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Post by stellify on Aug 26, 2011 11:20:19 GMT 1
i remember him being discussed at length on here..... signed for the Cod Army today.
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Post by terrier08 on Aug 26, 2011 11:28:24 GMT 1
Who?
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Post by Spunker on Aug 26, 2011 11:32:06 GMT 1
Is that Fleetwood's nickname?
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Post by terrierluke on Aug 26, 2011 11:35:49 GMT 1
aint this that useless Halifax striker?
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Post by Spunker on Aug 26, 2011 12:01:58 GMT 1
aint this that useless Halifax striker? next........ I don't think he's useless It would be a bit like Barcelona saying Ricky Lambert is useless.. It is all relative.
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Post by forehead on Aug 26, 2011 12:02:40 GMT 1
Doubt he'd cut it at this level, apparently he likes his :beer: rather a lot
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Post by wistula1920 on Aug 26, 2011 12:07:12 GMT 1
aint this that useless Halifax striker? next........ Hardly someone you can call useless. DUH!!
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Post by terrierluke on Aug 26, 2011 13:02:31 GMT 1
Why can't I call him useless? It is a forum of 'opinions' so many keep saying.
Thing is, i can comment on his ability first hand as I've played against him on three or four occasions.
The lad will NEVER cut it as a professional footballer.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2011 13:37:07 GMT 1
Doubt he'd cut it at this level, apparently he likes his rather a lot So do I. :nodding:
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Post by terrierashton on Aug 26, 2011 13:44:39 GMT 1
Why can't I call him useless? It is a forum of 'opinions' so many keep saying. Thing is, i can comment on his ability first hand as I've played against him on three or four occasions. The lad will NEVER cut it as a professional footballer. Think he would be useless for us so you are vindicated in that sense. Don't know how you can say he will NEVER cut it as a pro though...??
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Post by chinaski on Aug 26, 2011 13:52:06 GMT 1
Why can't I call him useless? It is a forum of 'opinions' so many keep saying. Thing is, i can comment on his ability first hand as I've played against him on three or four occasions. The lad will NEVER cut it as a professional footballer. I played with Cameron Jerome through school, thought he was decent but never a professional footballer. People improve, especially when they train a lot more regularly and with better coaches/players around them.
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Post by terrierluke on Aug 26, 2011 13:57:18 GMT 1
Can you not read?
I'm not vidicated at all. I have played against this lad several times and also seen him player several times on top of that. Based on both experiences, I am confident enough to say that he will not cut it as a professional footballer.
I said the same about Denton - who i'd also played against - and I was right. Although very different players, his and Vardy's ability levels are about the same. They both score a lot of goals at low semi-pro levels, but just aren't good enough to make the step up.
On the other hand, there are two players who I cannot believe have never been snapped up as they are simply piss-takers at their current clubs. Paul Walker, currently at Garforth Town, is a class act but once turned down the offer of a contract with us when Peter Jackson was in charge. To this day I don't know why. The other is Richard Marshall at Harrogate Town. Both of these are in a different class to Vardy, but have never got that bit of luck. Vardy has but he doesn't have the ability to do anything with it.
So Ashton, in short, I've played enough semi-pro and top amateur football to be able to cast judgement on various players at these levels. Jamie Vardy is not good enough.
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Post by terrierluke on Aug 26, 2011 14:02:02 GMT 1
coardy - I do agree with you to some extent there. I played against Cameron Jerome at junior levels for 4 or 5 consecutive seasons.He played for West End and Stile Common whilst I was at Liversedge Sporting Juniors. The lad was quick but aside of that, pretty woeful. Thing is though, he always said he'd make it, as did his dad, and he eventually got snapped up at a young age. Young enough to receive the amount of techinal work he needed. He was a decent player by the time he was 15/16 and with the pace he had, was worth a gamble by someone. Cardiff eventually took a chance and it paid off. Vardy isn't 15/16 though and doesn't have enough about him to put the work in to improve himself.
