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Post by zingzilla on Sept 29, 2014 14:49:57 GMT 1
If hammill was our best player I wouldnt care, hes a scum bag and a waste of space. If I was in charge he would be nowhere near a football club where kids watch him and read about him. The boys a liability and should of been punished accordingley, not a slap on the wrists. He should be capped to earning 150 pounds per week no matter his job. That would get him thinking, if he can think
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2014 14:55:53 GMT 1
If hammill was our best player I wouldnt care, hes a scum bag and a waste of space. If I was in charge he would be nowhere near a football club where kids watch him and read about him. The boys a liability and should of been punished accordingley, not a slap on the wrists. He should be capped to earning 150 pounds per week no matter his job. That would get him thinking, if he can think F#ck me! I dread to think what you would do to an actual criminal, hung drawn and quartered? Btw whats who he nails got to do with you? Jealous a little bit maybe.
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Post by zingzilla on Sept 29, 2014 15:03:10 GMT 1
If hammill was our best player I wouldnt care, hes a scum bag and a waste of space. If I was in charge he would be nowhere near a football club where kids watch him and read about him. The boys a liability and should of been punished accordingley, not a slap on the wrists. He should be capped to earning 150 pounds per week no matter his job. That would get him thinking, if he can think F#ck me! I dread to think what you would do to an actual criminal, hung drawn and quartered? Btw whats who he nails got to do with you? Jealous a little bit maybe. its about him battering a paramedic in the line of duty. So to me he is a genuine criminal. Any person found guilty of a assault on a public servant should be punished by atleast 6 months hard labour in squalid conditions with no outside contact. Just because hes a footballer doesnt make him exempt. Our fate would have been alot different. Just like oscar pistorious. He should of being terminated 6 months ago, but thats a different story for a different thread. Footballers are humans just as you and I.
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Post by Sio on Sept 29, 2014 15:08:15 GMT 1
F#ck me! I dread to think what you would do to an actual criminal, hung drawn and quartered? Btw whats who he nails got to do with you? Jealous a little bit maybe. its about him battering a paramedic in the line of duty. So to me he is a genuine criminal. Any person found guilty of a assault on a public servant should be punished by atleast 6 months hard labour in squalid conditions with no outside contact. Just because hes a footballer doesnt make him exempt. Our fate would have been alot different. Just like oscar pistorious. He should of being terminated 6 months ago, but thats a different story for a different thread. Footballers are humans just as you and I. You'd think we were living in Stalinist Russia or something
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2014 15:13:10 GMT 1
F#ck me! I dread to think what you would do to an actual criminal, hung drawn and quartered? Btw whats who he nails got to do with you? Jealous a little bit maybe. its about him battering a paramedic in the line of duty. So to me he is a genuine criminal. Any person found guilty of a assault on a public servant should be punished by atleast 6 months hard labour in squalid conditions with no outside contact. Just because hes a footballer doesnt make him exempt. Our fate would have been alot different. Just like oscar pistorious. He should of being terminated 6 months ago, but thats a different story for a different thread. Footballers are humans just as you and I. The guys not being convicted and from what ive heard it was a drunken mistake. Thats the way this country is though the more money you have the more you can get away with, wrong? yes, but if you want to get into the politics of this kind of thing I think there is much worse cases than Hammils.
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Post by zingzilla on Sept 29, 2014 15:16:32 GMT 1
its about him battering a paramedic in the line of duty. So to me he is a genuine criminal. Any person found guilty of a assault on a public servant should be punished by atleast 6 months hard labour in squalid conditions with no outside contact. Just because hes a footballer doesnt make him exempt. Our fate would have been alot different. Just like oscar pistorious. He should of being terminated 6 months ago, but thats a different story for a different thread. Footballers are humans just as you and I. The guys not being convicted and from what ive heard it was a drunken mistake. Thats the way this country is though the more money you have the more you can get away with, wrong? yes, but if you want to get into the politics of this kind of thing I think there is much worse cases than Hammils. sorry I didnt realise he was drunk. I apologise mr hammil it wasnt your fault it was the drink, off you go to play some football. Dont make me laugh! Yeah michael barrymore is one example but thats a different story
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2014 15:22:33 GMT 1
its about him battering a paramedic in the line of duty. So to me he is a genuine criminal. Any person found guilty of a assault on a public servant should be punished by atleast 6 months hard labour in squalid conditions with no outside contact. Just because hes a footballer doesnt make him exempt. Our fate would have been alot different. Just like oscar pistorious. He should of being terminated 6 months ago, but thats a different story for a different thread. Footballers are humans just as you and I. The guys not being convicted He pleaded guilty to two counts of assault, got a 12 week suspended sentence, 150 hours of unpaid work and to pay £350 to each of the paramedics.
