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Post by richhtfc on Apr 28, 2024 13:05:42 GMT 1
So 99% of clubs are wrong and the 1% is right? It’s a nice thought but in reality it’s us that are the anomaly. It isn’t 99% of clubs. You can buy an adult season ticket at Bayern and Dortmund for £160 and £250 respectively. It’s England where everyone is ok having their pants pulled down. They’re both enormous clubs with huge revenues from all sorts of additional streams, and they’re in a system that caps pricing. Saying we should keep prices low out of principal is cutting off our nose to spite our face and not the same as campaigning for reform of ticket pricing (which I’d agree with). |
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Apr 28, 2024 13:15:35 GMT 1
It isn’t 99% of clubs. You can buy an adult season ticket at Bayern and Dortmund for £160 and £250 respectively. It’s England where everyone is ok having their pants pulled down. They’re both enormous clubs with huge revenues from all sorts of additional streams, and they’re in a system that caps pricing. Saying we should keep prices low out of principal is cutting off our nose to spite our face and not the same as campaigning for reform of ticket pricing (which I’d agree with). We will go round in circles mate. Granada, not a huge club, not part of the Bundesliga price cap, €175. My point is only that English football is overpriced for the majority. I don’t agree that we are too cheap. We aren’t. We are bang on price wise. The extra £600-£800k for an increase (affecting 7000 to 10,000 people) is likely half of Danny Wards yearly salary. The system is wrong. We shouldn’t change. In my opinion. |
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Post by richhtfc on Apr 28, 2024 13:23:31 GMT 1
They’re both enormous clubs with huge revenues from all sorts of additional streams, and they’re in a system that caps pricing. Saying we should keep prices low out of principal is cutting off our nose to spite our face and not the same as campaigning for reform of ticket pricing (which I’d agree with). We will go round in circles mate. Granada, not a huge club, not part of the Bundesliga price cap, €175. My point is only that English football is overpriced for the majority. I don’t agree that we are too cheap. We aren’t. We are bang on price wise. The extra £600-£800k for an increase (affecting 7000 to 10,000 people) is likely half of Danny Wards yearly salary. The system is wrong. We shouldn’t change. In my opinion. I do agree with your point, I just don’t think it’s applicable to our current situation in the league system we’re in. As I said before if KN agrees, fine with me. |
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Post by shawsie on Apr 28, 2024 13:31:55 GMT 1
They’re both enormous clubs with huge revenues from all sorts of additional streams, and they’re in a system that caps pricing. Saying we should keep prices low out of principal is cutting off our nose to spite our face and not the same as campaigning for reform of ticket pricing (which I’d agree with). We will go round in circles mate. Granada, not a huge club, not part of the Bundesliga price cap, €175. My point is only that English football is overpriced for the majority. I don’t agree that we are too cheap. We aren’t. We are bang on price wise. The extra £600-£800k for an increase (affecting 7000 to 10,000 people) is likely half of Danny Wards yearly salary. The system is wrong. We shouldn’t change. In my opinion. Its a dilemma - the game is overpriced in general but you cant change it unilaterally unless owned by a state entity. The champ clubs accounts render the cumulative business models unfit for purpose ...... unless you return to the prem. And even if you do its a bugger competing for years - the big boys cherry pick the up and coming and eventually you run out of steam and get relegated. |
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Post by Polish Hippy on Apr 28, 2024 13:41:59 GMT 1
If prices increase by 20% but we lose 20% of current season ticket holders then we don’t increase revenue. If mothers and fathers stop going to games we lose their kids too which impacts on future support. It is the stated aim of the club not only to restructure pricing according to where we sit but also to raise the prices to the Championship average over the next five years. Dean Hoyle went against the trend when he lowered prices in order to attract bigger crowds. The current board seem intent on making us just like every other club in hiking up prices. I’m not against a small increase, we do have to be realistic, but any increase has to reflect the terrible product we’ve been served up over the past two seasons and take into account that an excessive increase following relegation will drive more people away which could then in turn be very difficult to win back.
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Post by shawsie on Apr 28, 2024 13:57:56 GMT 1
If prices increase by 20% but we lose 20% of current season ticket holders then we don’t increase revenue. If mothers and fathers stop going to games we lose their kids too which impacts on future support. It is the stated aim of the club not only to restructure pricing according to where we sit but also to raise the prices to the Championship average over the next five years. Dean Hoyle went against the trend when he lowered prices in order to attract bigger crowds. The current board seem intent on making us just like every other club in hiking up prices. I’m not against a small increase, we do have to be realistic, but any increase has to reflect the terrible product we’ve been served up over the past two seasons and take into account that an excessive increase following relegation will drive more people away which could then in turn be very difficult to win back. Winning football brings em back..... The dilemma is you need really good players to win consistently. At champshp level we dont have enough to compete....big dilemma as good players arent cheap. |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Apr 28, 2024 14:21:28 GMT 1
I think it’s crazy that we think our tickets should be cheaper than everyone else’s, but we still expect the club to out perform the competition. Prices should be relatively where they should be for a club of our size and ambition. Who in League One will shift more expensive season tickets than we do at cheaper prices? If Shrewsbury and Northampton sell 4000 season tickets at 450 quid a go and we sell 12000 at say 280 a go who's generating more money to lavish on the playing budget? There is no need to be hugely increasing season ticket prices to compete in League One. I would agree they probably needed to go up if we had remained in The Championship. |
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Post by richhtfc on Apr 28, 2024 14:27:16 GMT 1
I think it’s crazy that we think our tickets should be cheaper than everyone else’s, but we still expect the club to out perform the competition. Prices should be relatively where they should be for a club of our size and ambition. Who in League One will shift more expensive season tickets than we do at cheaper prices? If Shrewsbury and Northampton sell 4000 season tickets at 450 quid a go and we sell 12000 at say 280 a go who's generating more money to lavish on the playing budget? There is no need to be hugely increasing season ticket prices to compete in League One. I would agree they probably needed to go up if we had remained in The Championship. I make that point further down the thread |
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