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Post by kennyk2 on Aug 11, 2014 7:14:59 GMT 1
I'm embarrassed to be a fan of the club right now. Everything is done in the wrong way Embarrassed? Really? Slightly over dramatic in my opinion...but hey ho crack on with your shame It's a cumulative effect of bad vibes emanating from the club at the moment, from Mel Smooth's burnt pizza (I'm not taking the piss), to this. Something here is not right - there's a reet nasty smell coming out of HD1 at the moment, and it's not Mel Smooth's pizza.
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Post by Spunker on Aug 11, 2014 7:20:23 GMT 1
Not sure what it means for either club or why it is necessary to have an affiliation but you'd have thought all this community and Yorkshire Club bullshit would mean they'd love to have the Ladies on board.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2014 7:20:46 GMT 1
In my opinion the poor relationship with town ladies has gone on for years. A lot of it is because of the loose association. They want to be associated with town, yet develop their own facilities away from canalside/galpharm at lascelles hall. The mens semi pro club who play there (not sure of their name) have had extremely large amounts of funding based on their association with women's football. They have also recently been promoted to lower part of the football league. So to come demanding money for kits is a little rich when they are directly associated with another club who play in the semi professional football pyramid.
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Aug 11, 2014 7:35:42 GMT 1
We could always get them in headscarves and jogging bottoms and then twin them with Palestine ladies FC. A headscarf is de rigeur now in Hudderstan. If this story is true its very sad...family club my arse as Jim Royle would say. Give it a rest for five minutes man. Headscarves aren't that common in Palestine, anyway. Certainly no one wears a veil. No headscarves in Palestine? You could have fooled me. If you agree with the mass control, subjugation and enslavement of half the worlds population carry on. 40 years i have lived amongst Moslem women in Huddersfield.....every last one has avoided any social contact or verbal communication with myself because they belong to someone/something else....its the Dark Ages all over again man....and you dress it up as MY racist view. I would love to enforce you to wear a veil, headscarf (hijab/niqab/burqa), longs pants and be denied access to the company of the opposite sex (forever), denied education, work opportunity or even personal freedoms like just going for a walk alone. Wake up fella!
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Post by mids on Aug 11, 2014 7:42:01 GMT 1
Embarrassed? Really? Slightly over dramatic in my opinion...but hey ho crack on with your shame I think the events of this weekend have been very embarrassing, both on and off the pitch. Wouldn't you agree? I was f**ked off with the performance on the pitch, and from the dugout, on Saturday....I wouldn't say i was embarrassed though. The rest of the stuff off the field is (to me) intriguing rather than embarrassing. It's all a bit odd, but I'm confident the truth (or part of it at least) will come out soon enough. To be honest, this weekend, I was more embarrassed for Frank Maloney...and for running99 thinking I was Dean Hoyle
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Post by gledholt terrier on Aug 11, 2014 7:54:33 GMT 1
every last one has avoided any social contact or verbal communication with myself because ........... Fill in the gaps
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Aug 11, 2014 8:42:33 GMT 1
The wrong thread for my distaste of the Moslems treatment of women...i accept and apologise for that. It broke my heart this morning to read of ISIS burying Yazidi women and children alive....i despise Islamism and everything it horribly stands for. Lets hope our club do the right thing and support Huddersfield Ladies as much as possible.
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Post by huddersviking on Aug 11, 2014 8:56:48 GMT 1
Credit to the town board for doing it the correct way. You only have to look at the mess Leeds Utd made with there ladies team to see how it can be done wrong. With the super league now closed, I suspect that more clubs will go down this path and separate links with the ladies teams. I guess that the ladies have asked for money, support and to come under direct control on the "main" club. Which I believe you need to put a application for super league status. However it can be highly costly and im guessing the board have decided it would not be beneficial for the club as a whole to attempt a super league application.
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Post by seanyd1brit on Sept 10, 2014 15:52:52 GMT 1
There has to be more to this than meets the eye. Seems like Town have nothing further to say on the matter, but it's making them look really bad because from what has been talked about publicly they just seem like they're being petty. I highly doubt the "cost" to Town is more than the benefit to the town, the club's brand and to girls' football. Especially given that kit marketing photo.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2014 16:03:57 GMT 1
Most interesting from Clibbens was not explaining why this decision was made, although nobody asked that question in fairness.
