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Post by Captainslapper on Mar 8, 2009 18:44:38 GMT 1
I think the poor performance yesterday throughout the team ( I'll excuse Williams and Pilks who were both decent) is a direct result of what we've got up front. It must be so demoralising for the team as a whole to know that no matter how well we play, how much on top we are, we have NOTHING up front, no one who's going to score a goal.Its happened time after time this season. You could tell yesterday. It was like they were going through the motions as if they had a 'whats the bloody point' attitude in their head," It won't do any good'. After so long with no goal threat whatsoever from the strikers, Im surprised its taken this long for the wheels to fall off the rest of the side. But judging by yesterday, the cracks are showing now and they look out of ideas on how to scrape another point or two with effectively a 9 man team.
Season's finished now. Ive tried to remain hopefull but not any more. We won't get anywhere near the play-offs with our choice of strikers. So let's get Broadbent back and stick him up front. Give him some game time. He won't do any worse. PLEASE send that Jutkavic or whatever hes called, back asap, cos frankly, its embaressing having a player of that standard turning out for this club. Give Eastwood a few games, when it doesn't really matter. he might be No2 next season and if Smithies gets injured or suspended he'll be asked to step in when the result DOES matter, so let's give him a few games now so hes not so raw.
These last 10 games should be all about preparing for next season now.
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Post by presidentwu on Mar 8, 2009 18:52:45 GMT 1
I think the poor performance yesterday throughout the team ( I'll excuse Williams and Pilks who were both decent) is a direct result of what we've got up front. It must be so demoralising for the team as a whole to know that no matter how well we play, how much on top we are, we have NOTHING up front, no one who's going to score a goal.Its happened time after time this season. You could tell yesterday. It was like they were going through the motions as if they had a 'whats the bloody point' attitude in their head," It won't do any good'. After so long with no goal threat whatsoever from the strikers, Im surprised its taken this long for the wheels to fall off the rest of the side. But judging by yesterday, the cracks are showing now and they look out of ideas on how to scrape another point or two with effectively a 9 man team. Season's finished now. Ive tried to remain hopefull but not any more. We won't get anywhere near the play-offs with our choice of strikers. So let's get Broadbent back and stick him up front. Give him some game time. He won't do any worse. PLEASE send that Jutkavic or whatever hes called, back asap, cos frankly, its embaressing having a player of that standard turning out for this club. Give Eastwood a few games, when it doesn't really matter. he might be No2 next season and if Smithies gets injured or suspended he'll be asked to step in when the result DOES matter, so let's give him a few games now so hes not so raw. These last 10 games should be all about preparing for next season now.
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Post by Sosa on Mar 8, 2009 18:57:22 GMT 1
"So let's get Broadbent back"
Here here mate. I would have got him back after that hartlepool game mate.
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Post by Scissett Terrier! on Mar 8, 2009 18:58:45 GMT 1
"So let's get Broadbent back" Here here mate. I would have got him back after that hartlepool game mate. thats same as i said yesterday, uselessvitch is jsut wasting first team minutes for one of our young lads now
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Post by wonderousworthy on Mar 8, 2009 19:04:00 GMT 1
I'd wait one or two more games before we give fringe players one last chance (as ritchie said its still mathmatically(sp) possible )... I would however like to see tom clarke, James Berrett, Mickey Flynn, Danny Braodbent and Easty all given a go.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Mar 8, 2009 19:07:32 GMT 1
Just watch the passion and desire from everton in the excellent cup match and Moyes hyped up on the touchline, and we have to let that 6ft streak of piss play in our great shirt !!!
