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Post by Amigo on Aug 15, 2014 21:45:25 GMT 1
In order I'd like Lennon - Hughton - Powell.
The first 2 I thought came across very well on Goals on Sunday last week. Lennon although he hasn't managed in England obviously played here for a long time and it sounded to me like he's been gearing himself up for a Championship job. He has the sort of passion I'd like from our next manager and I think he could create the right atmosphere in the squad to get the best out of them. He's also shown good tactical knowledge with some of Celtic's results in europe. Hughton has had success in the Championship already, he seems like a good man and must have something in him that has created such a brilliant home record at this level. As for Powell I hadn't really thought about him to be honest but I wouldn't be disappointed with him, my only slight concern is not him being a London boy but being a Charlton boy and whether he could transfer the passion he would've had for them to another club. I do think we have better players now than he had at Charlton so I think he'd do a good job here.
Not too keen on any of the other "candidates" for various reasons.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Aug 15, 2014 21:46:11 GMT 1
That's a big bag of nails you've got there Nick
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Aug 15, 2014 21:58:31 GMT 1
That's a big bag of nails you've got there Nick I don't know who it is, but one of em is.......... Nailed on.
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Aug 15, 2014 22:06:00 GMT 1
I don't think ours would be the right club for Powell. He's a real London boy thru & thru. We need a northerner I reckon. Someone with true northern grit. Lennon would be the man for me who could unite the club and bring plenty of good attention to the club. Tony Mowbray is certainly a gritty northerner! Would he do?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2014 22:24:35 GMT 1
I don't think ours would be the right club for Powell. He's a real London boy thru & thru. We need a northerner I reckon. Someone with true northern grit. Lennon would be the man for me who could unite the club and bring plenty of good attention to the club. Tony Mowbray is certainly a gritty northerner! Would he do? He is but he's a soft spoken chap and I'm not sure he has the confidence/belief after a difficult few years at boro. I rated him highly at west Brom but seems to have lost his way. He's a another in the 'nice guy' category. I think we need a stronger character this time. We'll see. I have faith Dean will get the right man.
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Post by Tinpot on Aug 15, 2014 22:27:14 GMT 1
I don't think ours would be the right club for Powell. He's a real London boy thru & thru. We need a northerner I reckon. Someone with true northern grit. Lennon would be the man for me who could unite the club and bring plenty of good attention to the club. He was at Derby for a couple of years, and Leicester for a while too iirc.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2014 22:48:48 GMT 1
I don't think ours would be the right club for Powell. He's a real London boy thru & thru. We need a northerner I reckon. Someone with true northern grit. Lennon would be the man for me who could unite the club and bring plenty of good attention to the club. He was at Derby for a couple of years, and Leicester for a while too iirc. Yeah as a player. I'm not wholly convinced by him as a manager outside of his club charlton. Would be a big risk imo. Lennon would be my choice if he'd be ok with our budget constraints.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2014 0:53:43 GMT 1
Powell would be a decent choice imo. I really can't see us getting Lennon or Hughton, althought I would take Hugthon over him, not too sure about Lennon though. The Scottish premiership is a bit different to the championship and Rangers being absent for the last few years has to have made it much easier to perform up there.
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Aug 16, 2014 7:33:14 GMT 1
Russell Slade anyone?
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Post by thomo on Aug 16, 2014 7:44:10 GMT 1
I recall Slade speaking highly of us on a few occasions in post match interviews. A few years ago I'd say no chance of him being good enough for us, but I reckon he's hugely improved as a manager in recent years and deserves a shot at a bigger club. That said, I doubt he'd come as orient now have decent financial backing and can see them leapfrogging us in the next 12 months. Think he was in charge of Brighton when we smashed them 7-1?? If we're chucking his name into the ring...Has anyone mentioned Gary Johnson? I'd agree with many on Powell - I see him as charlton's jacko. His personal passion for charlton probably made up for a lack of experience and tactical awareness. He still also had a decent budget and squad to work with in league 1 though his first season back in the championship with them was impressive. I'm not sure it'd work out here for him though.
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Post by workshyfop on Aug 16, 2014 9:41:25 GMT 1
I'm a fan of Johnson and Slade, but think they'll both be happy enough where they are at the moment and don't think we'll go for someone already employed. Not sure on Powell - seems too nice and spent his life in London, but I like the bloke.
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Post by townatheart on Aug 16, 2014 9:52:15 GMT 1
for me, slade and johnson both good decent managers, and if i were looking to be a consolidating steady league 1 club would be very comfortable with either of them powell a step above that level, and for me ranks with likes of mcdermott, davies, pressley, and mowbry as an ok to good type choice hughton remains my own top choice, with a strong second choice of lennon (would be highly entertaining).
