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Post by Guest on Jul 9, 2012 18:22:31 GMT 1
Daily mirror today saying Grayson to swoop and £600k. I don't believe we want him and I don't believe we would pay anything like that if we did.
My apologies to those who might go mad because at some point in the last month there has been a Peltier thread which I haven't dug up and used for this post !! :suicide:
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Post by darksideofthemoon on Jul 9, 2012 18:49:29 GMT 1
hope its true need a good right back
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Post by grist on Jul 9, 2012 18:56:16 GMT 1
hope its true need a good right back No we don't, and you can just about guarantee that we would not spend anywhere near £600,000 on him, and it would not be for right back if we did sign him.
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Post by Condescending Terrier on Jul 9, 2012 19:05:38 GMT 1
hope its true need a good right back No we don't, and you can just about guarantee that we would not spend anywhere near £600,000 on him, and it would not be for right back if we did sign him. My thoughts exactly. Couldn't see us paying so much and would more likely see him as the defensive midfielder in a 4:4:3, in particular for covering our marauding fullbacks. Nothing to say we'll be playing that formation though. Edit- I'm not amending my post to cover my blunder, I enjoy humiliation 
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Post by niggled on Jul 9, 2012 19:07:54 GMT 1
i really think we will walk this league if we play 443 , 
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Post by Condescending Terrier on Jul 9, 2012 19:10:25 GMT 1
i really think we will walk this league if we play 443 ,  Ha. We're passing on a goalie. Meant 4:3:3.
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Post by niggled on Jul 9, 2012 19:17:05 GMT 1
goalie when needed. now your onto something :iconlol:
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Post by The Daddy on Jul 9, 2012 19:42:40 GMT 1
if we had a sell on clause it could be like a free??sign the cheque then get one right back
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Post by Berty of Cleck. on Jul 9, 2012 19:46:49 GMT 1
i really think we will walk this league if we play 443 ,  Ha. We're passing on a goalie. Meant 4:3:3. Not a cat in hells chance of playing 3 up front. 2 at best and sometimes 1.
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Jul 9, 2012 19:48:25 GMT 1
I would be more than happy to see Pelts back playing as the anchor man in CM behind Norwood & Clayton, or as CB, especially if Larry was going to play 3 CBs
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Post by Berty of Cleck. on Jul 9, 2012 19:54:16 GMT 1
I would be more than happy to see Pelts back playing as the anchor man in CM behind Norwood & Clayton, or as CB, especially if Larry was going to play 3 CBs I have a feeling that Pelts could be a replacement for Birmingham bound Hunt. Not heard anything, just get the feeling.
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Jul 9, 2012 19:56:58 GMT 1
I would be more than happy to see Pelts back playing as the anchor man in CM behind Norwood & Clayton, or as CB, especially if Larry was going to play 3 CBs I have a feeling that Pelts could be a replacement for Birmingham bound Hunt. Not heard anything, just get the feeling. Fair enough, if Hunt has to go I doubt we'd get a better replacement
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Post by Condescending Terrier on Jul 9, 2012 20:11:30 GMT 1
Ha. We're passing on a goalie. Meant 4:3:3. Not a cat in hells chance of playing 3 up front. 2 at best and sometimes 1. It doesn't mean you literally have three strikers.
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Post by Captainslapper on Jul 9, 2012 20:14:19 GMT 1
Think theres more chance of Rhodes going than Hunt at this moment in time, especially to a Championship rival. Didn't he just sign a contract extension a few weeks ago anyway? Peltiers a decent player ,just not in a position we need and certainly not for £600k
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Post by PaulDaltonFanClub on Jul 9, 2012 20:14:54 GMT 1
I have a feeling that Pelts could be a replacement for Birmingham bound Hunt. Not heard anything, just get the feeling. Fair enough, if Hunt has to go I doubt we'd get a better replacement Have they got the cheddar for someone like Hunt? He's got to be worth 2mil at least! I'd have Pelts as DM, he's got all he needs to be there, pace, aerial ability, tackle, passing range! Well worth 500k in my book!
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Post by catterickterrier on Jul 9, 2012 20:17:50 GMT 1
Where has 600k suddenly come from when a week ago Leeds had him signed up for 350?
Also if we sign him do we get our sell on fee?
