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Post by twyford on May 7, 2024 15:25:31 GMT 1
This! The Shield wants binning as well. All these pics of the team badges in league one next season and I have to squint to make ours out. Only if you know your club badges do you know whose is whose badge a lot of the time, many are pretty similar shied/heraldry/coat of arms, its often only the small details that distinguish them. Which is why the introduction of the terrier surely? - most of the easily identified clubs have a straight forward symbol. Arsenal's canon, Spurs' cockerel, Brighton's seagull, Wolverhampton's wolf head, Derby's ram, Norwich's canary, Forest's tree etc. It's debatable whether the version chosen is the best one it could have been but I understand the rationale for going down this route. I personally like it and have a couple of polo shirts with it, showing discreet support for my club* without the complication of the shield or the in your face sponsor's name on replica shirts. *or possibly trying to be incognito given the season we've just been through  |
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Post by kennyoldirons on May 7, 2024 21:13:21 GMT 1
Only if you know your club badges do you know whose is whose badge a lot of the time, many are pretty similar shied/heraldry/coat of arms, its often only the small details that distinguish them. Which is why the introduction of the terrier surely? - most of the easily identified clubs have a straight forward symbol. Arsenal's canon, Spurs' cockerel, Brighton's seagull, Wolverhampton's wolf head, Derby's ram, Norwich's canary, Forest's tree etc. It's debatable whether the version chosen is the best one it could have been but I understand the rationale for going down this route. I personally like it and have a couple of polo shirts with it, showing discreet support for my club* without the complication of the shield or the in your face sponsor's name on replica shirts. *or possibly trying to be incognito given the season we've just been through As you acknowledge, it’s more than debatable if the current Terrier version is the best one. Personally, I think it’s plain awful. The previous discreet Terrier only symbol was absolutely fine and much better and achieved the discrete look you mention just fine on polo tops, hats and other merch. They should have used that as the Terrier only logo on the shirts when they went with the falling apart stick on badge and the awful new Terrier. I simply will not buy anything with that God awful turbo dog on it and know many others who are the same. The club shot themselves in the foot by enforcing it and not doing any form of consolation. The club made reference to ‘the eyes’ being suspect on the proper Terrier, granted they looked silly on the 80s images, but the most recent iteration they got rid of was absolutely fine and should be reinstated immediately! I’m certain they would sell a hell of a lot more merchandise with the proper Terrier on it, probably enough from just me alone! |
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Post by diakhabydaily on May 7, 2024 22:43:18 GMT 1
I like it and I’m not superstitious I’m a little bit stitious. This made me laugh way more than it should. |
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Post by Ox Terrier on May 8, 2024 0:49:18 GMT 1
Which is why the introduction of the terrier surely? - most of the easily identified clubs have a straight forward symbol. Arsenal's canon, Spurs' cockerel, Brighton's seagull, Wolverhampton's wolf head, Derby's ram, Norwich's canary, Forest's tree etc. It's debatable whether the version chosen is the best one it could have been but I understand the rationale for going down this route. I personally like it and have a couple of polo shirts with it, showing discreet support for my club* without the complication of the shield or the in your face sponsor's name on replica shirts. *or possibly trying to be incognito given the season we've just been through As you acknowledge, it’s more than debatable if the current Terrier version is the best one. Personally, I think it’s plain awful. The previous discreet Terrier only symbol was absolutely fine and much better and achieved the discrete look you mention just fine on polo tops, hats and other merch. They should have used that as the Terrier only logo on the shirts when they went with the falling apart stick on badge and the awful new Terrier. I simply will not buy anything with that God awful turbo dog on it and know many others who are the same. The club shot themselves in the foot by enforcing it and not doing any form of consolation. The club made reference to ‘the eyes’ being suspect on the proper Terrier, granted they looked silly on the 80s images, but the most recent iteration they got rid of was absolutely fine and should be reinstated immediately! I’m certain they would sell a hell of a lot more merchandise with the proper Terrier on it, probably enough from just me alone! Opinion is a funny old thing. I much prefer the new Terrier logo and think the old one looks daft. Life would be boring if we all thought and acted the same as one another 🤷♂️ |
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Post by melbourneterrier on May 8, 2024 0:59:37 GMT 1
I much prefer the old badge compared to the new Terrier logo.
