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Post by pozza on Feb 26, 2009 19:48:46 GMT 1
Evening All, Been a bit of discusion on the Cowshed Loyal forum as where we'd be best tyring to encourage people to move to next season so we can all group together like in the South Stand. We had a bit of a vote & it came down to 2 area's. The current "singing section" or, the FM Lower behind the goals. Arguments for both area's have been put forward, so were just trying to gauge more views from a wider audience (hence asking on here) Singing section is already quite populated, which in a way is a good thing. However, it also means that next season they might not be many spare seats available for people to move to in that area, and we may be spilt up around people that like the view from thier seat, but aint that bothered about singing all time. I know when we've moved into the South Stand that area is still quite populated. FM Lower would be very easy to get a full block of seats together, but has the problem of being quite "open" to the elements at times. However in that area you could potential have everyone who wants to sing/stand etc so you wouldn't have anyone complaining. It would also be easier to have flags waving (when we get some made up  ) as everyone would know what to expect in that area so wouldn't complain. It may also be worth bearing in mind the club offering cheaper Season Tickets in this area (Not saying they will, or they wont, but you never know what could happen if we take a bit of decent information down to them.......) What we are trying to work out is, would everyone grouping up in the FM Lower be beneficial. At first I thought that nobody would want to move to that area, but the vote/discussion shows quite a few people would be up for it. Even myself I didn't like the idea at first, but after reading both sides of the argument I can see it might work out as a good thing in the long run. Like I say, i'm just after some opinions. I've made this into a Poll type thread so even if you dont want to type a full post out, it would be appreciated if you could just vote so we know whats what. Cheers Poz |
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Post by far on Feb 26, 2009 19:56:09 GMT 1
should ov moved to dg upper near away fans would make awesome noise there with it been close to roof and a good view as well dont like the current singing section cause its littered with children who wanna sing about leeds all day and hate the drum ..................
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Post by stevvy on Feb 26, 2009 20:00:00 GMT 1
theres an awful lot of adults in there too to be fair arron-but anyway,on the topic of where to group together.....erm.......i suppose some people would say singing section as you still get a decent view,covered etc,whereas in the FM lower you're open to the elements,view (possibly) wont be anything like as good as you'd be quite low down,especially if you're in line with the nets and have them in the way...........so.....not sure,if i had to choose,would probably say singing section
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Post by pozza on Feb 26, 2009 20:02:36 GMT 1
should ov moved to dg upper near away fans would make awesome noise there with it been close to roof and a good view as well DG Upper is most expensive area of the ground though mate, plus its next to the "Prawn Sarnie" seats so if we moved up there no doubt we'd just get constant hastle from the Police/Stewards etc. dont like the current singing section cause its littered with children who wanna sing about leeds all day and hate the drum ................ Thats another reason why we are considering moving away from the singing section. If we moved to a new area it might be a "fresh start" so to speak. We could move away from the just singing about L**ds culture, and concentrate on singing Town songs. Get some older songs going again an all. Just so people know, this poll isn't the be-all and end all, it's just to gather more views & opinion from people |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2009 20:07:19 GMT 1
In my opinion, there is only one good place in the ground, the south stand but we all know why that cant happen. FM lower is awful for trying to see the other end unless you are on one of the back rows, so thats a no no for me because as much as i enjoy a sing a long, i go to watch the game first and foremost.
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Post by digwon on Feb 26, 2009 20:08:04 GMT 1
how many does the FM lower hold,would it fit you all in?cant you all give it a test run against Colchester,or is it reseved for st holders,
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Post by pozza on Feb 26, 2009 20:11:29 GMT 1
how many does the FM lower hold,would it fit you all in?cant you all give it a test run against Colchester,or is it reseved for st holders, FM Lower at a guess would hold 1,000ish I'd imagine Aaron, South Stand is obviously first choice and we'll be in there like a shot if we get on a full time basis, this is just a bit of a back up if you get me. Might even be beneficial to have 2 areas within the ground. Folk that dont want to move from Singing Section can stay there, and if we had a group behind the goal an all it might encourage other areas of the ground to join in too. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2009 20:15:12 GMT 1
IMO direct golf lower was always the best place but everyone naffed off to the other side
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Post by stevvy on Feb 26, 2009 20:19:21 GMT 1
how many does the FM lower hold,would it fit you all in?cant you all give it a test run against Colchester,or is it reseved for st holders, the problem there i guess is alot of people are already planning on going in the south stand (especially for the sake of a £1 charge) whereas (potentially,not sure) they may have to fork out more to actually switch to the FM lower (someone will clarify that no doubt), but it wouldnt likely happen for colchester........millwall perhaps,as we wont get the south stand for that game |
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Post by Sid on Feb 26, 2009 20:24:55 GMT 1
It's debatable if the noise wold be 'lost' because of the open air type environment.