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Post by shawsie on Jul 9, 2012 20:21:02 GMT 1
Why do you think that cap'n? If Jordan is going anywhere then it's surely to the top flight, given his goals at every level he has ever played over 2/3 yrs now. Hunt on the other hand had a good start and end to his only season at this level, but was rather poor in the middle. As for 600k being too big a fee? We got c1m for him last summer and he spent last season proving he could cut it at the higher level - good business IMO........providing he is coming to be a starter and not back up for a few positions.
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Post by Captainslapper on Jul 9, 2012 20:22:31 GMT 1
Fair enough, if Hunt has to go I doubt we'd get a better replacement Have they got the cheddar for someone like Hunt? He's got to be worth 2mil at least! I'd have Pelts as DM, he's got all he needs to be there, pace, aerial ability, tackle, passing range! Well worth 500k in my book! Has this improved since he left, because this was one thing i always thought he needed to really work on, along with his crossing.
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Post by shawsie on Jul 9, 2012 20:25:39 GMT 1
His crossing was fine in year 1 then he wasn't allowed over the halfway line in his second!!!
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Post by PaulDaltonFanClub on Jul 9, 2012 20:30:52 GMT 1
I don't think his passing was that bad Slaps when he was playing that central role, albeit briefly. Anyway, with Norwood and Clayton in front of him all he'd have to do once he'd won the ball is play it ten feet to one of them! Even he couldn't get that wrong! 
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Post by Captainslapper on Jul 9, 2012 20:32:39 GMT 1
Why do you think that cap'n? If Jordan is going anywhere then it's surely to the top flight, given his goals at every level he has ever played over 2/3 yrs now. Hunt on the other hand had a good start and end to his only season at this level, but was rather poor in the middle. As for 600k being too big a fee? We got c1m for him last summer and he spent last season proving he could cut it at the higher level - good business IMO........providing he is coming to be a starter and not back up for a few positions. I think we'd be more likely to sell Rhodes because the money we'd get would really make a difference, whereas the money we'd get for Hunt at the moment- maybe not so much, so perhaps not worthwhile selling. Rhodes's value is around the max you'd expect for a striker who hasn't proved himself in the prem already, even though hes yet to do the business in the championship. Even if he has a good season and bags 20 this season, i can't see his price going much higher than the sort of figures being mentioned now, £ 7 or 8m. If Hunt has a good season , I can see his value doubling so its not a sensible time to sell IMO. I heard we got about £800k for Peltier but maybe it was more. Think £400k would be a more accurate valuation for him and that was about the figure being mentioned when he was supposed to be going to Leeds. We bought him for £150k off Yeovil, and I honestly don't think he improved as a player in the time he was with us. So the price we got for him was superb IMO. Has he proved himself at championship level yet though- if leicester want to ditch him after only one year for half what they paid for him? Doesn't seem to be what clubs do with a player who's done the business to me.
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Post by Captainslapper on Jul 9, 2012 20:38:13 GMT 1
His crossing was fine in year 1 then he wasn't allowed over the halfway line in his second!!! Honestly I never thought his crossing was anything other than poor. Always hit the first defender. Bit frustrating as its something that can be improved with practice and coaching, but it never seemed to get better. Which season was that 3-0 loss at Rochdale? pelts must have got in a great position to cross it 2 dozen times in that game and cocked up every single one. Like someone says, If we are interested in him I can only see it as a ball winning, tenacious defensive midfielder. But that would seem an odd signing as i don't think hes played that role for Leicester and only did briefly for us, so I wonder how Grayson would even know hes capable of it.
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Post by Giggity on Jul 9, 2012 20:41:01 GMT 1
I don't think he is needed. He would be a waste of a salary. We already have Dixon, Hunt, Woods, T.Clarke and Ridehalgh that can fill in at wing back.
He is not good enough for center midfield. He has played <15 games in that position in his entire career yet folk think he is good enough. Laughable. He was temporary solution in center midfield, not a permanent fixture. He hasn't got the passing ability, awareness, vision or positioning to play there. We already have Kay and Robinson that don't possess those traits.
