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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2014 10:09:34 GMT 1
I'm of the opinion it was a HTSA suggestion, prompted by discussion with Sean, who if I recall, had been pretty scathing of the Ropewalk due to their decision at the time to halt commercial support of Town.
But its history and it doesn't matter (and neither does the ladies thing, Town have withdrawn their official support, thats the end of it...unless HTSA suggest some supporters of Town may elect to support other clubs because of HTFCs handling of this matter?!).
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2014 10:16:27 GMT 1
Petty decision by the club imo. Town ladies have represented the club and area for years and are doing well now. Petty squabbling by both parties has resulted in town removing the rights for them to wear blue and white stripes, use of the badge and the name which in reality is a bit of a joke and shows the club in a poor light. It will cost a fortune for them to rekit all of their teams and rebrand. They've had to upgrade their ground too which isn't cheap so that they can play in the league they are now in. I've read somewhere else that they also got offered to play their games at Canalside and accepted that offer but got it revoked just before the season started and had to find a new pitch pretty quickly to fulfill their fixtures which is pretty shoddy on towns part. . Don't think that that is true? Wasn't this the summer whereby Canalside was being built, and due to excessive rain over the summer, most of the pitch seeding and laying was delayed until around September/October. They, like the academy were affected by the delays caused by the weather. But they found somewhere else to play. I don't think comparing them to the academy is a fair comparison - the academy generates players for the first team - the womens team does not. The academy isn't part of the community, it is part of the club. It's more akin to HTFC being asked to fund clubs like Clifton and Brighouse Juniors than the academy. Personally I'd like the women's team playing at Canalside on Saturday mornings/early afternoon so that the community could go support them prior to a Town game at home. It's a real shame that it's all fallen apart, but I don't trust a lot of what is coming from HTLFC, some of their stories seem to contradict.
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Post by huddersviking on Sept 11, 2014 10:25:27 GMT 1
Petty decision by the club imo. Town ladies have represented the club and area for years and are doing well now. Petty squabbling by both parties has resulted in town removing the rights for them to wear blue and white stripes, use of the badge and the name which in reality is a bit of a joke and shows the club in a poor light. It will cost a fortune for them to rekit all of their teams and rebrand. They've had to upgrade their ground too which isn't cheap so that they can play in the league they are now in. I've read somewhere else that they also got offered to play their games at Canalside and accepted that offer but got it revoked just before the season started and had to find a new pitch pretty quickly to fulfill their fixtures which is pretty shoddy on towns part. . Don't think that that is true? Wasn't this the summer whereby Canalside was being built, and due to excessive rain over the summer, most of the pitch seeding and laying was delayed until around September/October. They, like the academy were affected by the delays caused by the weather. But they found somewhere else to play. I don't think comparing them to the academy is a fair comparison - the academy generates players for the first team - the womens team does not. The academy isn't part of the community, it is part of the club. It's more akin to HTFC being asked to fund clubs like Clifton and Brighouse Juniors than the academy. Personally I'd like the women's team playing at Canalside on Saturday mornings/early afternoon so that the community could go support them prior to a Town game at home. It's a real shame that it's all fallen apart, but I don't trust a lot of what is coming from HTLFC, some of their stories seem to contradict. The WNPL has to be played on a sunday at 2pm A lot has gone on between the two clubs. I personally fully back the board and there decision to break the link the women's team. The women's team brings nothing to the club, the club have offered the women the chance to play games at canelside which was rejected.
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Post by 3Pipe on Sept 11, 2014 10:27:22 GMT 1
Not to mention 10 grand to kit out a women's football team is taking the absolute piss.
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Post by huddersviking on Sept 11, 2014 10:35:54 GMT 1
Not to mention 10 grand to kit out a women's football team is taking the absolute piss. This is something i'm really struggling to get my head round, Surely they must already pay for there own kit anyways (as they play in a nike kit).
