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Clayton
Jul 13, 2014 19:05:23 GMT 1
Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Jul 13, 2014 19:05:23 GMT 1
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Post by borofan on Jul 13, 2014 19:14:55 GMT 1
Kei Kamara haha dear me. Would be happy if you took him off our hands. Bloody woeful
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Post by Tanzanian Terrier on Jul 13, 2014 19:19:59 GMT 1
Kei Kamara haha dear me. Would be happy if you took him off our hands. Bloody woeful Are Boro really serious the, I think not and just seem to wasting everyone's time, put up or shut up
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Clayton
Jul 13, 2014 19:24:04 GMT 1
Post by borofan on Jul 13, 2014 19:24:04 GMT 1
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Post by Tanzanian Terrier on Jul 13, 2014 19:31:20 GMT 1
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Post by terrierng on Jul 13, 2014 19:53:24 GMT 1
No we have put a 3,75million tag on him no way would we take half, if that is what hoyle wants you can be damn sure he wont accept much less....you smog monsters better start digging a bit deeper if you want him.like I said earlier we are no longer a soft touch.
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Post by catterickterrier on Jul 13, 2014 21:56:02 GMT 1
Is this kamara who tried to get Boro to pay his med bill in USA or somewhere?
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Clayton
Jul 13, 2014 21:57:29 GMT 1
Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2014 21:57:29 GMT 1
i reckon deano wont take less than 4 million for clayton. dream on if you think a player swop is an option as a makeweight. not going to happen.
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Post by royrace on Jul 13, 2014 22:15:40 GMT 1
Clayton is one of the best cm in the championship and is understandably sought after, why would anyone think he is 1. Only worth 1.5m and 2. We could replace him for that???
I think Dean is wise enough to realise top, experienced, young championship midfielders don't cost 1.5m. Dream on Boro, start at 3m and the club may start to listen. In an ideal world we sign him up for another 3 years, he's the real deal.
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Clayton
Jul 13, 2014 22:16:46 GMT 1
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Post by mightyterrier on Jul 13, 2014 22:16:46 GMT 1
Clayton is one of the best cm in the championship and is understandably sought after, why would anyone think he is 1. Only worth 1.5m and 2. We could replace him for that??? I think Dean is wise enough to realise top, experienced, young championship midfielders don't cost 1.5m. Dream on Boro, start at 3m and the club may start to listen. In an ideal world we sign him up for another 3 years, he's the real deal. Sent from my GT-I9505 using proboards If Clayton is worth 4 million or even anything over 2 million I will eat my hat!
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jul 13, 2014 22:40:43 GMT 1
Clayton is one of the best cm in the championship and is understandably sought after, why would anyone think he is 1. Only worth 1.5m and 2. We could replace him for that??? I think Dean is wise enough to realise top, experienced, young championship midfielders don't cost 1.5m. Dream on Boro, start at 3m and the club may start to listen. In an ideal world we sign him up for another 3 years, he's the real deal. Sent from my GT-I9505 using proboards If Clayton is worth 4 million or even anything over 2 million I will eat my hat! Two million... then three ,,, then four... Where will it end? He has a year left on his contract do people not realise the implications of that in terms of a fee? We are not in the box seat. Claytons advisors might be telling him to sit tight for a season and take the coin next season
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Post by royrace on Jul 13, 2014 23:28:03 GMT 1
Clayton is one of the best cm in the championship and is understandably sought after, why would anyone think he is 1. Only worth 1.5m and 2. We could replace him for that??? I think Dean is wise enough to realise top, experienced, young championship midfielders don't cost 1.5m. Dream on Boro, start at 3m and the club may start to listen. In an ideal world we sign him up for another 3 years, he's the real deal. Sent from my GT-I9505 using proboards If Clayton is worth 4 million or even anything over 2 million I will eat my hat! Ok you don't need to do that but find me a cm better than or a good as Clayton for less than 3 million who is proven at championship level. I don't believe we shell out half a mil and big wages to let players go for a small profit once their stock rises. Sent from my GT-I9505 using proboards
