diarra? summed up your day. This would be criminal at school level and no surprise both got hooked at Half Time (big hook for the barrel of a man that is Edwards?) Being totally greedy wished we’d have kept the foot to the metal 2nd Half and scored more goals and was semi gutted not to keep a clean sheet and lose the 2nd half but a convincing win and 3 points was welcome especially with Leicester, Ipswich and Southampton all winning too as expected and The Foxes (A) next for us on Friday. Genuinely really surprised at how little Town offered, no wonder you are all up in arms currently on here and vocally at Darren Moore in the ground.Also reading that with Gareth Ainsworth’s inevitable exit from QPR Neil Warnock is being touted as favourite to replace him and try work miracles there too, that would cause meltdown on here no doubt. A happier Sunday for me and ours than you and yours this time and will of course watch our goals back on repeat but understandably one for you to forget. Mate we could have rocked up at any Championship team yesterday and been beaten as badly (and that's not decrying how good you are). Losing to you is never great but it is softened by a bigger picture as far as we are concerned. We have bigger problems than worrying about what happens in "our cup final". I don't say that to be dismissive or confrontational I say it because it is true. I always respect your contributions here and genuinely wish you all the best. Norwich , Cardiff and Birmingham did the exact same to us . We are such an extremely poor , soft side
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Oct 29, 2023 16:18:44 GMT 1
Turton got (& will get after his first mistake), dogs abuse on here, but he’s been a huge miss for us this season. I do think he’d have dealt far better with that threat down their left yesterday. Maxwell seems to be stealing a wage. Maxwell? Presume you mean Edwards? Of course, where on earth did I get Maxwell from?
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Post by rockwall on Oct 29, 2023 16:44:53 GMT 1
Hopefully he won't walk down our tunnel as our manager again. The last 2 games have completely changed my mind on him. He is an incompetent, useless sack of shite. I really do not understand what somebody with his level of coaching sees. We set up yet again with 2 strikers. But none of them actually get into the box. We set up with the slowest full back I have ever seen, playing against Summerville. It isn't ideal, but REG should be in that role currently until we have another option. At least he is capable of defending. We then play Diarra, who is very ineffective off the ball, in a game where we are barely going to get a touch. Inexperience or not, other option would have been to throw young Austerfield in. Or even Ruffels; who was a central midfielder until a few years ago. Yes Pearson didn't have the best game against Cardiff, but he should have started. We looked much better with him, Helik and Lees. Where do we go from here? We are playing a poor Watford team at Home. Without Rudoni and Hogg. No game right now is must win, but these are games we have to take 3 points in due to the oppositions league position. I don't know if anyone else saw it, but on the way off at Half Time, Nicholls fired into Basso, he wasn't happy at all. Is this players losing faith in the coaching already? Gut feeling is, we have to be brutal, Moore has to go. We need a manager who is a breathe of fresh air, bit of a personality. Not someone who has swallowed the FA vocabulary manual of clichés. I mentioned this on another thread yesterday and I’ll say it again. What is this constant need that people have about a manager having a personality, breath of fresh air, inspirational, connection with the fans. I couldn’t care if we have the most mundane, boring manager on the planet as long as we are performing. We aren’t performing. We have a very, very weak squad and an average team, at best, when at full strength. Moore has a big couple of weeks coming up which could define how the club decide to react, if there is to be any reaction. We can all say who should have played after the event. We would have got rinsed yesterday anyway due to the huge gulf in class. The performance was the worst I’ve seen at Leeds and I’ve been many times. Vocally destroying a new manager at the game is, in my opinion, inconducive and just makes the whole thing toxic. Anyway, we will see how it all pans out. The need is because even the players look bored. Enthusiasm and personality has an effect throughout the whole club. Look at any successful manager, even with town. All had something unique about their personalities.
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Post by CurlyWurly on Oct 29, 2023 16:47:24 GMT 1
Maxwell? Presume you mean Edwards? Of course, where on earth did I get Maxwell from? To be fair Rambo called him that on Tuesday night
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Post by rockwall on Oct 29, 2023 16:47:35 GMT 1
Maxwell? Presume you mean Edwards? Of course, where on earth did I get Maxwell from? He probably moved quicker sat on the bench to be fair.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Oct 29, 2023 17:13:45 GMT 1
A couple of moments that sum up the quality gap for me.
The first goal for them was a sublime pass to the winger, the finish then owed a lot to poor defending.
