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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Aug 24, 2014 16:35:59 GMT 1
You remember those days when Lee Clark had absolutely feck all idea how to play against 10 men. Well it seems he is still non the wiser (pinched from another site) RIGHT WE ARE 1-0 AGAINST TEN MEN, THINK I'LL TAKE MY TWO STRIKERS OFF, LETS SEE WHAT HAPPENSI like him and still do tbf, yes he was clueless at times but enjoyed his 3 years.
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Post by kautostar1 on Aug 24, 2014 16:59:00 GMT 1
I'd take him back in a flash. And over and above some of the names linked with the post. Give me the passion, and even the stubbornness, arrogance he sometimes showed over the wet lettuce approach. Damn fucking right
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2014 17:15:25 GMT 1
And the mostly crap football, generally poor signings and failure to get out of league one. Get him back.
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Post by teddytheterrier on Aug 25, 2014 12:46:56 GMT 1
Better than Grayson
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2014 13:26:39 GMT 1
Grayson who made mostly good signings and has managed to get 3 teams out of league 1 and has improved Preston more than Clark did with Town with a smaller budget?
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Post by CaptainHart on Aug 25, 2014 13:58:46 GMT 1
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Aug 25, 2014 14:50:38 GMT 1
One of best ever town managers, he got the recorded unbeaten league run........you don't get that if your average.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2014 14:59:44 GMT 1
Great achievement was that 43 game run, and I'm not saying that with any sarcasm, but his job was to get us promoted. He had the time and money that managers can only dream of and he failed, simple as that.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2014 15:09:45 GMT 1
Three pages?!!! 'Let it go, Louis... let it go!'
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Aug 25, 2014 15:19:20 GMT 1
Steve Black
Terry Mac card schools
The chimp paradox
All big influences.
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Post by Captainslapper on Aug 25, 2014 15:28:50 GMT 1
Should have been sacked a year before he was. Didn't hit his minimum target here so goes down as a failure. Both managers we've had since were better.
A guy known as sticks sits near me. hes as passionate as they come. Doesn't mean id want him to have the job. Managerial ability is a tad more important and don't think Clark has that much.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Aug 25, 2014 15:33:16 GMT 1
Should have been sacked a year before he was. Didn't hit his minimum target here so goes down as a failure. Both managers we've had since were better. A guy known as sticks sits near me. hes as passionate as they come. Doesn't mean id want him to have the job. Managerial ability is a tad more important and don't think Clark has that much. Blood hell not sticks who nearly has a coronary at every decision and whistles all the time ?
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Post by teddytheterrier on Sept 21, 2014 10:20:43 GMT 1
Could he do a job for us if we go down?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2014 10:23:53 GMT 1
As he couldn't get us promoted with the time and resources he had, plus the fact that people won't attend if he ever came back, I seriously doubt he would come back. To answer your question, no he couldn't do a job for us. He can't do a job for Birmingham and be couldn't do a job for us. He was rightly sacked. Move on.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Sept 21, 2014 10:47:10 GMT 1
It seemed more entertaining and we had more passion with him though. If CP is starting from the back he's got big problems with those fullbacks and soft Lynch.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2014 17:19:24 GMT 1
I'd sooner have Mick Wadsworth back than Lee Clark !!!! Wash your mouth out walkden.........clark at times was bad, as was grayson and more so robins. But bloody hell any comparison with that clueless twat mick the dick is wholly uncalled for! haha mick the dick..you free for a drink mate i enjoyed that
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Post by teddytheterrier on Oct 27, 2014 19:59:57 GMT 1
Set to be named next Blackpool manager in next 48 hours! Odds on at bookies! Good luck to him!
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Post by kennyk2 on Oct 27, 2014 20:04:02 GMT 1
Good luck to him, but it does make you wonder.
You see it all the time, people getting rewarded for failure.
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Post by Amigo on Oct 27, 2014 20:17:40 GMT 1
Don't do it Lee. Is he purposefully picking jobs with a ready made excuse now? They'll go down and unless something changes behind the scenes he'll have no money to spend next season to get them back up, added to the fact the fans seem to really like the manager that's just gone and it seems like a terrible idea for someone like Clark who looks like he should be in a straightjacket when his side are doing well never mind getting beat every week.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2014 20:57:40 GMT 1
Get's out of the frying pan, jumps straight into the fire. Poor Lee..
