Worthington for last 2 games

[micksmith109]

Still not convinced by AB his selections, subs etc and style or coaching don’t work.
Maybe let Worthy take the last couple of games what else have we to lose.

[duncfost01]

all day long

[Moooooy]

We could give it to Guardiola, with Klopp and Ferguson as assistants, and they still wouldn’t get a tune out of these players. We’re down. The most important thing to do in the summer is get rid of the players. They are all poor footballers, we’ve bought some absolute shite over the past two seasons. Gut the place and rebuild next season.

[Bassingham Terrier]

You know it's not going to happen, so why bother? 🤷🏻‍♂️

[htafcokay]

Here we fucking go.

Give him the job permanently next season. The fans want him in charge, so give him the job and let's see how good he REALLY is.

[teddytheterrier]

Deffo nothing to lose now. This useless chancer will set us up same for Birmingham. Get rid tonight.

[htafcokay]

What happens if Worthington loses the last two? Are we going to claim they "were like wins" again?

Give him the job full-time in the summer and then at least we'll stop the constant whining from the fans who are complete obsessed with every caretaker manager we have.

He wouldn't last the fucking season.

[micksmith109]

Apr 20, 2024 18:14:56 GMT 1 Bassingham Terrier said:

You know it's not going to happen, so why bother? 🤷🏻‍♂️

Don’t know unless you try, stranger things happen.

I’m not saying appoint him full time just we need some fight from the players which they had when he was caretaker earlier.

[Farsley Terrier (UK product)]

I would. Nothing to lose.

[kennyk2]

Apr 20, 2024 18:19:49 GMT 1 Farsley Terrier (UK product) said:

I would. Nothing to lose.

Apart from paying quite a few million for AB and his staff.

[kennyk2]

I am wondering who ties some posters' shoelaces in a morning. Probably their Mums.

[rockwall]

This place is becoming full of absolute dross.

What exactly did worthy do? We still lost games.
We lost 2 goal leads.
We were woeful against Wednesday apart from a 10 minute patch where we put the game to bed.

[Million Dollar Babies]

Said it a few weeks ago. AB has shown us absolutely nothing and if it wasn't for his CV most would be screaming for him to be replaced

[Floyds]

AB is shite.

Pay the useless fucker off and put Brooky in charge for all the difference it’ll make.

[Farsley Terrier (UK product)]

Apr 20, 2024 18:21:17 GMT 1 kennyk2 said:

Apr 20, 2024 18:19:49 GMT 1 Farsley Terrier (UK product) said:

I would. Nothing to lose.

Apart from paying quite a few million for AB and his staff.

which we are paying regardless. Breitenshiter is out of his depth in this relegation scrap. 4-0 at home speaks volumes.

[htafcokay]

Apr 20, 2024 18:22:47 GMT 1 rockwall said:

This place is becoming full of absolute dross.

What exactly did worthy do? We still lost games.
We lost 2 goal leads.
We were woeful against Wednesday apart from a 10 minute patch where we put the game to bed.

Yeah, but they were like wins weren't they?

I honestly think that people forgot that we lost the Southampton and Hull games.

Every time we have a caretaker manager, the fans become obsessed with them. 

Give him the job by all means, but don't start moaning when he does fuck all.

[Amigo]

At this point it doesn't really matter who the manager is it's down to the players themselves to take responsibility and show they have some bollocks for once, nobody on the sideline can do much for them once they get on the pitch they've got to stand up and put the work in.

From what I saw Worthy isn't ready yet so getting rid of AB now means either looking for yet another manager or giving Worthy the job full time and he's probably out of the club altogether by October and we're back to square one again. I could be way off but I think AB needs a pre-season to get his ideas across properly and to get the fitness up to where it needs to be to implement what he wants, the players don't have the fitness he needs so he's trying to fudge it.

Even though I'm 90% sure we're down, Burgzorg can do one the selfish prick, Ward or Healey up front instead for Saturday but apart from that we just don't have the players to make that many changes.

[Venezuelan Pete]

HE DOESN'T WANT THE JOB

[Terriersmad]

Sod off. Seriously. Just sod off.

We go all out to bring in a serial winner, who has won leagues, promotions, taken the unfancied to dizzy heights. Then we give him a squad that isn't good enough, with gaping holes and no balance, with no variation and no options. And it's somehow the manager's fault. People going 'I've seen nothing': well, no. You won't. We've won 9 games all season. Under four different managers. None of them has won more than three games in their tenure. We're desperate for direction and stability.

People wondered why he didn't change it at Rotherham. Well, here's your answer. He changed it today because we had to win. He had to gamble. It backfired. But what could he have done? He had to change system and try to find a way of winning. That involved taking the risk of losing. He didn't tell players to stand off, not track runners, to switch off. The players did that. The system didn't work because when we lost Matos we lost all our quality in the middle. We lost the screen. But senior players didn't assume any leadership and head dropped because we've been underwhelming all season, confidence is at rock bottom, things are always going against us and never for us. We'd lost the game as soon as Ward hit the post. 'Here we go again' - that was writ large on every player's body language.

