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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2014 19:39:48 GMT 1
Need to make some noise tomorrow and drive this bunch of opinion dividers on. Simple as. UTT.
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Post by terrierng on Apr 17, 2014 19:40:37 GMT 1
Thing us Sheriff mate you go on about palaces support but would it be the same if they hadn't changed the manager? Doubt it, pullis has changed a shit team to a winning one and the support reflects that, Robins has taken us to the brink of relegation,even if we stay up I expect a season of struggle next yr, sorry pal if this doesn't fit with your view but I've been there and got the tshirt since 78 will never stop going either but I know struggling team and manager when I see one:-/
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2014 20:08:57 GMT 1
...Robins has lost the dressing room, Robins has lost the plot, Blah Blah Blah fucking Blah. GIVE IT A FUCKING REST. I'm not naming names, but no amount of Town defeats, or inept performances from players, or dodgy tactical decisions, could be anywhere near as tedious as the same boring, mindless, counterproductive crap that is constantly carted out by some on here. It's gotten so pathetic now that certain posters are scraping around for different sticks to beat Robins with , where there are none. Crystal Palace, there's a lesson to be learnt there boys and girls. Pulis has done a cracking job there, no doubt about it, but they have put the biggest teams in the Country to absolute shame with their support, do any of you honestly believe that they would be where there are now without that kind of support? Even when they looked dead certs for relegation, the support was phenomenal, if they'd had just done like we do, and jump on the backs of the manager and players at the first sign of a struggle, it's totally feasible they would still be in the shit. It doesn't matter who's fault it is that we are in this mess, it's pretty bloody obvious that Robins isn't going anywhere, and there's next to fuck all we can do until the summer about the player situation. All that matters now is how we get out of this, and there are too many fans who are hell bent on seeing Robins fail, just to satisfy their own agenda, you know who you are. Instead of sitting on here bitching and moaning like a bunch of teenage girls on the rag, get your fat arses down there tomorrow, and shout, sing, throw flares (not the trousers), just give the lads some fucking support. No more of all this "well we need something to cheer about" bollocks, when you support a football club, you get out what you put in, so put something In, and act like you actually want us to win. Is yours a nice little svelte one, Sheriff?
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Post by galpharm2400 on Apr 17, 2014 20:10:26 GMT 1
same team were shit with loads of backing.. change manager, now not shit, same vocal backing? the bearded comes along and adds another silly post..what is wrong with you??? someone says norwood didn't play well, you come along and intimate that person wants him shot at dawn??? over reacting to anything anyone says that you don't like is what little kids do... just argue you point rationally, please...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2014 20:13:31 GMT 1
...Robins has lost the dressing room, Robins has lost the plot, Blah Blah Blah fucking Blah. GIVE IT A FUCKING REST. I'm not naming names, but no amount of Town defeats, or inept performances from players, or dodgy tactical decisions, could be anywhere near as tedious as the same boring, mindless, counterproductive crap that is constantly carted out by some on here. It's gotten so pathetic now that certain posters are scraping around for different sticks to beat Robins with , where there are none. Crystal Palace, there's a lesson to be learnt there boys and girls. Pulis has done a cracking job there, no doubt about it, but they have put the biggest teams in the Country to absolute shame with their support, do any of you honestly believe that they would be where there are now without that kind of support? Even when they looked dead certs for relegation, the support was phenomenal, if they'd had just done like we do, and jump on the backs of the manager and players at the first sign of a struggle, it's totally feasible they would still be in the shit. It doesn't matter who's fault it is that we are in this mess, it's pretty bloody obvious that Robins isn't going anywhere, and there's next to fuck all we can do until the summer about the player situation. All that matters now is how we get out of this, and there are too many fans who are hell bent on seeing Robins fail, just to satisfy their own agenda, you know who you are. Instead of sitting on here bitching and moaning like a bunch of teenage girls on the rag, get your fat arses down there tomorrow, and shout, sing, throw flares (not the trousers), just give the lads some fucking support. No more of all this "well we need something to cheer about" bollocks, when you support a football club, you get out what you put in, so put something In, and act like you actually want us to win. Is yours a nice little svelte one, Sheriff? Reece I can tell thee, he isn't called the phat slut for nothing.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2014 20:16:01 GMT 1
Thing us Sheriff mate you go on about palaces support but would it be the same if they hadn't changed the manager? Doubt it, pullis has changed a shit team to a winning one and the support reflects that, Robins has taken us to the brink of relegation,even if we stay up I expect a season of struggle next yr, sorry pal if this doesn't fit with your view but I've been there and got the tshirt since 78 will never stop going either but I know struggling team and manager when I see one:-/ I'm not being condescending mate, but their support was just as good 'pre-Pulis' as it is now, even when they looked bang on for relegation they had Selhurst Park rocking every game, (well from what the games I saw anyway, and from what the Soccer Saturday lads were saying, them lot haven't shut up all season about how they've been blown away by Palace's fans) Don't apologise for having a different view, but like I said there's a time for venting at the team, and a time for giving them everything we've got, whether or not they're giving us anything to shout about.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Apr 17, 2014 20:16:54 GMT 1
If we are crap and down a few goals I start rocking and say loud expletives and get agitated a lot.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2014 20:18:35 GMT 1
Is yours a nice little svelte one, Sheriff? Reece I can tell thee, he isn't called the phat slut for nothing. I just knew you'd be along, Ben. I'll set 'em up...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2014 20:24:03 GMT 1
Reece I can tell thee, he isn't called the phat slut for nothing. I just knew you'd be along, Ben. I'll set 'em up... Don't know what you mean! Can't resist the cheap shots, it's childish I know. I want to grow up I really do, I just can't make the change!
