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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2008 17:37:11 GMT 1
I have said since we signed dickinson that i dont think he's upto much and he proved it today. Absolutely useless both on the floor and in the air and why stan is even talking about a permanent deal is beyond me.
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Post by SN0W on Oct 18, 2008 17:41:25 GMT 1
he was played as lone striker, he had two players on him everytime he got near the ball and every decision went against him.... he was on a hiding to nothing today
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2008 17:42:29 GMT 1
he was played as lone striker, he had two players on him everytime he got near the ball and every decision went against him.... he was on a hiding to nothing today Yes but he should still be able to contribute one good moment in 90minutes and he couldnt even muster that. Compare him with Lambert, he was in a whole different league to dickinson.
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Post by Tez on Oct 18, 2008 17:47:34 GMT 1
He didn't have one of his best games today admitted.
The fact of playing him as a lone striker required runs being made from midfield to SUPPORT...there was none of this.
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Post by Floyds on Oct 18, 2008 17:50:29 GMT 1
we cant play 4-5-1 again at home - just not creating enough (any) chances
hopefully he will play parker and dickinson against yeovil to give their centre backs something to think about
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Post by shawsie on Oct 18, 2008 17:51:24 GMT 1
I have said since we signed dickinson that i dont think he's upto much and he proved it today. Absolutely useless both on the floor and in the air and why stan is even talking about a permanent deal is beyond me. What a load of utter drivel!!!! Try apportioning some of the blame across the team fella - roberts was utterly non-existent, worthington and goodwin hardly ever found a blue shirt and put simply we were very poor today. Dickinson is not the finished article in any way but he has done well in a team still finding its feet and is certainly a better player than this level.
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Post by fredcarno on Oct 18, 2008 17:52:40 GMT 1
I really can see us busting the bank to sign him. It would be a massive mistake IMO, that said he may be a bit better if he didn't play with flippers on. I've never seen such a big lad with as little physical presence, what a load of rubbish Ternent has signed up front. Dickinson = Poor, Parker = Poor and Jones has a Cademarteri-esq goalscoring record. Let's hope the midfield keeps scoring, still never mind Turnips still happy we threw yet another lead away and only had one shot on target.
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Post by terrierpark on Oct 18, 2008 18:02:20 GMT 1
I wouldnt wait for derby to recall him , i would send him back. Not solely because of his very poor showing today, but because the team after playing footy the way it should be played and prospered through this by scoring then just decided to hoof it for this supposed aerial threat of dicko. Were a team whose main goal threat is from midfield and has no prolific strikeforce, so what do we do, we bypass the midfield either deliberately or misplaced passing or losing possession, and for the remaining seventy minutes of the match we never looked like scoring except once with steve jones. It was another poor home performance and as for stan describing us the fans as expecting champagne on beer money i would say two things. First he's spent champagne money for this division and secondly one win from six at home isnt even beer level more like tap water stan. I keep saying it week in week out we need a prolific strike force just were does he think we can get with dicko or boothy before him as a lone striker? Parker could have been one half of a strike partnership but even he does nothing of late when coming on from the bench. When you look at the goals tally for the strikers in our division its an embarrasment. So for me if were not going to go 4 4 2 with two credible strikers we need to play football on the grass not in the clouds and let our midfielders work the shooting positions.
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Post by parmyarmy on Oct 18, 2008 18:10:39 GMT 1
I have said since we signed dickinson that i dont think he's upto much and he proved it today. Absolutely useless both on the floor and in the air and why stan is even talking about a permanent deal is beyond me. ill second that
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Post by fredcarno on Oct 18, 2008 18:11:00 GMT 1
Let's be honest we've absoloutely nothing at all up front or nothing that Turnip is prepared to utilise.
Booth-Injured but relatively little threat Cadermarteri- no goal threat whatsoever Jevons- Injured but he'll never get a run so forget it. Parker- shown absoloutely nothing coming off the bench (cheltenam accepted). Dickinson- powder puff. Jones- give him a chance but his goalscoring record is crap and he'll probably be played out wide.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2008 18:12:36 GMT 1
Had a bad game today, but a complete over reaction to suggest he should be sent back when he's done really well in the last few games
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2008 18:15:07 GMT 1
Surely it wasnt just me ripping my hair out at the way he makes a back for the defender everytime, giving away a clear foul. Why hasnt this been coached out of him yet by Stan or by Stockport last year.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2008 18:19:16 GMT 1
Over reaction. Dicko is unpredictable and has a lot of talent - I think he'll go on in the game and prove to be a very good player. If utilised properly Dicko could bang in 25 goals in this league without breaking sweat.
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Post by monkey on Oct 18, 2008 18:25:57 GMT 1
If we forget our 'large transfer fund' and concentrate on the team we have now.
Who else going to play as the target man in the 4-3-3?
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Post by fredcarno on Oct 18, 2008 18:26:14 GMT 1
If you want players that are capable of scoring 25 in this division you need to look at the likes of Beckford, Mackail-Smith, Maclean. What have they got in common apart from an eye for goal, they use their pace get in defenders faces and work hard. All things Dickinson doesn't do, he's no better than Jevons and Parker IMO. So the result is we're not very good upfront.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2008 18:33:43 GMT 1
They all have partners up front who do the hard work for them and create goalscoring opportunities. Dicko plays up front by himself and has to play 85% of the game with his back to goal. Mackail-Smith and MacLean would not be able to play up front by themselves like Dicko can.
