oosoul
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Post by oosoul on May 18, 2012 11:05:07 GMT 1
What are you wittering on about? I worked away from home all my life!!!! 70% of the prem players are FOREIGNERS, they have to adapt culturally, to the food, to the language. Leeds Bradford flys daily to Southampton, £70 return. He is from near Wembley anyway, its two hours on a train and he gets THREE months holiday a year. What family? He is not married. Christ, many people dont even have a family. What kind of molly-coddling, upbinging did you have? It should be MY blood boiling reading twaddle like that. He is 26, not 12!! When i was 14 i used to hitch-hike to London to watch town and when i was 17 i cycled to France to find work. Get a grip man, he has everything done for him, has loads of free time and plenty of options. Moving to work in Huddersfield should not affect his form, he is just poor. Hopefully you took a ferry too. He parted the sea |
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BoltonTerrier
Ray Wilson Terrier
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Post by BoltonTerrier on May 18, 2012 11:20:52 GMT 1
Hence the term Spread Betting. Named after Oti and his moses trick
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Post by blueb on May 18, 2012 11:48:19 GMT 1
Another one season wonder we've wasted a load of cash on. His career to date is non league yet one decent season seems to have convinced us to spend a fortune on him. He's shit, get rid, end of.
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Post by CaptainHart on May 18, 2012 11:59:52 GMT 1
He's almost certain to be on the bench next week and would probably be a penalty taker.
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nickhtafc
Tom Cowan Terrier
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Post by nickhtafc on May 18, 2012 12:01:17 GMT 1
I reckon he needs more time. Unfair to write him off just yet imho.
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benhomly
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Post by benhomly on May 18, 2012 12:43:29 GMT 1
Otium - clown?
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bugliner
Andy Booth Terrier
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Post by bugliner on May 18, 2012 12:44:14 GMT 1
think he has been very disappointing this season, but I think we might see a different player next season. arrived late and never really up to speed IMO. there are however many players who have done well here after a miserable start - parsley, Marsden, jepson to name but 3. Good god, Jepo was really, really crap when we first signed him. 6 months before we sold him to Blackburn for £1.3M, most of us (including myself) thought Jon Stead would never make it as a footballer, let alone score goals in the premier league. In the interest of balance I should also mention that Marcus Browning was crap when he first signed for us, and remained crap for the entire duration of his stay. To my mind, Robinson played very well for Bournemouth against us. Not as spectacular as Ings or McDermott, but class nonetheless. More important though - Bournemouth fans who had watched him all season rated him very, very highly. Maybe he was a one-season wonder? Or maybe this was his one disappointing season before tearing whichever division we're in a new a***hole. Maybe he's one of those players who would come good with a run in the team. I don't know. If we keep him, he'll get my backing & I hope he can recreate the form he showed for Bournemouth. If not, I won't be too upset to see him go. If he doesn't come back looking refreshed after the summer break then perhaps he'd benefit from a move out on loan somewhere? |
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Post by harrythedog on May 18, 2012 12:51:49 GMT 1
He was non-league two years ago and it shows, he's not a pro footballer IMO, but neither am I.
He is the only town player ever that I never ever want to see on the field and we've had some shockers.
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Post by duncanshearer on May 18, 2012 12:52:41 GMT 1
He is just a body on the pitch. Have seen him do 1 or 2 good things all season, not sure how he merits a place above Kay in the squad.
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Post by CaptainHart on May 18, 2012 13:27:54 GMT 1
He is just a body on the pitch. Have seen him do 1 or 2 good things all season, not sure how he merits a place above Kay in the squad. If we're starting with Johnson and Miller then it's his ability to run around. |
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Post by duncanshearer on May 18, 2012 13:41:08 GMT 1
Oh yes forgot he can run around, I saw him running around behind Alan Smith as he put that header in the other night. Hope he proves me wrong and does his thing on the Wembley turf when it matters, but on his recent showings you wouldn't want him alongside you in the trenches.
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Post by Jonny_11 on May 18, 2012 13:47:49 GMT 1
I really hope he comes good. Yes, I don't think he's had a good season at all but I really do think he has the talent. As someone mentioned on page 1, he's really quite strong and some of his tackles that he's made have been brilliant. Yes, he might not be the most positive of players, but I reckon with a decent pre-season under his belt and a steady run in the team, he'll earn his corn. Is he Championship quality? Probably not at the moment, and he's not that young, at 26/27 for a footballer, but I do think and hope he'll come good. He has to be better than Anthony Kay, anyway.
How about Oscar? Is he all that?
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Post by Jonny_11 on May 18, 2012 13:52:49 GMT 1
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Post by 3 pipe problem on May 18, 2012 14:03:26 GMT 1
Is this the same Lee Clark we're slagging off here who signed and brought through the players that have got us to Wembley to our second consecutive play-off final ?