Then Burgzorg doesn’t react quickly or strongly enough when a chance presents itself to go 1-1. I said he’s a luxury player & he’ll need to do something pretty special if he wants to have the supporters rooting for him. Great footwork 80% of the time, but doesn’t pass, and lacks composure and quality when he does get the occasional chance.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Oct 29, 2023 18:07:27 GMT 1
A couple of moments that sum up the quality gap for me. The first goal for them was a sublime pass to the winger, the finish then owed a lot to poor defending. Then Burgzorg doesn’t react quickly or strongly enough when a chance presents itself to go 1-1. I said he’s a luxury player & he’ll need to do something pretty special if he wants to have the supporters rooting for him. Great footwork 80% of the time, but doesn’t pass, and lacks composure and quality when he does get the occasional chance. All the goals are preventable, not sure Nichols should be getting beat on his near post with the first, the 2nd is an absolute joke, the 3rd Nakayama is just jogging back trailing in James' wake getting fucking sprinting man and the 4th Wiles and Edwards leaving it to each other.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Oct 29, 2023 18:17:12 GMT 1
Yeah, all crap, just highlighting how far away we are just now.
You could have mentioned a couple more chances in that first half as well.
Sounds daft, but I came away from the game last Tues, at least a little heartened by the fact they were still trying, even though they must have know it was a lost cause after 70 mins.
But another 4 goal concession like that capitulation yesterday, concerns me that they’re descending into a bad place psychologically.
Sounds so obvious, but we have to stop gifting goals. We don’t score many, so 1-0 down is tricky, 2-0 down is tough, but 3+ goals down and this side is mentally beaten, even if we put together some attacks it makes me think they’re feeling a bit sorry for themselves. There are some exceptions to this, but that list of players diminishes every game we fail to perform.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Oct 29, 2023 18:23:03 GMT 1
Yeah, all crap, just highlighting how far away we are just now. You could have mentioned a couple more chances in that first half as well. Sounds daft, but I came away from the game last Tues, at least a little heartened by the fact they were still trying, even though they must have know it was a lost cause after 70 mins. But another 4 goal concession like that capitulation yesterday, concerns me that they’re descending into a bad place psychologically. Sounds so obvious, but we have to stop gifting goals. We don’t score many, so 1-0 down is tricky, 2-0 down is tough, but 3+ goals down and this side is mentally beaten, even if we put together some attacks it makes me think they’re feeling a bit sorry for themselves. There are some exceptions to this, but that list of players diminishes every game we fail to perform. To be honest I would be battening down the hatches next week defensively and trying to grind a 1 nil win out just to stop the rot.
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Post by bluesandtwos on Oct 29, 2023 18:44:01 GMT 1
Yeah, all crap, just highlighting how far away we are just now. You could have mentioned a couple more chances in that first half as well. Sounds daft, but I came away from the game last Tues, at least a little heartened by the fact they were still trying, even though they must have know it was a lost cause after 70 mins. But another 4 goal concession like that capitulation yesterday, concerns me that they’re descending into a bad place psychologically. Sounds so obvious, but we have to stop gifting goals. We don’t score many, so 1-0 down is tricky, 2-0 down is tough, but 3+ goals down and this side is mentally beaten, even if we put together some attacks it makes me think they’re feeling a bit sorry for themselves. There are some exceptions to this, but that list of players diminishes every game we fail to perform. To be honest I would be battening down the hatches next week defensively and trying to grind a 1 nil win out just to stop the rot. I was thinking just the same. We, at least, need to try and build some confidence back because they look like they did multiple times last season, just unsure of themselves and their teammates. Not easy with such a poor squad but our three central defenders have proved themselves very resilient before and need to get back to that. I do think Nichols has the same issue.
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Post by Duff as old Boots on Oct 29, 2023 19:02:03 GMT 1
There is a picture on social media that seems to show that fat right back having a beer wearing fancy dress at a party last night. If that is the case, and it might not be, I’d suggest someone at Town needs to get a grip of what’s going on. Why you would let that be put on social media after a performance like that is beyond me. His fancy dress outfit wasn't as a professional footballer was it?
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Post by sabailand on Oct 29, 2023 19:20:03 GMT 1
What pissed me off yesterday (and it can happen to the good teams) was their first came from our throw level with their penalty area, it got cleared and seconds later its 1-0.
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Post by rockwall on Oct 29, 2023 19:57:09 GMT 1
A couple of moments that sum up the quality gap for me. The first goal for them was a sublime pass to the winger, the finish then owed a lot to poor defending. Then Burgzorg doesn’t react quickly or strongly enough when a chance presents itself to go 1-1. I said he’s a luxury player & he’ll need to do something pretty special if he wants to have the supporters rooting for him. Great footwork 80% of the time, but doesn’t pass, and lacks composure and quality when he does get the occasional chance. Their 1st came from Edwards throwing it long into the box to no1. The counter was stunning by Leeds, but why are attempting the long throw? It has never, ever worked. That chance of Burgzorgs, I kind of feel sorry for him, the miss by the defender caused him to be in a position where he didn't have time to adjust his body. He was probably a foot too close to the ball to knock it into his stride and finish.
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Post by ebargum on Oct 29, 2023 20:14:17 GMT 1
I can tell the positivity crew on here we'rent in the away end getting mocked for 70 minutes by our biggest rivals Aw didums. You need to learn to cope with that.
