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Post by nicovaesen on Sept 2, 2014 9:07:06 GMT 1
Letting Clarke go for nowt and spending money on a player the same age with the same style of play. I don't really know too much of mark Hudson but I was a peter Clarke fan. I know he divided town fans opinion. Reading what's been said about aquiring hudsons services it's sounds very positive although there are a few posts saying he's slow and takes time to bed in. Just want to know town fans general opinion about the two? I know Hudson has great experience at this level and at premier league too. If he shows 10% of PC's passion with the ability he's shown at Cardiff I'll be one happy terrier UTT
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Post by nicovaesen on Sept 2, 2014 9:08:10 GMT 1
This isn't a negative post
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 2, 2014 9:08:46 GMT 1
I'd have taken Hudson from Upstairs Downstairs over Clarke tbh
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Post by Fullisheight on Sept 2, 2014 9:12:41 GMT 1
Quality-wise I think they're leagues apart (literally). Very pleased with this signing*. Quality and leadership.
*I reserve the right to back track on this if he turns out like Lucketti v.2
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Post by Mastercracker on Sept 2, 2014 9:18:01 GMT 1
One has spent his Career in L1 with a stint in the Championship. The other has spent his Career in the Championship with a stint in the Premier League.
There is no comparison between the 2.
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Post by PellonTerrier on Sept 2, 2014 9:18:29 GMT 1
I'm a massive PC fan but he was found out at this level whereas Hudson has excelled at it
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Sept 2, 2014 9:20:59 GMT 1
Time will tell but it appears we've swapped up a league with these two. Hudson captained a team that won the Championship. Also sounds like he is the organiser that clarke never really was.
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Post by bro600 on Sept 2, 2014 9:23:27 GMT 1
I don't think Peter Clarke could have lived with having to be the 3rd centre-half and getting dropped more often. The guy just wants to play every time he can and with being the club captain and such a servant he wouldn't have enjoyed another year here. It's to his credit that he didn't feel let down when we let him go but i think he realized.. Hudson is fresh to the club, he's got the same mentality as Clarke and will want to finish his career off on a high so he should produce better displays than Clarke would.
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Post by andy112 on Sept 2, 2014 9:24:28 GMT 1
I know Hudson has great experience at this level and at premier league too. Think this tells you everything you need to know. Just because players have similar attributes, doesn't make them at a similar level otherwise we may as well ask Barca if they fancy doing a swap deal with Messi for Holmes. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2014 9:27:24 GMT 1
I can see him having the same impact as Horne did when we signed him.
Experienced, steady and will massively improve our defence.
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Post by runner76 on Sept 2, 2014 9:30:47 GMT 1
seems like a much better player and exactly what we needed. Happy with this signing.....!!!!
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Post by Essex Terrier on Sept 2, 2014 9:43:06 GMT 1
This isn't a negative post No, it's not - I certainly share your view, and am also looking forward to seeing how Hudson performs. There are clearly Clarke parallels at this stage, but I am hoping that Hudson's ability to read the game is as good as everyone says, which will put him ahead of Clarkey? |
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man on Sept 2, 2014 10:42:04 GMT 1
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Post by Sio on Sept 2, 2014 10:50:24 GMT 1
This isn't a negative post No, it's not - I certainly share your view, and am also looking forward to seeing how Hudson performs. There are clearly Clarke parallels at this stage, but I am hoping that Hudson's ability to read the game is as good as everyone says, which will put him ahead of Clarkey? But as someone else says above, just because they share attributes doesn't make them the same standard of player..? There'll be CB's in top Prem clubs who are slower than Hudson, and maybe Clarke, but that doesn't make them the same level as Clarke. So much more to consider than just being similar pace. |
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man on Sept 2, 2014 10:52:36 GMT 1
No, it's not - I certainly share your view, and am also looking forward to seeing how Hudson performs. There are clearly Clarke parallels at this stage, but I am hoping that Hudson's ability to read the game is as good as everyone says, which will put him ahead of Clarkey? But as someone else says above, just because they share attributes doesn't make them the same standard of player..? There'll be CB's in top Prem clubs who are slower than Hudson, and maybe Clarke, but that doesn't make them the same level as Clarke. So much more to consider than just being similar pace. He could be the defensive equivalent of Teddy Sheringham - if he thinks more quickly than others, reads the game well and understands football a lack of real pace does not have to hamper him. |
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Post by deadleg on Sept 2, 2014 10:55:44 GMT 1
One has spent his Career in L1 with a stint in the Championship. The other has spent his Career in the Championship with a stint in the Premier League. There is no comparison between the 2. This is how I was going to put it really, it's something like the equivalent of PC signing for a lower-table League 1 side. We'd all be saying how well they'd done to get him. The only concern for me is his age and the fact that he's been quite injury-prone in the past couple of years. A two year contract seems a risk but I imagine we had to offer that for him to entertain the notion of upping sticks. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2014 11:00:13 GMT 1
Letting Clarke go for nowt and spending money on a player the same age with the same style of play. I don't really know too much of mark Hudson but I was a peter Clarke fan. I know he divided town fans opinion. Reading what's been said about aquiring hudsons services it's sounds very positive although there are a few posts saying he's slow and takes time to bed in. Just want to know town fans general opinion about the two? I know Hudson has great experience at this level and at premier league too. If he shows 10% of PC's passion with the ability he's shown at Cardiff I'll be one happy terrier UTT I was a Clarke fan too but you only need to look at Hudson's career history and pedigree to see this is a good move. |
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Post by ritchie on Sept 2, 2014 11:28:06 GMT 1
Hudson might be no quicker than clarke but he's much better positionally. Clarke was neither quick nor great positionally.