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Post by royrace on Jul 13, 2014 23:30:49 GMT 1
If Clayton is worth 4 million or even anything over 2 million I will eat my hat! Two million... then three ,,, then four... Where will it end? He has a year left on his contract do people not realise the implications of that in terms of a fee? We are not in the box seat. Claytons advisors might be telling him to sit tight for a season and take the coin next season Yes that's clearly a factor and to be honest it's disappointing to say the least it's got to that stage but works both ways and he's still our player. I would argue therefore that we ARE in the box seat. Sent from my GT-I9505 using proboards
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Clayton
Jul 13, 2014 23:32:50 GMT 1
Post by Chips Longhorn on Jul 13, 2014 23:32:50 GMT 1
If Clayton is worth 4 million or even anything over 2 million I will eat my hat! Ok you don't need to do that but find me a cm better than or a good as Clayton for less than 3 million who is proven at championship level. I don't believe we shell out half a mil and big wages to let players go for a small profit once their stock rises. Sent from my GT-I9505 using proboards Cost of striker with four years remaining on contract 8m Cost of same striker with one year remaining on contract Maybe 2m? Cost of same striker whose contract has run out Zero
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Clayton
Jul 13, 2014 23:36:29 GMT 1
Post by Chips Longhorn on Jul 13, 2014 23:36:29 GMT 1
Two million... then three ,,, then four... Where will it end? He has a year left on his contract do people not realise the implications of that in terms of a fee? We are not in the box seat. Claytons advisors might be telling him to sit tight for a season and take the coin next season Yes that's clearly a factor and to be honest it's disappointing to say the least it's got to that stage but works both ways and he's still our player. I would argue therefore that we ARE in the box seat. Sent from my GT-I9505 using proboards How are we? Lets say for arguments sake Boro offer us 4m and him 20k a week for 5 years. He could say no ta i'll sit on it a year, in the hope ill get 30k a week and town get nowt. What exactly could town do? Zilch
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Post by Spunker on Jul 14, 2014 2:46:15 GMT 1
Will Clayton leave? Who knows. I know that the modern 'thing' for highly paid footballers with ambition is to move to a London club. That lifestyle and bullshit that goes with it... However, we have a great set up at Town with players earning decent fundage. Well looked after at a Premier League quality training ground, ambitious Chairman, management and coaching staff who play football the 'Clayton' way. Fortunately - despite not being a 'London' club - we do habitat on the M62. This means that players from Liverpool, Manchester, Leeds - and as far posting shitholes like Hull - are all within 45/60 mins drive in. We have this advantage over you. No disrespect intended. But you aren't 'Premier League Boro' anymore. No more Ravanelli Silver Fox... You are another smoggy shit hole that is in the Championship scrap with us. But, further north and remote from Adam and his family. Could you offer him more ambition than us? Can you afford to pay the large fee and wages needed? Would he go to live up there? The answer to some/all of the above is probably no. But FairPlay to you if he does sign for you - you have my express permission to log this post on your fansite for fun times and giggles if you do. All the best. This is my favourite ever post on DATM.
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Clayton
Jul 14, 2014 11:51:00 GMT 1
Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Jul 14, 2014 11:51:00 GMT 1
Surely accepting a fine for breaking the fair play rules is no different than cheating as fair play means exactly what it says and thank god we have a chairman who puts the well being of Huddersfield Town first . Town took a so called gamble under a different chairman in early 2000 which so nearly ended our existence and surey this is just one reason why the fair play rules were put in place and no point introducing them if they cannot be enforced.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2014 12:28:18 GMT 1
Whoooaaaa.
Everyone has a weird view on values. Christie linked last year = we should offer bugger all as his contract is nearly up. Clayton to go this year = contract length has little factor on value. Make your minds up.
Look at it this way - if Clayton has said he doesn't want to extend his contract then he isn't our player longterm. So, how much are we prepared to lose in turning down a bid and risk him going on a free?
