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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2011 0:09:41 GMT 1
The thread was locked because it was getting a bit 'I'm better than you because I went'. Those that went went, those that didn't didn't. At the end of the day we are all Town fans and we support our club in our own ways. which power mad baztard locked it?
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Post by stevvy on Sept 17, 2011 0:20:42 GMT 1
There shouldn't be categories at all. Quite honestly what I'd do (if it was possible to make it work financially for clubs anyway, without making a load of them go bust) is:
Championship - £25 adults, £20 seniors and disabled, £15 16-18yr olds and students, £10 11-15yr olds, and £7.50 for under 11s
League 1 - £20 adults, £15 seniors and disabled, £10 16-18yr olds and students, £7.50 11-15yr olds, £5 for under 11s
League 2 - £15 adults, £10 seniors and disabled, £7.50 16-18yr olds and students, £5 11-15yr olds, £2.50 for under 11s
Ok it probably wouldn't work out financially for the clubs, but that's what I'd do. Either that or the prices I put for League 1 are used across all 3 FL divisions.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2011 10:20:59 GMT 1
Yes the problem here is the Categories. Of course clubs will move prices around etc to make as much money as they can if they are allowed to do so.
Categories screw over the regular fan and reward the part timer really cos the regular will go whatever cost and the part timer will attend the cheapies. Scrap the categories and charge 17.50 a game for every game in the league. With all the other financial fair play rules coming in it makes more sense that way anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2011 10:27:19 GMT 1
But to get those kind of changes I get the feeling that it would take a more nationwide boycott from all fans of all matches so they sit up and listen
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2011 11:07:00 GMT 1
Yes the problem here is the Categories. Of course clubs will move prices around etc to make as much money as they can if they are allowed to do so. Categories screw over the regular fan and reward the part timer really cos the regular will go whatever cost and the part timer will attend the cheapies. Scrap the categories and charge 17.50 a game for every game in the league. With all the other financial fair play rules coming in it makes more sense that way anyway. Reverse logic there fad, they screw the part timers at popular games, more attend so the extras can't be regulars; and visa versa.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2011 12:00:25 GMT 1
Yes the problem here is the Categories. Of course clubs will move prices around etc to make as much money as they can if they are allowed to do so. Categories screw over the regular fan and reward the part timer really cos the regular will go whatever cost and the part timer will attend the cheapies. Scrap the categories and charge 17.50 a game for every game in the league. With all the other financial fair play rules coming in it makes more sense that way anyway. Reverse logic there fad, they screw the part timers at popular games, more attend so the extras can't be regulars; and visa versa. More attend big away matches than home matches? dont think so. If ya charge less for all I would suggest that you probably get more fans going over the course of a season.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2011 12:09:36 GMT 1
plus its all getting a bit hypocritical on here. Boycotting sheff u when actually I happen to think that our own ticket prices are extortionate. I'd prefer to pay championship prices when we are in the championship, not before!
