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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 15:27:52 GMT 1
Shite title, but true.
No more international footie for the lad.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 15:30:26 GMT 1
wont be missed i'm afraid.
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Jul 21, 2014 16:14:11 GMT 1
A few more of 'em should take his lead, including the manager.
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Post by Stan_Lee on Jul 21, 2014 16:50:45 GMT 1
Mr Average
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 16:55:45 GMT 1
I hated watching Gerrard play for England
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Post by royrace on Jul 21, 2014 16:58:23 GMT 1
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Post by Essex Terrier on Jul 21, 2014 17:05:11 GMT 1
No-one, and I mean NO-ONE should retire from international football. Who the hell d'you think you are? It's an honour, not a chore to play for your country - perhaps this is one of the problems we have in England football set up? #HarryWasRight?
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Post by Russlad on Jul 21, 2014 17:24:18 GMT 1
Time for Wilshere to step up and be absolutely mediocre
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 17:29:42 GMT 1
No-one, and I mean NO-ONE should retire from international football. Who the hell d'you think you are? It's an honour, not a chore to play for your country - perhaps this is one of the problems we have in England football set up? #HarryWasRight? Shearer and Scholes. Retired before their time. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 17:36:51 GMT 1
No-one, and I mean NO-ONE should retire from international football. Who the hell d'you think you are? It's an honour, not a chore to play for your country - perhaps this is one of the problems we have in England football set up? #HarryWasRight? If he feels his body isnt up to it what do you expect him to do,play using a zimmer frame?also gives the younger lads a chance to step up |
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Jul 21, 2014 17:42:47 GMT 1
Essex I think you've got the wrong end of the stick.
I think it's just a way to avoid the 'player x dropped from England squad..... international career over' headlines thus taking the emphasis away from the players actually picked for the squad.
Usually announcements like this come after the management have told the said player to retire.
There are exceptions for example when players take their bat and ball home after not being selected or when they just don't want the media circus constantly criticising their performances.
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Jul 21, 2014 17:45:36 GMT 1
No-one, and I mean NO-ONE should retire from international football. Who the hell d'you think you are? It's an honour, not a chore to play for your country - perhaps this is one of the problems we have in England football set up? #HarryWasRight? If he feels his body isnt up to it what do you expect him to do,play using a zimmer frame?also gives the younger lads a chance to step up If Hodgson had any sense he wouldn't have picked him anyway because after his performances in the World Cup he's clearly past it as an international. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 17:52:04 GMT 1
If he feels his body isnt up to it what do you expect him to do,play using a zimmer frame?also gives the younger lads a chance to step up If Hodgson had any sense he wouldn't have picked him anyway because after his performances in the World Cup he's clearly past it as an international. i agree,, hes not good enough to play defensive midfield, his positioning and tackling isnt up to it, especially against world class youngsters,,, Gerrards game was about powerfull runs from midfield followed by great strikes, thats all gone now,,,, hes just left with the Hollywood ball range of passing, usually to no one |
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Post by Skint Terriers on Jul 21, 2014 17:55:44 GMT 1
people saying he shouldnt of been picked in the first place but who else do we have that can play defensive midfield? Gareth Barry?!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 17:57:51 GMT 1
people saying he shouldnt of been picked in the first place but who else do we have that can play defensive midfield? Gareth Barry?! i think he should of been picked for the world cup just gone, but time to move on now |
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Post by kennyk2 on Jul 21, 2014 18:12:26 GMT 1
Jesus! When I saw the thread, thought we'd just lost a centre half!
