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Post by Larry David on Aug 29, 2014 7:53:21 GMT 1
m.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/football/huddersfield/town-s-search-grounded-in-reality-and-carried-out-in-house-1-6811485So basically....get ready to be a little disappointed! As much as Powell would be ok, he has hardly been there and done it has he...One of Deans major requirements. This approach of a manager fitting in with our system is risky business if you ask me. Yes it could work and we could find a gem but in my opinion it is more likely to horribly fail and result in us going back to league 1. it's akin to a an market trader who sells fish suddenly being told by the supplier he will dictate the fish mr market trader has to sell. Result...confusion and shit fish and closure of fish stall as the customers don't want it any more. We tried this approach with robins and it failed. Should we try it again, I don't think so. This appointment is huge for the future direction of the club so don't blame the club for taking time but reading that I would not be surprised if we appointed a foreign coach no one has heard of. We can all now forget the likes of lennon, Clarke, Houghton etc Interesting times ahead.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2014 7:59:47 GMT 1
How has he not been there and done it, but the likes of Lennon have? Mowbray has one promotion and had the advantage of managing Weat Brom. Powell is more of a "been there and done it" than anyone, in my opinion.
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Post by Porrohman on Aug 29, 2014 9:03:21 GMT 1
TBH I'm extremely bored with our never ending search for a new boss now. But the thought of a Powell or Mowbray in charge isn't one that's going to get me fired up to want to go on a saturday afternoon
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2014 9:05:21 GMT 1
A Chris Powell appt. would be fine by me.
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Post by htfcterry on Aug 29, 2014 9:31:46 GMT 1
Personally think we should just not have a manager and keep Lillis. The last 4 games I have seen the best football huddersfield town have played in a long time, and that can only be down to one man.
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Post by deo1 on Aug 29, 2014 9:41:02 GMT 1
I don't think the club has any idea who they want. Think Lillis will be in charge for a few more weeks until the right candidate can be found. Personally I think the clubs first choice was Warnock but the lure of the Premiership was too strong a pull for him and after town sounded out his agent it was quite obvious that he had set his mind on landing the Palaxe job.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2014 9:46:52 GMT 1
m.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/football/huddersfield/town-s-search-grounded-in-reality-and-carried-out-in-house-1-6811485So basically....get ready to be a little disappointed! As much as Powell would be ok, he has hardly been there and done it has he...One of Deans major requirements. This approach of a manager fitting in with our system is risky business if you ask me. Yes it could work and we could find a gem but in my opinion it is more likely to horribly fail and result in us going back to league 1. it's akin to a an market trader who sells fish suddenly being told by the supplier he will dictate the fish mr market trader has to sell. Result...confusion and shit fish and closure of fish stall as the customers don't want it any more. We tried this approach with robins and it failed. Should we try it again, I don't think so. This appointment is huge for the future direction of the club so don't blame the club for taking time but reading that I would not be surprised if we appointed a foreign coach no one has heard of. We can all now forget the likes of lennon, Clarke, Houghton etc Interesting times ahead. Agood read in the yp but dont rule out lennon things change but overall the article is well balanced
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2014 9:48:50 GMT 1
I don't think the club has any idea who they want. Think Lillis will be in charge for a few more weeks until the right candidate can be found. Personally I think the clubs first choice was Warnock but the lure of the Premiership was too strong a pull for him and after town sounded out his agent it was quite obvious that he had set his mind on landing the Palaxe job. think it will all be done and dusted in the next seven days!
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Post by deo1 on Aug 29, 2014 9:53:43 GMT 1
I don't think the club has any idea who they want. Think Lillis will be in charge for a few more weeks until the right candidate can be found. Personally I think the clubs first choice was Warnock but the lure of the Premiership was too strong a pull for him and after town sounded out his agent it was quite obvious that he had set his mind on landing the Palaxe job. think it will all be done and dusted in the next seven days! I'm not so sure, what with the international break coming up soon and with the transfer window shutting in a few days time there's not a lot a new manager can do to change the squad. Lillis is doing ok too which at the moment is fine. If we start to dip again like we did under Robins then I could see there being more urgency in finding a replacement but at the moment that's not needed.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2014 9:55:44 GMT 1
Chris Powell, Stephen Pressley, Billy McKinlay, Karl Robinson - all fitting Dean's stringent requirement of being "Someone who is tried and tested" at this level...
Powell or Lillis for me.
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Post by dalesterrier on Aug 29, 2014 9:55:37 GMT 1
I don't think the club has any idea who they want. Think Lillis will be in charge for a few more weeks until the right candidate can be found. Personally I think the clubs first choice was Warnock but the lure of the Premiership was too strong a pull for him and after town sounded out his agent it was quite obvious that he had set his mind on landing the Palaxe job. think it will all be done and dusted in the next seven days! Hopefully the beginning of next week to give him a full two weeks with the squad
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Post by davethesprout on Aug 29, 2014 9:56:56 GMT 1
A Chris Powell appt. would be fine by me. lillis as his assistant ! that would suit me fine I think lillis deserves a pay rise anyway he should get the managers pay for the games he has been in charge anyway!! dont think anybody want mowbray! ask mbo fans what they think of him! so powell for manager with lillis as his assistant!!!