There isn't a manager in the game who hasn't made a few errors in the transfer market.
Some of you are so naive and simplistic it's unbelievable.
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otium
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Post by otium on May 18, 2012 14:20:43 GMT 1
Deep, perceptive reasoning as usual. Now pull up your hood, turn-up your Dizzy Rascal and walk like a the gibbon that you are. |
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Post by Richard1986 on May 18, 2012 14:51:29 GMT 1
He has been rubbish every game. Difficult? Are you having a laugh? Leaving your family behind to go to Afghanistan, thats difficult. Comments like this make my blood boil. Of course it's difficult to up sticks and move your family 200 miles.  He's just moved up the M1 a bit, it's not that difficult. ------------------------------------------------------------- Just looks a very average player to me. Dwayne Mattis MK2 |
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Post by Captainslapper on May 18, 2012 17:16:28 GMT 1
Is this the same Lee Clark we're slagging off here who signed and brought through the players that have got us to Wembley to our second consecutive play-off final ? There isn't a manager in the game who hasn't made a few errors in the transfer market. Some of you are so naive and simplistic it's unbelievable. "A few' ? the majority of clarks signings ranged between 'disappointing' and 'shite'. He landed a few good ones and they ( one in particular) have done enough to carry us this far but Clarks ratio of good- bad signings wasn't great at all. Just looking at the league position is the simplistic view as it doesn't take the monumental wastes of money we've been saddled with whilst achieving it into account, Robinson being a classic example (so far). Im glad Hoyle didn't take such a simplistic view and realised we needed a change- a decision thats already paid off, whatever happens week on saturday. |
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Post by 3 pipe problem on May 18, 2012 17:38:44 GMT 1
Monumental ?
Do you ever make a post without using exaggeration to highlight your misguided opinion ?
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Post by tterrier on May 18, 2012 17:56:33 GMT 1
Is this the same Lee Clark we're slagging off here who signed and brought through the players that have got us to Wembley to our second consecutive play-off final ? There isn't a manager in the game who hasn't made a few errors in the transfer market. Some of you are so naive and simplistic it's unbelievable. "A few' ? the majority of clarks signings ranged between 'disappointing' and 'shite'. He landed a few good ones and they ( one in particular) have done enough to carry us this far but Clarks ratio of good- bad signings wasn't great at all. Just looking at the league position is the simplistic view as it doesn't take the monumental wastes of money we've been saddled with whilst achieving it into account, Robinson being a classic example (so far). Im glad Hoyle didn't take such a simplistic view and realised we needed a change- a decision thats already paid off, whatever happens week on saturday. Spot on. To me Clark made 6 class signings. Jordan, Pilks, Peltier, Johnson, Peter Clark & Higginbotham (very early to say) We have the highest wage bill in league 1, which got us 3rd and 4th place respectively. Clark's transfer policy looked to me like sign anyone who plays well against us and get some premier league youngsters in on loan. As well as getting the Falkirk first team squad in. Tell me, has Danny Ward done anything this season to warrant his million pound price tag? 90% of his signings we're over hyped, over rated doggers. |
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Post by Captainslapper on May 18, 2012 18:00:12 GMT 1
If Id spent hundreds of thousands on each of the likes of Lee, Robinson, Simpson, Ainsworth etc etc then id be calling it a monumental waste of my money. What would you call it- a bit of a whoopsy?
Loving the way anyone who disagrees with your view is simplistic and naive.
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Post by Guest on May 18, 2012 18:01:23 GMT 1
"A few' ? the majority of clarks signings ranged between 'disappointing' and 'shite'. He landed a few good ones and they ( one in particular) have done enough to carry us this far but Clarks ratio of good- bad signings wasn't great at all. Just looking at the league position is the simplistic view as it doesn't take the monumental wastes of money we've been saddled with whilst achieving it into account, Robinson being a classic example (so far). Im glad Hoyle didn't take such a simplistic view and realised we needed a change- a decision thats already paid off, whatever happens week on saturday. Spot on. To me Clark made 6 class signings. Jordan, Pilks, Peltier, Johnson, Peter Clark & Higginbotham (very early to say) We have the highest wage bill in league 1, which got us 3rd and 4th place respectively. Clark's transfer policy looked to me like sign anyone who plays well against us and get some premier league youngsters in on loan. As well as getting the Falkirk first team squad in. Tell me, has Danny Ward done anything this season to warrant his million pound price tag? 90% of his signings we're over hyped, over rated doggers. Danny Ward and a few others have been poor,but it was Dean and Clibbens who sort the transfer fees and wages out not Clark. Here's how it works Clark say's to Dean "i'd like to sign Danny Ward" Dean then phone's or send's Bolton a fax and they start to talk cash. |
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byheck
Darren Bullock Terrier
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Post by byheck on May 18, 2012 18:06:38 GMT 1
How many times do you see a player who plays well for one club!! gets a tranfser and then he's crap.