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Post by terrierng on Apr 17, 2014 20:24:27 GMT 1
Thing us Sheriff mate you go on about palaces support but would it be the same if they hadn't changed the manager? Doubt it, pullis has changed a shit team to a winning one and the support reflects that, Robins has taken us to the brink of relegation,even if we stay up I expect a season of struggle next yr, sorry pal if this doesn't fit with your view but I've been there and got the tshirt since 78 will never stop going either but I know struggling team and manager when I see one:-/ I'm not being condescending mate, but their support was just as good 'pre-Pulis' as it is now, even when they looked bang on for relegation they had Selhurst Park rocking every game, (well from what the games I saw anyway, and from what the Soccer Saturday lads were saying, them lot haven't shut up all season about how they've been blown away by Palace's fans) Don't apologise for having a different view, but like I said there's a time for venting at the team, and a time for giving them everything we've got, whether or not they're giving us anything to shout about. Ive a good mate who is a palace st holder and believe me it was dire support under Holloway, resigned to relegation but tried to enjoy the prem, however they have created an ultras end so at least a part of the ground was vocal. .a lesson we could learn with the fml..that support would of waned though if pullis hadn't turned it round. .if town win tomorrow, im bloody working, then the atmosphere against Leicester will be party like...but robins and the players bloody owe us..imo.
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Post by royrace on Apr 17, 2014 20:46:48 GMT 1
WELL FUCKING SAID
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Post by royrace on Apr 17, 2014 20:53:33 GMT 1
Funny thing is we were playing well but not getting deserved rewards before the big girls started crying, now we are just shit. It's almost like a self fulfilling prophesy.
I also concede all this public talk of five year plans, long term, giving youth a chance etc hasn't done us any favours at all. The strategy should be kept in the boardroom and not peddled out on radio Leeds every week where it can be used an excuse or a stick to beat people with.
Hope lessons are learned, annoying thing is we were saying the same last year. Let's hope we get another chance again.
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Post by thrice on Apr 17, 2014 20:59:23 GMT 1
Funny thing is we were playing well but not getting deserved rewards before the big girls started crying, now we are just shit. It's almost like a self fulfilling prophesy.I also concede all this public talk of five year plans, long term, giving youth a chance etc hasn't done us any favours at all. The strategy should be kept in the boardroom and not peddled out on radio Leeds every week where it can be used an excuse or a stick to beat people with. Hope lessons are learned, annoying thing is we were saying the same last year. Let's hope we get another chance again. Sent from my GT-I9505 using proboards It is almost like they were right along isn't it . If Robins had fulfilled the prophesy that we were a comfortable mid table team then he wouldn't have any detractors right now. Similarly if he wins up from here we will all end the season cock-a-hoop. It is just the game.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2014 21:03:36 GMT 1
...Robins has lost the dressing room, Robins has lost the plot, Blah Blah Blah fucking Blah. GIVE IT A FUCKING REST. I'm not naming names, but no amount of Town defeats, or inept performances from players, or dodgy tactical decisions, could be anywhere near as tedious as the same boring, mindless, counterproductive crap that is constantly carted out by some on here. It's gotten so pathetic now that certain posters are scraping around for different sticks to beat Robins with , where there are none. Crystal Palace, there's a lesson to be learnt there boys and girls. Pulis has done a cracking job there, no doubt about it, but they have put the biggest teams in the Country to absolute shame with their support, do any of you honestly believe that they would be where there are now without that kind of support? Even when they looked dead certs for relegation, the support was phenomenal, if they'd had just done like we do, and jump on the backs of the manager and players at the first sign of a struggle, it's totally feasible they would still be in the shit. It doesn't matter who's fault it is that we are in this mess, it's pretty bloody obvious that Robins isn't going anywhere, and there's next to fuck all we can do until the summer about the player situation. All that matters now is how we get out of this, and there are too many fans who are hell bent on seeing Robins fail, just to satisfy their own agenda, you know who you are. Instead of sitting on here bitching and moaning like a bunch of teenage girls on the rag, get your fat arses down there tomorrow, and shout, sing, throw flares (not the trousers), just give the lads some fucking support. No more of all this "well we need something to cheer about" bollocks, when you support a football club, you get out what you put in, so put something In, and act like you actually want us to win. Is yours a nice little svelte one, Sheriff? Let's just say that 'Ghetto Booty' is an understatement
