mkterrier
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Post by mkterrier on Jul 7, 2012 16:00:32 GMT 1
What about Lee Clark - didn't exactly pussy foot around the Pharm did he?
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Post by arterrier on Jul 7, 2012 16:02:19 GMT 1
Total cock end the guy has no style or gravitas,long ball wanker who is a dinosaur,bit like Stan Turnip.
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Post by Coddingtontripper on Jul 7, 2012 16:03:35 GMT 1
Westley is a grade A prick m. Fact! That's as maybe, Lee Clark rendered him 'armless' though. ;D |
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Post by Giggity on Jul 7, 2012 16:19:21 GMT 1
Westley might be a throwback from the 70s/80s but the man is a reprobate. He should at least have the integrity to tell the players face to face, not through the medium of text messaging.
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Post by Coddingtontripper on Jul 7, 2012 16:32:43 GMT 1
Westley might be a throwback from the 70s/80s but the man is a reprobate. He should at least have the integrity to tell the players face to face, not through the medium of text messaging. Tell them what Giggity? read it through and let it sink in, he says they already know they have no future at Preston, they have been told previously. It's about training schedules, hardly needs to be face to face surely  Edit....Iwasn't thinking about being a throwback to the 70s and 80s, more 50s and 60s Come back Stan Cullis!! :iconlol: |
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Post by TerrierArmy on Jul 7, 2012 16:45:59 GMT 1
How isn't he failing? P21 W3 D8 L10 That aint success! Not everything can be based on statistics for goodness sake. You can prove absolutely anything you want with numbers, they are easy to manipulate. If this board would have been around when Warnock first came in, you'd been putting these same short term viewpoint statistics saying he was rubbish (like you did with Grayson), yet not even once looking at the long term. |
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Mr.X
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Post by Mr.X on Jul 7, 2012 16:55:45 GMT 1
I don't see much wrong with the text......it was only a "touch base" reminder that the shouldn't turn up for pre-season. He can't be too bad of a manager if you take into account the number of Players (majority of whom have worked with him before) that are willing to sign for HIM, let's face it, it's not like Preston are in a position to offer megabucks. He does come across as a massive Bellend though!! Touch base? He'll be touching cloth when they are bottom third in November and Ridsdale relises he's employed and anachronistic arse. In this day and age you have to be a little cleverer about your communications I think or, as in this case, they will be used to show you up. If his Preston clearout fails who do you think would employ him after how he has allowed himself to be portrayed? |
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Post by oosoul on Jul 7, 2012 17:19:12 GMT 1
How isn't he failing? P21 W3 D8 L10 That aint success! Not everything can be based on statistics for goodness sake. You can prove absolutely anything you want with numbers, they are easy to manipulate. If this board would have been around when Warnock first came in, you'd been putting these same short term viewpoint statistics saying he was rubbish (like you did with Grayson), yet not even once looking at the long term. It's all in the past now, there is NO WAY specialun will drag up a P: W-D-L comparison this season between Town and Birmingham to try and illustrate how he was right all along about Lee Clark . Well not unless Birmingham get off to a much better start than us anyway  |
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Post by royalflush on Jul 7, 2012 17:20:59 GMT 1
Are these 8 players all out of contract or have some of them just been transfer listed with years remaining? He has no right under contract to tell them not to turn up if they are still contracted to PNE...had that right existed, we wouldn't have had the issues that we did with Lucketti...it's too simple and illegal to refuse to acknowledge contracts!
