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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man on Aug 26, 2014 13:09:58 GMT 1
It’s been over two weeks since Mark Robins left the club – two weeks of a transfer window at the start of a season that could go very badly wrong if the wheels fall off. What do people think about the time taken to make a decision so far?
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Post by catterickterrier on Aug 26, 2014 13:11:42 GMT 1
When Lillis has a bad spell (if he stays in charge) they will point to this as taking too long
We don't know what's going on behind the scenes though
My concern is a couple of decent performances and people have forgotten all about some areas that need addressing and we have a few days in which to do so
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Post by runner76 on Aug 26, 2014 13:13:08 GMT 1
no rush with ML at the helm.......get it right, not quick....
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Post by thrice on Aug 26, 2014 13:22:32 GMT 1
The sooner the better.
Otherwise we will soon be saying that the new mans hands are tied because he has not been able to assemble his squad.
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Post by ritchie on Aug 26, 2014 13:29:12 GMT 1
No point rushing the decision appointing someone just so we can get some transfers in!! We do need a some quality but If we get the wrong man it will be a lot worse than if we dont strengthen (not ideal, but can always be saved for loan window/january).
I imagine squad assessment/player recruitment has been a big talking point all through the interview process so whoever gets it will have a clear idea of what needs to be done and go get them done. The money is there so maybe we'll end up paying a little extra than we would with our usual tough negotiating approach, to get a couple over the line, but I dont expect us to do anything rash.
A good enough coach should be able to keep this squad in the race until january, if we cant manage any deals before then.
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Post by HalifaxTerrier on Aug 26, 2014 13:39:08 GMT 1
The Palace job still been up for grabs probably doesn't help our situation. Maybe we've identified our man but he's still in the running for that one as well, probably best to wait than rush what could be a crucial appointment. The loan window will still be available for a new manager to use ahead of January anyway so no need to panic about transfers just yet.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2014 13:48:50 GMT 1
It’s been over two weeks since Mark Robins left the club – two weeks of a transfer window at the start of a season that could go very badly wrong if the wheels fall off. What do people think about the time taken to make a decision so far? It took three weeks to appoint Robins, no rush and get it right. |
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Post by midlander on Aug 26, 2014 13:57:19 GMT 1
The 'best' man for the job is obviously the key factor, but there is no such thing as the 'right' man. Any appointment is a risk and will only be deemed a success or failure somewhere down the line. We need to get the best candidate that we can and I can only second guess as to why it has taken this amount of time. Maybe the man they really want needs convincing to join, maybe they haven't been totally convinced by anyone they've interviewed. Maybe they had one in mind and a couple of others threw their hat into the ring at the last minute. Thing is, the club gives absolutely nothing away in the whole process. Not a crumb. Whilst I can appreciate it with transfers, it wouldn't harm just to make a statement saying we are conducting first/second/third interviews and hope to have it sorted by X, so that we can stop speculating as to when it might happen.
Whilst the Palace job may have thrown a spanner in the works, the possibility of Fulham and Leeds being available shortly could throw us even further off. I'd like to see us conclude it before the weekend if possible.
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man on Aug 26, 2014 13:58:45 GMT 1
It’s been over two weeks since Mark Robins left the club – two weeks of a transfer window at the start of a season that could go very badly wrong if the wheels fall off. What do people think about the time taken to make a decision so far? It took three weeks to appoint Robins, no rush and get it right. Perhaps not the best example, given how things ended up. But I take your point. My position would be that by waiting any longer than teh next day or so, the new man has an excuse in his pocket in teh same way that Robins and Grayson did - it's not his squad. Even if we get someone in now, a new man can argue that until the end of 2015/6 season. Also, the "lilis effect" will wear off soon. We have 4 tuoght fixtures coming up in the league, very tough. |
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man on Aug 26, 2014 13:59:28 GMT 1
The Palace job still been up for grabs probably doesn't help our situation. Maybe we've identified our man but he's still in the running for that one as well, probably best to wait than rush what could be a crucial appointment. The loan window will still be available for a new manager to use ahead of January anyway so no need to panic about transfers just yet. Not certain we're fishing the same waters as Palace. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2014 14:07:21 GMT 1
It seems to me that on the signings front we are falling into the exact same trap that we did in the second half of last season when we were desperate for reinforcements but instead decided to rest on our laurels.
