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Post by theravymoomin on Apr 27, 2024 18:28:02 GMT 1
I see your point, but personally still think helik Why? Top scorer from centre half, yes we have shipped a lot of goals, I don’t think hes been as solid as last year, but who has been? I see your point with Sorba, but still think helik
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Post by richhtfc on Apr 27, 2024 18:30:28 GMT 1
Which players do we reckon Andre is referring to? When he talks about players not caring and leaving early, as usual.... Sorba, Wiles, Edwards? I think he meant Burgzorg. He also alluded that he should have “suspended” players earlier by which I think he meant dropped, which had to be a reference to Burgzorg
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Post by impact on Apr 27, 2024 18:31:50 GMT 1
Top scorer from centre half, yes we have shipped a lot of goals, I don’t think hes been as solid as last year, but who has been? I see your point with Sorba, but still think helik He's a defender. His main job is to prevent goals and we've conceded the 2nd most in the league. Yes he's been great from attacking set pieces. That doesnt detract from the other end where the whole unit has been awful.
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Post by Mounie for nothing on Apr 27, 2024 18:35:54 GMT 1
Top scorer from centre half, yes we have shipped a lot of goals, I don’t think hes been as solid as last year, but who has been? I see your point with Sorba, but still think helik He's a defender. His main job is to prevent goals and we've conceded the 2nd most in the league. Yes he's been great from attacking set pieces. That doesnt detract from the other end where the whole unit has been awful. Thomas is an attacker. His main job is to score goals and we have scored the 6th least in the league. As a caveat I appreciate he has created chances but we have noone to finish them. The whole team has been awful, think we all agree on that
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Post by terriersyndrome on Apr 27, 2024 18:36:54 GMT 1
Well deserved relegation. Congratulations to all involved for a disgrace of a season.
Pathetic from top to bottom. They should be ashamed!
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Post by theravymoomin on Apr 27, 2024 18:47:55 GMT 1
Top scorer from centre half, yes we have shipped a lot of goals, I don’t think hes been as solid as last year, but who has been? I see your point with Sorba, but still think helik He's a defender. His main job is to prevent goals and we've conceded the 2nd most in the league. Yes he's been great from attacking set pieces. That doesnt detract from the other end where the whole unit has been awful. Then Sorba as an attacker, should have scored more perhaps? I’m really not nocking Sorba, I’m just saying he’s my 2nd best player this season, which is my opinion,
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Post by drayltonboy (independent) on Apr 27, 2024 18:53:55 GMT 1
You know what kills me the most about today, the final whistle goes and everyone streams out,no anger about it all, no nowt, just rampant apathy. Nowt wrong with apathy. Indifference rules😀
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Post by Waterloo Terrier on Apr 27, 2024 18:55:50 GMT 1
Hope those lads enjoy the game against Ipswich next week because for most of them they’ll never play at a level as high as the Championship again.
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Apr 27, 2024 19:01:40 GMT 1
Another disappointing day, why couldn't we start the game like we played 2nd half? I genuinely hope it's because of confidence.
I guess we will lose Helik, Rudoni, Nakayama, Balker, Healey & Thomas, it just depends if we can move others on.
That being said, I don't know why so many are fearing teams in the 3rd division. We already have players who are League 1 standard, if we buy 3 players who are top end League 1 with the money from those gone, I'd fully expect us to be challenging for promotion. I know we have struggled whenever we've gone down to Div 3 before but we were in complete financial disarray a couple of times then. I reckon, we'll be in top 6 bookies' favorites & rightly so.
I'm really disappointed tonight, I honestly thought we'd win today but the best bit of positivity I can come up with right now is that relegation gives us the chance of us winning the only division title we haven't yet won.
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Post by terrierbite on Apr 27, 2024 19:28:27 GMT 1
Plenty of them gave it a go today but too little too late Turton made a big difference with some great passing and Healey, although massively unfit, does look like a decent player when we get him on the ball Rudoni everywhere again and Helik was trying everything to keep us up. Not sure what was wrong with Spencer. His mind seemed all over the place when he had the ball but showed some great pace a couple of times to make good tackles Don’t think much was wrong with Spencer but he looked every bit a right back playing on the left ,to make it worse how own team mates played it to his left side which made him have to turn to get it on his right foot .
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Post by tottz on Apr 27, 2024 19:56:11 GMT 1
Apologies if this has been started elsewhere, but who are the players Breitenreiter was talking about in today’s press conference and who was the ‘leak’ last week?
