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Post by BoltonTerrier on Sept 21, 2014 12:56:00 GMT 1
I don't really want to talk about the game for obvious reasons but I think we've found a proper player in this lad. Was the only bright speak yesterday. Had their right back on toast all game. Why haven't we used him more?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2014 13:01:32 GMT 1
He's only on a one year deal as well isn't he? We need to sort that quickly.
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Post by 3Pipe on Sept 21, 2014 13:03:35 GMT 1
Lillis gave him his break. I think robins was too afraid of giving the young un's a shot.
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Post by SaudiTerrier on Sept 21, 2014 13:10:23 GMT 1
Because managers. Robins had him for a while and played him for like 3 minutes. Still trying to figure out what Powell is doing, but at least he started him a few times and has seen his ability/potential.
Getting the likes of Bunn, Smith, Coady, etc. from Premier League teams who don't use them goes to show how good recruitment has been in the past few years, the only problem is the amount and speed of said recruitment. We needed a CB for 2 seasons and we finally sign one on deadline day, we've needed a striker for more than a season and we're still waiting.
Everything's great behind the scenes but it needs to show on the pitch. Worried with what I've seen in the past 3 games, really hoping Powell can turn it around.
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Post by SaudiTerrier on Sept 21, 2014 13:14:26 GMT 1
Lillis gave him his break. I think robins was too afraid of giving the young un's a shot. Let's be honest here.. Bunn didn't get much but Robins did give Smith a debut at Hillsborough and then played him for like 20 games in a row. He got all our hopes up with Holmes after that Blackpool game and several appearances after that. He also played Carr a few times and Billing towards the end. And who could forget Crooks at CB against Bournemouth?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2014 13:25:47 GMT 1
He was excellent yesterday.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2014 13:27:22 GMT 1
Bunn's perfect for our squad given the fact he can play AML and up top. Makes players like Paterson seem pointless in being here.
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Post by waltzingthecowshed on Sept 21, 2014 14:06:46 GMT 1
Play him up front he will get the goals, him and Scanz in glimpses the bright sparks yesterday
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Sept 21, 2014 14:07:35 GMT 1
I don't really want to talk about the game for obvious reasons but I think we've found a proper player in this lad. Was the only bright speak yesterday. Had their right back on toast all game. Why haven't we used him more? Maybe Powell hasnt had time to watch the Reading footage.
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Post by John Smith on Sept 21, 2014 14:41:18 GMT 1
If we don't recruit a mobile target man on loan this week then I'd play Harry up top with Wells.
And despite the doom and gloom, in the first half especially we were the better team yesterday for large spells. Butterfield played Wells in with an audacious ball, Bunn was played in by the same player only to blast over when he could have continued on goal, Bunn was hauled down on the edge of the box but Wells rather than Butterfield took the free kick which baffled me. And most of Butterfield's set pieces were bang on point but weren't put away, in either half.
That doesn't excuse the awful defending, the shocking mistakes and Butterfield's dreadful second half showing, but I don't buy the theory that it's the end of the world already and that there's no positives to take from the last couple of games. I really do think everything points to us needing a mobile target man, and perhaps a right back who can both attack and defend. Peltier may as well have put a scum shirt on yesterday such was his contribution. He wasn't alone though.
Lets move on, and think positively. Which starts with Powell thinking positively, not stifling talented lads by asking em to be safe and solid or play out of their comfort zones. Wells needs a link man. Bunn and Butterfield need to be closer to the box. Coady doesnt need Hogg/Peltier in his areas.
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Sept 21, 2014 14:53:23 GMT 1
If we don't recruit a mobile target man on loan this week then I'd play Harry up top with Wells. And despite the doom and gloom, in the first half especially we were the better team yesterday for large spells. Butterfield played Wells in with an audacious ball, Bunn was played in by the same player only to blast over when he could have continued on goal, Bunn was hauled down on the edge of the box but Wells rather than Butterfield took the free kick which baffled me. And most of Butterfield's set pieces were bang on point but weren't put away, in either half. That doesn't excuse the awful defending, the shocking mistakes and Butterfield's dreadful second half showing, but I don't buy the theory that it's the end of the world already and that there's no positives to take from the last couple of games. I really do think everything points to us needing a mobile target man, and perhaps a right back who can both attack and defend. Peltier may as well have put a scum shirt on yesterday such was his contribution. He wasn't alone though. Lets move on, and think positively. Which starts with Powell thinking positively, not stifling talented lads by asking em to be safe and solid or play out of their comfort zones. Wells needs a link man. Bunn and Butterfield need to be closer to the box. Coady doesnt need Hogg/Peltier in his areas.Vaughan injury has not helped.