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Post by Captainslapper on Jul 21, 2014 19:52:34 GMT 1
If Hodgson had any sense he wouldn't have picked him anyway because after his performances in the World Cup he's clearly past it as an international. i agree,, hes not good enough to play defensive midfield, his positioning and tackling isnt up to it, especially against world class youngsters,,, Gerrards game was about powerfull runs from midfield followed by great strikes, thats all gone now,,,, hes just left with the Hollywood ball range of passing, usually to no one Think he played there for liverpool last season and by all accounts had a great season. That in a team challenging for the title. Wasn't great in the world cup but wasn't one of our worst players either. he just gets more attention because hes a big name player and the skipper. Been a great servant to his country and at his peak was a genuinely world class player- though id agree he didn't show that often enough for his country for whatever reason ( hes not alone in that - plenty of top players from various countries don't show the same form for the national side). If he doesn't feel hes going to be there in the next finals then hes done the right thing retiring. Don't know how anyone can complain at that when hes got over 100 caps! |
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Post by Essex Terrier on Jul 21, 2014 20:21:17 GMT 1
No-one, and I mean NO-ONE should retire from international football. Who the hell d'you think you are? It's an honour, not a chore to play for your country - perhaps this is one of the problems we have in England football set up? #HarryWasRight? If he feels his body isnt up to it what do you expect him to do,play using a zimmer frame?also gives the younger lads a chance to step up I wouldn't expect Hodgson to pick him if he was in a zimmer frame. If he is fit and in form, and if selected, he should play, anything other than this just shows the sheer arrogance of these show-ponies! |
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Post by Captainslapper on Jul 21, 2014 21:07:33 GMT 1
If he feels his body isnt up to it what do you expect him to do,play using a zimmer frame?also gives the younger lads a chance to step up I wouldn't expect Hodgson to pick him if he was in a zimmer frame. If he is fit and in form, and if selected, he should play, anything other than this just shows the sheer arrogance of these show-ponies! Thats nonsense. How is knowing you're not quite up to it anymore being arrogant? And in what way is gerrard a show pony? utter garbage comment. Thinking you still good enough when you're not or having a strop if you're left out- thats arrogance. SG is neither of those. he knows his body better than anyone else and the chances are that after a gruelling season in the prem where hes played practically every game, he felt well below par by the time the finals came around. Think his club form suffered in the last few weeks of the season aswell and he started making costly mistakes. At his age hes done the right thing. Whats surprising is someone like Lahm retiring at only 30 when hes at the top of his game. |
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Post by Essex Terrier on Jul 21, 2014 21:17:59 GMT 1
I wouldn't expect Hodgson to pick him if he was in a zimmer frame. If he is fit and in form, and if selected, he should play, anything other than this just shows the sheer arrogance of these show-ponies! Thats nonsense. How is knowing you're not quite up to it anymore being arrogant? And in what way is gerrard a show pony? utter garbage comment. Thinking you still good enough when you're not or having a strop if you're left out- thats arrogance. SG is neither of those. he knows his body better than anyone else and the chances are that after a gruelling season in the prem where hes played practically every game, he felt well below par by the time the finals came around. Think his club form suffered in the last few weeks of the season aswell and he started making costly mistakes. At his age hes done the right thing. Whats surprising is someone like Lahm retiring at only 30 when hes at the top of his game. As always, you are entitled to your view but its wrong, in my opinion. If his body is not fit enough or his skills are not good enough or his is mentally unsuited to his sport, then he should not be picked. It is arrogance to "retire" before your time. Just not being arsed to play for your country is simply not good enough. The manager decides who is and who isn't good enough. He may be right, he may be wrong, but you should ALWAYS be prepared and willing (edit) and proud to pull on the jersey of your national team. In my opinion. |
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Post by ritchie on Jul 21, 2014 21:20:37 GMT 1
No-one, and I mean NO-ONE should retire from international football. Who the hell d'you think you are? It's an honour, not a chore to play for your country - perhaps this is one of the problems we have in England football set up? #HarryWasRight? Bit harsh. i dont agree with players taking their bat home and retiring, but this obviously isnt the case. If older players think they will be spreading themselves too thin i'd rather them pack it in than turn up and not be able to put 100% in. superb player in his time but glad he's off. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 21:29:00 GMT 1
Shite title, but true. No more international footie for the lad. It's time for Rooney to do the same - both well past their sell by dates. |
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Post by Tinpot on Jul 21, 2014 21:36:21 GMT 1
i agree,, hes not good enough to play defensive midfield, his positioning and tackling isnt up to it, especially against world class youngsters,,, Gerrards game was about powerfull runs from midfield followed by great strikes, thats all gone now,,,, hes just left with the Hollywood ball range of passing, usually to no one Think he played there for liverpool last season and by all accounts had a great season. That in a team challenging for the title. Wasn't great in the world cup but wasn't one of our worst players either. he just gets more attention because hes a big name player and the skipper. Been a great servant to his country and at his peak was a genuinely world class player - though id agree he didn't show that often enough for his country for whatever reason ( hes not alone in that - plenty of top players from various countries don't show the same form for the national side). If he doesn't feel hes going to be there in the next finals then hes done the right thing retiring. Don't know how anyone can complain at that when hes got over 100 caps! Didn't show often enough for his country, but was a great servant to his country? How does that work? |
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Post by COWSHEDPHIL on Jul 21, 2014 22:20:18 GMT 1
Unfortunately he could be remembered for that shocking mistake against Chelsea where he fell over and blew the league title, and a shocking mistake against Uragauy where he forgot to head the ball.