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2014 10:02:12 GMT 1
i thought we were meant to be after a manager proven 'at this level' ?
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Post by BLUE&WHITE on Aug 16, 2014 10:09:13 GMT 1
i thought we were meant to be after a manager proven 'at this level' ? We've all said Houghton... We needed something else to discuss
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Post by Melc on Aug 16, 2014 10:17:19 GMT 1
Chris Powell on getting back into football..
Fuelling optimism as the season begins.... “Starting the season at home is always a great way to get things up and running. The ground is packed, the fans are buzzing wearing their new shirts, and the players are looking to do everything they can to impress. When you travel away it’s a bit different – you may not have as many fans there but they’ll still come in strong numbers and make themselves heard. “The only downside is having to name a team of 11 as you’ve had 25 players working hard as a group and growing close throughout pre-season. There is obvious disappointment if you’re not in the starting line-up and you may feel it’s not going to be a great campaign. But it’s always important to remember that the team that starts the season, very rarely, if at all, is the 11 that finishes it. “Everyone will get their turn; they have to be ready to grab the shirt when the opportunity arises whatever the circumstances. Whether you’re a manager or player, you always want to improve on the season before. You have to try and move forward, and fuel everybody’s optimism around the club, especially the supporters. The start of the season is the perfect time for that. “It really is a brilliant feeling when the competitive matches do begin after a long wait. Pre-season as a manager and as a player are two totally different entities. As a player, you’re basically looking to get yourself in tip-top condition but you only really get to your optimum when it’s about September time. After a few games, you get up to the speed of things in the league you’re playing in. “My first pre-season was in 1986. I was a young, fresh-faced 16 year-old at Crystal Palace and I’ve got to say they were the hardest five weeks of my life! I didn’t get much sleep because I kept waking up with cramp as my body wasn’t used to it. There wasn’t as much science then and whatever you were told, you did. It used to be a lot of hill work and a lot of long-distance running. “Nowadays it’s got a lot more scientific and a lot more technical; you do a lot of pre-season with the ball but also you build up your fitness by doing running which is specific to the distances you’d run within the parameters of the pitch. The more I think about it, the way it used to be was hell! As the years went by, I knew what was needed and that comes with experience. “When you’re a manager or coach, it’s a totally different concept as you’re preparing for pre-season at the end of the previous campaign. You have to make sure that the players know exactly what is needed during the off-season, and the staff get the training programme ready for their return – looking at the coaching sessions, when they need rest and when they need to be worked hard. “Of course, a huge part is choosing your pre-season matches. You have to make sure the games are at the right level – easing the players in and giving them 45 minutes each to begin with. Then you slowly build their fitness up as you can easily pick up injuries because their bodies are not used to day-to-day football. Putting them straight into a 90 minute game would be really tight for them. “Pre-season tours are a wonderful way – as long as everything is organised – to get the team together and add to the camaraderie. When I had my first full season as manager of Charlton, I actually went to the training base in Spain where we were going to train before the previous season had ended. “I went over and spent one day looking at the logistics of it all and I was really happy with it. You look to get everything right – where they’re going to eat, rooming, the facilities, areas for swimming and ice baths without upsetting holiday makers who may be staying there! There are so many things that go into it and as a manager I wanted to make sure that I got it right. “You’re training hard two-three times a day, and it’s healthy to partake in other activities. We had a night where the players could sing, dance, tell jokes and juggle – it was really good fun and you always try and do that. You get to know people’s characters and if they’re ready to step out into the limelight as such, because that’s what you have to do in certain moments during the season. “Positive results during pre-season can create a feel-good factor but really it doesn’t make any difference. I’ve had pre-seasons where it’s gone badly results-wise, but we’ve gone on to have a really good season, and vice versa, so you can never look too much into it. Either way, when the real action starts, your focus is solely on what lies ahead rather than what’s been and gone.” My first pre-season off since 1986 It’s been a good summer. After 18 months of hard work, I finally gained my UEFA Pro Licence and became a fully qualified coach in June. I don’t think there is much more studying I can do now! I will always look back on that achievement with real pride as I was part of the first cohort to pass the Pro Licence at St George’s Park – which is fast becoming known as the home of football coaching and learning. I shared the journey to getting the Pro Licence with a diverse group who all had a real love for the game. Some had played at the highest level, and others had spent time coaching abroad and in the lower leagues. Ryan Giggs, Paul Ince, Gary Neville, Micky Mellon, Wayne Burnett, Stephane Henchoz, Graham Kavanagh, Lois Fidler – only the third woman to pass the Pro Licence – and