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2014 11:17:57 GMT 1
Don't think that that is true? Wasn't this the summer whereby Canalside was being built, and due to excessive rain over the summer, most of the pitch seeding and laying was delayed until around September/October. They, like the academy were affected by the delays caused by the weather. But they found somewhere else to play. I don't think comparing them to the academy is a fair comparison - the academy generates players for the first team - the womens team does not. The academy isn't part of the community, it is part of the club. It's more akin to HTFC being asked to fund clubs like Clifton and Brighouse Juniors than the academy. Personally I'd like the women's team playing at Canalside on Saturday mornings/early afternoon so that the community could go support them prior to a Town game at home. It's a real shame that it's all fallen apart, but I don't trust a lot of what is coming from HTLFC, some of their stories seem to contradict. The WNPL has to be played on a sunday at 2pm A lot has gone on between the two clubs. I personally fully back the board and there decision to break the link the women's team. The women's team brings nothing to the club, the club have offered the women the chance to play games at canelside which was rejected. Shame about the Sunday kick offs. It would have been quite good to have them play at 12 on a Saturday, alternating maybe with the academy. Might increase footfall at Canalside etc...
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Post by huddersviking on Sept 11, 2014 12:09:09 GMT 1
The WNPL has to be played on a sunday at 2pm A lot has gone on between the two clubs. I personally fully back the board and there decision to break the link the women's team. The women's team brings nothing to the club, the club have offered the women the chance to play games at canelside which was rejected. Shame about the Sunday kick offs. It would have been quite good to have them play at 12 on a Saturday, alternating maybe with the academy. Might increase footfall at Canalside etc... Also Hudders women have rejected the offer to play home games at canelside already. So apart from the fact that they don't want to play there, and they cant play there on a Saturday it was a good idea.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2014 12:58:28 GMT 1
Not to mention 10 grand to kit out a women's football team is taking the absolute piss. This is something i'm really struggling to get my head round, Surely they must already pay for there own kit anyways (as they play in a nike kit). 3pipes a broken record... "It's not 10k for the kit" it's up to 10k to kit out up to 100 girls. Home and away kit, training gear etc as they can no longer use the logo and apparently cannot wear blue and white (pathetic if true) I bet to replace the aforementioned gear is easily £5k+
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2014 13:03:58 GMT 1
Petty decision by the club imo. Town ladies have represented the club and area for years and are doing well now. Petty squabbling by both parties has resulted in town removing the rights for them to wear blue and white stripes, use of the badge and the name which in reality is a bit of a joke and shows the club in a poor light. It will cost a fortune for them to rekit all of their teams and rebrand. They've had to upgrade their ground too which isn't cheap so that they can play in the league they are now in. I've read somewhere else that they also got offered to play their games at Canalside and accepted that offer but got it revoked just before the season started and had to find a new pitch pretty quickly to fulfill their fixtures which is pretty shoddy on towns part. . Don't think that that is true? Wasn't this the summer whereby Canalside was being built, and due to excessive rain over the summer, most of the pitch seeding and laying was delayed until around September/October. They, like the academy were affected by the delays caused by the weather. But they found somewhere else to play. I don't think comparing them to the academy is a fair comparison - the academy generates players for the first team - the womens team does not. The academy isn't part of the community, it is part of the club. It's more akin to HTFC being asked to fund clubs like Clifton and Brighouse Juniors than the academy. Personally I'd like the women's team playing at Canalside on Saturday mornings/early afternoon so that the community could go support them prior to a Town game at home. It's a real shame that it's all fallen apart, but I don't trust a lot of what is coming from HTLFC, some of their stories seem to contradict. Sadly too many people will think along this line. However, I look at clubs like Birmingham Ladies who are involved with the club as a whole and think the board are letting down a lot of folk. Until the club explain why they chose to do what they've done then it will all be tedious assumptions. Either way it looks to be a massive PR blunder
