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Post by AndySk on Jul 27, 2014 13:04:10 GMT 1
Crikey hit those panic buttons - we rest an injury prone player with a niggle for a preseason friendly. How can that be anything but sensible management. Lets buy an expensive striker who can sit on the bench when Wells and Vaughan are fit. Surely the better option is to loan a replacement when needed rather than pay a salary for the whole year for a player who should be a. Good enough to replace Vaughan when needed. b. Content enough to sit on the bench when Vaughan is fit. Sent from my GT-I9300 using proboards Maybe we ought to start looking at the Vaughan issue t'other way round. We need a very capable new striker looking to start every game who Vaughan needs to be challenging for a game if fit. I feel sorry for the lad as he has had a lot of problems but we can't let his presence or absence define our season - and future. Tough financially and possibly solvable via the loan market - but I can't see anything but a struggle for us with Wells as a lone ranger. Spot on. Great player is Vaughany but any games he plays are a bonus. We kinda knew this when we signed him which is why we got a player of his talent so cheap. The games he did play played a massive part in helping us stay up, hopefuly get another 20/25 this season but i doubt we'll see more. TBH Wells is more important to us anyway. Looks a cracking player already and only gonna get better, a better finisher than Vaughan and his all round play is a lot better than i expected. Really hope we get to see Wells and Vaughan up front together quite a bit as they'll be a real handful however we really could do with an adequate replacement. If owt happens to Wells for any length of time we're gonna struggle
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Post by wasp on Jul 27, 2014 13:05:41 GMT 1
Crikey hit those panic buttons - we rest an injury prone player with a niggle for a preseason friendly. How can that be anything but sensible management. Lets buy an expensive striker who can sit on the bench when Wells and Vaughan are fit. Surely the better option is to loan a replacement when needed rather than pay a salary for the whole year for a player who should be a. Good enough to replace Vaughan when needed. b. Content enough to sit on the bench when Vaughan is fit. Sent from my GT-I9300 using proboards Define "niggle" If you can't I will. He couldn't be fecking arsed!
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jul 27, 2014 13:12:41 GMT 1
Crikey hit those panic buttons - we rest an injury prone player with a niggle for a preseason friendly. How can that be anything but sensible management. Lets buy an expensive striker who can sit on the bench when Wells and Vaughan are fit. Surely the better option is to loan a replacement when needed rather than pay a salary for the whole year for a player who should be a. Good enough to replace Vaughan when needed. b. Content enough to sit on the bench when Vaughan is fit. Sent from my GT-I9300 using proboards Define "niggle" If you can't I will. He couldn't be fecking arsed! Yeah because Vaughan has no passion to play for HTAFC, does he?
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Post by wasp on Jul 27, 2014 13:15:00 GMT 1
Define "niggle" If you can't I will. He couldn't be fecking arsed! Yeah because Vaughan has no passion to play for HTAFC, does he? No he doesn't! Made up half baked injuries!!!!
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jul 27, 2014 13:23:10 GMT 1
Yeah because Vaughan has no passion to play for HTAFC, does he? No he doesn't! Made up half baked injuries!!!! Agree, must be our worst signing ever..
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Post by wasp on Jul 27, 2014 13:36:24 GMT 1
No he doesn't! Made up half baked injuries!!!! Agree, must be our worst signing ever.. He's costing the club a fortune in wages for not playing. I'd sack him for not fulfilling his contract
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jul 27, 2014 13:42:42 GMT 1
Agree, must be our worst signing ever.. He's costing the club a fortune in wages for not playing. I'd sack him for not fulfilling his contract Scored something like 26 goals in what is effectively one whole season.. If he didn't have these injuries do you really think he'd be playing championship football?
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Post by wasp on Jul 27, 2014 14:08:38 GMT 1
He's costing the club a fortune in wages for not playing. I'd sack him for not fulfilling his contract Scored something like 26 goals in what is effectively one whole season.. If he didn't have these injuries do you really think he'd be playing championship football? No he wouldn't, but it's not about ifs and buts is it
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jul 27, 2014 14:14:25 GMT 1
Scored something like 26 goals in what is effectively one whole season.. If he didn't have these injuries do you really think he'd be playing championship football? No he wouldn't, but it's not about ifs and buts is it IF he didn't have these injuries then he would be in the premier league BUT he does which means he plays in the championship with us.. So technically yes it is about ifs & buts.