"The board felt it was the right decision" - on what grounds?! Somebody needs to ask this on Thursday!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2014 16:09:20 GMT 1
There has to be more to this than meets the eye. Seems like Town have nothing further to say on the matter, but it's making them look really bad because from what has been talked about publicly they just seem like they're being petty. I highly doubt the "cost" to Town is more than the benefit to the town, the club's brand and to girls' football. Especially given that kit marketing photo. I read it as the club made a decision, and the ladies decided to take their anger public, as if that was ever going to change the clubs mind. Question marks over the reasoning behind the decision for sure, but I dont think theres really any need for the vitrol that has followed since...mostly one way. In 18 months time it will be history. Hopefully both clubs remain on the up.
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Post by bro600 on Sept 10, 2014 16:13:46 GMT 1
He did say that he wasn't going to get into a "they said" "we said" situation about it which kind of indicates a poor communication scenario from one or both parties..
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Post by 3Pipe on Sept 10, 2014 16:21:16 GMT 1
10 grand for a few kits was taking the piss. Deano's not a bottomless pit.
Not surprised we bailed and wish them good luck.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2014 16:27:40 GMT 1
Are there any plans to adopt another ladies team, or maybe put up the money for an 'in-house' option?
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Post by terrierng on Sept 10, 2014 18:24:50 GMT 1
10 grand for a few kits was taking the piss. Deano's not a bottomless pit. Not surprised we bailed and wish them good luck. Where you get that figure? If its true then fuck me it is taking the piss.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2014 18:57:06 GMT 1
10 grand for a few kits was taking the piss. Deano's not a bottomless pit. Not surprised we bailed and wish them good luck. Where you get that figure? If its true then fuck me it is taking the piss. 3pipe is wrong. They said it would cost them up to 10 grand to replace all of their kits and training wear for 80+ people after Town said they couldn't use the or have colours similar to HTFC. I still don;t understand how you can bar someone from wearing blue and white! All they asked was for, as a club with an official link, some financial help in kitting out the girls in line with what the boys in the academyget. Nowhere did they state publicly how much they asked for. The figure is right, having been involved in kitting out 100+ kids just with a shirt it came upwards of 2k. They have to replace entire kits so it wouldn't surprise me to replace home/away kit and training gear of 80+ girls it was 7k-ish.
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Post by benhtafc on Sept 10, 2014 19:06:35 GMT 1
If someone asks Deano about this he will likely be honest enough to say that they wanted more money and there was no benefit to the club to give it to them. It is a business after all and the womens team is a money pit that will never be profitable and needs the mens club to finance it indeffinately.
I am sure that the club was willing to support the ladies to an extent in the name of good will, club reputation and giving something back but there has to be a limit to that generosity and they obviously passed that limit.
It is hardly like the board to go severing ties without a reason so it has to be money or some sort of fall out.
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Post by 3Pipe on Sept 10, 2014 19:11:11 GMT 1
3pipe is wrong. They said it would cost them up to 10 grand to replace all of their kits and training wear Rule #1 of DATM, I'm never wrong. Someone posted a link to a website that would provide enough kit for a small fraction of the 10 grand quoted. The link to the 10 grand figure has now been removed, presumably because they weren't too keen on folk knowing they were taking the piss.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2014 19:15:23 GMT 1
If someone asks Deano about this he will likely be honest enough to say that they wanted more money and there was no benefit to the club to give it to them. It is a business after all and the womens team is a money pit that will never be profitable and needs the mens club to finance it indeffinately. I am sure that the club was willing to support the ladies to an extent in the name of good will, club reputation and giving something back but there has to be a limit to that generosity and they obviously passed that limit. It is hardly like the board to go severing ties without a reason so it has to be money or some sort of fall out. The men's team too is a money pit that isn't profitable. In fact I suspect the women's team break even unlike the mens. It probably is down to money, which is a crying shame. I tihnk the major issue is that HTLFC who had an official link with the club felt hard done by when they see academy kids getting free kit when they get little or no help. However, a "community club" that isn't willing to promote women's football which is forever expanding (as is womens sport) is a huge mistake in my book. Football just isn't for men, it's the people's game.
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Post by 3Pipe on Sept 10, 2014 19:15:59 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2014 19:27:27 GMT 1
3pipe is wrong. They said it would cost them up to 10 grand to replace all of their kits and training wear Rule #1 of DATM, I'm never wrong. Someone posted a link to a website that would provide enough kit for a small fraction of the 10 grand quoted. The link to the 10 grand figure has now been removed, presumably because they weren't too keen on folk knowing they were taking the piss. 'Enough' kit being the word there... Again if you replace two kits and training wear for 80-100 people you are looking at up to 10 grand and I am speaking from experience. This season it cost around 4/5 grand for 120ish shirts and hoodies at my club and we shopped around looking for quality as well as price. The link was also not been removed, so you are in fact wrong. www.htlfc.org.uk/club/News/view/854126
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Post by 3Pipe on Sept 10, 2014 19:33:24 GMT 1