When I think of Huddersfield Town, when I think of my club, I definately associate the badge more than the Terrier logo.
Perhaps that's a time thing, I've known the badge ALOT longer, possibly the terriers logo will grow on me over time - but currently, I much prefer the badge.
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Post by HalifaxTerrier on May 8, 2024 9:39:04 GMT 1
Been wanting Town to update the badge for about 25 years now, the current version introduced by Hoyle in 2019 is absolutely s**te!
In terms of the shield, well it just isn't necessary. I'm guessing it's main benefit is that it's easier and cheaper to put onto the shirts and clothing, so, I'd say why not just use it for that then? All other communications, such as online and media, could quite easily use a version without the shield on. Simple, and the best of both worlds for the club.
Even introducing a new logo doesn't mean you have to completely kill off the old one. You'd still own that image and the club can do a retro line in the club shop etc, although I'd still want to tidy it up and make it look decent.
From meetings with the club I know Nagle was very cautious about taking over and immediately changing things like the badge, but hopefully it's something that is on his agenda. PLEASE KEVIN, I'LL DO IT FOR FREE!
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Post by htafcokay on May 8, 2024 9:40:34 GMT 1
Been wanting Town to update the  for about 25 years now, the current version introduced by Hoyle in 2019 is absolutely s**te! In terms of the shield, well it just isn't necessary. I'm guessing it's main benefit is that it's easier and cheaper to put onto the shirts and clothing, so, I'd say why not just use it for that then? All other communications, such as online and media, could quite easily use a version without the shield on. Simple, and the best of both worlds for the club. Even introducing a new logo doesn't mean you have to completely kill off the old one. You'd still own that image and the club can do a retro line in the club shop etc, although I'd still want to tidy it up and make it look decent. From meetings with the club I know Nagle was very cautious about taking over and immediately changing things like the , but hopefully it's something that is on his agenda. PLEASE KEVIN, I'LL DO IT FOR FREE!Hodgkinson. |
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Post by HalifaxTerrier on May 8, 2024 9:42:12 GMT 1
Been wanting Town to update the badge for about 25 years now, the current version introduced by Hoyle in 2019 is absolutely s**te! In terms of the shield, well it just isn't necessary. I'm guessing it's main benefit is that it's easier and cheaper to put onto the shirts and clothing, so, I'd say why not just use it for that then? All other communications, such as online and media, could quite easily use a version without the shield on. Simple, and the best of both worlds for the club. Even introducing a new logo doesn't mean you have to completely kill off the old one. You'd still own that image and the club can do a retro line in the club shop etc, although I'd still want to tidy it up and make it look decent. From meetings with the club I know Nagle was very cautious about taking over and immediately changing things like the badge, but hopefully it's something that is on his agenda. PLEASE KEVIN, I'LL DO IT FOR FREE!Hodgkinson. Definitely Hoyle - Link
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Post by ben1987 on May 8, 2024 9:50:08 GMT 1
Been wanting Town to update the badge for about 25 years now, the current version introduced by Hoyle in 2019 is absolutely s**te! In terms of the shield, well it just isn't necessary. I'm guessing its main benefit is that it's easier and cheaper to put onto the shirts and clothing, so, I'd say why not just use it for that then? All other communications, such as online and media, could quite easily use a version without the shield on. Simple, and the best of both worlds for the club. Even introducing a new logo doesn't mean you have to completely kill off the old one. You'd still own that image and the club can do a retro line in the club shop etc, although I'd still want to tidy it up and make it look decent. From meetings with the club I know Nagle was very cautious about taking over and immediately changing things like the badge, but hopefully it's something that is on his agenda. PLEASE KEVIN, I'LL DO IT FOR FREE!Will you do it for a free air fryer though? |
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Post by htafcokay on May 8, 2024 9:51:05 GMT 1
Definitely Hoyle - Link
Even on the official site link above the 1970s version looks better than the current one! How embarrassing is that? Hodgkinson was lying at his initial Q&A then when he took the credit for it. |
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Post by impact on May 8, 2024 12:25:29 GMT 1
Should get a new modern . Something for the digital age, that brings our heritage with it. I like the dog, but think they ruined the original badge with it. Should just have gone for something totally new There’s no need, HalifaxTerrier remastered the and put it on here. It’s class and the club should have rung him up immediately and sent him a briefcase of money. Instead we had a 17 year old poke about with it on Microsoft paint. There’s no need for a debate or discussion on the matter, just ring Johnny up, Kevin. Now. Here for anyone interested |