We desperately need reinforcements in defence and attack, if the process of appointing a new manager is going to drag on then let Lillis bring in some signings.
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Post by htafctaunton on Aug 26, 2014 14:25:19 GMT 1
Are you all sure we NEED to buy???
We have quite a few good young players coming through (just look at Harry Bunn - played brilliantly in the last 2 games but probably would not have played if MR was still in charge).
We have Lolley still to come in, and young Holmes (both will be class if given games to settle in).Plus our re-vamped midfield of Coady (what a buy!!), Butterfield and Majiewski..............
Lets give OUR OWN players a chance to prove themselves, I think there is enough quality to shock the (DATM) doubters!
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Post by HalifaxTerrier on Aug 26, 2014 14:33:41 GMT 1
The Palace job still been up for grabs probably doesn't help our situation. Maybe we've identified our man but he's still in the running for that one as well, probably best to wait than rush what could be a crucial appointment. The loan window will still be available for a new manager to use ahead of January anyway so no need to panic about transfers just yet. Not certain we're fishing the same waters as Palace. Neil Lennon has been strongly linked to both. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2014 14:45:28 GMT 1
Are you all sure we NEED to buy??? We have quite a few good young players coming through (just look at Harry Bunn - played brilliantly in the last 2 games but probably would not have played if MR was still in charge). We have Lolley still to come in, and young Holmes (both will be class if given games to settle in).Plus our re-vamped midfield of Coady (what a buy!!), Butterfield and Majiewski.............. Lets give OUR OWN players a chance to prove themselves, I think there is enough quality to shock the (DATM) doubters! We tried that last season and it got us in the shiite |
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man on Aug 26, 2014 15:28:35 GMT 1
Not certain we're fishing the same waters as Palace. Neil Lennon has been strongly linked to both. Probably by Lennon's agent and someone who produced a relatively convincing faked photo. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2014 15:40:58 GMT 1
It took three weeks to appoint Robins, no rush and get it right. Perhaps not the best example, given how things ended up. But I take your point. My position would be that by waiting any longer than teh next day or so, the new man has an excuse in his pocket in teh same way that Robins and Grayson did - it's not his squad. Even if we get someone in now, a new man can argue that until the end of 2015/6 season. Also, the "lilis effect" will wear off soon. We have 4 tuoght fixtures coming up in the league, very tough. Players such as Gerrard are on the way back, in any case I think we're more likely to loan players in, so no rush.... |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Aug 26, 2014 15:41:06 GMT 1
im all for waiting as long as it takes, however long that is. I also agree that taking an age or doing it quickly might not make one iota of difference.
I have made mention of the possible hold ups to a manager coming on board but was viciously attacked and being of a meek nature I wont make them again, honest.
Think about the last 2 managers or possibly 3 and you would certainly be talking long and hard and looking for definite black and white on your contract before your agent would let you sign for town as manager. It might take a while..
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Aug 26, 2014 16:51:19 GMT 1
The big question here is if the club are thinking of buying a player or bringing one or more in on emergency loan contracts. . The transfer window closes on Aug 31st which is followed one week later with the start of the emergency loan market that ends on the fourth Thursday in November and surely the latter would suit a club who seem in no hurry to appoint a new manager. This might also indicate that most of recent transfer money recieved might go towards reducing the clubs rising 30.3 million net debt and from a business point of view might make far better sense especially if Mr Hoyle is thinking of selling the club in the very near future.