1. I posted the same link above 10 minutes before you.
2. The first link I looked for had been deleted.
3. 10 grand for kit is taking the piss
4. I'm not wrong.
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Post by bro600 on Sept 10, 2014 20:24:34 GMT 1
Personally if i were chairman i would have a problem with the fact they intend moving back to "their home ground" which is being funded by Graham Leslie and is a massive project on it's own and asking for my support as well. The project at Storthes Hall is very good for Shelley and the surrounding area and will probably make a good sports venue for a successful football team. I would suggest they ask their previous sponsors or local businesses to share in their success by contributing and not be knocking on my door as chairman of HTFC.
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Post by deo1 on Sept 10, 2014 21:01:14 GMT 1
Petty decision by the club imo. Town ladies have represented the club and area for years and are doing well now. Petty squabbling by both parties has resulted in town removing the rights for them to wear blue and white stripes, use of the badge and the name which in reality is a bit of a joke and shows the club in a poor light. It will cost a fortune for them to rekit all of their teams and rebrand. They've had to upgrade their ground too which isn't cheap so that they can play in the league they are now in. I've read somewhere else that they also got offered to play their games at Canalside and accepted that offer but got it revoked just before the season started and had to find a new pitch pretty quickly to fulfill their fixtures which is pretty shoddy on towns part.
It wouldn't surprise me if town start their own ladies team up in the end. They tried bullying the Ropewalk a year or so back (probably to benefit the new town venture Canalside) as they decided to sell Giants draw tickets instead of the town ones. They wanted town fans to boycott the pub as it didn't financially support town (but had done previously) and didn't think it was right that a pub so close to the stadium should make any money out of match days without putting something into the coffers.
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Post by bro600 on Sept 11, 2014 7:35:35 GMT 1
Your 2nd paragraph is a load of Bollocks Joe. Do you think DATM a year or so back would not have picked up on something like that? A couple of supporters suggesting a boycott does not translate to HTFC bullying The Ropewalk into selling raffle tickets..
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2014 9:28:14 GMT 1
Your 2nd paragraph is a load of Bollocks Joe. Do you think DATM a year or so back would not have picked up on something like that? A couple of supporters suggesting a boycott does not translate to HTFC bullying The Ropewalk into selling raffle tickets.. If I recall correctly, Sean Jarvis posted some tweets at the time that with hindsight he probably shouldn't have.
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Post by bro600 on Sept 11, 2014 9:34:52 GMT 1
Not really a club initiative though was it? HTSA found out through a supporter and wrote to The Ropewalk who replied with their explanation of supporting another sports club and having a limited budget. 6 months down the line HTSA were promoting a breakfast sandwich and a pint in The Ropewalk before away games ..So it was hardly a big issue...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2014 9:40:40 GMT 1
Not really a club initiative though was it? HTSA found out through a supporter and wrote to The Ropewalk who replied with their explanation of supporting another sports club and having a limited budget. 6 months down the line HTSA were promoting a breakfast sandwich and a pint in The Ropewalk before away games ..So it was hardly a big issue... No i disagree, I think its exactly the same as the ladies thing, but in reverse. The Ropewalk used to support HTFC commercially, they decided not to (as is their right), and as far as I'm aware, Sean got the message out and intimated certain things that painted the Ropewalk negatively. Like the ladies, it is something and nothing, and will be forgotten about in a few months.
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Post by bro600 on Sept 11, 2014 9:49:48 GMT 1
Not really a club initiative though was it? HTSA found out through a supporter and wrote to The Ropewalk who replied with their explanation of supporting another sports club and having a limited budget. 6 months down the line HTSA were promoting a breakfast sandwich and a pint in The Ropewalk before away games ..So it was hardly a big issue... No i disagree, I think its exactly the same as the ladies thing, but in reverse. The Ropewalk used to support HTFC commercially, they decided not to (as is their right), and as far as I'm aware, Sean got the message out and intimated certain things that painted the Ropewalk negatively. Like the ladies, it is something and nothing, and will be forgotten about in a few months. What are you disagreeing with? Not really a club initiative though was it? So it was hardly a big issue?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2014 10:08:38 GMT 1
Whatever has gone on and whoever may be 'to blame' the fact remains that 50% of all children cannot now dream about playing for HTFC. For a 'family club' trying to assert itself in the heart of the community that is a real shame and a very regressive move. We don't have Boys Clubs anymore, the whole of society is moving towards inclusionism yet the board have bucked the trend. It's a PR war the club cannot win. Rightly so as it is also very wrong.
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