Picture it like a loan deal with him leaving next summer. Turning down £1m would equate to wages of c.£20k a week. Would we be happy to pay a loanee that for a season? £2m would be double that. No chance. Boro will be more than aware of this. I think we will be looking at £1.5m tops, which would be the equivalent of us being £30k per week better off this year than losing him for bugger all in the summer. Spend some on a good loanee or two whilst blooding Billing etc to fill the void and scout possible replacements.
Be nice to keep him but nonsense financially when we want to build for the future.
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Post by barnsleydaz on Jul 14, 2014 12:39:33 GMT 1
Yes that's clearly a factor and to be honest it's disappointing to say the least it's got to that stage but works both ways and he's still our player. I would argue therefore that we ARE in the box seat. Sent from my GT-I9505 using proboards How are we? Lets say for arguments sake Boro offer us 4m and him 20k a week for 5 years. He could say no ta i'll sit on it a year, in the hope ill get 30k a week and town get nowt. What exactly could town do? Zilch If Clayton was offered £20k per week for 5 years he would be gone. You'd take it while its on offer no matter who is offering. If he decided to wait until his contract ran out in 12 month he runs the risk of having a bad season, or picking up a career threatening injury. I take your point though, there is nothing Town could do.
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Post by Grandfather Berty of Cleck on Jul 14, 2014 12:48:08 GMT 1
He has his hair cut in Cleck. I can't see him wanting to lose that option.
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Clayton
Jul 14, 2014 12:53:38 GMT 1
Post by borofan on Jul 14, 2014 12:53:38 GMT 1
Surely accepting a fine for breaking the fair play rules is no different than cheating as fair play means exactly what it says and thank god we have a chairman who puts the well being of Huddersfield Town first . Town took a so called gamble under a different chairman in early 2000 which so nearly ended our existence and surey this is just one reason why the fair play rules were put in place and no point introducing them if they cannot be enforced. Steve Gibson is widely regarded as one of the best owners in the country, he will do nothing to risk the future of the club after being in charge for almost 30 years. If we have a fine it sounds like he is happy to pay it, I dont know how much were allowed to spend with ffp though
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Post by Tanzanian Terrier on Jul 14, 2014 13:21:16 GMT 1
Surely accepting a fine for breaking the fair play rules is no different than cheating as fair play means exactly what it says and thank god we have a chairman who puts the well being of Huddersfield Town first . Town took a so called gamble under a different chairman in early 2000 which so nearly ended our existence and surey this is just one reason why the fair play rules were put in place and no point introducing them if they cannot be enforced. Steve Gibson is widely regarded as one of the best owners in the country, he will do nothing to risk the future of the club after being in charge for almost 30 years. If we have a fine it sounds like he is happy to pay it, I dont know how much were allowed to spend with ffp though I don't think you fully understand the concept if FFP as said yesterday it is not a fine and the club not the owner pay the fine. Yes he can write it off but it applies each and every year and transfer embargo stays in place until club is compliant
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Clayton
Jul 14, 2014 13:30:04 GMT 1
Post by bristolterrier on Jul 14, 2014 13:30:04 GMT 1
Clayton is one of the best cm in the championship and is understandably sought after, why would anyone think he is 1. Only worth 1.5m and 2. We could replace him for that???I think Dean is wise enough to realise top, experienced, young championship midfielders don't cost 1.5m. Dream on Boro, start at 3m and the club may start to listen. In an ideal world we sign him up for another 3 years, he's the real deal. Sent from my GT-I9505 using proboards And there you have it in a few words. Whatever money a player is sold for, if the club have ambition, what would they need to spend to replace him. £1.5m wouldn't buy a half tidy midfielder from L1. As my Yeovil mate said after the game at their place "Clayton was the only player on the pitch who could play in the premier league"
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Clayton
Jul 14, 2014 13:33:43 GMT 1
Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Jul 14, 2014 13:33:43 GMT 1
How people calculate that Clayton is worth 1 million plus is beyond me. 750k at best given he has a year left on his contract, this is a big bargaining tool is the little time left on the contract. If we get 750k for him it would be excellent business.