They can be several factors for this, including players who cant/dont settle, but i think its a case of Bournesmouth style suited him better.
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Post by fitzyblue on May 18, 2012 18:16:00 GMT 1
If Id spent hundreds of thousands on each of the likes of Lee, Robinson, Simpson, Ainsworth etc etc then id be calling it a monumental waste of my money. What would you call it- a bit of a whoopsy? Loving the way anyone who disagrees with your view is simplistic and naive. only simpson a mistake in that list cap'n |
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Post by Captainslapper on May 18, 2012 18:23:14 GMT 1
If Id spent hundreds of thousands on each of the likes of Lee, Robinson, Simpson, Ainsworth etc etc then id be calling it a monumental waste of my money. What would you call it- a bit of a whoopsy? Loving the way anyone who disagrees with your view is simplistic and naive. only simpson a mistake in that list cap'n REALLY!? Ainsworth wasn't a mistake? £250k wasn't it? Robinson- Ive heard £400k mentioned. He could still turn it around but so far he hasn't justified ANY of that. Lee £450k I think. BIG wages. 7 league goals and 0 league assists in 2 seasons? Again could get the goal that takes us up, but as we speak hes been a massive waste of money. |
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Post by fitzyblue on May 18, 2012 18:29:52 GMT 1
only simpson a mistake in that list cap'n REALLY!? Ainsworth wasn't a mistake? £250k wasn't it? Robinson- Ive heard £400k mentioned. He could still turn it around but so far he hasn't justified ANY of that. Lee £450k I think. BIG wages. 7 league goals and 0 league assists in 2 seasons? Again could get the goal that takes us up, but as we speak hes been a massive waste of money. hindsight reveals ainsworth a mistake, at the time he was smashing it up in the lower leagues.that rare commodity of blistering pace.we beat a few to his signature.its only the lad himself who 's pissed that talent away.agree re robbo,not justified it yet and thats a puzzle.re alan lee,was nt that the player this board were crying out for after our bullyed games? experienced older head type to take jordan s knocks? ( i ve never been a fan of lee's by the way) |
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Post by Captainslapper on May 18, 2012 18:32:17 GMT 1
Think this board was and theyd have been right. We certainly needed a big bruising centre forward option. The point is though that the one we got hasn't turned out to be very good, especially considering the outlay.
If he scores the winner next week I'll love him forever though!!
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Post by fitzyblue on May 18, 2012 18:35:49 GMT 1
Think this board was and theyd have been right. We certainly needed a big bruising centre forward option. The point is though that the one we got hasn't turned out to be very good, especially considering the outlay. If he scores the winner next week I'll love him forever though!! never rated him but thought he d be damn good in grinding us out of this division.simpson s the only major mistake imo as LC had his knickers pulled down by his old mate coleman :nodding: |
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Post by 3 pipe problem on May 18, 2012 18:50:06 GMT 1
If Id spent hundreds of thousands on each of the likes of Lee, Robinson, Simpson, Ainsworth etc etc then id be calling it a monumental waste of my money. What would you call it- a bit of a whoopsy? Loving the way anyone who disagrees with your view is simplistic and naive. I'd be looking at the bigger picture ie the millions he's made off Pilkington and Peltier, the potential multi-millions we could make on Rhodes and the smaller profits made on players like McDermott and factor those in to the hundreds of thousands he's spent on other signings, players who whilst not always being spectacular will have largely done a good job for the club. See what I'm doing there ? I'm comparing millions in profits to hundreds of thousands in outlay. That is why your view is simplistic. You are naive in the extreme to expect every signing made by a manager to be an instant success. It's got nothing to do with whether I agree with you or not. You exaggerate and ignore to suit your own agenda but it doesn't wash with me. And that's before we even get into the territory of who actually agrees a fee and sanctions a signing and a wage structure. I'm happy with the manager we've got, for me Lee Clark is water under the bridge .. I moved on months ago, like many. It is what it is. Lee Clark gave our club 100%, he signed and brought through the players that have got us to Wembley to our second consecutive play-off final. There's always someone ready to have a cheap shot at a bloke who's lost his job and I'll pop up now and again to try to redress the balance. I say 'try' because there's none so blind that will not see. |
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Post by fitzyblue on May 18, 2012 18:53:48 GMT 1
spot on the greedy pipe man :appl:
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Post by thrice on May 18, 2012 19:19:37 GMT 1
The club never even threatened to make a dime during Clark's reign.
Cast your eye over our accounts.
Trying to make any sort of financial argument for Clark is bizarre!
He came, he spunked, he failed and we have moved on.
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