The only circumstances in which I'd change manager, underwhelming as Breitenreiter has been thus far, is if he does not intend to remain next season. He's inherited a shitshow. Someone needs to be given time and money to turn it round properly and Breitenreiter's record tells us that he does exactly that. He might not be the firefighter we needed. We probably will go down under him. But his responsibility is minimal compared to others and we need stability and ideas from a coach, not a director of football.

Worthington got a lift, but by the time he moved aside that lift had gone. He was a short-term appointment who could operate without pressure. He isn't an answer to anything other than who should manage the academy.

[htafcokay]

Apr 20, 2024 18:48:00 GMT 1 Terriersmad said:

Sod off. Seriously. Just sod off.

We go all out to bring in a serial winner, who has won leagues, promotions, taken the unfancied to dizzy heights. Then we give him a squad that isn't good enough, with gaping holes and no balance, with no variation and no options. And it's somehow the manager's fault. People going 'I've seen nothing': well, no. You won't. We've won 9 games all season. Under four different managers. None of them has won more than three games in their tenure. We're desperate for direction and stability.

People wondered why he didn't change it at Rotherham. Well, here's your answer. He changed it today because we had to win. He had to gamble. It backfired. But what could he have done? He had to change system and try to find a way of winning. That involved taking the risk of losing. He didn't tell players to stand off, not track runners, to switch off. The players did that. The system didn't work because when we lost Matos we lost all our quality in the middle. We lost the screen. But senior players didn't assume any leadership and head dropped because we've been underwhelming all season, confidence is at rock bottom, things are always going against us and never for us. We'd lost the game as soon as Ward hit the post. 'Here we go again' - that was writ large on every player's body language.

The only circumstances in which I'd change manager, underwhelming as Breitenreiter has been thus far, is if he does not intend to remain next season. He's inherited a shitshow. Someone needs to be given time and money to turn it round properly and Breitenreiter's record tells us that he does exactly that. He might not be the firefighter we needed. We probably will go down under him. But his responsibility is minimal compared to others and we need stability and ideas from a coach, not a director of football.

Worthington got a lift, but by the time he moved aside that lift had gone. He was a short-term appointment who could operate without pressure. He isn't an answer to anything other than who should manage the academy.

[lossiemouthtownfan]

Apr 20, 2024 18:22:47 GMT 1 rockwall said:

We were woeful against Wednesday apart from a 10 minute patch where we put the game to bed.

Apart from a 10 mins spell when Wednesday forgot they were a football team😉

[willo]

Apr 20, 2024 18:15:57 GMT 1 htafcokay said:

Here we fucking go.

Give him the job permanently next season. The fans want him in charge, so give him the job and let's see how good he REALLY is.

I hate to say it but it’s just not worked for the most part with AB and doesn’t look like it will. I don’t think he’ll be here anyway if we are in League 1. He has been tactically really, really poor which coming after Moore is saying something. Coupled with that he lacks any real form of emotion on the touch line (I know as I sit just up from the home dugout) and rarely contests some of the shite decisions against us with the 4th official. I said after Moore we absolutely needed someone with previous Championship experience but we gambled and it isn’t working at all. We all know we’re in for a repeat of today again next Saturday with AB in charge. Worthington at the very least might be able to drill into the players how dire our situation is because AB can’t seem to get any urgency out of them.

[htafcokay]

Apr 20, 2024 18:56:40 GMT 1 willo said:

Apr 20, 2024 18:15:57 GMT 1 htafcokay said:

Here we fucking go.

Give him the job permanently next season. The fans want him in charge, so give him the job and let's see how good he REALLY is.

I hate to say it but it’s just not worked for the most part with AB and doesn’t look like it will. I don’t think he’ll be here anyway if we are in League 1. He has been tactically really, really poor which coming after Moore is saying something. Coupled with that he lacks any real form of emotion on the touch line (I know as I sit just up from the home dugout) and rarely contests some of the shite decisions against us with the 4th official. I said after Moore we absolutely needed someone with previous Championship experience but we gambled and it isn’t working at all. We all know we’re in for a repeat of today again next Saturday with AB in charge. Worthington at the very least might be able to drill into the players how dire our situation is because AB can’t seem to get any urgency out of them.

But willo, look at what he's got to work with! Those players are fucking rubbish. 

We had someone lined up with Championship experience after Moore, but someone knew better....

[alexdire]

If there is a relegation break in his contract. Or there's a chance he will walk, which I think he will.

There's no point sacking him and having to pay him out.

[Terriersmad]

Apr 20, 2024 18:56:40 GMT 1 willo said:

Apr 20, 2024 18:15:57 GMT 1 htafcokay said:

Here we fucking go.

Give him the job permanently next season. The fans want him in charge, so give him the job and let's see how good he REALLY is.