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Post by terrierng on Mar 8, 2009 19:25:34 GMT 1
I think the poor performance yesterday throughout the team ( I'll excuse Williams and Pilks who were both decent) is a direct result of what we've got up front. It must be so demoralising for the team as a whole to know that no matter how well we play, how much on top we are, we have NOTHING up front, no one who's going to score a goal.Its happened time after time this season. You could tell yesterday. It was like they were going through the motions as if they had a 'whats the bloody point' attitude in their head," It won't do any good'. After so long with no goal threat whatsoever from the strikers, Im surprised its taken this long for the wheels to fall off the rest of the side. But judging by yesterday, the cracks are showing now and they look out of ideas on how to scrape another point or two with effectively a 9 man team. Season's finished now. Ive tried to remain hopefull but not any more. We won't get anywhere near the play-offs with our choice of strikers. So let's get Broadbent back and stick him up front. Give him some game time. He won't do any worse. PLEASE send that Jutkavic or whatever hes called, back asap, cos frankly, its embaressing having a player of that standard turning out for this club. Give Eastwood a few games, when it doesn't really matter. he might be No2 next season and if Smithies gets injured or suspended he'll be asked to step in when the result DOES matter, so let's give him a few games now so hes not so raw. These last 10 games should be all about preparing for next season now. 100 per cent on the money but personally although i hoped of a play off spot i never thought we had a chance as a team whose strikers have only a few between them will ultimatly finish with nothing,shame as the football we have played at times is way above anyone else i have seen in this league,what is dissapointing capt is some posters shortsightedness in slagging our management team,some even wanting to sack them!!!he is new to management and will slip up here and there but given the backing he will get in the summer will get us up automatic next yr,i hope he does blood a few fringe players providing he intends to keep them because like you say we will need them at times,on a side note i know we wont ever agree re.worthy but you must admit lucketti hasnt done too bad these last two games
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2009 20:00:19 GMT 1
I'm not sure Broadbent is anywhere near ready though. He's not scored for Gateshead yet, and didn't do well for Rushden. Its all well and good saying it'll be good experience for him, but it could destroy him if he isn't ready.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Mar 8, 2009 20:23:22 GMT 1
One of the Academy young lads would be more use than that unfit bloody fairy weve got now !
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2009 20:42:36 GMT 1
One of the Academy young lads would be more use than that unfit bloody fairy weve got now ! One could be forgiven for thinking that you're not keen on him ;D
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Post by Captainslapper on Mar 8, 2009 21:59:00 GMT 1
Yeah Luckettis done ok. Better than he did at the start of the season. Hes not good enough to push Butler and Clarke for their places though IMO, which is what we need ideally. Comments about Clarks position are ridiculous. Hes still largely working with other managers players and it would be unfair to judge him much until hes had a summer to piece together his own team. I still think hes taking us in the right direction and the whole picture this season is totally clouded by just one burning issue- no strikers. I can't see past that because if that wasn't the problem it is, we'd be well positioned for a play-off spot (at least). Hes not above critisism though and he has made mistakes. The biggest being his failure to land any kind of striker in january. He's signed one player on loan who is probably the worst, lazyest, uncommited,unfittest players Ive ever seen. And one who it turns out isn't eligable to play for us. At the same time hes let 2 of the strikers we did have go out on loan!
All he's achieved really is to make a pathetically poor, failing, choice of strikers even WORSE than it was! ( which took some doing!)
I hope to hell he fares better in the summer when we go hunting for the 2 proven, prolific strikers we will be signing.
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Post by sunflower on Mar 8, 2009 22:42:01 GMT 1
Jutkavic will probably turn out to be the next Scott Macdonald now, judging by his popularity here
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Post by thomo on Mar 9, 2009 9:22:53 GMT 1
Asked this before - are we allowed to bring in another striker on loan?
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Post by dugnet on Mar 9, 2009 9:30:53 GMT 1
Slapps - Totally agree here with what you say.
Some of the fringe players deserve a go now and I'd start with Berret for either Collins or Craney on Tuesday. Failing that Tom Clarke for either of these two. Nothing against C and C but they don't work as a pair, too similar.
Boothy to start.
Mind you the result will be pretty academic now.
I also totally agree re LC - his proper reign starts now so we can hit the ground running in August.
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Post by Floyds on Mar 9, 2009 9:34:02 GMT 1
We do lack a striker, obviously. And we would be better off if we had one (or two) capable of even looking like scoring.
But even with a striker - we will still have the same old weaknesses we have always had.
