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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2014 17:59:39 GMT 1
Called some guy a kolpack.
Doesn't sound to be worth a ban and missing the champagne moment.
May be just me...
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Post by mezz60 on Sept 18, 2014 18:18:23 GMT 1
If he plays for Lancashire he will have been called a lot worse
Btw which country do kolpackians come from?
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Post by rothwellterrier on Sept 18, 2014 18:21:23 GMT 1
Btw which country do kolpackians come from? I'm not sure but I think their flag is a flag of convenience  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2014 18:22:54 GMT 1
The 'Kolpak' ruling - handed down in 2003 - declared that citizens of certain countries which have agreements with the European Union have the same right to freedom of work and movement within the EU as EU citizens. Therefore, a 'Kolpak' cricketer, like an EU passport-holder, can play in England and not be classed as an 'overseas' player - even if he is not qualified to play for England internationally.
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Post by detox on Sept 18, 2014 18:44:28 GMT 1
the ECB have got their false teeth into Gayley...didn't even allow him to join the team for the trophy presentation..and the season was over then anyway...not satisifed with banning him for 2 games and now they want to 'do' him for kolpakitis ...it's pathetic
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Sept 18, 2014 18:51:42 GMT 1
Poor lad, whateva next in this silly world.
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Post by mezz60 on Sept 18, 2014 18:54:45 GMT 1
SO
If a kolpack is neither a country or a planet
Or a race or a religion on what grounds can this possibly be deemed racist
The worlds gone mad suicide
It still makes me smile when Australian cricket commentators refer to Pakistani cricket players as pakis
Apparantly they do it because everyone calls their team aussies
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2014 19:03:12 GMT 1
SO If a kolpack is neither a country or a planet Or a race or a religion on what grounds can this possibly be deemed racist The worlds gone mad suicide IF Ashwell Prince was white would this be an issue? Calling somebody 'kolpack' is not racist. |
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Post by togterrier on Sept 18, 2014 19:03:55 GMT 1
It is without doubt the most ridiculous charge of 'racism' the world has ever known, never mind cricket.
I hope Yorkshire/Galey can afford a proper counsel as the ECB are certain to throw their superior financial power at this.
Should we set up a 'fighting fund' as much as a show of allegiance to Galey as anything else?
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Post by mezz60 on Sept 18, 2014 19:09:19 GMT 1
It is without doubt the most ridiculous charge of 'racism' the world has ever known, never mind cricket. I hope Yorkshire/Galey can afford a proper counsel as the ECB are certain to throw their superior financial power at this. Should we set up a 'fighting fund' as much as a show of allegiance to Galey as anything else? Maybe he will get the association of black lawyers to defend him ,as it won't be long before they make a misguided comment |
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Post by bristolterrier on Sept 18, 2014 19:09:26 GMT 1
SO If a kolpack is neither a country or a planet Or a race or a religion on what grounds can this possibly be deemed racist The worlds gone mad suicide It still makes me smile when Australian cricket commentators refer to Pakistani cricket players as pakis
Apparantly they do it because everyone calls their team aussiesThis has often baffled me mezz. Living in Bristol I have been called "Yorkie" many times and If I am honest I like it. |
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 18, 2014 19:27:33 GMT 1
Kolpak was the name of the bloke who went to court to be allowed to play handball in the EU so how can those chinless public school prices at the ECB decide it's racist. Is the FA going to declare that Bosman is a racist word !!!
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Post by upthetown on Sept 18, 2014 19:53:47 GMT 1
I agree Kolpak isn't a racist term, it's a legal term. But I believe the bit the ECB are claiming may be racist was more the "go back to your own &££&£&£ country" part.
In my opinion that's not racist either, it's no different to Prince telling Gale to £&£& off back to cover point or whatever he said. Problem is, in this day and age, you get people treading on egg shells and being overly PC to avoid being accused of racism.
At the time I wondered why YCCC didn't tell the ECB to stick the trophy celebration if they were excluding Gale. I've since read YCCC were threatened with a 20 point deduction if they'd included Gale, absolute disgrace.
It would have been nice for the ECB to have openly supported Moeen Ali after the stick he got from the Indian fans too.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Sept 18, 2014 20:01:36 GMT 1
the police here have for 25 years been 'doctoring' the racial incidents registers and altering or removing large numbers of complaints made by non minorities. It is to keep race/religious hate as an issue that is very firmly the fault of the majority.
a number of issues recently have blown all this out of the water and the continuing tide of people from all over the world has now led to the 'majority' being nowhere even close to the top ten in race/religious hate league tables.
we are rank amateurs in this department.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Sept 18, 2014 20:06:39 GMT 1
therefore, relatively minor incidents such as gale etc are 'encouraged' to be blown out of all proportion whilst the hate we have 'imported' is swept under a bleeding great carpet, that will only hide it for so long.
gale exchanged words, insults were exchanged, nobody got hurt, nothing other than gales clear dislike of this particular rule was meant..the 'machine' that makes money and notoriety out of these incidents ground into life and off we go.
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Post by impact on Sept 18, 2014 20:26:52 GMT 1
As others have pointed out, wonderful double standards from the ECB. Backing Anderson TWICE this year for abusive language and then hammering down on Gale for exactly the same thing.
I hate all this racist stuff. People pick and choose what is right and wrong. If telling someone from another country to fuck off back to their own country is racist then is telling someone to fuck off back to cover point racist to people who field at cover point? Would the same had been said if Prince had told Gale to fuck off back to Dewsbury?