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Post by Sio on May 8, 2024 12:28:50 GMT 1
My understanding is that the club don't want to tamper with anything in the short-term (~3 years) because it would look like new American owners coming in all guns blazing. A fair theory. But tidying up the standard badge (i.e. Johnny's design above) would avoid any overhauls but make us look far smarter and sleeker. No brainer. Justasmithers Get Kev on the blower. |
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Post by Made In Yorkshire on May 8, 2024 12:38:14 GMT 1
There’s no need, HalifaxTerrier remastered the and put it on here. It’s class and the club should have rung him up immediately and sent him a briefcase of money. Instead we had a 17 year old poke about with it on Microsoft paint. There’s no need for a debate or discussion on the matter, just ring Johnny up, Kevin. Now. Here for anyone interested Afraid I'm not a fan of this badge. I'd prefer something more modern and looking forward to the future, not harking back to the past. |
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Post by DuffMan on May 8, 2024 12:42:01 GMT 1
Here for anyone interested Afraid I'm not a fan of this badge. I'd prefer something more modern and looking forward to the future, not harking back to the past. Agreed and without being disrespectful of Halifax terriers obvious talent. There will be better equipped agencies out there who can come up with something more modern and to a better standard than this. IMO of course, design is very subjective |
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Post by Made In Yorkshire on May 8, 2024 12:47:37 GMT 1
Afraid I'm not a fan of this badge. I'd prefer something more modern and looking forward to the future, not harking back to the past. Agreed and without being disrespectful of Halifax terriers obvious talent. There will be better equipped agencies out there who can come up with something more modern and to a better standard than this. IMO of course, design is very subjective Yes, pay an agency to come up with a selection of new badge designs of various styles. Perhaps then involve the fans with a vote? |
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Post by Sio on May 8, 2024 12:51:29 GMT 1
Afraid I'm not a fan of this badge. I'd prefer something more modern and looking forward to the future, not harking back to the past. Agreed and without being disrespectful of Halifax terriers obvious talent. There will be better equipped agencies out there who can come up with something more modern and to a better standard than this. IMO of course, design is very subjective It's literally his job so he's very equipped but fair enough on the subjective thoughts re the design! |
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Post by DuffMan on May 8, 2024 12:54:33 GMT 1
Agreed and without being disrespectful of Halifax terriers obvious talent. There will be better equipped agencies out there who can come up with something more modern and to a better standard than this. IMO of course, design is very subjective Yes, pay an agency to come up with a selection of new badge designs of various styles. Perhaps then involve the fans with a vote? possibly, but as I said design is subjective. It isn't as simple as we like this one best because we've always had this and that. It would be better if professionals decided which one, maybe involve people like Halifax terrier and Peter O'Toole who have the skillset and the perspective of the fans. |
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Post by DuffMan on May 8, 2024 12:57:28 GMT 1
Agreed and without being disrespectful of Halifax terriers obvious talent. There will be better equipped agencies out there who can come up with something more modern and to a better standard than this. IMO of course, design is very subjective It's literally his job so he's very equipped but fair enough on the subjective thoughts re the design! Not questioning his skillset and maybe the club can get him involved but there are always better designers our there and they are like footballers usually the highest paid. I would like to see fans like halifax involved but not here's my effort on the forum and it becomes the club badge |
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Post by workshyfop on May 8, 2024 13:00:09 GMT 1
As long as it’s got Castle Hill and the white rose on, the flowery stuff, the three stars and terrier can fuck off for me. Not a big dog fan, especially not small yapping ones! The only time I was slightly onboard was when Wagner talked about “Terrier spirit”, it not being the size of the dog but the fight in it. But that soon gave way to “ooh, we’re just a shitty little dog, we can’t compete with these big pedigree Rottweilers!” The badge is currently a right mess and needs cleaning up at the very least.
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Post by incognito on May 8, 2024 13:13:57 GMT 1
HalifaxTerrier - Would you mind sharing a larger version of the one in your avatar? The aspect ratio looks spot on (to my eyes, at least).
