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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man on Jul 23, 2014 14:48:32 GMT 1
If this is true then we have totally lost the plot on the signings front. After a season like the last, Wellens Peltier and Murphy just screams of relegation. not necessarily. Many have said we have a first XI capable of mid-table safety if all stay fit, but what we lack is depth/competition. I’m working on a few assumptions: 1. Clayton move will only happen if we get Butterfield and/or have a replacement lined up 2. Wellens is not seen as a like for like replacement and would be being sought regardless of any impending departure for Clayts If that is the case, then Wellens/Murphy/Peltier al fulfil one remit – add strength in depth. Wellens will be good enough to step in and work with a younger midfield – he can Marshall them and be the catalyst in getting the ball from deep – he can link defence with our midfield, and give the ball to Clayton and let him be the dynamo. Pelts is unlikely to let us down if and when he starts. Murphy will either oust Smithies or get Smithies to add the one thing he really lacks – consistency. Add to that a centre back, which based on Hodor Holgorsson’s trial (and Robins’ comments afterwards) we are clearly looking for and we are not really missing anything. Add again to that the hope that we can ship out Stead and/or Pato, we can bring in a striker to add a different option or competition to Vaughan and Wells…job done.
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Post by ritchie on Jul 23, 2014 14:53:38 GMT 1
What I dont get is why a player has to be over 30 to be experienced!! a 28 year old in his prime will have 10 years of experience yet his body wont have gone to shit. We need legs in midfield far more than we need experience.
Absolutely baffling if it happens. Not a terrible player but not what we need at all.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2014 14:55:58 GMT 1
A CARNT SPEYK.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2014 14:58:24 GMT 1
I know the quality at there top of there games was a wide contrast but look at what Ryan Giggs did for half a decade more than Wellens current age. The legs went a bit but he adjusted his game accordingley. Strength in depth and experience are things we are a little short of at this present moment in time. I will personally have more judgement after he's pulled on the Town shirt several times (if it happens)! So many are too quick on here to go into suicide mode when certain players are rumoured to be signing. Let's give them a chance before passing judgement. In Robins We Trust
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Post by Cosmo Kramer on Jul 23, 2014 15:03:59 GMT 1
I won't be happy with this signing
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Post by Melc on Jul 23, 2014 15:24:41 GMT 1
Funny thing is i rate him better than Andrews over a season. Very good passer of the ball and good at keeping the ball to gain a little bit if time while we have posession. Could be a big help to our younger midfielders, so let's just see before we all go mental on here.
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Post by kennyk2 on Jul 23, 2014 15:28:48 GMT 1
Funny thing is i rate him better than Andrews over a season. Very good passer of the ball and good at keeping the ball to gain a little bit if time while we have posession. Could be a big help to our younger midfielders, so let's just see before we all go mental on here. You're on the wrong board Melc. This is the "doom and gloom castigate a player though very few have ever seen him play" board!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2014 15:30:28 GMT 1
more news incoming from the unexamined......
HTAFC news ?@examinerhtafc 21m We will have an update on the Richie Wellens rumours shortly. #htafc
#wellenswatch
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Post by townatheart on Jul 23, 2014 15:42:50 GMT 1
If this is true then we have totally lost the plot on the signings front. After a season like the last, Wellens Peltier and Murphy just screams of relegation. not necessarily. Many have said we have a first XI capable of mid-table safety if all stay fit, but what we lack is depth/competition. I’m working on a few assumptions: 1. Clayton move will only happen if we get Butterfield and/or have a replacement lined up 2. Wellens is not seen as a like for like replacement and would be being sought regardless of any impending departure for Clayts If that is the case, then Wellens/Murphy/Peltier al fulfil one remit – add strength in depth. Wellens will be good enough to step in and work with a younger midfield – he can Marshall them and be the catalyst in getting the ball from deep – he can link defence with our midfield, and give the ball to Clayton and let him be the dynamo. Pelts is unlikely to let us down if and when he starts. Murphy will either oust Smithies or get Smithies to add the one thing he really lacks – consistency. Add to that a centre back, which based on Hodor Holgorsson’s trial (and Robins’ comments afterwards) we are clearly looking for and we are not really missing anything. Add again to that the hope that we can ship out Stead and/or Pato, we can bring in a striker to add a different option or competition to Vaughan and Wells…job done. while you are going againist the gloom and doom trend, appauld you for an attempt to be sensible and looking for potential positives.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2014 15:43:16 GMT 1
I think the age thing is given too much relevance anyway, as people have different bodies and age differently anyway.
In the same way that you have people who are crippled with arthritis by the time they are 30, and yet folk in their 80s still doing stuff like fell-running; you will also see footballers who are past it by the time they are in their late 20s, and others who are still going strong at 40.
It all depends on how strong their bodies and minds are, in combination with how well they've looked after themselves.