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Post by wasp on Jul 27, 2014 14:18:31 GMT 1
No he wouldn't, but it's not about ifs and buts is it IF he didn't have these injuries then he would be in the premier league BUT he does which means he plays in the championship with us.. So technically yes it is about ifs & buts. If I won 80, 000,000,000,000 quid on the euro lottery I'd buy the club and sack Vaughan and robins, but I haven't and never will so I can't
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jul 27, 2014 14:26:20 GMT 1
IF he didn't have these injuries then he would be in the premier league BUT he does which means he plays in the championship with us.. So technically yes it is about ifs & buts. If I won 80, 000,000,000,000 quid on the euro lottery I'd buy the club and sack Vaughan and robins, but I haven't and never will so I can't To be fair, i don't think anyone has ever won that much on the lottery.
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Post by bluedogs, Esq. on Jul 27, 2014 14:26:53 GMT 1
IF he didn't have these injuries then he would be in the premier league BUT he does which means he plays in the championship with us.. So technically yes it is about ifs & buts. If I won 80, 000,000,000,000 quid on the euro lottery I'd buy the club and sack Vaughan and robins, but I haven't and never will so I can't Here you are link
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Post by duncfost01 on Jul 27, 2014 16:05:04 GMT 1
Crikey hit those panic buttons - we rest an injury prone player with a niggle for a preseason friendly. How can that be anything but sensible management. Lets buy an expensive striker who can sit on the bench when Wells and Vaughan are fit. Surely the better option is to loan a replacement when needed rather than pay a salary for the whole year for a player who should be a. Good enough to replace Vaughan when needed. b. Content enough to sit on the bench when Vaughan is fit. Sent from my GT-I9300 using proboards Why would any player come to a club if they were equally as the player with the "shirt" and sit on the bench ?
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Jul 28, 2014 1:45:02 GMT 1
Maybe we ought to start looking at the Vaughan issue t'other way round. We need a very capable new striker looking to start every game who Vaughan needs to be challenging for a game if fit. I feel sorry for the lad as he has had a lot of problems but we can't let his presence or absence define our season - and future. Tough financially and possibly solvable via the loan market - but I can't see anything but a struggle for us with Wells as a lone ranger. Sorry Doc but I agree with goodshot... Vaughany is our bonus striker, not our main man. Nothing knee jerk about it. The problem has been staring us in the face for months. Only a fool would build around James Vaughan. Whilst I believe it is a commendable idea to get a striker who is good enough to keep a fully fit Vaughan out of the side. I really cannot see how our budget would extend to such lengths to get better than someone who we signed at a discount 600k and was widely valued at anywhere between £2m - £6m during his purple patch at the beginning of the season. Who is saying that we build a team around him? I was merely suggesting a sensible and prudent approach for replacing him if/when he is unable to start. Sadly, I suspect within our budget we can't afford a 'bonus' player on his wages so he is an integral part of the squad that needs utilising when fit. I personally hope that Vaughan himself matures a little to ensure that he doesn't incur the wrath of the officials this season, with stupid dissent and retaliation that mean he receives needless suspensions when fit.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2014 7:54:41 GMT 1
Sorry Doc but I agree with goodshot... Vaughany is our bonus striker, not our main man. Nothing knee jerk about it. The problem has been staring us in the face for months. Only a fool would build around James Vaughan. Whilst I believe it is a commendable idea to get a striker who is good enough to keep a fully fit Vaughan out of the side. I really cannot see how our budget would extend to such lengths to get better than someone who we signed at a discount 600k and was widely valued at anywhere between £2m - £6m during his purple patch at the beginning of the season. Who is saying that we build a team around him? I was merely suggesting a sensible and prudent approach for replacing him if/when he is unable to start. Sadly, I suspect within our budget we can't afford a 'bonus' player on his wages so he is an integral part of the squad that needs utilising when fit. I personally hope that Vaughan himself matures a little to ensure that he doesn't incur the wrath of the officials this season, with stupid dissent and retaliation that mean he receives needless suspensions when fit. Hopefully Wells can reach a 20 plus goal mark this season with Vaughan but when/if Vaughan misses games this then becomes a pretty unrealistic target whereby another striker becomes a must buy and preferably a target man type in the mould of Hanson
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Post by bluedogs, Esq. on Jul 28, 2014 9:42:16 GMT 1
Mark Robins assesses James Vaughan for Sheffield United test link
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Post by SN0W on Jul 28, 2014 10:03:37 GMT 1
Mark Robins assesses James Vaughan for Sheffield United test link'Mark Robins promised Huddersfield Town will improve quickly as he assesses selection options for Tuesday night’s trip to Sheffield United.' There you go - he's promised.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jul 28, 2014 10:08:41 GMT 1
Vaughan might get 20 minutes against the blades.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2014 10:11:52 GMT 1
Why risk it?? Its a long season, If he is not 100% and can't play 90 mins then he should be no-where near the pitch.