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Post by DutchTownFan on Sept 17, 2011 12:35:45 GMT 1
There shouldn't be categories at all. Quite honestly what I'd do (if it was possible to make it work financially for clubs anyway, without making a load of them go bust) is: Championship - £25 adults, £20 seniors and disabled, £15 16-18yr olds and students, £10 11-15yr olds, and £7.50 for under 11s League 1 - £20 adults, £15 seniors and disabled, £10 16-18yr olds and students, £7.50 11-15yr olds, £5 for under 11s League 2 - £15 adults, £10 seniors and disabled, £7.50 16-18yr olds and students, £5 11-15yr olds, £2.50 for under 11s Ok it probably wouldn't work out financially for the clubs, but that's what I'd do. Either that or the prices I put for League 1 are used across all 3 FL divisions. Which should be logical. Well, maybe just an easier version of £25, £15 concess. & free under 4 and so on for different leagues. The problem with it though, is that the gaps between the leagues will grow even further. 15.000 home fans in the Champ. 9.500 x £ 25 = £237.500 5.000 x £ 15 = £75.000 500 x £ 0 = £ 0 Total = £312.500 12 home fans in L1 8.000 x £20 = £160.000 3.500 x £12.50 = £43.750 500 x £0 = £0 total = £ 203.750 £100.000 difference every home match is £2.3 milllion a season That would realy effect the chances of clubs trying to move up the football ladder. But I certainly agree that prices are way too high. Even £20 is a lot for 3rd divisionb football!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2011 12:40:22 GMT 1
plus its all getting a bit hypocritical on here. Boycotting sheff u when actually I happen to think that our own ticket prices are extortionate. I'd prefer to pay championship prices when we are in the championship, not before! all footballs overpriced.hopefully the sheff u boycott is the beginning of us football fans finally saying.no more!.small start but you have to start somewhere :nodding:
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Post by mrsoft on Sept 17, 2011 13:54:15 GMT 1
Some berk in the bowels of Bramall Lane with a calculator has messed this up. The boycott was the right thing to do.
Straightforward pricing science, you keep on bashing the price higher until the market reacts with a big V sign and if it reacts strongly enough, then what the berks call "yield" drops lower than they forecast and someone gets egg on their face or better still LOSES their job.
We took what, 4,500 to Wendies last year and on a night game too. The twat with the calculator applied that same assumption and got it horribly wrong. Who knows, at £15-20 a pop we might have taken 4000 down to Sheff Utd. Instead we took 1500, do the maths!
These boycotts have more power than you might realise.
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Post by BradfordTerrier on Sept 17, 2011 14:18:34 GMT 1
plus its all getting a bit hypocritical on here. Boycotting sheff u when actually I happen to think that our own ticket prices are extortionate. I'd prefer to pay championship prices when we are in the championship, not before! Point missed again. I think we all agree that football prices(inc Town) are too much. The boycott was about the fact that Bury fans were charged £14 and we were charged double that including a ridiculous, football league approved, extra 10%.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2011 14:35:39 GMT 1
plus its all getting a bit hypocritical on here. Boycotting sheff u when actually I happen to think that our own ticket prices are extortionate. I'd prefer to pay championship prices when we are in the championship, not before! Point missed again. I think we all agree that football prices(inc Town) are too much. The boycott was about the fact that Bury fans were charged £14 and we were charged double that including a ridiculous, football league approved, extra 10%. No point not missed. I get the point. But why are we stopping there???
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Post by Captainslapper on Sept 18, 2011 1:02:11 GMT 1
£17 max in Championship £15 max in L1 £13 max in L2
That should be what is set and fazed in over the next couple of years. Clubs WOULD be able to afford it because they'd all have to adjust their wage bills accordingly and stop paying very average lower league players the executive salaries they get.
No players in the bottom 2 divisions should be getting 6 figure salaries. If they don't like it ,let them get a job outside football that pays that!!
Its bad enough normal working people being priced out of watching prem football ,but when people can't afford to even watch lower division football, something is seriously wrong. And why is it so expensive? - So the players can earn silly amounts of money. You can watch German top flight games for less than we're expected to pay to watch our 4th tier in this country.