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Post by goodbet on Apr 27, 2024 20:02:52 GMT 1
I’d get rid of Sorba. He’ll probably want to leave anyway, but I certainly wouldn’t stand in this way. There are better all round players and we can’t afford this type of luxury player that can only cross a ball. 2 players have created more chances in a season in championship history. Two. We've chosen a central defender in the 2nd worst defence in the league as POTS over the guy who has made the 3rd most chances in championship history. Statements like this is why we're in this mess. We'd rather have players who run like headless chickens than anyone with any real quality. I agree that a lot of fans want players run like headless chickens, but the club appear to like cheap alternatives that are old, ex-town, injured or injury prone.
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Post by impact on Apr 27, 2024 20:08:14 GMT 1
He's a defender. His main job is to prevent goals and we've conceded the 2nd most in the league. Yes he's been great from attacking set pieces. That doesnt detract from the other end where the whole unit has been awful. Then Sorba as an attacker, should have scored more perhaps? I’m really not nocking Sorba, I’m just saying he’s my 2nd best player this season, which is my opinion, He's created the most chances in the entire league for a 23rd placed team. He's the reason Helik (and others) have scored so many.
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Post by rougeboy31 on Apr 27, 2024 20:11:39 GMT 1
2 players have created more chances in a season in championship history. Two. We've chosen a central defender in the 2nd worst defence in the league as POTS over the guy who has made the 3rd most chances in championship history. Statements like this is why we're in this mess. We'd rather have players who run like headless chickens than anyone with any real quality. I agree that a lot of fans want players run like headless chickens, but the club appear to like cheap alternatives that are old, ex-town, injured or injury prone. I still have no idea how this chances created thing is worked out. Today he took about 6 corners and made the same amount of crosses and not a single got close to being useful. Are they counted as chances created
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Post by jimmynich on Apr 27, 2024 20:28:05 GMT 1
I agree that a lot of fans want players run like headless chickens, but the club appear to like cheap alternatives that are old, ex-town, injured or injury prone. I still have no idea how this chances created thing is worked out. Today he took about 6 corners and made the same amount of crosses and not a single got close to being useful. Are they counted as chances created I think he was sulking today because he'd been dropped. He's undoubtedly talented but seldom tracks back soft in the tackle and seems more interested in his ridiculous hair style and image with non existent shin pads....he can fuck off for me as can rest of squad. League table doesn't lie we are shit
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Post by Up the Duff. on Apr 27, 2024 20:29:24 GMT 1
Which players do we reckon Andre is referring to? When he talks about players not caring and leaving early, as usual.... Sorba, Wiles, Edwards? Can't be Koroma, he will be sat on his arse for half an hour before he decides to get moving.
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Post by bluesandtwos on Apr 27, 2024 20:33:32 GMT 1
If it hadn't been so crucial, and the result guarantee our relegation, it was a damn good game of football. If that had happened in the middle of the season, even though we didn't win, I think most of us would have come away thinking we had our moneys worth.
When Healey is fit he will be a real handful for defenders, especially in League 1. He has good awareness and positioning and a proper turn of speed over short distances.
We will lose our out of contract and loan players and of those, other than Hogg who I think needs replacing now, only Matos has been a real asset this season. With some decent replacements this summer, and a proper pre-season (I hope Andre stays), it could be a very enjoyable season.
Given how awful watching Town has been over the last few years, exception being the playoff year, I am really hoping next season gets us back to enjoyable football.
