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Post by exilepaul on Jul 10, 2012 7:04:56 GMT 1
.......SG has stated he is keen to get new players in for the start of pre-season & obviously Mr Cribbens is working on that but where does that leave the contract extension offers that are currently outstanding?!? Am I right in thinking it's just Alan Lee left to sign or are there others?
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Post by Steel Panther on Jul 10, 2012 7:20:24 GMT 1
Bennett, Clarke and Allinson have all signed so it's just Lee who we are yet to find out about. Personally I can't see him staying
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Post by aksaiblue on Jul 10, 2012 7:27:34 GMT 1
He is leaving it a little late
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Post by catterickterrier on Jul 10, 2012 7:47:02 GMT 1
He is doing my head in
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Post by Chicken George on Jul 10, 2012 8:42:39 GMT 1
For me, they have all had ample time so the offer houd be withdrawn and all parties move on
Can't have transfer plans put on hold because one player can't make up his mind
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Post by hd7terrier on Jul 10, 2012 9:06:19 GMT 1
:appl: I totally agree, Lee has had plenty of time to make his mind up. Grayson needs to advise him that the offer is no longer on the table. I was one of the few on here that was happy that he was offered a new contract as I thought he had something to offer (even in the Championship) but this is taking the piss now.
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Post by specialun on Jul 10, 2012 9:09:40 GMT 1
Deadline and move on. Simple.
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Post by andy112 on Jul 10, 2012 9:13:49 GMT 1
Think Grayson has got his priorities bang on. More than renewing the contracts of players who can "do a job" for us, he's put first and foremost getting bodies through the door who will make us competitive at this level. I'd like Lee to maybe be given another 12 months to see what he can do, but if not, I won't be overly upset. Only one I was bothered about really was Bennett and that's done.
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Post by Guest on Jul 10, 2012 9:24:43 GMT 1
The timetable and conditions under which terms of re engagement are offered is not controlled by HTFC, they're mandated by the Football League. See this: 64.4 The Player must notify in writing the Club holding his registration within one month of the date on which notification of the said terms of re-engagement were sent, whether or not he accepts their offer of re-engagement. If the Player has not replied in writing to the Club's offer of re-engagement by 30 June, the offer shall automatically lapse. www.football-league.co.uk/regulations/20110629/section-6-players_2293633_2125731Scroll up a bit to 64.2.2 and 64.2.4, and it explains why you always hear about managers sitting down to agree the retained list so quickly after a play off final....it's not because they want to get moving and 'catch up' with everyone else, or that play off winning managers have a particular penchant for clearing the decks...it's simply the rules of the competition that offers have to go out within 4 days of the final game when involved in fixtures that go beyond the third Saturday in May. Therefore...The Alan Lee situation has been made clear already (although is not being publicised for whatever reason). Could be a few reasons...such like... Maybe he turned the offer down, cos he wanted to look for a new club where he'd have a better chance of getting more games under his belt, and was told, "ok...take your time and do the right thing for you...if you get nowhere then come back to us as we'd like you to do a bit part job with us and provide the experience in the dressing room...we wont announce anything in the meantime cos it would be a bit embarrassing to release you and then sign you". The club seems to 'do the right thing' by players...hence the good wishes under which players like Pilkington and Peltier left, and I'm sure that 'righteous integrity' is one of the factors in us capturing a few players, as well as the leaving without a cloud of black smoke....so this would seem believable. www.football-league.co.uk/regulations/20110629/section-6-players_2293633_2125731#43 |
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Post by Berty of Cleck. on Jul 10, 2012 9:29:49 GMT 1
I'm sure I read somewhere that it is a one year extension,
that is ALREADY in his contract.
I'm not sure the club COULD withdraw the offer.
I think the club and Alan will be talking to one another about intensions.
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Post by fnd on Jul 10, 2012 9:50:40 GMT 1
Except that he played enough games last year to trigger a clause in his contract that says that we have to offer him a contract extension if he wants it.
From his point of view, there is no rush. He has time to try ad find something more permanent (more than a year), and if nothing comes available then he has the back-up of Town's extra year.