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Post by rantinray on Sept 18, 2011 12:43:35 GMT 1
Sheffield United wanted to make a killing from the visiting Huddersfield fans. As it has been stated Bury fans paid £14 but the Blades expected Huddersfield fans to pay double, WHY. That is the question WHY, why should we pay double are we getting double the treatment when we go? Is the half time entertainment double the enjoyment? I have a question that some may like to respond to and that is what will happen when wage capping comes into force? Finally those fans who went good for them those that did not good for them. Give the bickering a miss. If you like to be exploited then so be it. Solidarity did not get its name because it was a splinter group. The choice was down to the individual and each individual had his or her own reasons for going or not. There was not a correct or wrong decision.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2011 13:40:27 GMT 1
It's cheaper to provide standing and lot more fun. And it wasn't the standing that caused deaths in any catastrophe a football match that I am aware of. That is where the effort should be. Price control will never happen, forget it. Standing in Germany provides all the evidence we need!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2011 14:00:06 GMT 1
£17 max in Championship £15 max in L1 £13 max in L2 That should be what is set and fazed in over the next couple of years. Clubs WOULD be able to afford it because they'd all have to adjust their wage bills accordingly and stop paying very average lower league players the executive salaries they get. No players in the bottom 2 divisions should be getting 6 figure salaries. If they don't like it ,let them get a job outside football that pays that!! Its bad enough normal working people being priced out of watching prem football ,but when people can't afford to even watch lower division football, something is seriously wrong. And why is it so expensive? - So the players can earn silly amounts of money. You can watch German top flight games for less than we're expected to pay to watch our 4th tier in this country. Spot on I'd back this to the hilt .set price across the board would make it easy to plan your games and more affordable for family's
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Post by rantinray on Sept 18, 2011 15:00:05 GMT 1
£17 max in Championship £15 max in L1 £13 max in L2 That should be what is set and fazed in over the next couple of years. Clubs WOULD be able to afford it because they'd all have to adjust their wage bills accordingly and stop paying very average lower league players the executive salaries they get. No players in the bottom 2 divisions should be getting 6 figure salaries. If they don't like it ,let them get a job outside football that pays that!! Its bad enough normal working people being priced out of watching prem football ,but when people can't afford to even watch lower division football, something is seriously wrong. And why is it so expensive? - So the players can earn silly amounts of money. You can watch German top flight games for less than we're expected to pay to watch our 4th tier in this country. Spot on I'd back this to the hilt .set price across the board would make it easy to plan your games and more affordable for family's Slaps gets my vote on his statement. The costs are spiraling out of control. The fan cannot support the cost of early retirement for a footballer. As they say if you cannot stand the heat get out of the kitchen. There are only Prem players who can retire without drifting down the divisions.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2011 18:03:03 GMT 1
But it's anti-competitive and probably against the law, like all price fixing - it won't happen, move on.
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Post by artysid on Sept 18, 2011 18:24:40 GMT 1
But it's anti-competitive and probably against the law, like all price fixing - it won't happen, move on. Not if the Football League employed all the players and implemented a process that decided (in accordance with a formulae agreed with the Clubs) where they were going to play.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2011 21:48:02 GMT 1
So after nearly a week to reflect, did the boycott prove the point we were trying to make? I didn't go and I'm glad the numbers were as low as they were.
Will it make Sheffield United change their policy when Charlton and Preston play there? I doubt it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2011 22:32:59 GMT 1
So after nearly a week to reflect, did the boycott prove the point we were trying to make? I didn't go and I'm glad the numbers were as low as they were. Will it make Sheffield United change their policy when Charlton and Preston play there? I doubt it. Charlton fans getting charged £20.00 - Cat B.
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Post by BoltonTerrier on Sept 19, 2011 22:35:23 GMT 1
So after nearly a week to reflect, did the boycott prove the point we were trying to make? I didn't go and I'm glad the numbers were as low as they were. Will it make Sheffield United change their policy when Charlton and Preston play there? I doubt it. Charlton fans getting charged £20.00 - Cat B. Dunno whether im happy or annoyed at that. :iconlol: :iconlol: : : :ranting:
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2011 22:36:46 GMT 1
Charlton fans getting charged £20.00 - Cat B. Dunno whether im happy or annoyed at that. Sheff Wednesday are getting charged the same as us though, don't know if they will take the same stance as us, given that it's a city derby.
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Post by BoltonTerrier on Sept 19, 2011 22:38:11 GMT 1
Sheff Wednesday are getting charged the same as us though, don't know if they will take the same stance as us, given that it's a city derby. Probably not... Theyll be too scared of not being seen as MASSIVES
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