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Post by shawsie on Apr 17, 2014 21:16:51 GMT 1
Thing us Sheriff mate you go on about palaces support but would it be the same if they hadn't changed the manager? Doubt it, pullis has changed a shit team to a winning one and the support reflects that, Robins has taken us to the brink of relegation,even if we stay up I expect a season of struggle next yr, sorry pal if this doesn't fit with your view but I've been there and got the tshirt since 78 will never stop going either but I know struggling team and manager when I see one:-/ Werent burnley fans saying the same 12m ago?!
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Post by yanfan on Apr 17, 2014 21:28:29 GMT 1
You get what you put in----does that include spending megabucks to go to away games and cheer your team on only to see your team lose again after playing crap and listen to a 'manager' talk a lot of shite on the radio after the game? If it does then I believe that I aren't getting what I put in.Robins out!
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Post by Heckyblue on Apr 17, 2014 21:44:59 GMT 1
I agree Sheriff. Stick to debating after the game on here, but come game time, as far as I'm concerned all previous performances go out of the window. We can make a huge difference by backing the boys tomorrow. Completely agree, get behind the players non stop at the match, whatever the performance is like, then moan as much as you want on here when it's all over.
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Post by bro600 on Apr 17, 2014 21:48:04 GMT 1
I blame plug and play systems...This messageboard was alright when you needed a bit of intelligence to keep a computer up and running and now every pissing idiot can get on. lol
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Post by terrierng on Apr 17, 2014 21:58:41 GMT 1
Thing us Sheriff mate you go on about palaces support but would it be the same if they hadn't changed the manager? Doubt it, pullis has changed a shit team to a winning one and the support reflects that, Robins has taken us to the brink of relegation,even if we stay up I expect a season of struggle next yr, sorry pal if this doesn't fit with your view but I've been there and got the tshirt since 78 will never stop going either but I know struggling team and manager when I see one:-/ Werent burnley fans saying the same 12m ago?! No offence mate but so what if they were? Does it mean because they have done well this season then we will next? Sick of this comparison with Burnley it means f all, do you expect us to finish second then if we sell our best two strikers(haha) and keep the manager just cos its what Burnley did?
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Post by shawsie on Apr 17, 2014 22:54:11 GMT 1
Werent burnley fans saying the same 12m ago?! No offence mate but so what if they were? Does it mean because they have done well this season then we will next? Sick of this comparison with Burnley it means f all, do you expect us to finish second then if we sell our best two strikers(haha) and keep the manager just cos its what Burnley did? Not necessarily no.........but persistently changing the manager every 12m doesnt guarantee its going to be any better either! I remain to be convinced with robins also......but up to around the millwall game at home i thought things were going well....we had a young vibrant team which needed 2/3 new recruits of real quality to push on imo. Since then its got progressively worse and robins must carry the can for that........but he isnt helped by a number of players quite literally downing tools - ward, norwood, goburn, hogg, southern, wallace, have been pathetic imo and the likes of smithies, clayton, dixon, smith have dropped their performance levels markedly recently also. Many chairmen would have pushed the button and fired robins.......but the question then is who comes in?! This group got grayson fired and you have to ask whether a playing clearout is needed before the managerial staff?!