As I said earlier, it's all about opinions but I've seen more than enough of him to cast proper judgement. Most, if not all, others are commenting on hear-say
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Post by jqhtfc on Aug 26, 2011 14:03:29 GMT 1
Why can't I call him useless? It is a forum of 'opinions' so many keep saying. Thing is, i can comment on his ability first hand as I've played against him on three or four occasions. The lad will NEVER cut it as a professional footballer. I played with Cameron Jerome through school, thought he was decent but never a professional footballer. People improve, especially when they train a lot more regularly and with better coaches/players around them. Cam was always a cut above everybody else at School though but like you say training full time improves all your attributes. You a fellow Royds hall lad then?
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Post by PrestonTerrier on Aug 26, 2011 14:45:20 GMT 1
coardy - I do agree with you to some extent there. I played against Cameron Jerome at junior levels for 4 or 5 consecutive seasons.He played for West End and Stile Common whilst I was at Liversedge Sporting Juniors. The lad was quick but aside of that, pretty woeful. Thing is though, he always said he'd make it, as did his dad, and he eventually got snapped up at a young age. Young enough to receive the amount of techinal work he needed. He was a decent player by the time he was 15/16 and with the pace he had, was worth a gamble by someone. Cardiff eventually took a chance and it paid off. Vardy isn't 15/16 though and doesn't have enough about him to put the work in to improve himself. As I said earlier, it's all about opinions but I've seen more than enough of him to cast proper judgement. Most, if not all, others are commenting on hear-say I played for Stile Common too and I agree with what you say about him. Remember getting hammered by Liversedge on one cold Sunday
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Post by terrierluke on Aug 26, 2011 15:08:29 GMT 1
Think we hammered you a few times Preston ;-)
To be fair, the team we had was awesome at the time. In the 5 seasons I played - as the goalkeeper before breaking my elbow - we only three games in total. One was against Brighouse in the cup final, another against clifton in a cup semi and a bizarre one against Honley.
But no, Cameron wasn't great and I used to laugh at him and his dad when they'd give it all this and that about where he was going. Fair play to the lad for what he's done though - he always said he would. that said, I still don't think he's all that. A lad in our Liversedge side at the time - Paul Walker. You may remember him running rings round everyone - is still a better player but for whatever reason he loses his bottle at the many trials he has.
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Post by terrierluke on Aug 26, 2011 15:08:59 GMT 1
** only lost three games in total
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Post by chinaski on Aug 26, 2011 15:24:19 GMT 1
I played with Cameron Jerome through school, thought he was decent but never a professional footballer. People improve, especially when they train a lot more regularly and with better coaches/players around them. Cam was always a cut above everybody else at School though but like you say training full time improves all your attributes. You a fellow Royds hall lad then? Yeah I am mate, I was in the year below but used to play/train with the year 11 team when I was in year 10 quite a bit.
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Post by terrierashton on Aug 26, 2011 15:32:57 GMT 1
Can you not read? I'm not vidicated at all. I have played against this lad several times and also seen him player several times on top of that. Based on both experiences, I am confident enough to say that he will not cut it as a professional footballer. I said the same about Denton - who i'd also played against - and I was right. Although very different players, his and Vardy's ability levels are about the same. They both score a lot of goals at low semi-pro levels, but just aren't good enough to make the step up. On the other hand, there are two players who I cannot believe have never been snapped up as they are simply piss-takers at their current clubs. Paul Walker, currently at Garforth Town, is a class act but once turned down the offer of a contract with us when Peter Jackson was in charge. To this day I don't know why. The other is Richard Marshall at Harrogate Town. Both of these are in a different class to Vardy, but have never got that bit of luck. Vardy has but he doesn't have the ability to do anything with it. So Ashton, in short, I've played enough semi-pro and top amateur football to be able to cast judgement on various players at these levels. Jamie Vardy is not good enough. Why wouldn't I be able to read? Have I missed something? Maybe vindicated was a little extreme but incase you missed the point - I WAS AGREEING WITH YOU THAT HE WOULD BE USELESS FOR US. As for your ability to spot a player - well done!