I would look to replace (from yesterday's starting 11):
Holdsworth, Butler, Lucketti, Craney, maybe Collins and obviously Lukas
Williams did ok although i would still release Skarz and bring another one in.
I dunno - hope LC doesnt get sucked into thinking a striker will solve all his problems otherwise we will struggle next season.
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Post by AndySk on Mar 9, 2009 9:51:30 GMT 1
We have had difficulty scoring goals all season yet we have 4 strikers out on loan!!! Priority is definately 2 strikers in the summer. I wouldn't mind Pilks up front for a couple of games. The guy looks class and he's one of the few players whose not afraid to shoot. As for Jokeavitch, I wouldn't be surprised if he never scores a goal in football again!!
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Mar 9, 2009 10:24:30 GMT 1
Agree with Slaps time to give the fringe players a start - Craney got his on Saturday and did okay but sorry I don't how he's going to push Goodwin or Collins for a start, granted he tried to tackle but it helps no one when all he did was foul! Maybe Berrett, Flynn or even Nightingale (why not season over IMO) could get the chance to show what they have before the end of the season (obviously I also hope Worthy gets a good crack from the new management team, he deserves that at least for his loyal service and IMO he remains our best midfielder)
I suspect once LC has finished tieing up the players he "really" wants on longer term deals he'll then focus in May on the players who he'll offer a 12 month contract to. I'd be amazed if Broadbent isn't offered a 12 month new deal, don't forget he beat Smithies to League One Apprentice of the Year so there's pointer to his potential IMO - yes it's a risk that he may be raw and it could undermine his confidence, but it only needs one goal to get the confidence going, Jon Stead is a great example of not looking great at first and needing time to adjust to first team football
As for Lucas, Everton have been sold a right one there! Why don't Town get that kind of luck, £1 million - honestly. He reminds me so much of McAliskey (remember Blackburn were once keen on him!), you can see the skill is there but he has absolutely no heart. Infact I'm probably being hard on Macca there because at least he was prepared to chase the odd lost cause. I'd send Lucas back tomorrow, it would be benefical to both us and the player IMO
If Lucas got told we felt he wasn't up to League One standard he may take a hard look at himself and apply himself and make the most of his talents and make a top flight career (otherwise I wouldn't be suprised if he's be out of the game by the time he's 25, like McAliskey!)
While for Clark, he could show the others he means business and won't suffer fools. It's one thing saying in a press conference I only want players who don't want to langish in League One forever, then pick Lucas - the least committed player IMO of the lot - for the next game!
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Post by terrierspirit on Mar 9, 2009 22:47:58 GMT 1
We do lack a striker, obviously. And we would be better off if we had one (or two) capable of even looking like scoring. But even with a striker - we will still have the same old weaknesses we have always had. I would look to replace (from yesterday's starting 11): Holdsworth, Butler, Lucketti, Craney, maybe Collins and obviously Lukas Williams did ok although i would still release Skarz and bring another one in. I dunno - hope LC doesnt get sucked into thinking a striker will solve all his problems otherwise we will struggle next season. Are you seriously watching the same team play on a saturday to me? Holdsworth is one of the best full backs in this league, Collins could easily play at higher level and Butler this season has been absolutely immense. You need to start watching Huddersfield Town.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2009 22:50:30 GMT 1
We do lack a striker, obviously. And we would be better off if we had one (or two) capable of even looking like scoring. But even with a striker - we will still have the same old weaknesses we have always had. I would look to replace (from yesterday's starting 11): Holdsworth, Butler, Lucketti, Craney, maybe Collins and obviously Lukas Williams did ok although i would still release Skarz and bring another one in. I dunno - hope LC doesnt get sucked into thinking a striker will solve all his problems otherwise we will struggle next season. Are you seriously watching the same team play on a saturday to me? Holdsworth is one of the best full backs in this league, Collins could easily play at higher level and Butler this season has been absolutely immense. You need to start watching Huddersfield Town. You clearly dont know this division very well if Holdsworth is one of the best full backs. Collins is decent but goes missing and if Butler has been imense i'm steve bruce.
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Post by terrierspirit on Mar 9, 2009 23:15:57 GMT 1
Tell me a better full-back..