Alex Dyer and Nathan Jones – who were both on my staff at Charlton Athletic – were just a number of those on the course. There were some tough times, and sacrifices had to be made (including having to turn down a trip to the World Cup in Brazil!), but we all pulled each other through. I had to balance my studies with managing Charlton and thankfully John Peacock, the course director, was terrific and understood my day-to-day duties had to take priority. There was one occasion where I had to travel to Middlesbrough on the Friday by train before getting the coach back after our match on the Saturday evening. I arrived home just gone midnight and then had to drive to St George’s Park at 5:30am the next morning for a full day’s study from 9am-7pm. We then had another 9am-7pm schedule on Monday before finishing up with a 9am-2pm session on Tuesday. From there, I had to drive directly to Oxford United where we had an FA Cup Third Round replay. So I briefly saw my home for about five hours from Friday right up until late Tuesday night! It needed to be done and we organised everything in advance for my staff and the players. It was just one of those things that you have to do. Sometimes you have to make the odd sacrifice to make sure you come out the other end with what you’re looking for. Shortly after leaving Charlton and separate from my studies, I had the pleasure of helping coach England Under-17s. It came out of the blue after I was very kindly asked by John Peacock and Kenny Swain, and I helped them out during the qualifying stages for the European Championships which the team went on to win in Malta in May. Sadly, I couldn’t get out there for it so I had to watch it on Eurosport. I jumped up for joy when they won the final against the Netherlands on penalties! I can tell you that they actually practiced penalties for 21 days after every training session to prepare themselves for the possibility. I was really proud of them when they managed to win it. Now I’ve got the Pro Licence I’m qualified to do any management job in this country or any other league in the world. I’m ready and raring to go again, and watching on this pre-season has given me that extra eagerness to get back to management. I know I can manage, I know I can coach and I was successful during my time at Charlton. It was such a great experience for me, and I departed from the club through no fault of my own. It’s now about me making the same impression somewhere else when the opportunity arises. There are a lot of good managers and coaches that aren’t working at the minute so you have to be ready when the chance comes to get yourself back in. I am keeping myself fit and healthy so that if an interview comes, I can prove that I am the man for the job. There is a lot of discussion around the possibility of creating an equivalent to the Rooney Rule to address the lack of black and minority ethnic coaches and managers, and I understand all that entails. For me, getting your badges and becoming as qualified as you can be is crucial. I think if you get all the qualifications then people can’t exactly say – which is an easy get out – ‘you’re not qualified to do this job’. If you’re turned down because you didn’t interview correctly then that’s fine. It’s about being able to secure those interviews in the first place, then it is down to you to present yourself as the right person to lead the team and take the football club onto a bigger and brighter future. You never know where this game may take you and I am very open to potential opportunities which may come up overseas. People love English football across the world but I think we should do it more than we do when it comes to our coaches looking further afield for jobs. In life sometimes you have to take a different turn from the journey that you’re on. It may just be that you take an alternate route to the path you always thought you were going to go on, but if the opportunity is progressive and you feel it is right, why not enjoy that experience? Who knows what will happen? Hopefully we’ll see where the next chapter is for me as a manager and coach very soon. I’ve had a summer at home and it’s been enlightening as I haven’t had a pre-season off since 1986 – let’s just hope it doesn’t last until this time next year though!
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Aug 16, 2014 10:28:20 GMT 1
Ummm isn't this guy just another Robins?
Judging by the support for him on here have down fans ambitions and expectations become so dumbed down that people are getting excited that we might get Chris Powell as the next manager? People like Chris Powell, Jacko is the same, who have spent their whole career or the bulk of it at one club and are in love with that club cannot manage any other club, Chris Powell is one of these, we aren't Charlton Athletic.
After the names bandied about for the job, whether there is any substance to them or not, Powell would be a major let down. I appreciate we aren't a particularly a big club with pots of brass, but Chris Powell, seriously?
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Post by townatheart on Aug 16, 2014 10:34:01 GMT 1
Ummm isn't this guy just another Robins? Judging by the support for him on here have down fans ambitions and expectations become so dumbed down that people are getting excited that we might get Chris Powell as the next manager? People like Chris Powell, Jacko is the same, who have spent their whole career or the bulk of it at one club and are in love with that club cannot manage any other club, Chris Powell is one of these, we aren't Charlton Athletic. After the names bandied about for the job, whether there is any substance to them or not, Powell would be a major let down. I appreciate we aren't a particularly a big club with pots of brass, but Chris Powell, seriously? out of curiosity, how do you rank the names being bandied about?