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Post by barnsleydaz on Aug 29, 2014 9:57:04 GMT 1
I have a feeling we may already have our man.
Time will tell.
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Post by upthetown on Aug 29, 2014 9:58:50 GMT 1
A Chris Powell appt. would be fine by me. lillis as his assistant ! that would suit me fine I think lillis deserves a pay rise anyway he should get the managers pay for the games he has been in charge anyway!! dont think anybody want mowbray! ask mbo fans what they think of him! so powell for manager with lillis as his assistant!!! Lillis has enough on managing the academy, and he's happy there.
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Post by PellonTerrier on Aug 29, 2014 9:58:48 GMT 1
Chris Powell, Stephen Pressley, Billy McKinlay, Karl Robinson - all fitting Dean's stringent requirement of being "Someone who is tried and tested" at this level... Powell or Lillis for me. Think you will find he said been and done it but went to great pains to say that didn't necessarily mean in the championship
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Post by terrierng on Aug 29, 2014 9:58:59 GMT 1
so basically we are to be disappointed cos of a twitter poll then? suicide
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2014 10:00:07 GMT 1
Chris Powell, Stephen Pressley, Billy McKinlay, Karl Robinson - all fitting Dean's stringent requirement of being "Someone who is tried and tested" at this level... Powell or Lillis for me. Think you will find he said been and done it but went to great pains to say that didn't necessarily mean in the championship The bit in quote marks is copied verbatim from his interview. But say he doesn't 'necessarily' mean Championship. Who out of them has been and done it? Apart from Powell?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2014 10:00:17 GMT 1
With that list, might as well plump for Lillis. At least he's Town through and through.
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Post by townatheart on Aug 29, 2014 10:02:40 GMT 1
m.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/football/huddersfield/town-s-search-grounded-in-reality-and-carried-out-in-house-1-6811485So basically....get ready to be a little disappointed! As much as Powell would be ok, he has hardly been there and done it has he...One of Deans major requirements. This approach of a manager fitting in with our system is risky business if you ask me. Yes it could work and we could find a gem but in my opinion it is more likely to horribly fail and result in us going back to league 1. it's akin to a an market trader who sells fish suddenly being told by the supplier he will dictate the fish mr market trader has to sell. Result...confusion and shit fish and closure of fish stall as the customers don't want it any more. We tried this approach with robins and it failed. Should we try it again, I don't think so. This appointment is huge for the future direction of the club so don't blame the club for taking time but reading that I would not be surprised if we appointed a foreign coach no one has heard of. We can all now forget the likes of lennon, Clarke, Houghton etc Interesting times ahead. Agood read in the yp but dont rule out lennon things change but overall the article is well balanced still quite torn between lennon and powell myself biggest nightmare picture now is lennon going to you know who down the road
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Post by dugnet on Aug 29, 2014 10:16:00 GMT 1
You know what - we need to see what happens and see what results we end up getting. We could get someone we are all happy with but get lousy results alternatively we could get someone who doesn't excite who could deliver a team we can believe in. Everything positive that has been delivered in the DH will ultimately be judged by performances of the 1st team.
At the end of the day if we get a team that has character, effort, pride and makes the most of their abilities I think we will all be content. If we get a team who perform like they did for a number of occasions under Mark Robins fans will, not unreasonably, express their disappointment and probably vote with their feet.
If Brian Clough was still with us,available and we got him as manager there is no guarantee he would be successful (although you'd be hopeful that he would be very good). Alternatively we could get a complete unknown and expectations would be low and people may be disappointed, and accuse the club of a lack of ambition, yet they may turn out to be the next Mick Buxton.
C'est la vie I suppose....
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Post by Sio on Aug 29, 2014 10:22:06 GMT 1
m.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/football/huddersfield/town-s-search-grounded-in-reality-and-carried-out-in-house-1-6811485So basically....get ready to be a little disappointed! As much as Powell would be ok, he has hardly been there and done it has he...One of Deans major requirements. This approach of a manager fitting in with our system is risky business if you ask me. Yes it could work and we could find a gem but in my opinion it is more likely to horribly fail and result in us going back to league 1. it's akin to a an market trader who sells fish suddenly being told by the supplier he will dictate the fish mr market trader has to sell. Result...confusion and shit fish and closure of fish stall as the customers don't want it any more. We tried this approach with robins and it failed. Should we try it again, I don't think so. This appointment is huge for the future direction of the club so don't blame the club for taking time but reading that I would not be surprised if we appointed a foreign coach no one has heard of. We can all now forget the likes of lennon, Clarke, Houghton etcInteresting times ahead. Because of a YP article? Truth is, nobody really knows who it's going to be. We do have a good indication of who the club have met, and some of the names you've ruled out are among that list. Let's just let the club deal with it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2014 10:30:20 GMT 1
Give it Powell
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Post by runner76 on Aug 29, 2014 10:37:45 GMT 1
One thing for sure, that we need to all truly get behind, is that this decision will be made with the best interests of Huddersfield Town, on the eyes of the most important person here - Hoyle. Like it or not, we need to really, really get behind this new lad, and give him major support - play our part as fans.