And are you thick or just blind? Butler has been quality apart from the Crewe game.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2009 23:19:30 GMT 1
Tell me a better full-back.. And are you thick or just blind? Butler has been quality apart from the Crewe game. The reason i dont particularly like Butler is because he is too slow and also Clark is obsessed with us playing it from the back through Butler when he is one of the least talented footballers (natural footballing ability i.e passing, dribbling etc) which i dont understand Well seeing as you just want one, Joe Mattock at Leicester. That was easy enough, would you like another sir?
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Post by shawsie on Mar 9, 2009 23:22:21 GMT 1
Sorry LC but andy h has had a poor season and is certainly not one of the best in this league - if you want better try these for starters
lewington (mk dons) gilbert (leicester)
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Post by oldmanboothy on Mar 10, 2009 0:06:20 GMT 1
We have no strikers but i nearly cried with frustration when i watched this video last night: Is it really the same player
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Post by Floyds on Mar 10, 2009 13:31:47 GMT 1
Holdsworth the best right back in the league?
Haha. Yeah.......just like Glennon is the best keeper outside the Premiership? ;D
Collins could play at a higher level - but at the moment he is so inconsistent / goes missing far too often - to even warrant a starting place IMO.
Or at least he wouldnt do if our squad didnt consist of the equally hit and miss Craney and the miss of Flynn
Butler immense?
If our players are so good, we do we keep losing games and conceding soft goals?
Do you reckon opposition fans see our players and say"yeah, that right back is good - best i have seen in the league"
Or not?
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Post by Dell12 on Mar 10, 2009 13:36:14 GMT 1
I wouldn't worry about Holdsworth for the minute, he's be far not the weakest link in our team. We should concentrate on getting 2/3 new strikers because I think apart from that i'm reasonably happy with the rest of the team. I think any widescale changes over the summer could see us having another season of mediocraty in League 1!
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Post by Captainslapper on Mar 10, 2009 13:50:40 GMT 1
I don't see Holdsworth as a weak link at all. Id like to see him bomb forward more than he does, but that appart Im happy enough with him at right back. the goals we concede seem to mainly come down the left anyway. Strikers are what this team needs not repeating the same squad changing blunders Turnip made. A lot of the other problems people think we have would be solved by strikers aswell. Collins for example -A large part of Collins's game is linking with the forwards, one-twos, threading passes through for them to feed off. Its hardly surprising he struggles to make an impact when we have NOTHING up front for him to link up with!
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Post by TerrierArmy on Mar 10, 2009 14:00:09 GMT 1
Sorry LC but andy h has had a poor season and is certainly not one of the best in this league - if you want better try these for starters lewington (mk dons) gilbert (leicester) Lewington - LB. Gilberts on loan from Arsenal,so no chance!
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Post by Porrohman on Mar 10, 2009 15:34:40 GMT 1
Sorry LC but andy h has had a poor season and is certainly not one of the best in this league - if you want better try these for starters lewington (mk dons) gilbert (leicester) isnt lewington a left back(jacko wanted to sign him so that doesnt say much) and gilbert is like the rest of the league leaders-on loan from the greed league
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Post by ellsky on Mar 10, 2009 16:29:58 GMT 1
I don't see Holdsworth as a weak link at all. Id like to see him bomb forward more than he does, but that apart I'm happy enough with him at right back. the goals we concede seem to mainly come down the left anyway. Strikers are what this team needs not repeating the same squad changing blunders Turnip made. A lot of the other problems people think we have would be solved by strikers aswell. Collins for example -A large part of Collins's game is linking with the forwards, one-twos, threading passes through for them to feed off. Its hardly surprising he struggles to make an impact when we have NOTHING up front for him to link up with! l well said Slaps you should be Lee Clark's right hand man m8, but you cant blame turnip for how we are right now because we have always been like we are lololol and the way its going ,,,we will be for the foreseeable future (in my opinion)
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Post by In sooth- - on Mar 10, 2009 17:15:52 GMT 1
Fortunately Lewington is not playing tonight. - - -I believe.
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