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Aug 16, 2014 10:48:34 GMT 1
Ummm isn't this guy just another Robins? Judging by the support for him on here have down fans ambitions and expectations become so dumbed down that people are getting excited that we might get Chris Powell as the next manager? People like Chris Powell, Jacko is the same, who have spent their whole career or the bulk of it at one club and are in love with that club cannot manage any other club, Chris Powell is one of these, we aren't Charlton Athletic. After the names bandied about for the job, whether there is any substance to them or not, Powell would be a major let down. I appreciate we aren't a particularly a big club with pots of brass, but Chris Powell, seriously? out of curiosity, how do you rank the names being bandied about?The names bandied about are heavyweights for a club like Town and Powell and Pressley are a world away from these names, a chasm of a difference.
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Post by Melc on Aug 16, 2014 10:51:11 GMT 1
Ummm isn't this guy just another Robins? Judging by the support for him on here have down fans ambitions and expectations become so dumbed down that people are getting excited that we might get Chris Powell as the next manager? People like Chris Powell, Jacko is the same, who have spent their whole career or the bulk of it at one club and are in love with that club cannot manage any other club, Chris Powell is one of these, we aren't Charlton Athletic. After the names bandied about for the job, whether there is any substance to them or not, Powell would be a major let down. I appreciate we aren't a particularly a big club with pots of brass, but Chris Powell, seriously? Who knows arterrier, we all want the best for htfc but we have to be realistic. We run our club on a path that many so called bigger managers won't buy into as they would ask for big salaries, and a decent budget to spend on players. That is not how we run now and any manager who gets as far as a second interview will clearly have to fit into our ethos and pathways already set out. Powell could be a good bet to fit into our setup, but we need to get this sorted sometime next week to give any new man time to act in the transfer window!
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Post by townatheart on Aug 16, 2014 10:54:51 GMT 1
out of curiosity, how do you rank the names being bandied about? The names bandied about are heavyweights for a club like Town and Powell and Pressley are a world away from these names, a chasm of a difference. agree, but am asking genuine question, out of the names who would you prefer to see come in? or, are you suggesting we have no chance at the heavyweights (that would be the likely scenario) and the lightweights are not acceptable? any other candidates you can see that would fall in between the heavyweights not likely to come and the lightweights that would not excite?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2014 10:57:02 GMT 1
In order I'd like Lennon - Hughton - Powell. The first 2 I thought came across very well on Goals on Sunday last week. Lennon although he hasn't managed in England obviously played here for a long time and it sounded to me like he's been gearing himself up for a Championship job. He has the sort of passion I'd like from our next manager and I think he could create the right atmosphere in the squad to get the best out of them. He's also shown good tactical knowledge with some of Celtic's results in europe. Hughton has had success in the Championship already, he seems like a good man and must have something in him that has created such a brilliant home record at this level. As for Powell I hadn't really thought about him to be honest but I wouldn't be disappointed with him, my only slight concern is not him being a London boy but being a Charlton boy and whether he could transfer the passion he would've had for them to another club. I do think we have better players now than he had at Charlton so I think he'd do a good job here. Not too keen on any of the other "candidates" for various reasons. I tHINK YOU MAKE A GOOD POINT ALL ROUND AND KNOWING SOMEONE WHO HAS TRAINED AND PLAYED UNDER LENNON AT CELTIC YOU ARE CORRECT IN SAYING HIS PASSION AND IS DESIRE WOULD BE A THING THAT WE NEED AS WELL AS HIS TACTICAL KNOWLEDGE HE IS A FIERY CHARACTER BUT FROM WHAT I KNOW A FAIR ONE.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Aug 16, 2014 11:04:09 GMT 1
The names bandied about are heavyweights for a club like Town and Powell and Pressley are a world away from these names, a chasm of a difference. agree, but am asking genuine question, out of the names who would you prefer to see come in? or, are you suggesting we have no chance at the heavyweights (that would be the likely scenario) and the lightweights are not acceptable? any other candidates you can see that would fall in between the heavyweights not likely to come and the lightweights that would not excite? Yes, it is difficult to get the balance right. I suppose it depends how badly people like Lennon and McKay need or want a job, from a money point I wouldn't say they need the job or the hassle that might come with a job like Town. In Lennon's case he might want to prove himself after managing a club like Celtic where me and you could manage them to the title and both cups. Think that's why he left Celtic, there was very little challenge. I would like to see Lennon given the job, but wages could be a massive stumbling block. The way round this could be a series of big bonus payments for certain goals met, like a top 10 finish could involve a bonus of 100k or a promotion 200k.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2014 11:04:32 GMT 1
i thought we were meant to be after a manager proven 'at this level' ? Dean never said at this level he said a leader of men who had done it and not saying which division he would be from. Listen to his interview.
