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Post by betsvigi9 on Aug 28, 2014 8:04:52 GMT 1
In today's Yorkshire Post, Lillis states, "They (the Town board) go get a new manager or they have a word with myself and see where I am with it." The words "hat" and "ring" come to mind. Surely this is a serious development, whatever your point of view about Lillis' value to the club?
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Post by 3Pipe on Aug 28, 2014 8:07:06 GMT 1
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Post by Tanzanian Terrier on Aug 28, 2014 8:07:41 GMT 1
In today's Yorkshire Post, Lillis states, "They (the Town board) go get a new manager or they have a word with myself and see where I am with it." The words "hat" and "ring" come to mind. Surely this is a serious development, whatever your point of view about Lillis' value to the club? Surely they will know his views already, unless he has changed his mind. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2014 8:13:51 GMT 1
They have known his feelings about the job ever since he took control.
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Post by yorkshiretripod on Aug 28, 2014 8:40:31 GMT 1
Pretty much the same on the back of The Examiner, without a quote from Lillis. Or at least I didn't see one as I skimmed it. It mentions McKinlay having impressed the board and the usual suspects. If it were to be the aforementioned Scot, it really would totally contradict Dean's own comments on the radio about employing a been there, done it kind of boss. If the likes of Lennon have been interviewed, I fail to see how he couldn't have impressed.
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Post by catterickterrier on Aug 28, 2014 8:43:12 GMT 1
Pretty much the same on the back of The Examiner, without a quote from Lillis. Or at least I didn't see one as I skimmed it. It mentions McKinlay having impressed the board and the usual suspects. If it were to be the aforementioned Scot, it really would totally contradict Dean's own comments on the radio about employing a been there, done it kind of boss. If the likes of Lennon have been interviewed, I fail to see how he couldn't have impressed. Agree with this If McKinley has 'impressed' then previous quotes of the experience and been there done it sort of thing just look daft really Not being harsh but same could be said about Lillis if appointed |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Aug 28, 2014 8:45:30 GMT 1
Things change
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Post by yorkshiretripod on Aug 28, 2014 8:52:54 GMT 1
Very true chips, but bringing in a guy who has never managed before just seems like the ideal way to wind up the moaning minority for when/if it starts to go awry. On t'other hand, he could prove to be a Brendan Rodgers.
Anyway, perhaps tomorrow may be the unveiling? Allow the new guy to see us play, then have the break to assess and plan.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Aug 28, 2014 9:14:52 GMT 1
Very true chips, but bringing in a guy who has never managed before just seems like the ideal way to wind up the moaning minority for when/if it starts to go awry. On t'other hand, he could prove to be a Brendan Rodgers. Anyway, perhaps tomorrow may be the unveiling? Allow the new guy to see us play, then have the break to assess and plan. Who has never managed before ? Ps isn't this process about trying to identify the best man for the job ? Who cares what the moaning minority think |
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Post by OldRastrickian on Aug 28, 2014 9:18:07 GMT 1
Whoever gets the job, like god-knows-how-many of his predecessors, his will only be a temporary appointment. 2-3 years max, then ta-ta.
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Post by DannyG on Aug 28, 2014 9:19:01 GMT 1
Who cares what the moaning minority think Dean Hoyle, going by his interview after Robins' departure  |
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Post by barnsleydaz on Aug 28, 2014 9:21:28 GMT 1
Very true chips, but bringing in a guy who has never managed before just seems like the ideal way to wind up the moaning minority for when/if it starts to go awry. On t'other hand, he could prove to be a Brendan Rodgers. Anyway, perhaps tomorrow may be the unveiling? Allow the new guy to see us play, then have the break to assess and plan. Who has never managed before ? Ps isn't this process about trying to identify the best man for the job ? Who cares what the moaning minority think I agree with you, but unfortunately it seams DH does care what the minority think. |
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Post by yorkshiretripod on Aug 28, 2014 9:23:56 GMT 1
Very true chips, but bringing in a guy who has never managed before just seems like the ideal way to wind up the moaning minority for when/if it starts to go awry. On t'other hand, he could prove to be a Brendan Rodgers. Anyway, perhaps tomorrow may be the unveiling? Allow the new guy to see us play, then have the break to assess and plan. Who has never managed before ? Ps isn't this process about trying to identify the best man for the job ? Who cares what the moaning minority think I was referring to Billy McKinlay, or another applicant we may not know about who has never managed a club. Indeed, the process is about looking for the best man, i just hope that doesn't mean the cheapest as well. |
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Aug 28, 2014 9:30:43 GMT 1
I think it's pretty clear there are no outstanding candidates. The shortlist is a sea of mediocrity with one or two above average candidates. It's a bang average "beauty parade"!