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Post by thrice on Apr 17, 2014 23:00:30 GMT 1
No offence mate but so what if they were? Does it mean because they have done well this season then we will next? Sick of this comparison with Burnley it means f all, do you expect us to finish second then if we sell our best two strikers(haha) and keep the manager just cos its what Burnley did? Not necessarily no.........but persistently changing the manager every 12m doesnt guarantee its going to be any better either! I remain to be convinced with robins also......but up to around the millwall game at home i thought things were going well....we had a young vibrant team which needed 2/3 new recruits of real quality to push on imo. Since then its got progressively worse and robins must carry the can for that........but he isnt helped by a number of players quite literally downing tools - ward, norwood, goburn, hogg, southern, wallace, have been pathetic imo and the likes of smithies, clayton, dixon, smith have dropped their performance levels markedly recently also. Many chairmen would have pushed the button and fired robins.......but the question then is who comes in?! This group got grayson fired and you have to ask whether a playing clearout is needed before the managerial staff?! Why has he persisted with them all thus far though? That is what really gets me I struggle to see how we will muster ourselves from here & am banking on others falling short.
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Post by terrierng on Apr 17, 2014 23:48:08 GMT 1
No offence mate but so what if they were? Does it mean because they have done well this season then we will next? Sick of this comparison with Burnley it means f all, do you expect us to finish second then if we sell our best two strikers(haha) and keep the manager just cos its what Burnley did? Not necessarily no.........but persistently changing the manager every 12m doesnt guarantee its going to be any better either! I remain to be convinced with robins also......but up to around the millwall game at home i thought things were going well....we had a young vibrant team which needed 2/3 new recruits of real quality to push on imo. Since then its got progressively worse and robins must carry the can for that........but he isnt helped by a number of players quite literally downing tools - ward, norwood, goburn, hogg, southern, wallace, have been pathetic imo and the likes of smithies, clayton, dixon, smith have dropped their performance levels markedly recently also. Many chairmen would have pushed the button and fired robins.......but the question then is who comes in?! This group got grayson fired and you have to ask whether a playing clearout is needed before the managerial staff?! I agree about the players and I expect a mass clearance and good riddance. But in truth the only first team player I would be disappointed to see go would be wells, the rest can go for me. . As for robins, well hes got a lot to prove hope hes up to it.
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Post by E4b on Apr 18, 2014 0:15:05 GMT 1
Nice post, reminded me a bit like a Norman Wisdom speech in one of them films from years gone by. It's a pity you shed a different light when there's as much need to get behind your players rather than childishly slagging them off like 1 or 2 other more famous posters on here.
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Post by Cosmo Kramer on Apr 18, 2014 0:17:03 GMT 1
No offence mate but so what if they were? Does it mean because they have done well this season then we will next? Sick of this comparison with Burnley it means f all, do you expect us to finish second then if we sell our best two strikers(haha) and keep the manager just cos its what Burnley did? Not necessarily no.........but persistently changing the manager every 12m doesnt guarantee its going to be any better either! I remain to be convinced with robins also......but up to around the millwall game at home i thought things were going well....we had a young vibrant team which needed 2/3 new recruits of real quality to push on imo. Since then its got progressively worse and robins must carry the can for that........but he isnt helped by a number of players quite literally downing tools - ward, norwood, goburn, hogg, southern, wallace, have been pathetic imo and the likes of smithies, clayton, dixon, smith have dropped their performance levels markedly recently also. Many chairmen would have pushed the button and fired robins.......but the question then is who comes in?! This group got grayson fired and you have to ask whether a playing clearout is needed before the managerial staff?! Agree, but I don't think a complete player overhaul is required. I think some need to move on, clearly, but some additions with the right mindset may give some players the much needed kick up the arse to get them playing how we know we can on a regular basis
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Post by patfield on Apr 18, 2014 6:50:27 GMT 1
...Robins has lost the dressing room, Robins has lost the plot, Blah Blah Blah fucking Blah. GIVE IT A FUCKING REST. I'm not naming names, but no amount of Town defeats, or inept performances from players, or dodgy tactical decisions, could be anywhere near as tedious as the same boring, mindless, counterproductive crap that is constantly carted out by some on here. It's gotten so pathetic now that certain posters are scraping around for different sticks to beat Robins with , where there are none. Crystal Palace, there's a lesson to be learnt there boys and girls. Pulis has done a cracking job there, no doubt about it, but they have put the biggest teams in the Country to absolute shame with their support, do any of you honestly believe that they would be where there are now without that kind of support? Even when they looked dead certs for relegation, the support was phenomenal, if they'd had just done like we do, and jump on the backs of the manager and players at the first sign of a struggle, it's totally feasible they would still be in the shit. It doesn't matter who's fault it is that we are in this mess, it's pretty bloody obvious that Robins isn't going anywhere, and there's next to fuck all we can do until the summer about the player situation. All that matters now is how we get out of this, and there are too many fans who are hell bent on seeing Robins fail, just to satisfy their own agenda, you know who you are. Instead of sitting on here bitching and moaning like a bunch of teenage girls on the rag, get your fat arses down there tomorrow, and shout, sing, throw flares (not the trousers), just give the lads some fucking support. No more of all this "well we need something to cheer about" bollocks, when you support a football club, you get out what you put in, so put something In, and act like you actually want us to win. Got to admire your passion. Im actually in the Robins out brigade as I don't think he can take us any higher, if we avoid relegation this year where can you honestly see Robins taking us? As much as I disagree with a lot of your posts Sheriff, the one bit I agree with is get down there and support the lads as I will be doing with many thousand others.