Yes statistically a player in their mid thirties should struggle more than one in their late twenties, but this is not necessarily the case
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Post by hartyhtfc on Jul 23, 2014 15:45:33 GMT 1
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man on Jul 23, 2014 15:51:40 GMT 1
I refer the honourable gentleman to my post of some moments ago... West Yorkshire Sport ?@wysdaily · 7 mins .@bbcleeds understands Huddersfield Town looking at Doncaster's Richie Wellens as a potential signing. No bid in yet though This is no surprise - Oggy IS BBCleeds...hardly corroboration. Oggy/BBCLeeds/BBCSport = 1 and the same...
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Post by H7 on Jul 23, 2014 15:54:27 GMT 1
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Post by bluedogs, Esq. on Jul 23, 2014 15:58:13 GMT 1
by jove that was a close one
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Post by Essex Terrier on Jul 23, 2014 16:04:56 GMT 1
not sure I agree with you 100%, they are not signings to set the blood racing for sure. But, why Murphy - if he is no better than Smithies it will be the same as last year in goal, if he is better, it will be an improvement. Give the guy a chance to pull his gloves on?!! Nothing wrong with Murphy Per say but he is not a signing that will in any way help us to avoid relegation, especially given Smithies is better (in my opinion). Wellens reminds me of a shitter version of a Kilbane fair enough!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2014 16:07:32 GMT 1
by jove that was a close one Told you so 2 hours ago... The newsnetwork was correct again. 72% success rate and climbing.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2014 16:10:12 GMT 1
by jove that was a close one Told you so 2 hours ago... The newsnetwork was correct again. 72% success rate and climbing.
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Post by Essex Terrier on Jul 23, 2014 16:10:53 GMT 1
Anyone else feel like you're an actor in some low budget, HTAFC version of The Truman Show, and that when a rumour is posted that everyone shows agreement with, and only then, we will sign him?
Not about to happen any time soon.
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Post by townatheart on Jul 23, 2014 16:14:14 GMT 1
Anyone else feel like you're an actor in some low budget, HTAFC version of The Truman Show, and that when a rumour is posted that everyone shows agreement with, and only then, we will sign him? Not about to happen any time soon. NEVER EVER EVER is that going to happen, as there will always be someone on here who will have a moan about anything or anybody suicide
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2014 16:17:47 GMT 1
Funny thing is i rate him better than Andrews over a season. Very good passer of the ball and good at keeping the ball to gain a little bit if time while we have posession. Could be a big help to our younger midfielders, so let's just see before we all go mental on here. I hadn't heard of Keith Andrews before he was linked with us, and not convinced I've ever seen him play. Ritchie Wellens always seems to be annoyingly good against us. And looks like one of those players who settled into being "old" quite early on, so its not as though his legs are suddenly going to go, Stead style. Disappointing, but a good replacement for Robinson and Gobern for sure, one year deal to give the young lads chance to stake a claim so we don't have to spend cash next summer.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2014 16:22:52 GMT 1
Why are folk just laying the blame at Robins door? Has anyone thought it may be Hoyles stance on the FFP & he won't shell the money out for who Robins wants so he's having to look in the bargain basement for free transfers?
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man on Jul 23, 2014 16:25:17 GMT 1
by jove that was a close one Agreed. Wellens is currently moving out of the house he'd just rented an hour ago not 15 minutes from the stadium.
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Post by stevvy on Jul 23, 2014 16:25:23 GMT 1
by jove that was a close one Told you so 2 hours ago... The newsnetwork was correct again. 72% success rate and climbing. No, you just said it wasn't on the supposed newsnetwork (which is bullshit anyway) which means absolutely naff all. The supposed success rate crap just makes you sound like a complete ass on top of that.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2014 16:25:50 GMT 1
by jove that was a close one Told you so 2 hours ago... The newsnetwork was correct again. 72% success rate and climbing.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2014 16:26:26 GMT 1
Why are folk just laying the blame at Robins door? Has anyone thought it may be Hoyles stance on the FFP & he won't shell the money out for who Robins wants so he's having to look in the bargain basement for free transfers? What like the 1.3 Million for Nahki Wells?
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Post by fredcarno1 on Jul 23, 2014 16:28:43 GMT 1
I find it funny after some of the names that were / are being bandied about that we are looking at players like Wellens who are well past their sell by date. To think some people started off the season talking of players like Peter Whittingham and Robert Koren !!
I think you've hit the nail on the head Moaner and if we've nowt to spend on players I'd sooner see us throwing in the likes of Billing and Holmes rather than yet another in a long line of over the hill journeymen. Have we learned nothing from signing the likes of Southern, Kilbane and Tommy Miller.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2014 16:28:57 GMT 1
Why are folk just laying the blame at Robins door? Has anyone thought it may be Hoyles stance on the FFP & he won't shell the money out for who Robins wants so he's having to look in the bargain basement for free transfers? What like the 1.3 Million for Nahki Wells? We signed Wells in January, I'm talking about summer signings & as far as I know the FFP wasn't in then. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Post by King Curtis on Jul 23, 2014 16:46:38 GMT 1
What like the 1.3 Million for Nahki Wells? We signed Wells in January, I'm talking about summer signings & as far as I know the FFP wasn't in then. Correct me if I'm wrong. You're wrong.
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Post by patfield on Jul 23, 2014 16:50:04 GMT 1
Panic buy
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