I hate to say it but it’s just not worked for the most part with AB and doesn’t look like it will. I don’t think he’ll be here anyway if we are in League 1. He has been tactically really, really poor which coming after Moore is saying something. Coupled with that he lacks any real form of emotion on the touch line (I know as I sit just up from the home dugout) and rarely contests some of the shite decisions against us with the 4th official. I said after Moore we absolutely needed someone with previous Championship experience but we gambled and it isn’t working at all. We all know we’re in for a repeat of today again next Saturday with AB in charge. Worthington at the very least might be able to drill into the players how dire our situation is because AB can’t seem to get any urgency out of them.

I'm going to give Napoleon a brigade of starving peasants armed with two muskets. His task is to storm a British fortress manned by professional soldiers who are well-fed, well-drilled, and hold the strategically advantageous position of being atop a hill. Sapping is out of the question, he doesn't have sappers, and even if he did he doesn't have resources for a protracted seige to allow undermining the walls.

Is Napoleon tactically poor if he fails under those conditions? Because that's what we're effectively saying here.

[alexdire]

Apr 20, 2024 18:19:49 GMT 1 Farsley Terrier (UK product) said:

I would. Nothing to lose.

A lot of money paying AB off. When he might walk.

[Floyds]

Apr 20, 2024 19:03:32 GMT 1 Terriersmad said:

Apr 20, 2024 18:56:40 GMT 1 willo said:

I hate to say it but it’s just not worked for the most part with AB and doesn’t look like it will. I don’t think he’ll be here anyway if we are in League 1. He has been tactically really, really poor which coming after Moore is saying something. Coupled with that he lacks any real form of emotion on the touch line (I know as I sit just up from the home dugout) and rarely contests some of the shite decisions against us with the 4th official. I said after Moore we absolutely needed someone with previous Championship experience but we gambled and it isn’t working at all. We all know we’re in for a repeat of today again next Saturday with AB in charge. Worthington at the very least might be able to drill into the players how dire our situation is because AB can’t seem to get any urgency out of them.

I'm going to give Napoleon a brigade of starving peasants armed with two muskets. His task is to storm a British fortress manned by professional soldiers who are well-fed, well-drilled, and hold the strategically advantageous position of being atop a hill. Sapping is out of the question, he doesn't have sappers, and even if he did he doesn't have resources for a protracted seige to allow undermining the walls.

Is Napoleon tactically poor if he fails under those conditions? Because that's what we're effectively saying here.

AB would take the peasants, face them in the wrong direction, have them fight amongst themselves and march five miles from where the hill was. He’d probably get the peasants wives to have a go and leave the men folk at home.

A half decent manager would at least get the peasants to have a go, run up the hill, put a fight up.

Useless that lad 😂

[Terriersmad]

Apr 20, 2024 19:08:24 GMT 1 Floyds said:

Apr 20, 2024 19:03:32 GMT 1 Terriersmad said:

I'm going to give Napoleon a brigade of starving peasants armed with two muskets. His task is to storm a British fortress manned by professional soldiers who are well-fed, well-drilled, and hold the strategically advantageous position of being atop a hill. Sapping is out of the question, he doesn't have sappers, and even if he did he doesn't have resources for a protracted seige to allow undermining the walls.

Is Napoleon tactically poor if he fails under those conditions? Because that's what we're effectively saying here.

AB would take the peasants, face them in the wrong direction, have them fight amongst themselves and march five miles from where the hill was. He’d probably get the peasants wives to have a go and leave the men folk at home.

A half decent manager would at least get the peasants to have a go, run up the hill, put a fight up.

Useless that lad 😂

A few of them survive then. Result!

[Floyds]

Apr 20, 2024 19:09:22 GMT 1 Terriersmad said:

Apr 20, 2024 19:08:24 GMT 1 Floyds said:

AB would take the peasants, face them in the wrong direction, have them fight amongst themselves and march five miles from where the hill was. He’d probably get the peasants wives to have a go and leave the men folk at home.

A half decent manager would at least get the peasants to have a go, run up the hill, put a fight up.

Useless that lad 😂

A few of them survive then. Result!

Better than all fucking off aimlessly in the wrong direction and dying of malnutrition!😂

[willo]

Apr 20, 2024 18:57:44 GMT 1 htafcokay said:

Apr 20, 2024 18:56:40 GMT 1 willo said:

I hate to say it but it’s just not worked for the most part with AB and doesn’t look like it will. I don’t think he’ll be here anyway if we are in League 1. He has been tactically really, really poor which coming after Moore is saying something. Coupled with that he lacks any real form of emotion on the touch line (I know as I sit just up from the home dugout) and rarely contests some of the shite decisions against us with the 4th official. I said after Moore we absolutely needed someone with previous Championship experience but we gambled and it isn’t working at all. We all know we’re in for a repeat of today again next Saturday with AB in charge. Worthington at the very least might be able to drill into the players how dire our situation is because AB can’t seem to get any urgency out of them.

But willo, look at what he's got to work with! Those players are fucking rubbish. 

We had someone lined up with Championship experience after Moore, but someone knew better....

I get your point mate but he lost me today and I don’t think there’s any coming back from here for me. How come Warnock was getting a tune (of sorts) out of the same bunch last season and for some of this season? I do think we have too many of a League 1 standard though. Don’t suppose you’re at liberty to divulge who the someone with Championship experience was?