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Post by exilepaul on Jul 10, 2012 9:51:34 GMT 1
The main reason for me asking was that there seems to be notion that we had to offer him a 1 year deal as part of his original contract but I've not seen anything from the club about this (including the press release when he signed) that states this is the case.
Not sure then if this just followed the logic that he hasn't played much & when he has he hasn't impressed therefore we must be forced to offer a contract extension rather that through choice.
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Post by Guest on Jul 10, 2012 10:28:09 GMT 1
There may well be a clause in his contract, but it will only be that we have to make him an offer within the rules of the league...if he didn't accept it before the 30th of June then it has expired.
That's the rules.
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Post by Mr.X on Jul 10, 2012 10:35:32 GMT 1
I'd guess he is seeing what options he has elsewhere. I'd doubt he'll get more/the same brass as here but ust be open to offers for 1st team football. Maybe he doesn't want to sit around on good wages for nothing but knows if needs be he will sign his extension.
He could have signed up straight off and guaranteed another 12 months for very little. That he has not done so and id willing to weigh up going elsewhere shows he has an ethic and desire to play that many others haven't over the years.
His passion for Town cannot be questioned. Get off his back.
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Post by Berty of Cleck. on Jul 10, 2012 10:45:45 GMT 1
There may well be a clause in his contract, but it will only be that we have to make him an offer within the rules of the league...if he didn't accept it before the 30th of June then it has expired. That's the rules. I'm sure if that was the case, we would have heard one way or another by now. |
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Post by AndySk on Jul 10, 2012 11:01:55 GMT 1
If we do get another striker in he's hardly gonna feature anyway. I'd prob give Spencer a run out before him
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Post by exilepaul on Jul 10, 2012 11:07:34 GMT 1
His passion for Town cannot be questioned. Get off his back.
I didn't think trying to have a sensible, reasoned debate would last this long before someone took things personally.
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Post by Captainslapper on Jul 10, 2012 17:15:00 GMT 1
His passion could certainly be questioned in his first year here! He looked and played like a player who couldn't be arsed to put more than 50% effort in- something which instantly changed when he played on TV at the emirates. He cheated the club and Clark that season IMO.
Obviously struggling to get as much money elsewhere . Not surprising, but frankly IMO hes taken enough money out of HTFC already without giving much to earn it.
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Post by fredcarno on Jul 10, 2012 17:36:15 GMT 1
Maybe Grayson has told him that he won't be playing bar a massive injury crisis and he's looking to move somewhere he may get a game and actually look like a footballer.
Wasn't good enough for league 1 so nowhere near good enough for the League above. His seven league goals in two seasons will live long in the memory.
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Post by mykindatown on Jul 10, 2012 17:41:59 GMT 1
reading t'examiner - maybe Spencer is plan b if AL doesnt sign - if AL signs and Spencer doesnt prove owt in warm up games then i guess he will be loaned again or sold - JS just has 1 year left on his i think?
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Jul 11, 2012 5:19:27 GMT 1
I STILL don't believe this clause in his contract triggered malarky. If one contract contains a clause then the terms of the triggered contract would alsoo have to be agreed prior to the original one being signed. NOT just an offer of a contract otherwise what would stop the club offering a Robbie Fowler Blackpoolesque £100 a week contract. A DATM myth that has grown without foundation. I personally think the contract offer has been one that is significantly lower than his last one and he is free to try and get a better offer elsewhere before the original deadline set by the club. In fact it wouldn't surprise me if he hasn't already agreed it and it has yet to be announced it seemed an age before Bennett's agreement was clarified on the Official site, it was at least 2 weeks after the examiner had claimed he had agreed to his. Whoever thinks that our plans are being 'held up' pending a decision by Alan Lee really need to think again  |
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Post by grist on Jul 11, 2012 5:54:32 GMT 1
Maybe Grayson has told him that he won't be playing bar a massive injury crisis and he's looking to move somewhere he may get a game and actually look like a footballer. Wasn't good enough for league 1 so nowhere near good enough for the League above. His seven league goals in two seasons will live long in the memory. He has already stated that he has had his career and that the younger guys should be given a chance. This is all about money and not appearances in the first team. The guy is a mercenary, that's all |
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