We would need to test it
But doubt that would be easy to organise
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Post by digwon on Feb 26, 2009 20:27:23 GMT 1
it would look good all the singing and flags in the lower FM and youd get the team kicking towards you the second half,not sure if the view or cover would be good enough for you lads tho,if you did move there though id definatley keep my ST seat in the antich next to the FM stand next season
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Post by pozza on Feb 26, 2009 20:36:48 GMT 1
It's debatable if the noise wold be 'lost' because of the open air type environment. We would need to test it But doubt that would be easy to organise Possibly the Carilse game would be a good game to try it on Easter Monday. Would imagine they might bring quite a few fans down so we might not get the South Stand for that game. Something to bear in mind anyways. Thanks for all the comments people, much appreciated. |
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Post by TomTheTerrier on Feb 26, 2009 20:48:14 GMT 1
I'd say DG lower, next to the away fans would be the best place for the singing section.
I wouldn't be keen on FM lower at all, just because the view from there is really terrible.
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Post by digwon on Feb 26, 2009 20:51:39 GMT 1
I'd say DG lower, next to the away fans would be the best place for the singing section. I wouldn't be keen on FM lower at all, just because the view from there is really terrible. id say you might annoy some boys who allready sit in there  |
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Post by jimmymac1964 on Feb 26, 2009 20:53:35 GMT 1
Evening All, Been a bit of discusion on the Cowshed Loyal forum as where we'd be best tyring to encourage people to move to next season so we can all group together like in the South Stand. We had a bit of a vote & it came down to 2 area's. The current "singing section" or, the FM Lower behind the goals. Arguments for both area's have been put forward, so were just trying to gauge more views from a wider audience (hence asking on here) Singing section is already quite populated, which in a way is a good thing. However, it also means that next season they might not be many spare seats available for people to move to in that area, and we may be spilt up around people that like the view from thier seat, but aint that bothered about singing all time. I know when we've moved into the South Stand that area is still quite populated. FM Lower would be very easy to get a full block of seats together, but has the problem of being quite "open" to the elements at times. However in that area you could potential have everyone who wants to sing/stand etc so you wouldn't have anyone complaining. It would also be easier to have flags waving (when we get some made up ) as everyone would know what to expect in that area so wouldn't complain. It may also be worth bearing in mind the club offering cheaper Season Tickets in this area (Not saying they will, or they wont, but you never know what could happen if we take a bit of decent information down to them.......) What we are trying to work out is, would everyone grouping up in the FM Lower be beneficial. At first I thought that nobody would want to move to that area, but the vote/discussion shows quite a few people would be up for it. Even myself I didn't like the idea at first, but after reading both sides of the argument I can see it might work out as a good thing in the long run. Like I say, i'm just after some opinions. I've made this into a Poll type thread so even if you dont want to type a full post out, it would be appreciated if you could just vote so we know whats what. Cheers Poz MY VOTE goes to the f m upper as the singing section,,,,OR RIVERSIDE UPPER nearest away fans,,,,its very good up there!!!!! ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by Rob in t'Hood on Feb 26, 2009 20:57:31 GMT 1
DG Lower (near away end) "Naughty Corner" - is THE best place IMO. I enjoy the South Stand, don't get me wrong, but the DG lower is something special. You've got to be in the concourse (spelling?) at half time to know what I mean. Very few moaners - if any. I used to sit in Kilner Bank about 10 years ago but could not stand all the moaners in there - to me, supporting Town is always ups and downs - that's just how it is - thats why I LOVE THEM so much  - if I wanted to watch a team always on the up - I'd watch Man U  I was at Crewe away and you get games where it's just not going to go for you, but moaning constantly just does my head in!  Back to topic - I can't see the FM lower taking off to be honest - its just too far away, no roof, you could get 1000 Ainleys in there and it wouldn't be loud (or would it - Ainley could probably stand in there on his own "giving an H" an we'd all hear him ;D ;D) OOOOOHHHHHHHH TTTHHHEEEE TTTOOOWWWNNNNN....... ;D |
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Post by jimmymac1964 on Feb 26, 2009 20:58:45 GMT 1
IMO direct golf lower was always the best place but everyone naffed off to the other side thats because people got fed up of bieng video,d by the old BILL...there,s nowt worse than a camera pointed at you...it sucks,,TTID |
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Post by pozza on Feb 26, 2009 21:04:40 GMT 1
I'd say DG lower, next to the away fans would be the best place for the singing section. I wouldn't be keen on FM lower at all, just because the view from there is really terrible. id say you might annoy some boys who allready sit in there That was my thought with the DG Lower. I know a few people that sit over that way & they wouldn't be impressed with a load of flags or whatever being waved in & around them. Also, as jimmymac says, its littered with Camera's in that area - Police/Stewards would have a field day. You've also got the executive boxes directy at the top of the blocks, again if peolple have paid good money for them the will want to see the game clearly. Main reason I thought FM Lower was basically we could, within reason, do what we wanted. Its not very busy (at the moment) hardly any Stewards, nobody to annoy or block the views of. Plus I dont think i'v ever seen a Steward in the seating area of the stand ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2009 21:10:57 GMT 1
id say you might annoy some boys who allready sit in there That was my thought with the DG Lower. I know a few people that sit over that way & they wouldn't be impressed with a load of flags or whatever being waved in & around them. Also, as jimmymac says, its littered with Camera's in that area - Police/Stewards would have a field day. You've also got the executive boxes directy at the top of the blocks, again if peolple have paid good money for them the will want to see the game clearly. Main reason I thought FM Lower was basically we could, within reason, do what we wanted. Its not very busy (at the moment) hardly any Stewards, nobody to annoy or block the views of. Plus I dont think i'v ever seen a Steward in the seating area of the stand ;D The stewarding presence would be upped immediately and it would just become the same as it is in the south stand or singing section. |
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Post by reverendstarbuck on Feb 26, 2009 21:19:30 GMT 1
My take for what it's worth is that the current set up works the best. When we cannot have the south stand it would suggest the away following will be sizeable (Millwall notwithstanding) and the atmosphere in the ground will generally sort itself out, with the away end having us coming at them from both sides, which must be unique to the football league and make us one of the more intimidating grounds to visit. Obviously when the away fans are coming on a skateboard we need to generate all the noise ourselves because they ain't going to (again, with the odd exception), so that's when we really do need to be in the south stand.