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2014 13:26:37 GMT 1
Don't think that that is true? Wasn't this the summer whereby Canalside was being built, and due to excessive rain over the summer, most of the pitch seeding and laying was delayed until around September/October. They, like the academy were affected by the delays caused by the weather. But they found somewhere else to play. I don't think comparing them to the academy is a fair comparison - the academy generates players for the first team - the womens team does not. The academy isn't part of the community, it is part of the club. It's more akin to HTFC being asked to fund clubs like Clifton and Brighouse Juniors than the academy. Personally I'd like the women's team playing at Canalside on Saturday mornings/early afternoon so that the community could go support them prior to a Town game at home. It's a real shame that it's all fallen apart, but I don't trust a lot of what is coming from HTLFC, some of their stories seem to contradict. Sadly too many people will think along this line. However, I look at clubs like Birmingham Ladies who are involved with the club as a whole and think the board are letting down a lot of folk. Until the club explain why they chose to do what they've done then it will all be tedious assumptions. Either way it looks to be a massive PR blunder I know where you are going with this, but surely to do that they would need to be equal partners and not be one club potentially propping up another. Bearing in mind that the main club struggles to compete on a financial level in their current division. It would be nice to have the women's team central to community and schools projects - but what is the financial viability to that? If it's to the detriment of what we see at 3pm on a Saturday, then you'll struggle to get 10% of Town fans agreeing that it's a good idea.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2014 13:32:41 GMT 1
If the ladies' involvement leads to an increased interest from women in football...it would take Town to sell 17 extra tickets a match over the season at £25 to recover the £10k. Chuck in pies and drinks etch and it's a (in context) very small amount.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2014 13:48:45 GMT 1
Sadly too many people will think along this line. However, I look at clubs like Birmingham Ladies who are involved with the club as a whole and think the board are letting down a lot of folk. Until the club explain why they chose to do what they've done then it will all be tedious assumptions. Either way it looks to be a massive PR blunder I know where you are going with this, but surely to do that they would need to be equal partners and not be one club potentially propping up another. Bearing in mind that the main club struggles to compete on a financial level in their current division. It would be nice to have the women's team central to community and schools projects - but what is the financial viability to that? If it's to the detriment of what we see at 3pm on a Saturday, then you'll struggle to get 10% of Town fans agreeing that it's a good idea. It is financially viable. Afterall HTLFC are an amateur club who pay to play and most of the girls who represent them are Town fans. Surely helping with the kit each season isn't too much. HTFC itself is a community made up of people who support the club, more should be done investing in football for all genders rath than just the academy and some breakfasts for kids. Again until Town answer why they chose to cut the link it will rumble on but it looks to be poor communication and I get the feeling the fact HTLFC are playing at Storthes Hall has something to do with it - Shelley FC I believe have some partnership with Man City.
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Post by 3Pipe on Sept 11, 2014 14:32:10 GMT 1
This is something i'm really struggling to get my head round, Surely they must already pay for there own kit anyways (as they play in a nike kit). 3pipes a broken record... "It's not 10k for the kit" it's up to 10k to kit out up to 100 girls. Home and away kit, training gear etc as they can no longer use the logo and apparently cannot wear blue and white (pathetic if true) I bet to replace the aforementioned gear is easily £5k+ It's amateur football FFS. Training gear? You provide your own training gear which involves a TShirt and tracky bottoms if you're training on astroturf. Do 100 girls require home and away kits? How many sides are they putting out for Pete's sake? And it's 10K as far as I'm concerned. When does someone ever ask for 'up to' a certain figure and come back saying 'actually we only needed half that, here's half back'. No offence mate, but I'm glad Deano and the club aren't as gullible as you are.