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Sept 18, 2014 22:04:56 GMT 1
As mentioned the biggest racist incident at a cricket ground this summer happened when the Indian fans abused Mooen Ali because he's of Paksitan origin ... why are the ECB not spending time looking into that incident. If that was English fans singling out a opposition Muslim player on the grounds of his religion I highly doubt it would be brushed under the carpet (nor should it be). So why the double standards here with India?
They really are making themselves look like a complete set of clowns
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Post by upthetown on Sept 18, 2014 22:14:10 GMT 1
As mentioned the biggest racist incident at a cricket ground this summer happened when the Indian fans abused Mooen Ali because he's of Paksitan origin ... why are the ECB not spending time looking into that incident. If that was English fans singling out a opposition Muslim player on the grounds of his religion I highly doubt it would be brushed under the carpet (nor should it be). So why the double standards here with India? They really are making themselves look like a complete set of clowns I honestly think they are scared to bring it up with the Indian fans, for fear of being dubbed racists themselves. 100% certain if the English supporters had done similar, for similar reasons, something would be done. Indian supporters state that Jadeja was also being booed, as if this evens it out. They fail to grasp that Jadeja was being booed for the incident with Anderson, so for his behaviour, not for his nationality, race, or religion. |
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Post by htfcfcfc on Sept 18, 2014 22:22:36 GMT 1
Is it OK for me to be called a Brit?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2014 22:32:31 GMT 1
The 'Kolpak' ruling - handed down in 2003 - declared that citizens of certain countries which have agreements with the European Union have the same right to freedom of work and movement within the EU as EU citizens. Therefore, a 'Kolpak' cricketer, like an EU passport-holder, can play in England and not be classed as an 'overseas' player - even if he is not qualified to play for England internationally. Never heard of this before...but it seems that the law was changed in 2003, one year before Slovakia joined the EU and he would have benefitted from free movement protection anyway. What an utte waste of time and money. |
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Post by stevvy on Sept 18, 2014 22:35:36 GMT 1
Are the ECB for real? There's absolutely nothing racist in calling someone a Kolpak, even less so because it's basically the official term used in cricket itself! As for saying "**** off back to your own country", if he said that, again, there's absolutely nothing racist in that. If he'd have turned round and said "**** off back to your own country you black paki ****" then they'd maybe have a point, but I can't say I've seen anything officially or unofficially that can be considered racist.
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 18, 2014 22:53:36 GMT 1
Giles Clarke is an absolute prick, he's supposed to be the one driving this charge, Fuck of back to Taunton you carrot crunching c*** (is that racist)
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Post by upthetown on Sept 18, 2014 23:05:02 GMT 1
Giles Clarke is an absolute prick, he's supposed to be the one driving this charge, Fuck of back to Taunton you carrot crunching c*** (is that racist) Sent from my GT-I9505 using proboards Vegist. |
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Post by basil on Sept 18, 2014 23:25:30 GMT 1
If Prince was white this would not have been an issue.
If Gale was black this would not have been an issue.
Gale is a victim of PC.
Black armbands for Yorkshire's last game I think. Something has died.
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Post by kosi on Sept 19, 2014 0:12:45 GMT 1
The game and the world has gone soft. Pathetic and disgusting that what should have been some of the best days of his career are been ruined by disgraceful double standards
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Post by Spunker on Sept 19, 2014 0:42:02 GMT 1
I'm offended that Prince got offended.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Sept 19, 2014 7:33:08 GMT 1
prince didn't get offended, he has been 'told' he was offended.. lots of people are quite surprised to be interviewed by these race relations organisations and the police because they had no idea they had been 'abused'...
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Post by Five Lamps on Sept 19, 2014 8:30:11 GMT 1
I'm disappointed by the language Gale (and Prince) allegedly used, and I'd accept if either of them were pulled up for sledging/abusive comments. I'd say that Galey's comments were offensive with racist undertones – the phrase "back to your own country" probably did it him. Kolpak isn't a country, but it does relate to Prince's descent, so it's understandable (yet not exactly reasonable) that he's been pulled up on that charge. I seriously doubt Gale meant it that way though, so I hope he gets off.
Whether it's fair or not that Galey wasn't allowed to lift the trophy though, that's harsh. I was half expecting a John Terry-esque return for the trophy presentation...
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Sept 19, 2014 9:16:19 GMT 1
I'm disappointed by the language Gale (and Prince) allegedly used, and I'd accept if either of them were pulled up for sledging/abusive comments. I'd say that Galey's comments were offensive with racist undertones – the phrase "back to your own country" probably did it him. Kolpak isn't a country, but it does relate to Prince's descent, so it's understandable (yet not exactly reasonable) that he's been pulled up on that charge. I seriously doubt Gale meant it that way though, so I hope he gets off. Whether it's fair or not that Galey wasn't allowed to lift the trophy though, that's harsh. I was half expecting a John Terry-esque return for the trophy presentation... I think it's clutching at straws saying that someone slurring employment status (because Kolpack is only reference to a employment ruling) is racist In fact I've found more discrimination at Yorkshire, the clubs rife. Seemingly the bigots call red headed Jonny Bairstow "Ron Weasley - www.cricket.com.au/news/2013/7/19/~/link.aspx?_id=9664227C85BE47C2A2E5513A9A487D33&_z=z - I'm outraged. The ECB need to stop this Obviously they can't pin this one on Gale because he's got a ginger beard - e2.365dm.com/14/05/295x160/Andrew-Gale_3141974.jpg - so they'll need to pick someone else in the team to single out for further suspension (but obviously not one of the Asian lads as per the ECB Mooen Ali getting abused by Indians precedent) |
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