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Post by Coddingtontripper on Jul 7, 2012 17:21:12 GMT 1
I don't see much wrong with the text......it was only a "touch base" reminder that the shouldn't turn up for pre-season. He can't be too bad of a manager if you take into account the number of Players (majority of whom have worked with him before) that are willing to sign for HIM, let's face it, it's not like Preston are in a position to offer megabucks. He does come across as a massive Bellend though!! Touch base? He'll be touching cloth when they are bottom third in November and Ridsdale relises he's employed and anachronistic arse. In this day and age you have to be a little cleverer about your communications I think or, as in this case, they will be used to show you up. If his Preston clearout fails who do you think would employ him after how he has allowed himself to be portrayed? Stevenage? I still don't see the problem As someone else noted, let's talk about telephone calls ;D |
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Post by Coddingtontripper on Jul 7, 2012 17:23:24 GMT 1
Are these 8 players all out of contract or have some of them just been transfer listed with years remaining? He has no right under contract to tell them not to turn up if they are still contracted to PNE...had that right existed, we wouldn't have had the issues that we did with Lucketti...it's too simple and illegal to refuse to acknowledge contracts! Of course he can tell them not to turn up, he doesn't mention not paying their salaries does he?? Edit.....It's pretty obvious he doesn't want them around the club potentially upsetting the "happy camp" |
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Post by royalflush on Jul 7, 2012 17:26:19 GMT 1
so you think tight a rse Ridsdale will be happy for PNE to continue to pay salaries for 8 players who aren't even training?? Will he rollox!
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Post by Giggity on Jul 7, 2012 17:28:00 GMT 1
Westley might be a throwback from the 70s/80s but the man is a reprobate. He should at least have the integrity to tell the players face to face, not through the medium of text messaging. Tell them what Giggity? read it through and let it sink in, he says they already know they have no future at Preston, they have been told previously. It's about training schedules, hardly needs to be face to face surely Edit....Iwasn't thinking about being a throwback to the 70s and 80s, more 50s and 60s Come back Stan Cullis!!  The contents of the text message. Texting the ostracised players that news is the embodiment of cowardice. A face to face meeting would have been a professional measure that may have gained him some respect from the 'outcasts'. Instead, he resorted to petulance. No wonder Richard Wright left the club after only one week. Family reasons? Give over. |
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Post by Coddingtontripper on Jul 7, 2012 17:34:54 GMT 1
Tell them what Giggity? read it through and let it sink in, he says they already know they have no future at Preston, they have been told previously. It's about training schedules, hardly needs to be face to face surely Edit....Iwasn't thinking about being a throwback to the 70s and 80s, more 50s and 60s Come back Stan Cullis!! The contents of the text message. Texting the ostracised players that news is the embodiment of cowardice. A face to face meeting would have been a professional measure that may have gained him some respect from the 'outcasts'. Instead, he resorted to petulance. No wonder Richard Wright left the club after only one week. Family reasons? Give over. What news?? Training schedules seperate from the rest of the squad is all, just confirming timings of something THEY ALREADY KNEW!!! |
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Jul 7, 2012 17:35:17 GMT 1
Tell them what Giggity? read it through and let it sink in, he says they already know they have no future at Preston, they have been told previously. It's about training schedules, hardly needs to be face to face surely Edit....Iwasn't thinking about being a throwback to the 70s and 80s, more 50s and 60s Come back Stan Cullis!! The contents of the text message. Texting the ostracised players that news is the embodiment of cowardice. A face to face meeting would have been a professional measure that may have gained him some respect from the 'outcasts'. Instead, he resorted to petulance. No wonder Richard Wright left the club after only one week. Family reasons? Give over. As Town fans we really shouldn't be pointing fingers when talking about face to face professionalism. |
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Post by Coddingtontripper on Jul 7, 2012 17:36:45 GMT 1