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man on Aug 26, 2014 16:59:08 GMT 1
im all for waiting as long as it takes, however long that is. I also agree that taking an age or doing it quickly might not make one iota of difference. I have made mention of the possible hold ups to a manager coming on board but was viciously attacked and being of a meek nature I wont make them again, honest. Think about the last 2 managers or possibly 3 and you would certainly be talking long and hard and looking for definite black and white on your contract before your agent would let you sign for town as manager. It might take a while..   |
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Post by JT on Aug 26, 2014 17:03:06 GMT 1
It’s been over two weeks since Mark Robins left the club – two weeks of a transfer window at the start of a season that could go very badly wrong if the wheels fall off. What do people think about the time taken to make a decision so far? It took three weeks to appoint Robins, no rush a and get it right. and he got that wrong |
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Post by ruud1boy on Aug 26, 2014 17:06:58 GMT 1
The big question here is if the club are thinking of buying a player or bringing one or more in on emergency loan contracts. . The transfer window closes on Aug 31st which is followed one week later with the start of the emergency loan market that ends on the fourth Thursday in November and surely the latter would suit a club who seem in no hurry to appoint a new manager. This might also indicate that most of recent transfer money recieved might go towards reducing the clubs rising 30.3 million net debt and from a business point of view might make far better sense especially if Mr Hoyle is thinking of selling the club in the very near future. Why do you keep mentioning this? Has Hoyle given any intimation that he's looking to sell up? No. Would it be financially advantageous to him to sell up any time soon? No. Do you have any insider knowledge? No. Do you have a clue? No. |
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Aug 26, 2014 17:17:20 GMT 1
It took three weeks to appoint Robins, no rush a and get it right. and he got that wrong No guarantee with even the best out of work managers and surely we are blessed at the moment with what seems to be more a miracle worker than that of a caretaker manager and who has taken this club back to the heights unseen for a very long time. |
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Aug 26, 2014 17:21:57 GMT 1
The big question here is if the club are thinking of buying a player or bringing one or more in on emergency loan contracts. . The transfer window closes on Aug 31st which is followed one week later with the start of the emergency loan market that ends on the fourth Thursday in November and surely the latter would suit a club who seem in no hurry to appoint a new manager. This might also indicate that most of recent transfer money recieved might go towards reducing the clubs rising 30.3 million net debt and from a business point of view might make far better sense especially if Mr Hoyle is thinking of selling the club in the very near future. Why do you keep mentioning this? Has Hoyle given any intimation that he's looking to sell up? No. Would it be financially advantageous to him to sell up any time soon? No. Do you have any insider knowledge? No. Do you have a clue? No. Surely my post regarding debt makes good business sense plus i said in the above post ( If Mr Hoyle is thinking ) as you never know especially with intimations made in his recent radio Leeds interview . I think Hoyle is the best chairman the club has ever had but i think we all might agree that he wont be around for ever . |
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Post by ruud1boy on Aug 26, 2014 20:16:53 GMT 1
There's a bit of a difference between 'won't be around forever' and 'thinking of selling the club in the very near future'.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2014 22:04:56 GMT 1
It took three weeks to appoint Robins, no rush a and get it right. and he got that wrong He achieved his objective, ie we maintained our Championship status. You've got that wrong.  |
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Post by space hardware on Aug 26, 2014 22:17:36 GMT 1
He achieved his objective, ie we maintained our Championship status. You've got that wrong. Who would you like to see as the new boss Codd? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2014 22:20:46 GMT 1
He achieved his objective, ie we maintained our Championship status. You've got that wrong. Who would you like to see as the new boss Codd? Powell |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2014 22:21:40 GMT 1
Reading between the lines listening to Radio Leeds it doesn't sound as if many potential managers of the right quality are queuing up for the job.
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Post by raggytash on Aug 26, 2014 22:34:47 GMT 1
After tonite I think we need a new man in pretty quick, we are still lacking in defence and the final third. We gave up after the first goal, game over.
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man on Aug 27, 2014 8:35:13 GMT 1
After tonite I think we need a new man in pretty quick, we are still lacking in defence and the final third. We gave up after the first goal, game over. I don't think last night's performance or result has an impact on urgency for an appointment. We played a changed side and lost to the early pace setters in the championship who have been boosted by naming a massive name (in their terms) as manager this summer. But....we have 4 games ahead which will be extremely tough and a new gaffer could be the boost we want - Watford away, Boro and wigan at home, then Leeds away. Could quite easily be four defeats if we're not "on it". |
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