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Post by deo1 on Sept 21, 2014 1:20:47 GMT 1
You'd have thought it was Leeds who were getting pulled from pillar to post and being cut through so easily with the way he was acting on the touch line as Powell looked on with folded arms stood in the middle of the technical area on his own. The players showed no passion or belief with hearts the size of peas (Bunn apart) and it looked like the management and coaching staff had the same idea. I'm not slagging Powell or any of his staff off but it would've been reassuring when looking at the touch line to see Powell and the rest of them encouraging and trying to gee the players on instead of watching on in amazement how poorly we were playing without trying to pass on any encouragement or changes. Hopefully this is a one off and he was just gathering his thoughts and plans on the way forward on a totally inept display by town!!!
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Post by WirralTerrier on Sept 21, 2014 1:43:15 GMT 1
Yea because all the great managers rant and rave on the touchline and  their arms around! Jesus. If he did do it he would get criticised for being too irrate and needing to calm down and be a calming influence on the players. He seemed to me to do a bit of both today, saw him quite a few times on the edge of his area especially in the second half. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2014 6:12:33 GMT 1
Redfearns a Spen Valley lad, ex Whitcliffe mount school,,, hes a born winner,
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Post by 007Berlin on Sept 21, 2014 7:16:02 GMT 1
He's from the famous dewsbury. Like diggers says, no comparison to some southerner who doesn't give a fuck about been here!
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Post by deo1 on Sept 21, 2014 7:41:17 GMT 1
Yea because all the great managers rant and rave on the touchline and their arms around! Jesus. If he did do it he would get criticised for being too irrate and needing to calm down and be a calming influence on the players. He seemed to me to do a bit of both today, saw him quite a few times on the edge of his area especially in the second half. Redfearn wasn't ranting and raving though was he? He seemed calm and collected barking his instructions and encouragement out most of the time and willing his players on. Powell certainly had a calming influence on the players yesterday, they were so laid back they didn't seem interested. I must have missed him going out to the edge of the technical area as every time I looked over he was just stood there on his own with his arms crossed, he could've been fuming though and just gathering his thoughts on how some of the players bottled a game they shouldn't need lifting for. If you want my opinion on great managers then the greatest managers I've seen 1st hand on the touch line waving their arms about and giving instructions were Alex Ferguson and Brian Clough, remind me what they won throughout their management careers? Also Warnock was a very animated manager on the touch line when at town and he's probably the best manager I can remember being in charge of town. You certainly didn't get the performance from his teams we witnessed yesterday from that shower. |
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Sept 21, 2014 7:57:07 GMT 1
Great player and football man.
Used to be based up at hade edge.
Readfearn. was saying after the game how mobile his side are and they have bags of pace, unlike us.
He's doing a great job but now will be replaced.
Makes me wonder what thoughts our shower are now having ?
Gutless.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Sept 21, 2014 8:13:16 GMT 1
If we had appointed Neil Redfearn this place would have gone into the biggest meltdown of all time.. Get a grip
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Sept 21, 2014 8:24:26 GMT 1
If we had appointed Neil Redfearn this place would have gone into the biggest meltdown of all time.. Get a grip Did I say appoint him ? Just commenting how he's good and sorted our mates out. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2014 8:28:42 GMT 1
If we had appointed Neil Redfearn this place would have gone into the biggest meltdown of all time.. Get a grip I remember WTD suggesting we try to prize him away from Leeds over the summer when they were in all sorts of turmoil. Would he have been a better option than Thompson to assist the manager? Quite possibly. |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Sept 21, 2014 8:50:24 GMT 1
If we had appointed Neil Redfearn this place would have gone into the biggest meltdown of all time.. Get a grip I remember WTD suggesting we try to prize him away from Leeds over the summer when they were in all sorts of turmoil. Would he have been a better option than Thompson to assist the manager? Quite possibly. Yeah maybe ... Then he would have taken over from robins, improved us, and then we would have got shut and appointed Powell . Is all hypothetical really .. Whilst Powell has hardly bowled me away so far he is only a couple of weeks in. Remember twenty years ago when mad spaniards like Jesus Gil used to change their manager once a season? Everyone thought they were nuts... Now with social media and the mad money floating about managers are under immediate pressure.. A couple of losses and " he doesn't shout" " he isn't from yorkshire " .. It won't be long before " them darkies can't manage" The bottom line at this football club is that we don't have enough good players. Whatever formation we play, however much the manager gesticulated from the sidelines, if your players aren't as good as the opposition you are in a spot of bother |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2014 8:58:41 GMT 1
I remember WTD suggesting we try to prize him away from Leeds over the summer when they were in all sorts of turmoil. Would he have been a better option than Thompson to assist the manager? Quite possibly. Yeah maybe ... Then he would have taken over from robins, improved us, and then we would have got shut and appointed Powell . Is all hypothetical really .. Whilst Powell has hardly bowled me away so far he is only a couple of weeks in. Remember twenty years ago when mad spaniards like Jesus Gil used to change their manager once a season? Everyone thought they were nuts... Now with social media and the mad money floating about managers are under immediate pressure.. A couple of losses and " he doesn't shout" " he isn't from yorkshire " .. It won't be long before " them darkies can't manage" The bottom line at this football club is that we don't have enough good players. Whatever formation we play, however much the manager gesticulated from the sidelines, if your players aren't as good as the opposition you are in a spot of bother It's way too early to start judging Powell. After the boro game he's had limited time to implement any serious change, and in fairness I thought we improved on the previous two performances in a number of areas. We we're let down by players who couldn't handle the pressure yesterday, against what admittedly looks a very strong Leeds team. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2014 8:59:01 GMT 1
Readfern's Yorkshire through and through and seems genuinely to care about his team's performance whether he's manager or just a supporter. Town's manager, like most of the players, is mainly here for the money. That said I'm sure his pride's hurting badly after yesterday debacle.