so you think tight a rse Ridsdale will be happy for PNE to continue to pay salaries for 8 players who aren't even training?? Will he rollox! Read it again and digest, where does it say they aren't training?? |
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Post by Doug Jardine on Jul 7, 2012 17:39:02 GMT 1
I think he (Westley) should remember, that the players, that he regards as obsolete, are still human beings with feelings. I fully understand that football is a cut throat business, with each team's manager wanting the "best players", but to treat your staff many with mortgages & young children in such a way is appalling. They are human beings first & foremost, I understand the need for a revolving door, but show some respect for people
Question: How would you like to receive a text message over the weekend from your manager "telling you that your sacked"
At least have the integrity to tell the person to their faces, that your moving them on
I hope he ends up on a losing end of an industrial tribunal
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Post by canuckterrier on Jul 7, 2012 17:47:55 GMT 1
Westley might be a throwback from the 70s/80s but the man is a reprobate. He should at least have the integrity to tell the players face to face, not through the medium of text messaging. Tell them what Giggity? read it through and let it sink in, he says they already know they have no future at Preston, they have been told previously. It's about training schedules, hardly needs to be face to face surely Edit....Iwasn't thinking about being a throwback to the 70s and 80s, more 50s and 60s Come back Stan Cullis!! Now there's a blast from the past. A great Wolves team that was. My most exciting game was that Wolves cup match under the Denis Law lights. Suddenly I feel very old, sigh. |
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Post by Coddingtontripper on Jul 7, 2012 17:49:40 GMT 1
I think he (Westley) should remember, that the players, that he regards as obsolete, are still human beings with feelings. I fully understand that football is a cut throat business, with each team's manager wanting the "best players", but to treat your staff many with mortgages & young children in such a way is appalling. They are human beings first & foremost, I understand the need for a revolving door, but show some respect for people Question: How would you like to receive a text message over the weekend from your manager "telling you that your sacked" At least have the integrity to tell the person to their faces, that your moving them on I hope he ends up on a losing end of an industrial tribunal This is the text message read it and tell me where it says they are sacked!! Pay attention to "As you have previously been told" |
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Post by Coddingtontripper on Jul 7, 2012 17:51:57 GMT 1
Tell them what Giggity? read it through and let it sink in, he says they already know they have no future at Preston, they have been told previously. It's about training schedules, hardly needs to be face to face surely Edit....Iwasn't thinking about being a throwback to the 70s and 80s, more 50s and 60s Come back Stan Cullis!! Now there's a blast from the past. A great Wolves team that was. My most exciting game was that Wolves cup match under the Denis Law lights. Suddenly I feel very old, sigh. Me too mate i was there as well, gawd my aching bones. :iconlol: |
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Post by townfan03 on Jul 7, 2012 17:53:26 GMT 1
The contents of the text message. Texting the ostracised players that news is the embodiment of cowardice. A face to face meeting would have been a professional measure that may have gained him some respect from the 'outcasts'. Instead, he resorted to petulance. No wonder Richard Wright left the club after only one week. Family reasons? Give over. As Town fans we really shouldn't be pointing fingers when talking about face to face professionalism. Brave thing to say around here! :giggle: |
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Post by royalflush on Jul 7, 2012 17:57:46 GMT 1
so you think tight a rse Ridsdale will be happy for PNE to continue to pay salaries for 8 players who aren't even training?? Will he rollox! Read it again and digest, where does it say they aren't training?? Not training with the first team squad....ergo ostracised...also Hulme and Coutts will be two of the biggest earners....pretty obvious to most of us that they won't be a part of it....and I doubt Westley will even acknowledge them....hope and suspect that they will go down! |
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Post by royalflush on Jul 7, 2012 17:59:17 GMT 1
He also expects them to have left.....if they have two years left on their contract, why the feck should they??! They should sit in the stands and drain the funds....