There are also a lot of candidates who I just don't think will be a "fit" with the club ethos, e.g Billy Davies so rule those candidates out IMO
As for Lillis, short term he will do a good job but I wouldn't fancy his chances of keeping the momentum going long term. Wouldn't mind him continuing for a month longer rather than appointing someone ordinary for the sake of it
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Aug 28, 2014 9:34:54 GMT 1
Who has never managed before ? Ps isn't this process about trying to identify the best man for the job ? Who cares what the moaning minority think I was referring to Billy McKinlay, or another applicant we may not know about who has never managed a club. Indeed, the process is about looking for the best man, i just hope that doesn't mean the cheapest as well. Isn't Mckinlay currently managing at Tannadice ? |
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Post by Essex Terrier on Aug 28, 2014 9:38:56 GMT 1
Whoever gets the job, like god-knows-how-many of his predecessors, his will only be a temporary appointment. 2-3 years max, then ta-ta. Inevitable |
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Post by yorkshiretripod on Aug 28, 2014 9:58:44 GMT 1
I was referring to Billy McKinlay, or another applicant we may not know about who has never managed a club. Indeed, the process is about looking for the best man, i just hope that doesn't mean the cheapest as well. Isn't Mckinlay currently managing at Tannadice ? Norn Iron number 2, are you thinking of McNamara, another one linked? |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Aug 28, 2014 10:20:40 GMT 1
Isn't Mckinlay currently managing at Tannadice ? Norn Iron number 2, are you thinking of McNamara, another one linked? Haha probably.. hard keeping up with em all |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2014 10:35:33 GMT 1
I still believe that if there is no stand out candidate even though it was rumoured the likes of Chris Hughton applied then we should go with a young manager who will bring some different ideas into the club.
Nicky Butt impressed last time and made the final shortlist and has been interviewed again, if he could bring in his own staff including an experienced number 2 then he would be great.
I think the sticking issues is that the new gaffer has to work with Thompson and Eyre... I think some may not want to.
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Post by runner76 on Aug 28, 2014 10:36:57 GMT 1
Glad Lennon in the frame. Still the man I want for the job, followed by Powell
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Aug 28, 2014 10:48:32 GMT 1
I still believe that if there is no stand out candidate even though it was rumoured the likes of Chris Hughton applied then we should go with a young manager who will bring some different ideas into the club. Nicky Butt impressed last time and made the final shortlist and has been interviewed again, if he could bring in his own staff including an experienced number 2 then he would be great. I think the sticking issues is that the new gaffer has to work with Thompson and Eyre... I think some may not want to. Butt - Lillis partnership. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2014 10:57:58 GMT 1
In today's Yorkshire Post, Lillis states, "They (the Town board) go get a new manager or they have a word with myself and see where I am with it." The words "hat" and "ring" come to mind. Surely this is a serious development, whatever your point of view about Lillis' value to the club? As i said from the start ignore what lillis says in public he wants the job no doubt about it also Dean has said it will come from the outside. We will have to see but Dean has to do what he thinks his right for the club . Ilike lillis but being caretaker and yes mark says forget that tag im manager but for me dean will backtrack if he thinks its the right way to go with mark. fOR ME IT ISNT WE NEED TO RECRUIT FROM OUTSIDE . The polls generally favour lennon me two but whoever it is needs full support. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2014 10:58:54 GMT 1
I wonder if we've interviewed the burton manager Gary Rowett. He has a growing reputation in the game.