hudson is also much better with the ball
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Post by Torquayterrier on Sept 2, 2014 11:52:22 GMT 1
Being captain at 3 previous clubs shows leadership qualities which we've been lacking a bit at the back since Clarke left. Obviously would have been nice to have someone a bit younger and quicker but there are only so many players available. Happy to let him show us what he can do in our back 4, could be an excellent signing if he stays fit. More convincing strength in depth when we have Hudson, Lynch and Gerrard all available.
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Post by Is It Eidur Gudjohnsen on Sept 2, 2014 12:00:23 GMT 1
I really liked PC but this is trading up and Im surprised people are being negative about it. CB is one of those positions that older wiser heads are needed and can provide a solid base to go forward from.
Having a better CB and maybe a vocal one might also help Smithies be a bit more decisive in the box!
I do wonder how long Peltier will keep the armband for as Coady and now Hudson seem much more natural leaders to me.
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Post by Tanzanian Terrier on Sept 2, 2014 12:05:12 GMT 1
One has spent his Career in L1 with a stint in the Championship. The other has spent his Career in the Championship with a stint in the Premier League. There is no comparison between the 2. A valid non negative assessment |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Sept 2, 2014 12:12:11 GMT 1
Coady made 4 clearances against Charlton that showed what a thinking footballer is capable of. No panic, no running away, no going in with the forward and playing everyone in the ground onside. He reads the game and is pro active rather than a panicky reactive player. Hudson is experienced and hopefully is a reader of the game rather than just a hard working, honest centre half. Given his age he needs to read the game, its going to be tough chasing kids at 32.
On seeing him play in the flesh once or twice and on tv he looks to be what we need. Whoever gets the big job still has a lot of work to do on our ball watching but with gerrard and Hudson together(eventually) we might get the voices required on the pitch in the right place.
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Post by Hank Hill on Sept 2, 2014 12:13:51 GMT 1
Glad we got Hudson but you can'y deny how good Clarke was when we first got him. Never seen so much commitment from a player as he gave. True town legend  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2014 12:37:59 GMT 1
One has spent his Career in L1 with a stint in the Championship. The other has spent his Career in the Championship with a stint in the Premier League. There is no comparison between the 2. You just compared the 2. |
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Post by Mastercracker on Sept 2, 2014 12:39:22 GMT 1
One has spent his Career in L1 with a stint in the Championship. The other has spent his Career in the Championship with a stint in the Premier League. There is no comparison between the 2. You just compared the 2. Pipe down Frodo. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Sept 2, 2014 12:45:21 GMT 1
I'm a massive PC fan but he was found out at this level whereas Hudson has excelled at it I don't think he was found out at this level at all. I thought he would be but was pleasantly surprised at how he coped with the better standard. Hudson should be a level above what Clarke could do though. |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Sept 2, 2014 12:54:53 GMT 1
if we had someone at the club who could have got hold of Clarke and sorted him out, he may still be here. He defended his own way and for every last ditch challenge he won, he gave away a goal or a dangerous free kick or a penalty. If you continually play the opposition onside on your own something is wrong and blaming everyone else wont wash. I guess if you cant read the game at centre back your options are limited to just dropping in and trying to get in the way. I personally didn't think he was as slow as he clearly thought he was?
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Post by nicovaesen on Sept 2, 2014 13:21:29 GMT 1
This isn't a negative post No, it's not - I certainly share your view, and am also looking forward to seeing how Hudson performs. There are clearly Clarke parallels at this stage, but I am hoping that Hudson's ability to read the game is as good as everyone says, which will put him ahead of Clarkey? Cheers for the feedback |
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Post by Essex Terrier on Sept 2, 2014 14:23:55 GMT 1
No, it's not - I certainly share your view, and am also looking forward to seeing how Hudson performs. There are clearly Clarke parallels at this stage, but I am hoping that Hudson's ability to read the game is as good as everyone says, which will put him ahead of Clarkey? Cheers for the feedback No probs! They should call this...I dunno..... a "message board" or something? |
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Post by PellonTerrier on Sept 2, 2014 17:15:45 GMT 1
I'm a massive PC fan but he was found out at this level whereas Hudson has excelled at it I don't think he was found out at this level at all. I thought he would be but was pleasantly surprised at how he coped with the better standard. Hudson should be a level above what Clarke could do though. Like I say massive fan but his lack of pace and positional sense coupled with him being the defensive leader meant we defended too deep regularly when he was in the team especially since promotion, Hudson should be able to read the game better so his pace won't be as big an issue |
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