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Post by DannyG on Apr 18, 2014 7:07:37 GMT 1
This myth that our season is somehow mirroring Burnley's 2012/13 campaign is getting out of hand. I've been hearing it loads away from DATM, too. Don't know who started it but it's b*ll**ks! They lost 2 of their last 9. We haven't won in 9. They didn't lose more than 2 games in a row at any point last season. Maybe they were still in with a chance of relegation with 4 games left but so were half of the Championship last time around. So their fans had a chunter about their manager? Which club's fans don't at some point? Leicester had a 9 game run without a win toward the back end of last season. If you look, you'll probably find their fans complaining about Pearson back then. Bristol City didn't win any of their last 9 games, either. Is it fair to compare us with them? I'm not in the Robins out camp as I can think of several reasons to keep him. However, if your reasoning is that we might 'do a Burnley', I reckon you're clutching at straws.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2014 7:27:38 GMT 1
I know today is gonna be f..kin nervous so I got a plan. The players - especially captain butterfingers - look nervous as fook. Expectation is way too high from the fans. We expect our team to win at home, maybe put in a little effort along the way. Show some balls. So....goo with the mindset of a neutral or one where you know we are going to lose. accept the fact that the players are a bunch of overrated overhyped wimps who have about as much backbone as a tonne of s..t. accept the fact that you are going to turn up in the hope that just for once Town will actually put in a shift at home. Don't be disappointed if they don't because hey.... if relegation is good enough for Yeovil, then it's good enough for us. Remember with fondness League One and all the hard work the club put in to actually get out of it.
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Post by terrierng on Apr 18, 2014 7:42:27 GMT 1
Nice post, reminded me a bit like a Norman Wisdom speech in one of them films from years gone by. It's a pity you shed a different light when there's as much need to get behind your players rather than childishly slagging them off like 1 or 2 other more famous posters on here. Childishly slagging them off or being realistic? If you see know wrong with the team or set up then fair play but after over 35 yrs of watching them I know a bad team and dressing room when I see one, fyi I back them during a match as much as anyone and criticise them just as much on here or in the pub...the level of effort they have been putting in lately isnt good enough but if you or anyone else is satisfied then fair dos.....sick of the same rallying cries or soundbites coming out the club...actions are needed not words.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2014 7:51:06 GMT 1
This myth that our season is somehow mirroring Burnley's 2012/13 campaign is getting out of hand. I've been hearing it loads away from DATM, too. Don't know who started it but it's b*ll**ks! They lost 2 of their last 9. We haven't won in 9. They didn't lose more than 2 games in a row at any point last season. Maybe they were still in with a chance of relegation with 4 games left but so were half of the Championship last time around. So their fans had a chunter about their manager? Which club's fans don't at some point? Leicester had a 9 game run without a win toward the back end of last season. If you look, you'll probably find their fans complaining about Pearson back then. Bristol City didn't win any of their last 9 games, either. Is it fair to compare us with them? I'm not in the Robins out camp as I can think of several reasons to keep him. However, if your reasoning is that we might 'do a Burnley', I reckon you're clutching at straws. The Indiana Jones gags in your reports.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2014 7:58:19 GMT 1
As supporters, surely it's our obligation to get behind the team and back them vocally, ultimately, we all want the club to win as many games as possible from the remaining fixtures and today is a good opportunity have a crack at taking 3 points. If the fans are subdued, it won't take long for this bunch of players to start dropping off, and hiding from the ball, and Brighton will give us a humiliation.
You can think what you want about the players and the manager, but the truth is, we're stuck with what we've got at the minute, whether you like it or not.
Wouldn't you rather be on here tonight crowing about how the fans made the difference in a hard fought draw or victory, rather than bemoaning another poor performance?
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