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Sept 29, 2014 15:27:41 GMT 1
its about him battering a paramedic in the line of duty. So to me he is a genuine criminal. Any person found guilty of a assault on a public servant should be punished by atleast 6 months hard labour in squalid conditions with no outside contact. Just because hes a footballer doesnt make him exempt. Our fate would have been alot different. Just like oscar pistorious. He should of being terminated 6 months ago, but thats a different story for a different thread. Footballers are humans just as you and I. The guys not being convicted and from what ive heard it was a drunken mistake. Thats the way this country is though the more money you have the more you can get away with, wrong? yes, but if you want to get into the politics of this kind of thing I think there is much worse cases than Hammils. Unless we're talking about a different incident then he was convicted and ordered to do 200 hours community service which given that fact that this was several months before we signed him permanently I would presume he's served his penance. It was reported that he'd lashed out/swung his arm at a paramedic which is a little bit different from the word "battered" which I would interpret has giving somebody a right going over. We signed him knowing what had happened previously so unless he's in trouble again then we should get off his case. Edit: Smithfield may be a bit more accurate than me in the actual sentencing
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Post by zingzilla on Sept 29, 2014 15:48:36 GMT 1
Which is why I disagree with him being at huddersfield and that punishment is nothing infact its pathetic
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Post by royrace on Sept 29, 2014 15:56:13 GMT 1
The guys not being convicted and from what ive heard it was a drunken mistake. Thats the way this country is though the more money you have the more you can get away with, wrong? yes, but if you want to get into the politics of this kind of thing I think there is much worse cases than Hammils. sorry I didnt realise he was drunk. I apologise mr hammil it wasnt your fault it was the drink, off you go to play some football. Dont make me laugh! Yeah michael barrymore is one example but thats a different story More to the point he was drunk and concussed after being twatted by a bouncer, doesnt make it acceptable but i dont think he would have been attacking female paramedics had he just been drunk. When someone comes round from concussion they can be very confused. Not nice behaviour but more to it than meets the eye.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2014 16:06:09 GMT 1
If hammill was our best player I wouldnt care, hes a scum bag and a waste of space. If I was in charge he would be nowhere near a football club where kids watch him and read about him. The boys a liability and should of been punished accordingley, not a slap on the wrists. He should be capped to earning 150 pounds per week no matter his job. That would get him thinking, if he can think WUM
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Post by zingzilla on Sept 29, 2014 16:06:23 GMT 1
sorry I didnt realise he was drunk. I apologise mr hammil it wasnt your fault it was the drink, off you go to play some football. Dont make me laugh! Yeah michael barrymore is one example but thats a different story More to the point he was drunk and concussed after being twatted by a bouncer, doesnt make it acceptable but i dont think he would have been attacking female paramedics had he just been drunk. When someone comes round from concussion they can be very confused. Not nice behaviour but more to it than meets the eye. what led to the bouncers giving him concussion then. I think its abit sad and pathetic that people are defending him just because he plays for town. Cant be.bothered talking about him anymore hes just a spec of bacteria that gets paid for nothing. A germ that by the sounds of it infects everything it goes near
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2014 16:07:50 GMT 1
sorry I didnt realise he was drunk. I apologise mr hammil it wasnt your fault it was the drink, off you go to play some football. Dont make me laugh! Yeah michael barrymore is one example but thats a different story More to the point he was drunk and concussed after being twatted by a bouncer, doesnt make it acceptable but i dont think he would have been attacking female paramedics had he just been drunk. When someone comes round from concussion they can be very confused. Not nice behaviour but more to it than meets the eye. Who told you he was hit by a bouncer?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2014 16:27:30 GMT 1
More to the point he was drunk and concussed after being twatted by a bouncer, doesnt make it acceptable but i dont think he would have been attacking female paramedics had he just been drunk. When someone comes round from concussion they can be very confused. Not nice behaviour but more to it than meets the eye. Who told you he was hit by a bouncer? The report at the time, and the user on here who worked in the club and saw the cctv
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2014 16:38:40 GMT 1
Who told you he was hit by a bouncer? The report at the time, and the user on here who worked in the club and saw the cctv There's not really much point in going into all this now but I was manager of the Revolution bar across the street from Moniques and shift manager the night he bust the paramedics nose. I'd be really interested to know who the user was who worked in Moniques and saw the CCTV was as I knew most of their staff and never came across a Town fan in the years it was open, and also the fact that he saw the CCTV of him being hit by a bouncer yet no assault charge was ever brought by Hammill, as a doorman isn't allowed to punch somebody unconscious (or punch them really) I'm not saying he wasn't assaulted, just wondering why... It's odd that he accepted the charges but didn't press charges against the doormen of Moniques, especially as it was on CCTV and a user on here posted that he'd seen it. Odd too that the Police didn't charge the doormen as they would have had a copy of the CCTV too. Also I'm trying to make the link between coming round from being unconscious and being confused....and trying to bite the paramedics and spit at them....