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Post by In sooth- - on Aug 29, 2014 10:39:58 GMT 1
I find it hard to believe that a new manager would come here without wanting to bring along one or more assistant(s) which would presumably mean a few P45s handed out to some coaches who are doing a good job now. If the "new" man moves from the south,for example, would they fancy moving here.
We have had too many changes at Leeds Road.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2014 10:43:16 GMT 1
If it's going to be another bland appointment like Ritchie, Grayson or Robins, which I see Powell as being, I'd rather stick with Lillis thanks.
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Post by terrierng on Aug 29, 2014 10:48:20 GMT 1
I find it hard to believe that a new manager would come here without wanting to bring along one or more assistant(s) which would presumably mean a few P45s handed out to some coaches who are doing a good job now. If the "new" man moves from the south,for example, would they fancy moving here. We have had too many changes at Leeds Road. always found the new manager wanting his own men daft to be honest,jobs for his mates,if like us we have decent coaches in place why change it for a new guy to bring his pals in,probably pals he has failed with elsewhere.ok bring in your own team if all were sacked but not if its not needed.
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Post by 007Berlin on Aug 29, 2014 10:51:59 GMT 1
Let's be honest, does a manager really fucking matter!? We've had probably 15 - 20 while I've been a fan. Barring Jacko can you honestly say 1 man inspired a run of form that changed the course of our season drastically? They are all much of a muchness, merry go round men.
Let's make them follow our rules. Rather than us allowing them to have 11 coaches of their choice, a new squad, over night stays in hotel x rather than hotel y, etc etc. Makes it cheaper to sack the bastards when it inevitably goes tits an all.
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Post by Beech's Nuts on Aug 29, 2014 11:04:41 GMT 1
You know what - we need to see what happens and see what results we end up getting. We could get someone we are all happy with but get lousy results alternatively we could get someone who doesn't excite who could deliver a team we can believe in. Everything positive that has been delivered in the DH will ultimately be judged by performances of the 1st team. At the end of the day if we get a team that has character, effort, pride and makes the most of their abilities I think we will all be content. If we get a team who perform like they did for a number of occasions under Mark Robins fans will, not unreasonably, express their disappointment and probably vote with their feet. If Brian Clough was still with us,available and we got him as manager there is no guarantee he would be successful (although you'd be hopeful that he would be very good). Alternatively we could get a complete unknown and expectations would be low and people may be disappointed, and accuse the club of a lack of ambition, yet they may turn out to be the next Mick Buxton. C'est la vie I suppose.... Clough with Peter Taylor was excellent but without him he was nowhere near as good. This is the conundrum of our manager hunt. The right man for the job may need to bring his own assistant in order to bolster his own weaknesses. Is Mr Hoyle willing to accept that?
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Aug 29, 2014 11:15:29 GMT 1
Whilst he wouldn't be my first choice I'd be happy with Powell. He got Charlton promoted from League one and finished 9th in the Championship the season after in what was his first managerial appointment.
As somebody else said, if Lillis was going to make it as a manager, at the age of 55 he'd have done it by now. He's great at what he does in the short term but can he he keep it going? Its a gamble either way but I'd prefer Powell to Lillis.
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Post by dugnet on Aug 29, 2014 11:29:05 GMT 1
Clough with Peter Taylor was excellent but without him he was nowhere near as good.
This is the conundrum of our manager hunt. The right man for the job may need to bring his own assistant in order to bolster his own weaknesses. Is Mr Hoyle willing to accept that?
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It's a fair point on both counts.
From the outside it would appear that DH isn't keen to break his current model of how the football side is run - which in fairness works really well from academy to development level - but at 1st team level something hasn't worked. Now is that the model/approach or the personnel within the model or a combination of both. It strikes me that they want a football man who will work within the model. British football is very rigid and conservative, finding someone who will come in as manager, work with the current coaches and the senior management team may not be that easy.
When you think about it in any other organisation a new manager can be introduced and the model stays the same, but it is also fair to note other organisations change as they develop. It could be that we are re-evaluating more than just the manager at 1st team level?
As I posted before no fan coming through the turnstiles really gives a hoot about the "how" they care about the "what" - they see in terms of effort/passion/team spirit, entertaining (winning) football and results.
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