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Post by bro600 on Sept 11, 2014 15:20:51 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2014 15:48:10 GMT 1
3pipes a broken record... "It's not 10k for the kit" it's up to 10k to kit out up to 100 girls. Home and away kit, training gear etc as they can no longer use the logo and apparently cannot wear blue and white (pathetic if true) I bet to replace the aforementioned gear is easily £5k+ It's amateur football FFS. Training gear? You provide your own training gear which involves a TShirt and tracky bottoms if you're training on astroturf. Do 100 girls require home and away kits? How many sides are they putting out for Pete's sake? And it's 10K as far as I'm concerned. When does someone ever ask for 'up to' a certain figure and come back saying 'actually we only needed half that, here's half back'. No offence mate, but I'm glad Deano and the club aren't as gullible as you are. Care to explain how I am gullable?! Or is the fact I have experience in dealing with buying kit and actually knowing the cost of doing so is going in one ear and out t'other with you. Oh and they are in the highest division of womens winter football. They may be amateur but want to look the part and represent Huddersfield. Also for the final time they said because they can no longer use the and colours to replace all their current kit and training gear it would cost upto 10k, not the figure for help they actually asked for. Please get that through you thick skull. I believe there is more to it than a tiff over kits but the club won't say why.
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Post by bro600 on Sept 11, 2014 16:03:05 GMT 1
The ladies team chairman David Mallin released e-mails between the clubs to try and prove some right or wrong on one of the parties sides.. He also made a big issue of the fact that Sean Jarvis had changed the loose affiliation to an official affiliation way back in 2010. Does his part in this interview sound like a chairman who's club as an official affiliation with HTFC? audioboo.fm/boos/2361734-huddersfield-town-ladies-prepare-for-fa-premier-league
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2014 16:09:27 GMT 1
What you expect 'we paddle our own canoe but are forever indebted to HTFC for the 15 free tickets we get'?
The whole thing is a mess. No one wins and no one looks good. Unfortunately, it appears ego is preventing a resolution and the girls are the ones who will suffer.
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Post by bro600 on Sept 11, 2014 16:26:40 GMT 1
If that's the line he wants to take and he feels going through the Examiner is the best way to appeal to Dean's generous nature then i'd say he needs to cling onto his paddle otherwise he'll come floating past the Stadium one day with his head up his arse.
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Post by dewsburyterrier on Sept 14, 2014 20:54:13 GMT 1
Forest 4 Town 5 p4 w4 in league
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Post by davethesprout on Sept 14, 2014 21:03:12 GMT 1
Whatever has gone on and whoever may be 'to blame' the fact remains that 50% of all children cannot now dream about playing for HTFC. For a 'family club' trying to assert itself in the heart of the community that is a real shame and a very regressive move. We don't have Boys Clubs anymore, the whole of society is moving towards inclusionism yet the board have bucked the trend. It's a PR war the club cannot win. Rightly so as it is also very wrong. bloke in the pub feels so angry he is stopping going!! lots of bad vibes about towns board at the moment!
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Sept 14, 2014 21:05:26 GMT 1
I once played against Town ladies...we won 2-1 but i got megged! Mark Lillis played for the girls. Wish the club could fix this and ally themselves to the ladies team.
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Post by Michael Moon on Sept 14, 2014 21:55:01 GMT 1
ffs grow some balls you lot n tell your womenfolk to get behind the kitchen sink!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2014 21:55:37 GMT 1
I once played against Town ladies...we won 2-1 but i got megged! Mark Lillis played for the girls. Wish the club could fix this and ally themselves to the ladies team. I played a bit of 5 a side against one of the current Town ladies a couple of years back (end of term knock around at kids tennis club where shes a coach). I got smashed off the field, technically and physically, along with the bruised ego I also picked up!
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Post by dewsburyterrier on Sept 21, 2014 18:21:02 GMT 1
Newcastle 0 Town 3 P5 W5 in league
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2014 18:34:41 GMT 1
Newcastle 0 Town 3 P5 W5 in league cant we put them in against Millwall, instead of the ladyboys who played saturday
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Post by 3Pipe on Sept 21, 2014 18:40:55 GMT 1
Kinell imagine how much they'd win by if some mug gave them 10 grand to spend on kit.
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Post by @HTAFCpodcast on Sept 21, 2014 18:42:26 GMT 1
Don't want to go over any old ground but...
Such a shame about the situation between the club and ladies. Can't help but think both sides just need to swallow their pride and work something out.
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