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Post by jqhtfc on Aug 26, 2011 15:39:24 GMT 1
Cam was always a cut above everybody else at School though but like you say training full time improves all your attributes. You a fellow Royds hall lad then? Yeah I am mate, I was in the year below but used to play/train with the year 11 team when I was in year 10 quite a bit. Sound mate might know you was in same year as Cam and that!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2011 16:53:34 GMT 1
Can you not read? I'm not vidicated at all. I have played against this lad several times and also seen him player several times on top of that. Based on both experiences, I am confident enough to say that he will not cut it as a professional footballer. I said the same about Denton - who i'd also played against - and I was right. Although very different players, his and Vardy's ability levels are about the same. They both score a lot of goals at low semi-pro levels, but just aren't good enough to make the step up. On the other hand, there are two players who I cannot believe have never been snapped up as they are simply piss-takers at their current clubs. Paul Walker, currently at Garforth Town, is a class act but once turned down the offer of a contract with us when Peter Jackson was in charge. To this day I don't know why. The other is Richard Marshall at Harrogate Town. Both of these are in a different class to Vardy, but have never got that bit of luck. Vardy has but he doesn't have the ability to do anything with it. So Ashton, in short, I've played enough semi-pro and top amateur football to be able to cast judgement on various players at these levels. Jamie Vardy is not good enough. Why wouldn't I be able to read? Have I missed something? Maybe vindicated was a little extreme but incase you missed the point - I WAS AGREEING WITH YOU THAT HE WOULD BE USELESS FOR US. As for your ability to spot a player - well done! Ha ha beauty. Happen he needs an English lesson
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Post by PrestonTerrier on Aug 26, 2011 18:53:44 GMT 1
Think we hammered you a few times Preston ;-) To be fair, the team we had was awesome at the time. In the 5 seasons I played - as the goalkeeper before breaking my elbow - we only three games in total. One was against Brighouse in the cup final, another against clifton in a cup semi and a bizarre one against Honley. But no, Cameron wasn't great and I used to laugh at him and his dad when they'd give it all this and that about where he was going. Fair play to the lad for what he's done though - he always said he would. that said, I still don't think he's all that. A lad in our Liversedge side at the time - Paul Walker. You may remember him running rings round everyone - is still a better player but for whatever reason he loses his bottle at the many trials he has. Aye you did, we never enjoyed going to your place! The one game I recall we got so frustrated that we just started playing dirty, got rather feisty! We always did pretty well against Clifton and we'd always get excited and up our game against Brighouse because of Jacko watching his son, still didn't help us beat them though :iconlol: I think we got revenge one year in the Yorkshire Cup : : Those were the days...
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Post by backtobackchamps on Sept 1, 2011 15:17:12 GMT 1
As a halifax season ticket holder im devastated hes gone.wanted him to come to hudds if he had to go so we could come and watch occasionally.followed the threads on here with interest and there was lots of bollox spouted.you'll regret not buying him in years to come.hes better than mickall-smith was when he left conference.to the guy on here who thinks richard marshall is better--then id stick to playing pal as you'll never make a coach.
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Post by terrierluke on Sept 1, 2011 15:24:22 GMT 1
backtobackchamps - as a Halifax Town ST holder you have obviously got a rather blinkered opinion of the guy. Richard Marshall, IMO, is an all-round better player than Jamie - Jamie is only stronger than him in the air - and Paul Walker at Garforth is twice the player. For you to say that he's a better player than Mackail-Smith when he left the conference is ludicrous. Did you see CMS play often did you? Pfft
The lad is 24 years old and has just got his 'big move' to Fleetwood. There is a reason why he playing there, rather than a FL club and that is because he ain't good enough and won't be.