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Sept 21, 2014 14:58:45 GMT 1
If we don't recruit a mobile target man on loan this week then I'd play Harry up top with Wells. And despite the doom and gloom, in the first half especially we were the better team yesterday for large spells. Butterfield played Wells in with an audacious ball, Bunn was played in by the same player only to blast over when he could have continued on goal, Bunn was hauled down on the edge of the box but Wells rather than Butterfield took the free kick which baffled me. And most of Butterfield's set pieces were bang on point but weren't put away, in either half. That doesn't excuse the awful defending, the shocking mistakes and Butterfield's dreadful second half showing, but I don't buy the theory that it's the end of the world already and that there's no positives to take from the last couple of games. I really do think everything points to us needing a mobile target man, and perhaps a right back who can both attack and defend. Peltier may as well have put a scum shirt on yesterday such was his contribution. He wasn't alone though. Lets move on, and think positively. Which starts with Powell thinking positively, not stifling talented lads by asking em to be safe and solid or play out of their comfort zones. Wells needs a link man. Bunn and Butterfield need to be closer to the box. Coady doesnt need Hogg/Peltier in his areas.Vaughan injury has not helped. The Vaughan injury has not helped matters
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2014 15:03:12 GMT 1
If we don't recruit a mobile target man on loan this week then I'd play Harry up top with Wells. And despite the doom and gloom, in the first half especially we were the better team yesterday for large spells. Butterfield played Wells in with an audacious ball, Bunn was played in by the same player only to blast over when he could have continued on goal, Bunn was hauled down on the edge of the box but Wells rather than Butterfield took the free kick which baffled me. And most of Butterfield's set pieces were bang on point but weren't put away, in either half. That doesn't excuse the awful defending, the shocking mistakes and Butterfield's dreadful second half showing, but I don't buy the theory that it's the end of the world already and that there's no positives to take from the last couple of games. I really do think everything points to us needing a mobile target man, and perhaps a right back who can both attack and defend. Peltier may as well have put a scum shirt on yesterday such was his contribution. He wasn't alone though. Lets move on, and think positively. Which starts with Powell thinking positively, not stifling talented lads by asking em to be safe and solid or play out of their comfort zones. Wells needs a link man. Bunn and Butterfield need to be closer to the box. Coady doesnt need Hogg/Peltier in his areas.Vaughan injury has not helped. We've got one....Majewski.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Sept 21, 2014 15:09:46 GMT 1
One bright light in the gloom Great attitude and pace Please don't spoil him CP.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Sept 21, 2014 15:20:10 GMT 1
Him and Hudson were the only positives from yesterday. I would agree to a certain extent we had plenty of possession but continually do sod all with it, so slow and ponderous.
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Post by John Smith on Sept 21, 2014 15:53:14 GMT 1
The Vaughan injury has not helped matters Agreed. But it's like wishing upon a star, hoping he'll come back and remain fit for any length of time.
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Post by 3Pipe on Sept 21, 2014 15:55:14 GMT 1
Lillis gave him his break. I think robins was too afraid of giving the young un's a shot. Let's be honest here.. Bunn didn't get much but Robins did give Smith a debut at Hillsborough and then played him for like 20 games in a row. He got all our hopes up with Holmes after that Blackpool game and several appearances after that. He also played Carr a few times and Billing towards the end. And who could forget Crooks at CB against Bournemouth? True.
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Post by John Smith on Sept 21, 2014 16:00:31 GMT 1
We've got one....Majewski. Yep, I wouldn't be averse to him playing ahead of Butterfield and Coady, behind the striker. Suppose that might be an idea. Drop the pointless Hogg, stick Majewski in. Wouldn't solve the striker issue, nor the silly mistakes costing us, but it'd surely offer more in terms of us being a threat/creative..? I think it'd bring the best out of Butterfield, having another creator in there. He saw lots of possession in the second half and on the face of it, did little with it. But I made a point of looking where he was looking, and you could sense his frustration as he saw no movement ahead of him. Seriously, neither winger (off the ball) did anything but stick rigidly to the touchline. And Wells? Well, he's hardly a unit is he? Must be hard having two big lumps on you for 90 minutes. Not defending Butterfield entirely (I do rate him a lot though already) as I wish he'd just drove forward with it at times, had a pop at goal, anything. But I lost count of the times he was complaining to his teammates for either not giving him it in good possessions or not moving for him. He's then trying things he can't pull off and looks the one at fault. I'll give him and Bunn lots of credit though, for always asking for the ball, never hiding.