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Post by Sio on Aug 28, 2014 11:01:44 GMT 1
In today's Yorkshire Post, Lillis states, "They (the Town board) go get a new manager or they have a word with myself and see where I am with it." The words "hat" and "ring" come to mind. Surely this is a serious development, whatever your point of view about Lillis' value to the club? As i said from the start ignore what lillis says in public he wants the job no doubt about it also Dean has said it will come from the outside. We will have to see but Dean has to do what he thinks his right for the club . Ilike lillis but being caretaker and yes mark says forget that tag im manager but for me dean will backtrack if he thinks its the right way to go with mark. fOR ME IT ISNT WE NEED TO RECRUIT FROM OUTSIDE . The polls generally favour lennon me two but whoever it is needs full support. Don't think you can fairly make this claim to be honest. Lillis clearly loves working with the academy and has a job effectively for life as far as I can tell! He's not stupid and will know that he wont be in the management job forever, if he gets it, and what are the chances of him becoming a successful recurring manager after leaving Town? He'd have to have a great spell with us for that to happen IMO- he's not exactly some young, upcoming manager. Alternatively he could stay in the job he enjoys at the club he loves without any major likelihood of losing it. I'd suggest he probably wouldn't want the job. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2014 11:04:10 GMT 1
I wonder if we've interviewed the burton manager Gary Rowett. He has a growing reputation in the game. they have to ask permission from his club as with pressley they havnt done either as far as im aware . |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Aug 28, 2014 11:04:42 GMT 1
I wonder if we've interviewed the burton manager Gary Rowett. He has a growing reputation in the game. I must admit last season to start taking notice of this guy.. Done a good job and handles himself well. And I think Burton are doing ok this season ? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2014 11:08:32 GMT 1
As i said from the start ignore what lillis says in public he wants the job no doubt about it also Dean has said it will come from the outside. We will have to see but Dean has to do what he thinks his right for the club . Ilike lillis but being caretaker and yes mark says forget that tag im manager but for me dean will backtrack if he thinks its the right way to go with mark. fOR ME IT ISNT WE NEED TO RECRUIT FROM OUTSIDE . The polls generally favour lennon me two but whoever it is needs full support. Don't think you can fairly make this claim to be honest. Lillis clearly loves working with the academy and has a job effectively for life as far as I can tell! He's not stupid and will know that he wont be in the management job forever, if he gets it, and what are the chances of him becoming a successful recurring manager after leaving Town? He'd have to have a great spell with us for that to happen IMO- he's not exactly some young, upcoming manager. Alternatively he could stay in the job he enjoys at the club he loves without any major likelihood of losing it. I'd suggest he probably wouldn't want the job. you make a fair point regarding his role in the academy but i honestly have no doubts if dean offered it him he would take it. for me no but thats not my or anyone else on here's decision but its time it was sorted. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2014 13:35:37 GMT 1
I wonder if we've interviewed the burton manager Gary Rowett. He has a growing reputation in the game. I must admit last season to start taking notice of this guy.. Done a good job and handles himself well. And I think Burton are doing ok this season ? They've been consistent in play offs 2 years running on limited budget and had to sell best players. They beat QPR in league cup on tues having knocked out Wigan in round one. They have won 3 and drawn one in league so far. I've heard good thing about him and as you say he comes across well. Unproven at this level but worth interviewing Id say. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2014 13:36:12 GMT 1
I wonder if we've interviewed the burton manager Gary Rowett. He has a growing reputation in the game. they have to ask permission from his club as with pressley they havnt done either as far as im aware . Good point. |
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Post by bro600 on Aug 28, 2014 15:38:17 GMT 1
Lillis hasn't applied and doesn't want it ..When he say's "They go get a new manager or they have a word with myself and see where I am with it."
He's on about them asking him if he would carry on in the caretaker role.
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