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Post by townfan on Oct 27, 2014 21:10:03 GMT 1
My mates a Brum fan - says nothing to do with Lee Clarke, no one could win in that situation, he was glad he'd gone before the game or he'd have been blamed for that when it is the club that is badly run 'Yes I was there, it was shocking, the only good thing was that Lee Clarke had gone before this game. No matter who they appoint & it looks like being Gary Rowett, things won.t change until we have new owners, preferably someone who is not in jail !! Apparently there are a number of consortiums trying to do a deal, but they can't find anyone to talk too, what a bloody mess. Never mind we have got the Yam Yams to play next on TV, it might be X rated. PS It was never a sending off & there second goal was 3 yards off side we may have kept it down to 6.' Typical Brummie gallows humour in the ps
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Post by Mr Breitside on Oct 27, 2014 21:22:33 GMT 1
Ha ha.. Nothing to do with Lee Clark? Did they not see the squad he took over or the rank bad signings he made ?? Ambrose, Mullins, Lovenkrands.. They did have some money when he took over he just thought he would spend it on has beens ! I have no issue with Clark but there is no way he can not take some responsibility for the situation Birmingham find themselves in.
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Post by Amigo on Oct 27, 2014 22:12:48 GMT 1
He brought 69 players to Birmingham in less than 2 and a half seasons, how many of them were actually any good?
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Post by impact on Oct 27, 2014 22:24:16 GMT 1
He brought 69 players to Birmingham in less than 2 and a half seasons, how many of them were actually any good? How many were loanees and how many were called back with a moments notice? He had to scrape around for players, mostly a case of beggers can't be choosers. Their fans seem to acknowledge that Brum's problems lie much deeper than the manager. I think Saturday's result adds to that.
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Post by Amigo on Oct 27, 2014 23:33:44 GMT 1
He brought 69 players to Birmingham in less than 2 and a half seasons, how many of them were actually any good? How many were loanees and how many were called back with a moments notice? He had to scrape around for players, mostly a case of beggers can't be choosers. Their fans seem to acknowledge that Brum's problems lie much deeper than the manager. I think Saturday's result adds to that. 24 were loans, 45 were signings. I'm not saying it was easy for him but I honestly don't think he helped himself. He took over a team that had just finished 4th in the league, they lost Foster and Mutch and he brought in Lovenkrands, Ambrose, Mullins, Ravel Morrison, Caddis, Robinson, Lita, Lucas, Gordan and Diop. Ferguson also came in on loan from Newcastle half way through. Straight away he's needlessly brought in an entirely new team when they've just finished in the play offs (sound familiar??) and lost just 2 players. From being a top team in the league they're down to being mid-table all because they lost Foster and Mutch? I don't think they can be the sole reasons. Then last season they stay up by seconds. Players get called back from loans it happens all the time there's no way that can be used as an excuse. Bartley, Lingard, Morrison, Burn and Ferguson played over 100 games between them on loan for him he was hardly badly done to in that respect. As for scraping around it just seems that it was the same old story and he went for quantity over quality, he just seems to love signing players. Everytime there seems to be a problem within his side his answer is to bring someone in and not try and work with what he has or try to improve a player or teach them to do something different. Even ignoring loans he was only there 2 and a half years so is at nearly 20 players a season, it's as if he gets given a budget and thinks "how many players can I get out of that?" instead of just picking out certain areas in a team which need improving.
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Post by impact on Oct 28, 2014 0:52:52 GMT 1
How many were loanees and how many were called back with a moments notice? He had to scrape around for players, mostly a case of beggers can't be choosers. Their fans seem to acknowledge that Brum's problems lie much deeper than the manager. I think Saturday's result adds to that. 24 were loans, 45 were signings. I'm not saying it was easy for him but I honestly don't think he helped himself. He took over a team that had just finished 4th in the league, they lost Foster and Mutch and he brought in Lovenkrands, Ambrose, Mullins, Ravel Morrison, Caddis, Robinson, Lita, Lucas, Gordan and Diop. Ferguson also came in on loan from Newcastle half way through. Straight away he's needlessly brought in an entirely new team when they've just finished in the play offs (sound familiar??) and lost just 2 players. From being a top team in the league they're down to being mid-table all because they lost Foster and Mutch? I don't think they can be the sole reasons. Then last season they stay up by seconds. Players get called back from loans it happens all the time there's no way that can be used as an excuse. Bartley, Lingard, Morrison, Burn and Ferguson played over 100 games between them on loan for him he was hardly badly done to in that respect. As for scraping around it just seems that it was the same old story and he went for quantity over quality, he just seems to love signing players. Everytime there seems to be a problem within his side his answer is to bring someone in and not try and work with what he has or try to improve a player or teach them to do something different. Even ignoring loans he was only there 2 and a half years so is at nearly 20 players a season, it's as if he gets given a budget and thinks "how many players can I get out of that?" instead of just picking out certain areas in a team which need improving. I don't buy the general argument that just because a team has a good season does not mean they don't need changes. Look at Man U as a prime example. However you clearly know more about Birmingham than I do looking at that, although you've massively overstated the signings - a quick check on wiki shows that it was half that number, and only 3 of those were for any money at all. I had a wander about on the Brum forum on Saturday and comments on there were talking about the unnecessary abuse from supporters at players they had to take from league 2 clubs on frees. Obviously this could have been a small subset of supporters but the reaction was anger towards the board rather than the previous manager. As for the loaness, if I remember right they were doing well then had 3 recalled out of the blue and had to replace them. Not matter what team you have that is a big blow. Add to that a fair few of those staying supposedly not caring. Of course he could have done better but he wasn't dealt a decent hand in the first place.