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Post by CurlyWurly on Oct 29, 2023 20:27:48 GMT 1
I can tell the positivity crew on here we'rent in the away end getting mocked for 70 minutes by our biggest rivals Aw didums. You need to learn to cope with that. And that's the attitude that's ruined the club since we went up
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Post by duncfost01 on Oct 29, 2023 20:35:23 GMT 1
Met with loads of Leeds fans I know yesterday and all were bemused and sympathetic - couldn’t believe how shocking we were. Didn’t bump in to Marsh though! Deliberately left it 24 hours so as not to be seen as gloating or patronising (that means talking down to people 😉) Didn’t see you Martin aka gledholt terrier either but presume you met the usual Hudds based Leeds suspects with whom I share their bemusement at how poor Town were yesterday. Haven’t seen much of Town this season tbh mainly just match highlights on TV and whilst purposely not wanting to seem Billy Big Bollox by making any bold predictions on here pre-match felt our unexplainable lethargic showing midweek v Stoke (A) would not be repeated yesterday and coupled with the Town defeat v Cardiff (H) plus general DATM (and Town Supporting Family / Mates ) pessimism that even I was semi optimistic when usually a Leeds v Town Fixture fills me with a nagging dread of you pulling something unexpected off, however unlikely, I call it Cowling Syndrome. My take on it from a Leeds perspective; Town Fans in ground were very loud pre-match and up to 1st Goal conceded. Hogg imo could have easily seen Red never mind yellow for his challenge on Ampadu which would have just compounded the imbalance which soon became evident as many on here predicted. Easy to say with hindsight but had I made a tentative prediction on Friday Eve with the added knowledge of no Rodoni or Koroma for you I would have been fearful for you if we were to score first (a rarity for us this season) and relatively early which we did after 20 minutes. 4 before half time was almost dreamland for any Leeds Fans particularly those in the general Cleckhuddersfax Area who live, work and drink with Town Fans and all the bragging rights that naturally brings, till March at least. Could not believe the ease with which Rutter bypassed Edwards? at right back who looked like he won a raffle for a fan to play, looking like he had his pre-match meal an hour before kick off in Gravellys on Elland Road. As the great Billy Connolly said “No stranger to a Fish Supper” ….also a minor incident but the Foul Throw from Diarra? summed up your day. This would be criminal at school level and no surprise both got hooked at Half Time (big hook for the barrel of a man that is Edwards?) Being totally greedy wished we’d have kept the foot to the metal 2nd Half and scored more goals and was semi gutted not to keep a clean sheet and lose the 2nd half but a convincing win and 3 points was welcome especially with Leicester, Ipswich and Southampton all winning too as expected and The Foxes (A) next for us on Friday. Genuinely really surprised at how little Town offered, no wonder you are all up in arms currently on here and vocally at Darren Moore in the ground.Also reading that with Gareth Ainsworth’s inevitable exit from QPR Neil Warnock is being touted as favourite to replace him and try work miracles there too, that would cause meltdown on here no doubt. A happier Sunday for me and ours than you and yours this time and will of course watch our goals back on repeat but understandably one for you to forget. A very fair post. Didn’t gloat and totally right with everything he says. Hats of to you - you are the only Leeds fan that I possibly ever liked. Enough now. Dunc. Think you will catch Ipswich and go back up to the greedy league - where the three that went up are in the bottom three. Huge gulf between the two. In other news quite funny whilst driving down to work listening to Man Utd fans on 606….. the highlight a very funny city fan who wants Spurs to win the premier league - a very clever gloat…. UTT
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Post by horaceofhorbury on Oct 30, 2023 17:08:57 GMT 1
I genuinely think we'd have played better under Fotheringham. I genuinely think we'd have played better under water Only bright spot in an otherwise unremittingly bleak few days. Thank-you!
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Post by morleyterrier on Oct 31, 2023 20:28:29 GMT 1
Just bumped in to a couple I know, both Leeds season ticket holders, friends I have known for years.
They said ‘I am sorry to say this but we have seen some bad sides down there, but you are the worst side we have seen for a long, long time. We should have got 10’.
Not rubbing it in, more ‘what’s happening at Town?.’
I said you are the wrong person to be asking that.
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Post by andyeastleake on Oct 31, 2023 20:55:39 GMT 1
Their 1st came from Edwards throwing it long into the box to no1. Your interpretation of the phrase "Throwing it long" differs to mine. You are Duane Holmes & I claim my £10.
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Post by Mastercracker on Oct 31, 2023 21:03:37 GMT 1
Their 1st came from Edwards throwing it long into the box to no1. Your interpretation of the phrase "Throwing it long" differs to mine. You are Duane Holmes & I claim my £10. 90% of the away end could throw it just as far.
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