I'm happy to eat my words should I be proven wrong but I'm sorry, it aint gonna happen.
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Post by wistula1920 on Sept 1, 2011 23:20:00 GMT 1
backtobackchamps - as a Halifax Town ST holder you have obviously got a rather blinkered opinion of the guy. Richard Marshall, IMO, is an all-round better player than Jamie - Jamie is only stronger than him in the air - and Paul Walker at Garforth is twice the player. For you to say that he's a better player than Mackail-Smith when he left the conference is ludicrous. Did you see CMS play often did you? Pfft The lad is 24 years old and has just got his 'big move' to Fleetwood. There is a reason why he playing there, rather than a FL club and that is because he ain't good enough and won't be. I'm happy to eat my words should I be proven wrong but I'm sorry, it aint gonna happen. Yeah Yeah we get the message. You're great. Pfft Remind us again what your full-time job is?
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Post by terrierluke on Sept 2, 2011 9:13:10 GMT 1
backtobackchamps - as a Halifax Town ST holder you have obviously got a rather blinkered opinion of the guy. Richard Marshall, IMO, is an all-round better player than Jamie - Jamie is only stronger than him in the air - and Paul Walker at Garforth is twice the player. For you to say that he's a better player than Mackail-Smith when he left the conference is ludicrous. Did you see CMS play often did you? Pfft The lad is 24 years old and has just got his 'big move' to Fleetwood. There is a reason why he playing there, rather than a FL club and that is because he ain't good enough and won't be. I'm happy to eat my words should I be proven wrong but I'm sorry, it aint gonna happen. Yeah Yeah we get the message. You're great. Pfft Remind us again what your full-time job is? What has my full-time job got to do with anything? Anyway since you asked, I'm a golf journaist/reporter earning well above the national average. How about yourself?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2011 9:56:33 GMT 1
Yeah Yeah we get the message. You're great. Pfft Remind us again what your full-time job is? What has my full-time job got to do with anything? Anyway since you asked, I'm a golf journaist/reporter earning well above the national average. How about yourself? Hope you proof read your articles before submission!! :sorry:
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Post by offtopic on Sept 2, 2011 9:57:26 GMT 1
backtobackchamps - as a Halifax Town ST holder you have obviously got a rather blinkered opinion of the guy. Richard Marshall, IMO, is an all-round better player than Jamie - Jamie is only stronger than him in the air - and Paul Walker at Garforth is twice the player. For you to say that he's a better player than Mackail-Smith when he left the conference is ludicrous. Did you see CMS play often did you? Pfft The lad is 24 years old and has just got his 'big move' to Fleetwood. There is a reason why he playing there, rather than a FL club and that is because he ain't good enough and won't be. I'm happy to eat my words should I be proven wrong but I'm sorry, it aint gonna happen. Yeah Yeah we get the message. You're great. Pfft Remind us again what your full-time job is? :iconlol:
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Post by wistula1920 on Sept 2, 2011 10:32:00 GMT 1
Yeah Yeah we get the message. You're great. Pfft Remind us again what your full-time job is? What has my full-time job got to do with anything? Anyway since you asked, I'm a golf journaist/reporter earning well above the national average. How about yourself? Ah, a pissing contest.....Ok i'll play along. I'm an IT consultant living and working in Davos, Switzerland (As a journo I am sure you will have heard of it. It's a millionaires play ground and I guarantee I am earning considerably more than you. Don't be a knob!! Just to clarify then......You're not a Professional footballer or a Football scout. As for your reference to Denton.......We all know that was a battle of two ego's and the loser was the kid himself. My blind uncle could see he wouldn't cut it. You sound like some bitter twisted soul who jealously eye's someone that is doing something you were never good enough to do.
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Post by Sheps on Sept 2, 2011 10:37:12 GMT 1
Can I nominate this for thread of the month please.
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