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Post by Amigo on Oct 28, 2014 9:51:35 GMT 1
24 were loans, 45 were signings. I'm not saying it was easy for him but I honestly don't think he helped himself. He took over a team that had just finished 4th in the league, they lost Foster and Mutch and he brought in Lovenkrands, Ambrose, Mullins, Ravel Morrison, Caddis, Robinson, Lita, Lucas, Gordan and Diop. Ferguson also came in on loan from Newcastle half way through. Straight away he's needlessly brought in an entirely new team when they've just finished in the play offs (sound familiar??) and lost just 2 players. From being a top team in the league they're down to being mid-table all because they lost Foster and Mutch? I don't think they can be the sole reasons. Then last season they stay up by seconds. Players get called back from loans it happens all the time there's no way that can be used as an excuse. Bartley, Lingard, Morrison, Burn and Ferguson played over 100 games between them on loan for him he was hardly badly done to in that respect. As for scraping around it just seems that it was the same old story and he went for quantity over quality, he just seems to love signing players. Everytime there seems to be a problem within his side his answer is to bring someone in and not try and work with what he has or try to improve a player or teach them to do something different. Even ignoring loans he was only there 2 and a half years so is at nearly 20 players a season, it's as if he gets given a budget and thinks "how many players can I get out of that?" instead of just picking out certain areas in a team which need improving. I don't buy the general argument that just because a team has a good season does not mean they don't need changes. Look at Man U as a prime example. However you clearly know more about Birmingham than I do looking at that, although you've massively overstated the signings - a quick check on wiki shows that it was half that number, and only 3 of those were for any money at all. I had a wander about on the Brum forum on Saturday and comments on there were talking about the unnecessary abuse from supporters at players they had to take from league 2 clubs on frees. Obviously this could have been a small subset of supporters but the reaction was anger towards the board rather than the previous manager. As for the loaness, if I remember right they were doing well then had 3 recalled out of the blue and had to replace them. Not matter what team you have that is a big blow. Add to that a fair few of those staying supposedly not caring. Of course he could have done better but he wasn't dealt a decent hand in the first place. Only 3 loans were recalled in his whole time there and one of them (Thorpe in March) went back 3 weeks later. Dan Burn got recalled at the start of the January transfer window 2014 and Bartley towards the end of it, they will have been blows (they'd lost 4 in 5 before Bartley went back mind) but like I said that's the risk with loan players, if they do well for you there's always the chance the club that pays most of their wages will want them back. He had a good squad when he arrived there but threw money away on players they didn't really need. There fans are probably similar to ours, you get a hell of a lot that love him because he's passionate and looks like he cares and will therefore stick up for him but ultimately he's failed at both clubs and doesn't look like he's learned anything from his time here.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2014 10:35:37 GMT 1
Would be a good move for Clark imo.
What has he got to lose? Everyone knows what Blackpool are up against. If they don't earn another point, people will know it wasn't Clarks fault. Keep them up and he'll be in demand.
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Post by teddytheterrier on Oct 28, 2014 11:17:00 GMT 1
I can see Clark making Clarke captain! Perhaps even try and get Novak on loan! Wonder if he ll say they are the biggest club he's managed too! Wouldn't wish bad on Clarky but Blackpool are a league one side and football club for me, one season in the big time has made a lot of people blind to that fact!
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Post by bluedogs, Esq. on Oct 28, 2014 11:28:37 GMT 1
I can see Clark making Clarke captain! Perhaps even try and get Novak on loan! Wonder if he ll say they are the biggest club he's managed too! Wouldn't wish bad on Clarky but Blackpool are a league one side and football club for me, one season in the big time has made a lot of people blind to that fact!
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