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Post by beadlesrighthand on Aug 16, 2014 11:07:46 GMT 1
Chris Powell on getting back into football.. Fuelling optimism as the season begins.... “Starting the season at home is always a great way to get things up and running. The ground is packed, the fans are buzzing wearing their new shirts, and the players are looking to do everything they can to impress. When you travel away it’s a bit different – you may not have as many fans there but they’ll still come in strong numbers and make themselves heard. “The only downside is having to name a team of 11 as you’ve had 25 players working hard as a group and growing close throughout pre-season. There is obvious disappointment if you’re not in the starting line-up and you may feel it’s not going to be a great campaign. But it’s always important to remember that the team that starts the season, very rarely, if at all, is the 11 that finishes it. “Everyone will get their turn; they have to be ready to grab the shirt when the opportunity arises whatever the circumstances. Whether you’re a manager or player, you always want to improve on the season before. You have to try and move forward, and fuel everybody’s optimism around the club, especially the supporters. The start of the season is the perfect time for that. “It really is a brilliant feeling when the competitive matches do begin after a long wait. Pre-season as a manager and as a player are two totally different entities. As a player, you’re basically looking to get yourself in tip-top condition but you only really get to your optimum when it’s about September time. After a few games, you get up to the speed of things in the league you’re playing in. “My first pre-season was in 1986. I was a young, fresh-faced 16 year-old at Crystal Palace and I’ve got to say they were the hardest five weeks of my life! I didn’t get much sleep because I kept waking up with cramp as my body wasn’t used to it. There wasn’t as much science then and whatever you were told, you did. It used to be a lot of hill work and a lot of long-distance running. “Nowadays it’s got a lot more scientific and a lot more technical; you do a lot of pre-season with the ball but also you build up your fitness by doing running which is specific to the distances you’d run within the parameters of the pitch. The more I think about it, the way it used to be was hell! As the years went by, I knew what was needed and that comes with experience. “When you’re a manager or coach, it’s a totally different concept as you’re preparing for pre-season at the end of the previous campaign. You have to make sure that the players know exactly what is needed during the off-season, and the staff get the training programme ready for their return – looking at the coaching sessions, when they need rest and when they need to be worked hard. “Of course, a huge part is choosing your pre-season matches. You have to make sure the games are at the right level – easing the players in and giving them 45 minutes each to begin with. Then you slowly build their fitness up as you can easily pick up injuries because their bodies are not used to day-to-day football. Putting them straight into a 90 minute game would be really tight for them. “Pre-season tours are a wonderful way – as long as everything is organised – to get the team together and add to the camaraderie. When I had my first full season as manager of Charlton, I actually went to the training base in Spain where we were going to train before the previous season had ended. “I went over and spent one day looking at the logistics of it all and I was really happy with it. You look to get everything right – where they’re going to eat, rooming, the facilities, areas for swimming and ice baths without upsetting holiday makers who may be staying there! There are so many things that go into it and as a manager I wanted to make sure that I got it right. “You’re training hard two-three times a day, and it’s healthy to partake in other activities. We had a night where the players could sing, dance, tell jokes and juggle – it was really good fun and you always try and do that. You get to know people’s characters and if they’re ready to step out into the limelight as such, because that’s what you have to do in certain moments during the season. “Positive results during pre-season can create a feel-good factor but really it doesn’t make any difference. I’ve had pre-seasons where it’s gone badly results-wise, but we’ve gone on to have a really good season, and vice versa, so you can never look too much into it. Either way, when the real action starts, your focus is solely on what lies ahead rather than what’s been and gone.” My first pre-season off since 1986 It’s been a good summer. After 18 months of hard work, I finally gained my UEFA Pro Licence and became a fully qualified coach in June. I don’t think there is much more studying I can do now! I will always look back on that achievement with real pride as I was part of the first cohort to pass the Pro Licence at St George’s Park – which is fast becoming known as the home of football coaching and learning. I shared the journey to getting the Pro Licence with a diverse group who all had a real love for the game. Some had played at the highest level, and others had spent time coaching abroad and in the lower leagues. Ryan Giggs, Paul Ince, Gary Neville, Micky Mellon, Wayne Burnett, Stephane Henchoz, Graham Kavanagh, Lois Fidler – only the third woman to pass the Pro Licence – and Alex Dyer and Nathan Jones – who were both on my staff at Charlton Athletic – were just a number of those on the course. There were some tough times, and sacrifices had to be made (including having to turn down a trip to the World Cup in Brazil!), but we all pulled each other through. I had to balance my studies with managing Charlton and thankfully John Peacock, the course director, was terrific and understood my day-to-day duties had to take priority. There was one occasion where I had to travel to Middlesbrough on the Friday by train before getting the coach back