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Post by bluedogs, Esq. on Jul 28, 2014 10:16:35 GMT 1
Mark Robins assesses James Vaughan for Sheffield United test link'Mark Robins promised Huddersfield Town will improve quickly as he assesses selection options for Tuesday night’s trip to Sheffield United.' There you go - he's promised. Mark Robins must trust the players not to screw him over
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Post by ram on Jul 28, 2014 10:52:39 GMT 1
Maybe we ought to start looking at the Vaughan issue t'other way round. We need a very capable new striker looking to start every game who Vaughan needs to be challenging for a game if fit. I feel sorry for the lad as he has had a lot of problems but we can't let his presence or absence define our season - and future. Tough financially and possibly solvable via the loan market - but I can't see anything but a struggle for us with Wells as a lone ranger. Agree 100 %. , wells alone does not work, we've seen it,. Yes Nick,we might have seen it,unfortunately the bloke who picks the team hasn,t!
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Post by huddersviking on Jul 28, 2014 12:20:20 GMT 1
Its things like this that really annoys me about the club!
In all fairness, they did not have to give a reason to why Vaughan was not in squad for a pre-season friendly. Telling the fans that a player who is injury prone is struggling with fitness/injury in pre season is just going to fuel panic with fans.
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Post by Fullisheight on Jul 28, 2014 12:36:02 GMT 1
Its things like this that really annoys me about the club! In all fairness, they did not have to give a reason to why Vaughan was not in squad for a pre-season friendly. Telling the fans that a player who is injury prone is struggling with fitness/injury in pre season is just going to fuel panic with fans. They didn't. They said he had a tight calf on Friday, he could still feel it on the Saturday morning so they decided it was pointless risking it. No mention of him struggling for fitness and if it had been any other player it would probably have gone un noticed or be seen as a sensible precaution.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2014 10:12:39 GMT 1
Town just released statement to confirm Vaughan will miss Oldham game and unsure how long will be out for. Maybe 2 days, or 2 weeks. Surely Robins must be looking into bringing a new striker in.
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Post by Sio on Aug 1, 2014 10:21:24 GMT 1
Always been patient with the Vaughan situation but this is getting ridiculous now. If he can't cope with the strains of pre-season then how's he going to play more than 50% of the games this season? Fully appreciate that Dean has spent a lot of his hard earned cash on this club, but we really need to look into splashing out on a partner for Nahki now.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2014 10:23:32 GMT 1
tis a joke now.
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Post by thomo on Aug 1, 2014 10:30:10 GMT 1
Town just released statement to confirm Vaughan will miss Oldham game and unsure how long will be out for. Maybe 2 days, or 2 weeks. Surely Robins must be looking into bringing a new striker in. Totally agree. Need to get off to a good start - would be foolish of us to be starting with pato or ward alongside wells - we know it doesn't work and we struggle to win games with those combinations end of story. Given Vaughan's had so much time on the sidelines in pre season and missed the friendlies he'll probably not be sharp enough to start anyway.
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Post by colnevalleyblue on Aug 1, 2014 10:31:58 GMT 1
Bad news for Town, even worse news for Vaughan. So much talent and really should be hitting the prime of his career, what was the last competitive fixture he featured in ?
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Post by midlander on Aug 1, 2014 10:35:09 GMT 1
Was it Blackburn at home?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2014 10:36:06 GMT 1
Any links to the statement cant find anything only that in the examiner robins says he hopes he will be fit for saturday?
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