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Post by Cosmo Kramer on Sept 21, 2014 16:54:58 GMT 1
Bunn was excellent yesterday. So hard to knock off the ball, with his sharp turns and direct runs. I personally think he may be able to do a job say just in behind the striker. He seems to have the intelligence (granted that is based on two games at Watford and Leeds).
Bunns style may get us a few penalties this season too! He's already had two defenders sent off who just couldn't contain him. Let's get that contract sorted out!
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Post by aksaiblue on Sept 21, 2014 19:44:31 GMT 1
Bunn is playing for his shirt and deservers it, we need to give Lolley & Hamill a chance and bring back Holmes to give us an option
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Post by BoltonTerrier on Sept 21, 2014 22:49:08 GMT 1
Play him up front he will get the goals, him and Scanz in glimpses the bright sparks yesterday I think the game was crying out for him coming up front with wells, taking Hogg off and sticking ward/hammill on the wing..
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Post by John Smith on Sept 23, 2014 10:01:22 GMT 1
Play him up front he will get the goals, him and Scanz in glimpses the bright sparks yesterday I think the game was crying out for him coming up front with wells, taking Hogg off and sticking ward/hammill on the wing.. My thoughts too.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2014 11:20:10 GMT 1
Bunn is like a bit of a budget Rooney, I wouldn't mind seeing him in the no10 role.
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Sept 23, 2014 11:51:32 GMT 1
Bunn - at Reading he had an international right back on a plate, at Watford his quality play had one of their defenders sent off, at Leeds he had another defender on toast and led to him being sent off as well. Scored two goals in three away games. The start of your career can't be much better than that. He gives us lots of options formation wise. If Wells wasn't playing for any reason - I think he might struggle to get his place back if Bunn were to play in his central role, or alongside Vaughan. Bunn has a lot more penetration and frightens defenders more than Wells, Ward, Hammill.
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Post by Is It Eidur Gudjohnsen on Sept 23, 2014 12:53:50 GMT 1
Some people have been really critical of our approach of buying players for the future rather than for now and Harry Bunn does seem to be the first thats come to fruition. He looks a real prospect with skill but, most importantly, the desire to work hard and achieve something. He is getting a lot of praise but also causing the opposition problems and not many of our players have done that this season. It does seem so obvious to play him alongside Wells and I wonder why CP hasnt done that yet!? Its not like we dont have other left sided attacking people available!
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Sept 23, 2014 16:42:04 GMT 1
. Sticky Bunn. Class.
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Sept 23, 2014 17:45:01 GMT 1
Some people have been really critical of our approach of buying players for the future rather than for now and Harry Bunn does seem to be the first thats come to fruition. He looks a real prospect with skill but, most importantly, the desire to work hard and achieve something. He is getting a lot of praise but also causing the opposition problems and not many of our players have done that this season. It does seem so obvious to play him alongside Wells and I wonder why CP hasnt done that yet!? Its not like we dont have other left sided attacking people available! Not sure I'd want to see him in a two up front with Wells although I could see him playing the one up front instead of Wells if required. I'm happy with were he is out on the wide left in the current 4-3-3 / 4-5-1.
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Post by pettsy74 on Sept 23, 2014 18:15:13 GMT 1
Some people have been really critical of our approach of buying players for the future rather than for now and Harry Bunn does seem to be the first thats come to fruition. He looks a real prospect with skill but, most importantly, the desire to work hard and achieve something. He is getting a lot of praise but also causing the opposition problems and not many of our players have done that this season. It does seem so obvious to play him alongside Wells and I wonder why CP hasnt done that yet!? Its not like we dont have other left sided attacking people available! Not sure I'd want to see him in a two up front with Wells although I could see him playing the one up front instead of Wells if required. I'm happy with were he is out on the wide left in the current 4-3-3 / 4-5-1. Totally agree , the only player who is consistently playing well in their position and half of datm wants to move him !!
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Post by Essex Terrier on Sept 23, 2014 21:28:48 GMT 1
Not sure I'd want to see him in a two up front with Wells although I could see him playing the one up front instead of Wells if required. I'm happy with were he is out on the wide left in the current 4-3-3 / 4-5-1. Totally agree , the only player who is consistently playing well in their position and half of datm wants to move him !! The next Novak!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2014 21:31:07 GMT 1
Totally agree , the only player who is consistently playing well in their position and half of datm wants to move him !! The next Novak! Well I hope we don`t let him go like we did with LV.
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