If Powell is to succeed then he, and not some desk jockey sat in Canalside should be the one to choose and bring in the needed players. I think that's important and can't imagine Cloughy or any half decent manager allowing some trouser shiner to choose who comes in and out of his team.
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Post by mightyterrier on Sept 21, 2014 8:59:26 GMT 1
3 games in and we get posts like this? Losing to Leeds is shite and it's not been the best start but let's all give the man a chance for goodness sake!
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Sept 21, 2014 9:04:11 GMT 1
He's Yorkshire through and through and seems genuinely to care about his team's performance whether he's manager or just a supporter. Town's manager, like most of the players, is mainly here for the money. That said I'm sure his pride's hurting badly after yesterday debacle. If Powell is to succeed then he, and not some desk jockey sat in Canalside should be the one to choose and bring in the needed players. I think that's important and can't imagine Cloughy or any decent manager allowing some trouser shiner to choose who comes in and out of his team. Desk jockey... Never heard that before... Googled it and This made me laugh  |
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Post by showaddywaddywaddy on Sept 21, 2014 9:11:58 GMT 1
Being a good manager in the long term has f all to do with whether you are from the same area as the team. Also to the comment regarding Warnock at Town, yes we did well in the end winning promotion, but his first 8 months were tough and if there had been such a thing as an internet messageboard in 94/95 he'd have been slaughtered by us. Have some perspective folks, remember it is early days and also that we are a relatively small fish in the Championship pond and staying up will be a good season.
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Post by deo1 on Sept 21, 2014 11:04:50 GMT 1
3 games in and we get posts like this? Losing to Leeds is shite and it's not been the best start but let's all give the man a chance for goodness sake! Sorry for the post, I went to Elland Road and noticed their manager being all animated and throwing out instructions and encouragement to a team who were winning all of the time, I look to the town manager and he's stood there motionless, deep in thought watching an inept display which lacked heart, character and pride. Sorry for noticing this and having an opinion. I'm not wanting rid of him or disappointed with his appointment but was quite puzzled as to why he and the other coaching staff weren't out in the technical area trying to get the team going. We could've lost to any team in the Championship today and because it was Leeds makes no difference at all, the display was a disgrace and the only person who can hold his head high and be happy with the shift he put in was Harry Bunn. |
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Post by mightyterrier on Sept 21, 2014 11:11:09 GMT 1
I saw this too, but it doesn't necessarily mean all managers should go about the job in the same way, it's a dig at Powell after 3 games - my point was its too early to judge and I couldn't care less how he goes about his business as long as some of the results and performances improve.
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Post by deo1 on Sept 21, 2014 11:42:54 GMT 1
I saw this too, but it doesn't necessarily mean all managers should go about the job in the same way, it's a dig at Powell after 3 games - my point was its too early to judge and I couldn't care less how he goes about his business as long as some of the results and performances improve. No it's not a dig but an observation that one manager was willing a team on with encouragement, advice and tactics and our manager and coaching staff are just stood their doing nothing. On the pitch we were clueless. When Ward came on it was like charge of the light brigade. Three players waiting in the area for the ball to come into the area with no one out on the wings to put it in. Butterfield taking a man on then panicking and playing a stupid ball either out of play or to one of their players. Scannel taking on about 3 players then delivering naff all, the Leeds players just walking through the middle of our team, Lynch trying to keep the ball in at all costs, giving a goal away then doing the same again, I could go on. If they didn't notice this then fine but if they did and just stood there I'm a bit disappointed for the fans that paid the money to witness such an inept display from our team. Powell could've been so peed off that he was gathering his thoughts ready to unleash a bollocking in the changing rooms and make wholesale changes to the team and how we set up in the future. Fingers crossed he's dipping into the loan market for a couple of players this week and shipping some of ours out!!! |
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Post by mightyterrier on Sept 21, 2014 11:47:33 GMT 1
I saw this too, but it doesn't necessarily mean all managers should go about the job in the same way, it's a dig at Powell after 3 games - my point was its too early to judge and I couldn't care less how he goes about his business as long as some of the results and performances improve. No it's not a dig but an observation that one manager was willing a team on with encouragement, advice and tactics and our manager and coaching staff are just stood their doing nothing. On the pitch we were clueless. When Ward came on it was like charge of the light brigade. Three players waiting in the area for the ball to come into the area with no one out on the wings to put it in. Butterfield taking a man on then panicking and playing a stupid ball either out of play or to one of their players. Scannel taking on about 3 players then delivering naff all, the Leeds players just walking through the middle of our team, Lynch trying to keep the ball in at all costs, giving a goal away then doing the same again, I could go on. If they didn't notice this then fine but if they did and just stood there I'm a bit disappointed for the fans that paid the money to witness such an inept display from our team. Powell could've been so peed off that he was gathering his thoughts ready to unleash a bollocking in the changing rooms and make wholesale changes to the team and how we set up in the future. Fingers crossed he's dipping into the loan market for a couple of players this week and shipping some of ours out!!! Yep agree with much of that mate - we need someone up front, perhaps Gerard back fit and let's see how that goes. |
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their arms around! Jesus. If he did do it he would get criticised for being too irrate and needing to calm down and be a calming influence on the players. He seemed to me to do a bit of both today, saw him quite a few times on the edge of his area especially in the second half.