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Post by colnevalleyblue on May 8, 2024 13:22:41 GMT 1
Agreed and without being disrespectful of Halifax terriers obvious talent. There will be better equipped agencies out there who can come up with something more modern and to a better standard than this. IMO of course, design is very subjective Yes, pay an agency to come up with a selection of new badge designs of various styles. Perhaps then involve the fans with a vote? Been done before everyone wanted the old badge back. Circa 2001. Town fans/English people love tradition (on the whole). |
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Post by Sio on May 8, 2024 13:31:32 GMT 1
Yes, pay an agency to come up with a selection of new badge designs of various styles. Perhaps then involve the fans with a vote? Been done before everyone wanted the old badge back. Circa 2001. Town fans/English people love tradition (on the whole). Ironically that circular badge was about 20 years ahead of its time |
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Post by workshyfop on May 8, 2024 13:54:48 GMT 1
Yes, pay an agency to come up with a selection of new badge designs of various styles. Perhaps then involve the fans with a vote? Been done before everyone wanted the old badge back. Circa 2001. Town fans/English people love tradition (on the whole). The isn’t really traditional though. If I remember correctly, it was a design competition won by a student (not from the area) at the Poly in the 70s! If we’re celebrating the centenary and want to be traditional, we should get the town’s and white rose. |
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Post by HalifaxTerrier on May 8, 2024 15:39:57 GMT 1
The design that is shown above from 2021 was merely a suggestion to update the current logo, so think of it more as a brand refresh rather than a 'new' logo. For me, this is something I'd do immediately, take it back to be more in line with the 1970's original version but just update it to todays standards. The last design I did and spoke to the club about was this one:  So nothing new, just tidying up the design and making it more clear. |
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Post by HalifaxTerrier on May 8, 2024 15:41:00 GMT 1
If we're going for something new, then my ideal would be something along these lines:  Though I know these aren't always to everyones taste, but to me it just works better. |
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Post by DuffMan on May 8, 2024 15:44:21 GMT 1
If we're going for something new, then my ideal would be something along these lines: Though I know these aren't always to everyones taste, but to me it just works better. Like this, a bit cartoony but along the right lines to what we probably need to bring it into this century |
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on May 8, 2024 16:00:01 GMT 1
The design that is shown above from 2021 was merely a suggestion to update the current logo, so think of it more as a brand refresh rather than a 'new' logo. For me, this is something I'd do immediately, take it back to be more in line with the 1970's original version but just update it to todays standards. The last design I did and spoke to the club about was this one: So nothing new, just tidying up the design and making it more clear. A minor point and I’m probably wrong, but shouldn’t the ring on the right be blue rather than white and the bottom of the curtain looking thingy white instead of blue? |
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Post by impact on May 8, 2024 16:01:37 GMT 1
The design that is shown above from 2021 was merely a suggestion to update the current logo, so think of it more as a brand refresh rather than a 'new' logo. For me, this is something I'd do immediately, take it back to be more in line with the 1970's original version but just update it to todays standards. The last design I did and spoke to the club about was this one: So nothing new, just tidying up the design and making it more clear. Out of interest, if you had to put some sort of shield/border around this, how would you do it? Ie what should Town have done? |
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Post by richhtfc on May 8, 2024 16:06:42 GMT 1
If we're going for something new, then my ideal would be something along these lines: Though I know these aren't always to everyones taste, but to me it just works better. Did you try the dog at the bottom and castle hill in the middle? The dog is too prominent to my eyes, I’d try it smaller. Sure you probably already have. I’d also make the font the same size, rather than smaller at the bottom. It’s nice and clean though. I have 15 years of graphic design experience so know how annoying it is when people pick apart considered design btw! |
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Post by Sio on May 8, 2024 16:09:05 GMT 1
The design that is shown above from 2021 was merely a suggestion to update the current logo, so think of it more as a brand refresh rather than a 'new' logo. For me, this is something I'd do immediately, take it back to be more in line with the 1970's original version but just update it to todays standards. The last design I did and spoke to the club about was this one: So nothing new, just tidying up the design and making it more clear. Out of interest, if you had to put some sort of shield/border around this, how would you do it? Ie what should Town have done? I know you didn't ask me but I had this from a previous discussion around the topic. I suspect HalifaxTerrier might have slightly darkened the blue in his latest version so apologies if this isn't accurate.   |
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for about 25 years now, the current version introduced by Hoyle in 2019 is absolutely s**te!