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Post by impact on Jul 21, 2014 22:29:17 GMT 1
Cracking club player, very average internationally. Time to go I'm afraid and let the youngsters come through.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jul 21, 2014 22:33:52 GMT 1
I don't like all this retirement bollocks... If in two years time we got injuries prior to the euros and Roy begged him back . He'd come
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Post by Terrier9 on Jul 21, 2014 22:38:39 GMT 1
Think they should give captaincy to Barkley
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Post by Captainslapper on Jul 22, 2014 0:17:56 GMT 1
Thats nonsense. How is knowing you're not quite up to it anymore being arrogant? And in what way is gerrard a show pony? utter garbage comment. Thinking you still good enough when you're not or having a strop if you're left out- thats arrogance. SG is neither of those. he knows his body better than anyone else and the chances are that after a gruelling season in the prem where hes played practically every game, he felt well below par by the time the finals came around. Think his club form suffered in the last few weeks of the season aswell and he started making costly mistakes. At his age hes done the right thing. Whats surprising is someone like Lahm retiring at only 30 when hes at the top of his game. As always, you are entitled to your view but its wrong, in my opinion. If his body is not fit enough or his skills are not good enough or his is mentally unsuited to his sport, then he should not be picked. It is arrogance to "retire" before your time. Just not being arsed to play for your country is simply not good enough. The manager decides who is and who isn't good enough. He may be right, he may be wrong, but you should ALWAYS be prepared and willing (edit) and proud to pull on the jersey of your national team. In my opinion. Not arsed to play for his country?? Hes got 114 caps or something!! He isn't retiring before his time- thats the point. It IS his time. The only arrogance is people demanding he carries on when he knows himself he isn't up to it, and of course throwing stupid insults at him that have no foundation behind them at all. The blokes played for his country more than all but 3 other players FFS and captained it 30 odd times. Whatever sport that is in it deserves respect, but particularly in football. You're going on like he hasn't served his country or done enough to earn the right to decide when to step aside?!! Youre so wrong its ridiculous IMO |
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Post by Captainslapper on Jul 22, 2014 0:22:27 GMT 1
Think he played there for liverpool last season and by all accounts had a great season. That in a team challenging for the title. Wasn't great in the world cup but wasn't one of our worst players either. he just gets more attention because hes a big name player and the skipper. Been a great servant to his country and at his peak was a genuinely world class player - though id agree he didn't show that often enough for his country for whatever reason ( hes not alone in that - plenty of top players from various countries don't show the same form for the national side). If he doesn't feel hes going to be there in the next finals then hes done the right thing retiring. Don't know how anyone can complain at that when hes got over 100 caps! Didn't show often enough for his country, but was a great servant to his country? How does that work? He didn't show his club form often enough for his country- BUT HE EARNED 114 CAPS. Id say winning 114 caps represents being a great servant wouldn't you? He didn't CHOOSE to not carry his club form onto his international career you know. And even if he wasn't the same player for england as he has been for Liverpool, he was still one of englands best players over almost 15 years!!! Thats how it works! |
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Post by shawsie on Jul 22, 2014 7:19:45 GMT 1
An often over used word, but a great player for club........decent and no more than that for england.
Deserved his caps because he was the heartbeat of a club side struggling to reestablish itself as one of the best again, but out of 114 games cant think of more than a dozen real good ones for england.........hes not alone mind!
Benefitted from our national obsession with picking the best 11 individuals rather than best blend in the last couple of years but nevertheless a quality player.
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