Relocating a lot of the shirters/kids to the Riverside lower is going to put quite a few noses out of joint. I really like what you guys are doing across the other side, and we sometimes take our cue from you, but we sit in the Riverside Lower for a reason. There might not be many of us for some games but when that corner all sings, you can really feel it, and it would be a mistake in my book to upset the dynamic. I personally enjoy seeing the away fans unsure of which way to gesticulate, left or right. Shifting them en masse down the other end irrespective of their numbers could even have a negative effect on the atmosphere. Just a thought.
Pozza: keep up the good work
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Post by digwon on Feb 26, 2009 21:28:00 GMT 1
also how would it be possible to move the singing section to the DG lower near the away fans,apart from the fact some of the lads who sit there allready would use the young kids as missiles to throw at the away fans,the other reason against would be there may not be any season tickets available in that area if everyone keeps there seats for next season
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Post by reverendstarbuck on Feb 26, 2009 21:33:02 GMT 1
Seems like there's some agreement on the riverside lower then, and to be fair to Pozza it wasn't even an option at the start of this thread, so presumably they discounted it on the other board anyway.
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Post by pozza on Feb 26, 2009 22:15:49 GMT 1
Seems like there's some agreement on the riverside lower then, and to be fair to Pozza it wasn't even an option at the start of this thread, so presumably they discounted it on the other board anyway. Aye we did mate, well in truth we discounted it a long time ago due to reason you stated in your post |
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Post by luke2htfc on Feb 26, 2009 22:21:00 GMT 1
would hate the fm lower as a 'singing section' would remind me of crewe
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Post by TomTheTerrier on Feb 26, 2009 22:45:51 GMT 1
I'd say DG lower, next to the away fans would be the best place for the singing section. I wouldn't be keen on FM lower at all, just because the view from there is really terrible. id say you might annoy some boys who allready sit in there I already sit in there myself |
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Post by Heckyblue on Feb 26, 2009 23:00:40 GMT 1
As somebody who likes a good sing song, I have to say that if we can't have the South Stand then it's probably best to leave things as they are.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2009 3:05:45 GMT 1
As somebody who likes a good sing song, I have to say that if we can't have the South Stand then it's probably best to leave things as they are. I agree heckyblue |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2009 9:07:49 GMT 1
Where ever the so called singing section is located they'll always be too many spotty little 14 years olds who have mouths like sewers and want to sing embarrassingly infantile songs.
For that reason alone I hope you don't all decide to migrate to the Riverside Upper! Please, please, don’t!
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Post by ronnette on Feb 27, 2009 10:03:34 GMT 1
You won't be able to have the FM stand - it is, and always has been, the family stand and therefore no SWEARING. Won't be many songs you'd be able to sing then!! [  ] |
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Post by boothys9iron on Feb 27, 2009 11:58:25 GMT 1
What would it take to make the south stand the home section?
I don't fully understand why the away supporters cant be put in the FM upper/lower, I'm sure over the summer the away coach parking could be rejigged to the other side nearer the FM stand?
The current location of the away coaches in my opinion is in a poor position anyway, both sets of fans have to mix on the small road leading up to the coaches.
The aftermath of the Leeds game in this area was just ridiculous, and the fact that we are unable to hold away fans back in the south stand after the match due to 'safety reasons' proves that this stand is more suitable for home fans!?
A little money spent over the summer on moving the parking and access/exit arrangements to give the Town fans a new 'Cowshed' would up the season ticket sales and atmosphere of the ground considerably!
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) as everyone would know what to expect in that area so wouldn't complain. It may also be worth bearing in mind the club offering cheaper Season Tickets in this area (Not saying they will, or they wont, but you never know what could happen if we take a bit of decent information down to them.......)
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