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Clayton
Jul 14, 2014 13:42:45 GMT 1
Post by kennyk2 on Jul 14, 2014 13:42:45 GMT 1
Clayton is one of the best cm in the championship and is understandably sought after, why would anyone think he is 1. Only worth 1.5m and 2. We could replace him for that???I think Dean is wise enough to realise top, experienced, young championship midfielders don't cost 1.5m. Dream on Boro, start at 3m and the club may start to listen. In an ideal world we sign him up for another 3 years, he's the real deal. Sent from my GT-I9505 using proboards And there you have it in a few words. Whatever money a player is sold for, if the club have ambition, what would they need to spend to replace him. £1.5m wouldn't buy a half tidy midfielder from L1. As my Yeovil mate said after the game at their place "Clayton was the only player on the pitch who could play in the premier league" A third of that amount bought a half-tidy midfielder from the Championship though... ... Clayton! To that end let's start a bidding war and get as much as possible for him as there seems to still be plenty of money swilling about in this division.
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Clayton
Jul 14, 2014 13:44:12 GMT 1
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Post by Melc on Jul 14, 2014 13:44:12 GMT 1
Steve Gibson is widely regarded as one of the best owners in the country, he will do nothing to risk the future of the club after being in charge for almost 30 years. If we have a fine it sounds like he is happy to pay it, I dont know how much were allowed to spend with ffp though I don't think you fully understand the concept if FFP as said yesterday it is not a fine and the club not the owner pay the fine. Yes he can write it off but it applies each and every year and transfer embargo stays in place until club is compliant Come December it will be interesting to see what is done to the many clubs who are just carrying on as normal spending to get to the promised land. I feel nothing will come of if as to me it could' be challenged in court as a restriction of trade. The whole thing is wrong, but we all know the premiership has caused no end of problems for clubs like ours, and no doubt it will get worse. I just hope we can survive at this level with the blueprint the club have decided to use as league one football is a level we don't want again.
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Clayton
Jul 14, 2014 13:46:47 GMT 1
Post by AndySk on Jul 14, 2014 13:46:47 GMT 1
Well if Boro are so happy to ignore the ffp and try and 'cheat' their way out of the league, as is being made out, that'll be £10mill please.
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Clayton
Jul 14, 2014 14:14:17 GMT 1
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Post by yoy on Jul 14, 2014 14:14:17 GMT 1
Surely accepting a fine for breaking the fair play rules is no different than cheating as fair play means exactly what it says and thank god we have a chairman who puts the well being of Huddersfield Town first . Town took a so called gamble under a different chairman in early 2000 which so nearly ended our existence and surey this is just one reason why the fair play rules were put in place and no point introducing them if they cannot be enforced. Steve Gibson is widely regarded as one of the best owners in the country, he will do nothing to risk the future of the club after being in charge for almost 30 years. If we have a fine it sounds like he is happy to pay it, I dont know how much were allowed to spend with ffp though Refinanced since I was last involved but I suspect that the controls from the banking group on how much the football club can spend are still in place. Likewise, with how much cash can be moved into Rockcliffe. I don't know for sure, though 12 months ago this was definitely the case. Who knows - perhaps the loosening of the purse strings coincides with a group refinance.
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Clayton
Jul 14, 2014 14:37:40 GMT 1
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Post by jqhtfc on Jul 14, 2014 14:37:40 GMT 1
Will probably sell him and use some of the cash to fund his replacement.....Keith Andrews!!!
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Clayton
Jul 14, 2014 14:46:58 GMT 1
Post by borofan on Jul 14, 2014 14:46:58 GMT 1
Dont know an awful lot about these ffp rules, im just repeating what I have seen in the gazette. Im sure we wont do anything to risk the future of our club though
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