after our match on the Saturday evening. I arrived home just gone midnight and then had to drive to St George’s Park at 5:30am the next morning for a full day’s study from 9am-7pm. We then had another 9am-7pm schedule on Monday before finishing up with a 9am-2pm session on Tuesday. From there, I had to drive directly to Oxford United where we had an FA Cup Third Round replay. So I briefly saw my home for about five hours from Friday right up until late Tuesday night! It needed to be done and we organised everything in advance for my staff and the players. It was just one of those things that you have to do. Sometimes you have to make the odd sacrifice to make sure you come out the other end with what you’re looking for. Shortly after leaving Charlton and separate from my studies, I had the pleasure of helping coach England Under-17s. It came out of the blue after I was very kindly asked by John Peacock and Kenny Swain, and I helped them out during the qualifying stages for the European Championships which the team went on to win in Malta in May. Sadly, I couldn’t get out there for it so I had to watch it on Eurosport. I jumped up for joy when they won the final against the Netherlands on penalties! I can tell you that they actually practiced penalties for 21 days after every training session to prepare themselves for the possibility. I was really proud of them when they managed to win it. Now I’ve got the Pro Licence I’m qualified to do any management job in this country or any other league in the world. I’m ready and raring to go again, and watching on this pre-season has given me that extra eagerness to get back to management. I know I can manage, I know I can coach and I was successful during my time at Charlton. It was such a great experience for me, and I departed from the club through no fault of my own. It’s now about me making the same impression somewhere else when the opportunity arises. There are a lot of good managers and coaches that aren’t working at the minute so you have to be ready when the chance comes to get yourself back in. I am keeping myself fit and healthy so that if an interview comes, I can prove that I am the man for the job. There is a lot of discussion around the possibility of creating an equivalent to the Rooney Rule to address the lack of black and minority ethnic coaches and managers, and I understand all that entails. For me, getting your badges and becoming as qualified as you can be is crucial. I think if you get all the qualifications then people can’t exactly say – which is an easy get out – ‘you’re not qualified to do this job’. If you’re turned down because you didn’t interview correctly then that’s fine. It’s about being able to secure those interviews in the first place, then it is down to you to present yourself as the right person to lead the team and take the football club onto a bigger and brighter future. You never know where this game may take you and I am very open to potential opportunities which may come up overseas. People love English football across the world but I think we should do it more than we do when it comes to our coaches looking further afield for jobs. In life sometimes you have to take a different turn from the journey that you’re on. It may just be that you take an alternate route to the path you always thought you were going to go on, but if the opportunity is progressive and you feel it is right, why not enjoy that experience? Who knows what will happen? Hopefully we’ll see where the next chapter is for me as a manager and coach very soon. I’ve had a summer at home and it’s been enlightening as I haven’t had a pre-season off since 1986 – let’s just hope it doesn’t last until this time next year though! Alex Dyer!
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Post by diceman on Aug 16, 2014 11:34:05 GMT 1
I would be a bit under whelmed to be honest. Not saying he couldn't do a decent job. Just not a real statement of intent. Unless the statement is we're happy to be floating somewhere close to relegation season in season out. To be bluntly honest I would rather stick with Lillis. I know he isn't in the hat but I think he could do as good a job as Powell.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2014 14:55:55 GMT 1
I would be a bit under whelmed to be honest. Not saying he couldn't do a decent job. Just not a real statement of intent. Unless the statement is we're happy to be floating somewhere close to relegation season in season out. To be bluntly honest I would rather stick with Lillis. I know he isn't in the hat but I think he could do as good a job as Powell. Oggy on radio leeds just said has been told by a senior figure in the club that Powell as applied but radio tees saying mowbray has as well. have drawn up a shortlist and dont expect it to drag on beyond next week. Interesting
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Post by iangreaves on Aug 16, 2014 15:21:20 GMT 1
I would be a bit under whelmed to be honest. Not saying he couldn't do a decent job. Just not a real statement of intent. Unless the statement is we're happy to be floating somewhere close to relegation season in season out. To be bluntly honest I would rather stick with Lillis. I know he isn't in the hat but I think he could do as good a job as Powell. Oggy on radio leeds just said has been told by a senior figure in the club that Powell as applied but radio tees saying mowbray has as well. have drawn up a shortlist and dont expect it to drag on beyond next week. Interesting Would have thought just about every out-of-work manager in the country would have applied.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2014 15:29:26 GMT 1
Oggy on radio leeds just said has been told by a senior figure in the club that Powell as applied but radio tees saying mowbray has as well. have drawn up a shortlist and dont expect it to drag on beyond next week. Interesting Would have thought just about every out-of-work manager in the country would have applied. Dont think they all will have!.But the ones above have by all accounts and WE WILL SEE WHAT DEVELOPS.