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Post by deepc on Apr 27, 2024 20:51:11 GMT 1
Thank god that’s all over. It’s felt like death by a thousand cuts. AB came in , won at Watford ,should have beaten Leeds and then it all goes to to rat shit. He then turns into DM mark two. Walking out of Rovrum I knew we were done for.To set up in such a negative way against a team that had lost their last nine games was unforgivable. The manager is now slagging the players off ,no doubt the players will be doing the same. A total clear out of players,management and backroom staff is called for .I am told that only Hogg ,Nakaiyama and Diarra are out of contract . If this is correct we are stuffed.Who in their right minds will take on this bunch of weak minded failures. Brodie Spencer is the only exception He started with two strikers today,great,but with no one to supply them.we had a 15 minute spell when we went at them and then nothing. One shot leading to a goal and a smothered effort from Helik was a sum total on target. Simply not good enough as it has been all season . Have we seen any improvement since AB came in. I think not. He should be dispensed with by next Saturday. I’ve been feeding this addiction of mine since December 1963 so I am no stranger to relegation. The difference this time from most of the others ,with a couple of horrendous exceptions, it was so predictable from weeks out. It is all not bad news.I think I have five new grounds to visit next year 😀 UTT
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Post by space hardware on Apr 27, 2024 21:04:54 GMT 1
Another disappointing day, why couldn't we start the game like we played 2nd half? I genuinely hope it's because of confidence. I guess we will lose Helik, Rudoni, Nakayama, Balker, Healey & Thomas, it just depends if we can move others on. That being said, I don't know why so many are fearing teams in the 3rd division. We already have players who are League 1 standard, if we buy 3 players who are top end League 1 with the money from those gone, I'd fully expect us to be challenging for promotion. I know we have struggled whenever we've gone down to Div 3 before but we were in complete financial disarray a couple of times then. I reckon, we'll be in top 6 bookies' favorites & rightly so. I'm really disappointed tonight, I honestly thought we'd win today but the best bit of positivity I can come up with right now is that relegation gives us the chance of us winning the only division title we haven't yet won. UTT Almost all of our players are League One standard (some aren't even that), that's been the big problem since losing the play off final. We've been shopping in the bargain bin for years, it's finally caught up. When you think of how much cash the club has shat down the nearest latrine since the first PL season, it's criminal that it's come to this. Hoyle, Potless, Nagle. They're all culpable, to varying degrees. A disgrace of a situation.
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Post by theravymoomin on Apr 27, 2024 21:14:03 GMT 1
Then Sorba as an attacker, should have scored more perhaps? I’m really not nocking Sorba, I’m just saying he’s my 2nd best player this season, which is my opinion, He's created the most chances in the entire league for a 23rd placed team. He's the reason Helik (and others) have scored so many. As I’ve said like 5 times, I’m not knocking sorba, it’s not like I’m slagging him off calling him shit, merely stated I think Heliks first and Sorba second, it’s my opinion and you have yours, I’m not sure where your going with this? What’s your issue
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Post by Terriersmad on Apr 27, 2024 21:30:53 GMT 1
If it hadn't been so crucial, and the result guarantee our relegation, it was a damn good game of football. If that had happened in the middle of the season, even though we didn't win, I think most of us would have come away thinking we had our moneys worth. When Healey is fit he will be a real handful for defenders, especially in League 1. He has good awareness and positioning and a proper turn of speed over short distances.We will lose our out of contract and loan players and of those, other than Hogg who I think needs replacing now, only Matos has been a real asset this season. With some decent replacements this summer, and a proper pre-season (I hope Andre stays), it could be a very enjoyable season. Given how awful watching Town has been over the last few years, exception being the playoff year, I am really hoping next season gets us back to enjoyable football. This, more than anything, gives me hope. Healey has been remarkably sharp for a player with so little football under his belt. 5 goals this season in just over 7 full matches (including his time at Watford) is a very good record indeed. To get up, you need a goalscorer. I think we've got one in Healey. Possibly two with what I've seen of Radulovic.
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Post by rougeboy31 on Apr 27, 2024 21:34:38 GMT 1
If it hadn't been so crucial, and the result guarantee our relegation, it was a damn good game of football. If that had happened in the middle of the season, even though we didn't win, I think most of us would have come away thinking we had our moneys worth. When Healey is fit he will be a real handful for defenders, especially in League 1. He has good awareness and positioning and a proper turn of speed over short distances.We will lose our out of contract and loan players and of those, other than Hogg who I think needs replacing now, only Matos has been a real asset this season. With some decent replacements this summer, and a proper pre-season (I hope Andre stays), it could be a very enjoyable season. Given how awful watching Town has been over the last few years, exception being the playoff year, I am really hoping next season gets us back to enjoyable football. This, more than anything, gives me hope. Healey has been remarkably sharp for a player with so little football under his belt. 5 goals this season in just over 7 full matches (including his time at Watford) is a very good record indeed. To get up, you need a goalscorer. I think we've got one in Healey. Possibly two with what I've seen of Radulovic. it’s about using them properly as well though, and helping them all out more. Some proper wingers and a good playmaker would help massively
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Post by Terriersmad on Apr 27, 2024 21:38:36 GMT 1
This, more than anything, gives me hope. Healey has been remarkably sharp for a player with so little football under his belt. 5 goals this season in just over 7 full matches (including his time at Watford) is a very good record indeed. To get up, you need a goalscorer. I think we've got one in Healey. Possibly two with what I've seen of Radulovic. it’s about using them properly as well though, and helping them all out more. Some proper wingers and a good playmaker would help massively They absolutely would, 100%. Easier for them to click when they have someone they know will score goals up top though. How many teams fall short because they don't have that? Just think back - last time we came up we had a side that misfired for most of the season, played within itself, and was a slog. We got up because we had a goalscorer.