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Post by terrierng on Jul 9, 2012 20:41:43 GMT 1
Why do you think that cap'n? If Jordan is going anywhere then it's surely to the top flight, given his goals at every level he has ever played over 2/3 yrs now. Hunt on the other hand had a good start and end to his only season at this level, but was rather poor in the middle. As for 600k being too big a fee? We got c1m for him last summer and he spent last season proving he could cut it at the higher level - good business IMO........providing he is coming to be a starter and not back up for a few positions. I think we'd be more likely to sell Rhodes because the money we'd get would really make a difference, whereas the money we'd get for Hunt at the moment- maybe not so much, so perhaps not worthwhile selling. Rhodes's value is around the max you'd expect for a striker who hasn't proved himself in the prem already, even though hes yet to do the business in the championship. Even if he has a good season and bags 20 this season, i can't see his price going much higher than the sort of figures being mentioned now, £ 7 or 8m. If Hunt has a good season , I can see his value doubling so its not a sensible time to sell IMO. I heard we got about £800k for Peltier but maybe it was more. Think £400k would be a more accurate valuation for him and that was about the figure being mentioned when he was supposed to be going to Leeds. We bought him for £150k off Yeovil, and I honestly don't think he improved as a player in the time he was with us. So the price we got for him was superb IMO. Has he proved himself at championship level yet though- if leicester want to ditch him after only one year for half what they paid for him? Doesn't seem to be what clubs do with a player who's done the business to me.[/quot how can you value a player at half his value when sold even though he played at a higher level and most of the games? was he overvalued by us cos surely he didnt get twice as shit playing in the championship rather than league 1? 
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Post by garyroberts'leftfoot on Jul 9, 2012 20:42:31 GMT 1
His crossing was fine in year 1 then he wasn't allowed over the halfway line in his second!!! Honestly I never thought his crossing was anything other than poor. Always hit the first defender. Bit frustrating as its something that can be improved with practice and coaching, but it never seemed to get better. Which season was that 3-0 loss at Rochdale? pelts must have got in a great position to cross it 2 dozen times in that game and cocked up every single one. Like someone says, If we are interested in him I can only see it as a ball winning, tenacious defensive midfielder. But that would seem an odd signing as i don't think hes played that role for Leicester and only did briefly for us, so I wonder how Grayson would even know hes capable of it. Completely agree on the crossing. Hunt can still improve a fair bit but his crossing is considerably better. 11 assists for Hunt last season. 3 for Peltier the season before 1 the season before.
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Post by PaulDaltonFanClub on Jul 9, 2012 20:44:19 GMT 1
I think on the balance of things I'd much rather spend 500k on a proven Def Mid than on Pelts, as much of a fan as I am of him!
I'd love to see a late 20's/early 30's proven ball winner behind Norwood and Clayton, what a bloody midfield that would be!
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Post by Captainslapper on Jul 9, 2012 20:45:29 GMT 1
Its Leicester that have valued him at half what they paid for him if thats is indeed what they're wanting, so I agree it seems odd when hes just played a season in a higher division. It can only really mean they don't rate him as much as they first thought, or perhaps they realise they paid WAY over the odds for him. Guessing, but its probably a bit of both.
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Post by terrierng on Jul 9, 2012 20:49:40 GMT 1
Its Leicester that have valued him at half what they paid for him if thats is indeed what they're wanting, so I agree it seems odd when hes just played a season in a higher division. It can only really mean they don't rate him as much as they first thought, or perhaps they realise they paid WAY over the odds for him. Guessing, but its probably a bit of both. fair enough,but at 400k someone will get a decent rb. unless we sell hunt,a mistake imo, i wouldnt be going for him,not too convinced he could do a job in midfield for longer than a few games.
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Post by Captainslapper on Jul 9, 2012 20:55:06 GMT 1
Agree, if we did sell Hunt, then 400k for pelts would be a great replacement.
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Post by shawsie on Jul 9, 2012 20:56:53 GMT 1
Its Leicester that have valued him at half what they paid for him if thats is indeed what they're wanting, so I agree it seems odd when hes just played a season in a higher division. It can only really mean they don't rate him as much as they first thought, or perhaps they realise they paid WAY over the odds for him. Guessing, but its probably a bit of both. I take your point slapps - but v odd that a player who made over 40 appearances last season is being sold at cut price??.... Particularly when you look at the fact he kept a former prem player in pantsil out of the team.
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