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Post by sheriffdenzal on Aug 17, 2014 18:56:49 GMT 1
I would be a bit under whelmed to be honest. Not saying he couldn't do a decent job. Just not a real statement of intent. Unless the statement is we're happy to be floating somewhere close to relegation season in season out. To be bluntly honest I would rather stick with Lillis. I know he isn't in the hat but I think he could do as good a job as Powell. Oggy on radio leeds just said has been told by a senior figure in the club that Powell as applied but radio tees saying mowbray has as well. have drawn up a shortlist and dont expect it to drag on beyond next week. Interesting Powell was contacted by the club last Sunday so he was asked to apply... Anyway the interview is tomorrow at the stadium.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2014 19:41:54 GMT 1
Chris Powell on getting back into football.. Fuelling optimism as the season begins.... “Starting the season at home is always a great way to get things up and running. The ground is packed, the fans are buzzing wearing their new shirts, and the players are looking to do everything they can to impress. When you travel away it’s a bit different – you may not have as many fans there but they’ll still come in strong numbers and make themselves heard. “The only downside is having to name a team of 11 as you’ve had 25 players working hard as a group and growing close throughout pre-season. There is obvious disappointment if you’re not in the starting line-up and you may feel it’s not going to be a great campaign. But it’s always important to remember that the team that starts the season, very rarely, if at all, is the 11 that finishes it. “Everyone will get their turn; they have to be ready to grab the shirt when the opportunity arises whatever the circumstances. Whether you’re a manager or player, you always want to improve on the season before. You have to try and move forward, and fuel everybody’s optimism around the club, especially the supporters. The start of the season is the perfect time for that. “It really is a brilliant feeling when the competitive matches do begin after a long wait. Pre-season as a manager and as a player are two totally different entities. As a player, you’re basically looking to get yourself in tip-top condition but you only really get to your optimum when it’s about September time. After a few games, you get up to the speed of things in the league you’re playing in. “My first pre-season was in 1986. I was a young, fresh-faced 16 year-old at Crystal Palace and I’ve got to say they were the hardest five weeks of my life! I didn’t get much sleep because I kept waking up with cramp as my body wasn’t used to it. There wasn’t as much science then and whatever you were told, you did. It used to be a lot of hill work and a lot of long-distance running. “Nowadays it’s got a lot more scientific and a lot more technical; you do a lot of pre-season with the ball but also you build up your fitness by doing running which is specific to the distances you’d run within the parameters of the pitch. The more I think about it, the way it used to be was hell! As the years went by, I knew what was needed and that comes with experience. “When you’re a manager or coach, it’s a totally different concept as you’re preparing for pre-season at the end of the previous campaign. You have to make sure that the players know exactly what is needed during the off-season, and the staff get the training programme ready for their return – looking at the coaching sessions, when they need rest and when they need to be worked hard. “Of course, a huge part is choosing your pre-season matches. You have to make sure the games are at the right level – easing the players in and giving them 45 minutes each to begin with. Then you slowly build their fitness up as you can easily pick up injuries because their bodies are not used to day-to-day football. Putting them straight into a 90 minute game would be really tight for them. “Pre-season tours are a wonderful way – as long as everything is organised – to get the team together and add to the camaraderie. When I had my first full season as manager of Charlton, I actually went to the training base in Spain where we were going to train before the previous season had ended. “I went over and spent one day looking at the logistics of it all and I was really happy with it. You look to get everything right – where they’re going to eat, rooming, the facilities, areas for swimming and ice baths without upsetting holiday makers who may be staying there! There are so many things that go into it and as a manager I wanted to make sure that I got it right. “You’re training hard two-three times a day, and it’s healthy to partake in other activities. We had a night where the players could sing, dance, tell jokes and juggle – it was really good fun and you always try and do that. You get to know people’s characters and if they’re ready to step out into the limelight as such, because that’s what you have to do in certain moments during the season. “Positive results during pre-season can create a feel-good factor but really it doesn’t make any difference. I’ve had pre-seasons where it’s gone badly results-wise, but we’ve gone on to have a really good season, and vice versa, so you can never look too much into it. Either way, when the