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Post by specialun on Oct 18, 2008 18:48:06 GMT 1
I have said since we signed dickinson that i dont think he's upto much and he proved it today. Absolutely useless both on the floor and in the air and why stan is even talking about a permanent deal is beyond me. What a load of utter drivel!!!! Try apportioning some of the blame across the team fella - roberts was utterly non-existent, worthington and goodwin hardly ever found a blue shirt and put simply we were very poor today. Dickinson is not the finished article in any way but he has done well in a team still finding its feet and is certainly a better player than this level. Agree with you shawsie What on earth do people want from the guy? He's playing as a lone frontman in a 451 formation and received little support at times today (craney was off the pace). He has scored 4 goals in 8 games and made 3 assists - that's good enough for me.He was excellent for the 1st 30 minutes causing all sorts of problems and bringing both wide players into it. We played the ball sharp and early to his feet and he had runners with him. Any balls to his head were angled, or controlled so that he could do something with them. In the 2nd half he was poor, i agree. But 60 yard rockets from the back two are different to angled balls from out wide even if long balls. We did to much of the former and not enough of teh latter. We delayed playing the ball into him and gave him too much in the channels. When we did play it t his feet, support was limited or he had 3/4 around him i.e. we played it to him too late. He got frustrated and tried to do too much and it didn't work. Stan didn't help him by bringing parker on as it set them deeper and forced dickinson o come shorter and resulted in us lookig for his head more. He's not that type of player - all parker contributed to doing was for us to play longer and less to his feet.
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Post by Admin on Oct 18, 2008 18:56:30 GMT 1
Had a bad game today, but a complete over reaction to suggest he should be sent back when he's done really well in the last few games Completely agree paulmat. Anyone who says that obviously didnt go to oldham and swindon where he terrorised the opposition defence and looked by far the best player on the pitch. its saturday, its 5.45 its OOOOOOOOOOVVVVVVVVVERREACTION TIME!!!!!!! We were crap today and no one played well but we still got an undeserved point. Its not end of days stuff..... Hopefully get summat onb tuesday night and we're back on track!
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Post by thrice on Oct 18, 2008 19:04:51 GMT 1
He is no bad player but his faults are evident. Any talk of letting him go early is crazy though. He should be sent to see the wizard to find himself a heart.
Ask yourself if you were a midfielder today would you have bust a gut to gamble that he would win one for you???
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Post by marshterrier on Oct 18, 2008 19:06:53 GMT 1
4 goals in 9 games = 20 gaols a season.
Yes, lets send him back asap.
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Oct 18, 2008 19:33:51 GMT 1
Dicko is a good player and had little service of quality today and no support
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2008 22:14:57 GMT 1
Dicko is a good player and had little service of quality today and no support Seems im in a minority on this then on here. Yet everyone around me were saying saying similar things as me. Everytime he had the ball at his feet he lost it, he walked away when the ball was coming near him in the air or he made a back for the defender to give a foul away. Add to this his laid back lazy arse style and i cant be doing with him to be honest.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2008 22:17:04 GMT 1
dickinson was sh!t today but he has been playing well - its just a shame for the majority of fans that his good showings have been away from home....that goes for the whole team really
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Post by Captainslapper on Oct 19, 2008 1:19:17 GMT 1
dickinson was sh!t today but he has been playing well - its just a shame for the majority of fans that his good showings have been away from home....that goes for the whole team really Id agree with all that. Looked disinterested today again like he did when he first arrived. Whinging to the ref, falling over trying to win free kicks instead of putting in some strong hold up play, not jumping for headers at all, and not making runs or closing them down, touch of an elephant. Very poor-our worst player on the day IMO. But I think sending him back is a ludicrous suggestion after his recent performances and taking into account our lack of other options. But if it came to it I certainly wouldn't pay anything like derby did for him.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Oct 19, 2008 8:12:09 GMT 1
he played well at swindon but was terrible today, like people say he cant head or hold it up at all and he always backs into people, cant be any worse on tuesday !!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2008 9:26:55 GMT 1
He`s utter gash,nothing more needs to said.
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Post by dxterrier on Oct 19, 2008 12:09:01 GMT 1
He was poor today(who wasn't), but u gotta admit he has done a job since he has been here. However i doubt we are going to sign him permanant and with boothy out long term(possibly even for good) then the strike force needs sorting. We have a young lad on the books who is drawing comparisons to crouch, Tom Denton I say the only way to get him match fit is simply throw him in, even if its just 10-20 mins from the bench
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Post by shawsie on Oct 19, 2008 12:26:17 GMT 1
He`s utter gash,nothing more needs to said. If it were possible to give negatives for crap postings you would be at buzz lightyear scores - infinity and beyond!! 4 goals in 9 games - by my reckoning that equates to 20 a season on same ratio. If that is gash then get us another one!!! Strikers are judged on goals and whilst he is raw and lacks quality in a few areas he does deliver goals as he showed at stockport last season. What the hell do people want? Who in this league is any better? Mackail-smith / Maclean at Posh? Imagine the furore on here if we signed players from non-league!!! Lack of ambition / boo / boo / moan bloody moan. As supporters we get the team we deserve at times - ours was crap yesterday but was marginally better than the fans whose lack of support was nothing short of embarassing!
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Post by Captainslapper on Oct 19, 2008 15:56:57 GMT 1
We signed denton from non league and i don't remember anyone booing. If ST signed quality players ,with hunger and desire I don't think anyone would give a stuff where they came from.
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Post by marshian on Oct 19, 2008 16:21:31 GMT 1
ie Darren Bullock no way would we care where they came from!!!
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