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Post by rougeboy31 on Apr 27, 2024 21:40:35 GMT 1
it’s about using them properly as well though, and helping them all out more. Some proper wingers and a good playmaker would help massively They absolutely would, 100%. Easier for them to click when they have someone they know will score goals up top though. How many teams fall short because they don't have that? Just think back - last time we came up we had a side that misfired for most of the season, played within itself, and was a slog. We got up because we had a goalscorer. that team was much more likeable as well. The loan signing of beckford was one of the best strikers I’ve seen at town.
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Post by fredcarno1 on Apr 27, 2024 21:59:52 GMT 1
I think our season was summed up when Kasumu put 10 yard pass out of play under no pressure whatsoever. How have we amassed so many “footballers” that can’t play football. Absolutely ridiculous. Must be 15 or 16 in the squad who can’t trap or pass a ball. It’s amazing that they’ve ever been given the opportunity to play Championship football. Most of this lot will struggle in League One. Kasumu is indicative of why we are heading for League 1, lad is a lower league clogger with very little ability. Passing, heading and shooting all League 1 (at best)standard. A 10 yard pass under no pressure 5 yards off target, it’s laughable tbh. Yet you’ve got people at the club on large salaries signing all pissing up each others backs over these kind of signings.
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Post by Wingman on Apr 27, 2024 22:11:17 GMT 1
Who in their right minds will take on this bunch of weak minded failures. UTT Football agents have a nice habit of making a one legged donkey look like a Grand National winner. Add on YouTube showreels and hey presto, ‘You’ve got your move Son!’
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Post by rougeboy31 on Apr 27, 2024 22:14:25 GMT 1
I think our season was summed up when Kasumu put 10 yard pass out of play under no pressure whatsoever. How have we amassed so many “footballers” that can’t play football. Absolutely ridiculous. Must be 15 or 16 in the squad who can’t trap or pass a ball. It’s amazing that they’ve ever been given the opportunity to play Championship football. Most of this lot will struggle in League One. Kasumu is indicative of why we are heading for League 1, lad is a lower league clogger with very little ability. Passing, heading and shooting all League 1 (at best)standard. A 10 yard pass under no pressure 5 yards off target, it’s laughable tbh. Yet you’ve got people at the club on large salaries signing all pissing up each others backs over these kind of signings. I like kasumu in general but the worst bit about this is that he’s one of the only players who tried the whole game today.
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Post by bogart on Apr 27, 2024 22:15:35 GMT 1
How do we expect to get anywhere conceding 42 goals in only 11 games. Oh and petulant Thomas lots seem to forget he could not wait to jump ship to Blackburn.
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Post by alfredsterrier on Apr 27, 2024 22:19:38 GMT 1
I agree that a lot of fans want players run like headless chickens, but the club appear to like cheap alternatives that are old, ex-town, injured or injury prone. I still have no idea how this chances created thing is worked out. Today he took about 6 corners and made the same amount of crosses and not a single got close to being useful. Are they counted as chances created I agree. I have no idea how this stat is created. Sorba lumping the ball into the box is not chance creation. He rarely picks out a man. He sends corners well over everyone more often than he should. His first 3 touches were passes to the opposition. If he was doing that well then Wales would have picked him. If he was that good then Blackburn would have played him when he was on loan but I’m pretty sure he spent more time on the bench.
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Post by oneneilwarnock on Apr 27, 2024 22:21:46 GMT 1
I still have no idea how this chances created thing is worked out. Today he took about 6 corners and made the same amount of crosses and not a single got close to being useful. Are they counted as chances created I agree. I have no idea how this stat is created. Sorba lumping the ball into the box is not chance creation. He rarely picks out a man. He sends corners well over everyone more often than he should. His first 3 touches were passes to the opposition. If he was doing that well then Wales would have picked him. If he was that good then Blackburn would have played him when he was on loan but I’m pretty sure he spent more time on the bench. Bingo he’s absolutely bang average with a stinking attitude. First out the door please.
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