real action starts, your focus is solely on what lies ahead rather than what’s been and gone.” My first pre-season off since 1986 It’s been a good summer. After 18 months of hard work, I finally gained my UEFA Pro Licence and became a fully qualified coach in June. I don’t think there is much more studying I can do now! I will always look back on that achievement with real pride as I was part of the first cohort to pass the Pro Licence at St George’s Park – which is fast becoming known as the home of football coaching and learning. I shared the journey to getting the Pro Licence with a diverse group who all had a real love for the game. Some had played at the highest level, and others had spent time coaching abroad and in the lower leagues. Ryan Giggs, Paul Ince, Gary Neville, Micky Mellon, Wayne Burnett, Stephane Henchoz, Graham Kavanagh, Lois Fidler – only the third woman to pass the Pro Licence – and Alex Dyer and Nathan Jones – who were both on my staff at Charlton Athletic – were just a number of those on the course. There were some tough times, and sacrifices had to be made (including having to turn down a trip to the World Cup in Brazil!), but we all pulled each other through. I had to balance my studies with managing Charlton and thankfully John Peacock, the course director, was terrific and understood my day-to-day duties had to take priority. There was one occasion where I had to travel to Middlesbrough on the Friday by train before getting the coach back after our match on the Saturday evening. I arrived home just gone midnight and then had to drive to St George’s Park at 5:30am the next morning for a full day’s study from 9am-7pm. We then had another 9am-7pm schedule on Monday before finishing up with a 9am-2pm session on Tuesday. From there, I had to drive directly to Oxford United where we had an FA Cup Third Round replay. So I briefly saw my home for about five hours from Friday right up until late Tuesday night! It needed to be done and we organised everything in advance for my staff and the players. It was just one of those things that you have to do. Sometimes you have to make the odd sacrifice to make sure you come out the other end with what you’re looking for. Shortly after leaving Charlton and separate from my studies, I had the pleasure of helping coach England Under-17s. It came out of the blue after I was very kindly asked by John Peacock and Kenny Swain, and I helped them out during the qualifying stages for the European Championships which the team went on to win in Malta in May. Sadly, I couldn’t get out there for it so I had to watch it on Eurosport. I jumped up for joy when they won the final against the Netherlands on penalties! I can tell you that they actually practiced penalties for 21 days after every training session to prepare themselves for the possibility. I was really proud of them when they managed to win it. Now I’ve got the Pro Licence I’m qualified to do any management job in this country or any other league in the world. I’m ready and raring to go again, and watching on this pre-season has given me that extra eagerness to get back to management. I know I can manage, I know I can coach and I was successful during my time at Charlton. It was such a great experience for me, and I departed from the club through no fault of my own. It’s now about me making the same impression somewhere else when the opportunity arises. There are a lot of good managers and coaches that aren’t working at the minute so you have to be ready when the chance comes to get yourself back in. I am keeping myself fit and healthy so that if an interview comes, I can prove that I am the man for the job. There is a lot of discussion around the possibility of creating an equivalent to the Rooney Rule to address the lack of black and minority ethnic coaches and managers, and I understand all that entails. For me, getting your badges and becoming as qualified as you can be is crucial. I think if you get all the qualifications then people can’t exactly say – which is an easy get out – ‘you’re not qualified to do this job’. If you’re turned down because you didn’t interview correctly then that’s fine. It’s about being able to secure those interviews in the first place, then it is down to you to present yourself as the right person to lead the team and take the football club onto a bigger and brighter future. You never know where this game may take you and I am very open to potential opportunities which may come up overseas. People love English football across the world but I think we should do it more than we do when it comes to our coaches looking further afield for jobs. In life sometimes you have to take a different turn from the journey that you’re on. It may just be that you take an alternate route to the path you always thought you were going to go on, but if the opportunity is progressive and you feel it is right, why not enjoy that experience? Who knows what will happen? Hopefully we’ll see where the next chapter is for me as a manager and coach very soon. I’ve had a summer at home and it’s been enlightening as I haven’t had a pre-season off since 1986 – let’s just hope it doesn’t last until this time next year though! I think that's a terrific interview from the guy. He's certainly come into my reckoning a bit more. Thanks for posting, melc.
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