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Post by Coddingtontripper on Jul 7, 2012 18:01:59 GMT 1
He also expects them to have left.....if they have two years left on their contract, why the feck should they??! They should sit in the stands and drain the funds.... That's their perogative Lucketti style. ;D Providing their happy not playing football. We'll see if Kay, McCombe feel that way.............won't we? |
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Post by bugliner on Jul 7, 2012 18:42:59 GMT 1
I think he (Westley) should remember, that the players, that he regards as obsolete, are still human beings with feelings. I fully understand that football is a cut throat business, with each team's manager wanting the "best players", but to treat your staff many with mortgages & young children in such a way is appalling. They are human beings first & foremost, I understand the need for a revolving door, but show some respect for people Question: How would you like to receive a text message over the weekend from your manager "telling you that your sacked" At least have the integrity to tell the person to their faces, that your moving them on I hope he ends up on a losing end of an industrial tribunal In an ideal world I'd agree with you, but in industry the employees are also human beings with feelings, families to support, bills to pay etc. That doesn't stop people being sacked for underperforming, or even for just not getting on very well with their boss. I'm surprised by how open & blatant/honest* he's been about it - usually these things would be dealt with behind closed doors, more subtly/sneakily*. The Preston players have been told face to face (note the wording of the text - "as you've already been told"). Nobody would want to be sacked like that, because nobody wants to be sacked. Westley might be blunt, but at least he's honest. He's given them clear instructions on what is expected of them & what they have permission to do. *delete according to your view. I wouldn't be surprised to see PNE take automatic. |
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Post by bugliner on Jul 7, 2012 18:47:18 GMT 1
He also expects them to have left.....if they have two years left on their contract, why the feck should they??! They should sit in the stands and drain the funds.... That's their perogative Lucketti style. ;D Providing their happy not playing football. We'll see if Kay, McCombe feel that way.............won't we? Those who have a realistic chance of getting a contract elsewhere will harm their chances of getting themselves something decent fixed up if they are content to just sit in the stands collecting a wage. Who (even a few divisions below) would employ somebody like that? Those who are most likely in their last contract anyway might be more tempted. I haven't looked at who is amongst the 8 released, but if there is somebody approaching retirement age with another year or 2 on the contract I wouldn't be surprised if they chose to remain on their contract. Sitting in the stands might not be the wisest move though!! |
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Post by Doug Jardine on Jul 7, 2012 19:02:05 GMT 1
I think he (Westley) should remember, that the players, that he regards as obsolete, are still human beings with feelings. I fully understand that football is a cut throat business, with each team's manager wanting the "best players", but to treat your staff many with mortgages & young children in such a way is appalling. They are human beings first & foremost, I understand the need for a revolving door, but show some respect for people Question: How would you like to receive a text message over the weekend from your manager "telling you that your sacked" At least have the integrity to tell the person to their faces, that your moving them on I hope he ends up on a losing end of an industrial tribunal In an ideal world I'd agree with you, but in industry the employees are also human beings with feelings, families to support, bills to pay etc. That doesn't stop people being sacked for underperforming, or even for just not getting on very well with their boss. I'm surprised by how open & blatant/honest* he's been about it - usually these things would be dealt with behind closed doors, more subtly/sneakily*. The Preston players have been told face to face (note the wording of the text - "as you've already been told"). Nobody would want to be sacked like that, because nobody wants to be sacked. Westley might be blunt, but at least he's honest. He's given them clear instructions on what is expected of them & what they have permission to do. *delete according to your view. I wouldn't be surprised to see PNE take automatic. Don't disagree with what you've said, football is a business same as any business organisation, but what I do have an issue with is the use of a mobile text. I know the price of stamps have gone up, but to not have the courtesy to put this in an formal letter, shows a lack of integrity. |
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Post by Coddingtontripper on Jul 7, 2012 19:19:31 GMT 1
In an ideal world I'd agree with you, but in industry the employees are also human beings with feelings, families to support, bills to pay etc. That doesn't stop people being sacked for underperforming, or even for just not getting on very well with their boss. I'm surprised by how open & blatant/honest* he's been about it - usually these things would be dealt with behind closed doors, more subtly/sneakily*. The Preston players have been told face to face (note the wording of the text - "as you've already been told"). Nobody would want to be sacked like that, because nobody wants to be sacked. Westley might be blunt, but at least he's honest. He's given them clear instructions on what is expected of them & what they have permission to do. *delete according to your view. I wouldn't be surprised to see PNE take automatic. Don't disagree with what you've said, football is a business same as any business organisation, but what I do have an issue with is the use of a mobile text. I know the price of stamps have gone up, but to not have the courtesy to put this in an formal letter, shows a lack of integrity. If the text was to inform the individuals concerned they were sacked i would 100% agree with you. The thing is it wasn't, it was a simple text basically telling them when their specific training begins and that further details will be communicated nearer the time, possibly in letter form you would think. Not such a big deal. IMO |
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Post by Ward in horrid boots shocker on Jul 7, 2012 21:08:56 GMT 1
That is terrible, get them together or a least phone and speak to the players. If a manager of mine did that to me I'd bloody plant them. Classless prick
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Post by popterriertastic on Jul 7, 2012 21:17:15 GMT 1
If you have Risdale and Wesley together you are allowed to expect the very very worst to happen
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