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2014 16:58:25 GMT 1
Sorry i wasn't aware he'd been convicted, doesn't really change my opinion though. Would it be fair to say some of those critisising him think that footballers should be role models? if so I don't buy into that b*llocks if thats what we've come to societies screwed.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2014 17:01:04 GMT 1
Bloody hell Smithfield to say you will have been in charge of doormen i would have thought you'd know what its like in the real world.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2014 17:07:32 GMT 1
Bloody hell Smithfield to say you will have been in charge of doormen i would have thought you'd know what its like in the real world. Yeah and I know on a street as infamous, busy, troublesome and mass-policed as Mathew Street doormen lose their SIA badges if they assault people. Something as high profile as an assault on paramedic would have police in next day to get all CCTV burned on disk and supplied as evidence. I'm not saying it didn't happen.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2014 17:13:11 GMT 1
Fair point, through personal experience though i class doormen in the same category as referees even if they're wrong they're right! Still whatever went on imo the guy deserves a second chance.
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Post by Essex Terrier on Sept 29, 2014 17:27:31 GMT 1
While we are in the mood of forgiving drunken young men for things they do while under the influence, especially if they play for the club you support, and seeing as we need a striker come November, how long before this turns into a Ched Evans thread?
Only askin'
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Post by galpharm2400 on Sept 29, 2014 17:31:42 GMT 1
Do the club believe it is affecting his work??
yes = final warnings and then gone
no = he is a contracted player and his personal life, if a little messy, isn't intefereing with his work and isn't their or our concern.
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Post by yorkie1 on Sept 29, 2014 18:02:53 GMT 1
This zingzilla dude needs to get back on the Ritalin and calm down with this moralistic crap.
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Post by thrice on Sept 29, 2014 21:42:08 GMT 1
So why hasn't he been playing/available of late?
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Post by benhtafc on Sept 30, 2014 4:06:01 GMT 1
this is becoming a common problem with players. something needs to be done. why not provide a club escort or something along these lines. we now dont know what disease hammills spreading through the town camp. at least if we provided them with a alternative whom is checked regular then there performance on the pitch would improve. even saying look if you provide a assist or a goal you will have first dabs. as long as powell doesnt get there first because we could all safely say she would be destroyed. feel for his partner though especially considering she will be bearing his child shortly. he really is a scum bag and cant believe were employing him. first he batters a paramedic and then molests a bloody stripper. whats next I very much doubt there was much molesting going on, how much convincing would a stripper (or most girls for that matter) need to shag a professional footballer? I think you need to be careful what you accuse people of...
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Post by benhtafc on Sept 30, 2014 4:11:18 GMT 1
While we are in the mood of forgiving drunken young men for things they do while under the influence, especially if they play for the club you support, and seeing as we need a striker come November, how long before this turns into a Ched Evans thread? Only askin' Defending convicted rapists is a bit different from defending a guy who went home with a stripper. It has nothing to do with us, or the club, if he was in a relationship at the time. His life, his choices, and I am sure he is living with the consequences. If it does not affect his football then he can do what he likes, and if he gets 15 assists this season I'll buy him a stripper to keep tied up in his boot if thats what he wants.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2014 10:28:10 GMT 1
It is affecting his football though. More time out due to off field antics. He's unprofessional. I expect him to be gone in January. Another guy with ability that we rarely see. For town to be successful in this league we need a squad with every individual contributing and working hard for the cause.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Sept 30, 2014 11:05:08 GMT 1
not sure we are not picking him because of a run in with a stripper and his girlfriend(alledged)..
If he couldn't put that to one side and play without it affecting his game, he wouldn't play for me ever again. Its not a personal/family tragedy, its gross stupidity.
If he lets stupidity in his personal life affect his game , as I said above , he is gone for me.
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 30, 2014 11:17:42 GMT 1
Or just maybe he isn't doing it in training at the moment and therefore not getting picked, this threads a bit "holier than thou"
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2014 11:24:44 GMT 1
Or just maybe he isn't doing it in training at the moment and therefore not getting picked, this threads a bit "holier than thou" Sent from my GT-I9505 using proboards Agreed, I also remember Robins saying, 'it wouldn't be long before he would be paying to play' due to his regular fines for indiscipline.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2014 11:40:32 GMT 1
Or just maybe he isn't doing it in training at the moment and therefore not getting picked, this threads a bit "holier than thou" Sent from my GT-I9505 using proboards But why isn't he 'doing it' in training? That's the point. He's not focussed on football, just going through the motions? Powell said he had some problems at the moment. As a new manager he didn't hang him out to dry but he didn't say anything as plain as 'he's injured'. Just don't be surprised if he's one to be gone soon either on loan or in Jan. Wage bill needs freeing up for powell's choices of reinforcement and we've already got 5 wingers at the club.
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