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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2014 19:30:41 GMT 1
ive got a Hamsters fanny for sale,,if your interested How much, Just out of interest like...... Tuppence
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2014 20:02:31 GMT 1
Tumuch.
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Post by town2014 on Oct 19, 2014 20:31:16 GMT 1
I think if 800 people want to go sing in their hearts out every game, get money to buy flags and other material, then by all means let them. Nothing wrong with it, at least they are trying. I sit in Kilner Bank, however i see n
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Post by town2014 on Oct 19, 2014 20:31:56 GMT 1
I think if 800 people want to go sing in their hearts out every game, get money to buy flags and other material, then by all means let them. Nothing wrong with it, at least they are trying. I sit in Kilner Bank, however i see n Nothing wrong woth it
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Oct 19, 2014 20:42:15 GMT 1
One thing that's not been mentioned before (I think), but the distance between the goal line and the stands in the JSS is bigger than in most grounds. I know the pitch size can't be changed mid-season, but maybe Town could consider lengthening the pitch next season, say by five yards, so that the North Stand is closer to the action. It might help Town a bit.....there's no need to lengthen it at the South Stand end!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2014 20:53:57 GMT 1
How much, Just out of interest like...... Tuppence Hehe.
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Post by Cole on Oct 19, 2014 21:01:25 GMT 1
One thing that's not been mentioned before (I think), but the distance between the goal line and the stands in the JSS is bigger than in most grounds. I know the pitch size can't be changed mid-season, but maybe Town could consider lengthening the pitch next season, say by five yards, so that the North Stand is closer to the action. It might help Town a bit.....there's no need to lengthen it at the South Stand end! theres also a big gap between the front row of seats in the north stand and the safety barrier, and because its a temporary stand it's not very steep :/
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2014 21:04:59 GMT 1
One thing that's not been mentioned before (I think), but the distance between the goal line and the stands in the JSS is bigger than in most grounds. I know the pitch size can't be changed mid-season, but maybe Town could consider lengthening the pitch next season, say by five yards, so that the North Stand is closer to the action. It might help Town a bit.....there's no need to lengthen it at the South Stand end! You are fairly close to the goal at the North End, much closer than the South Stand is. Must admit, the best grounds are the ones where you're right up to the nets of the goals.
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Post by colnevalleyblue on Oct 19, 2014 21:12:26 GMT 1
What we really need is two or three other groups to set up now in other areas. I know you'll probably laugh this off and discredit it but the last half a dozen times I've gone watching the Giants they all seem to really get behind their team. All ages and on ALL areas of the ground.
They probably average 5500 home fans but they do create a good atmosphere in the ground. A group of them (maybe less then 20) sit in the middle of the kilner at the top, acoustically the best area for home fans. But its probably noiser in the riverside!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2014 21:23:01 GMT 1
What we really need is two or three other groups to set up now in other areas. I know you'll probably laugh this off and discredit it but the last half a dozen times I've gone watching the Giants they all seem to really get behind their team. All ages and on ALL areas of the ground. They probably average 5500 home fans but they do create a good atmosphere in the ground. A group of them (maybe less then 20) sit in the middle of the kilner at the top, acoustically the best area for home fans. But its probably noiser in the riverside! I did suggest this to one of the most outspoken members of the Brittania singing section earlier today on facebook. No reason why we cant work together to get more people inbetween the 2 areas singing by co-ordinating songs etc, plus, we've done a lot of groundwork on flags and banners, which could be used to implement the introduction of flags to that end of the ground if they wanted. He didn't seem right interested to be fair, shame.
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Post by colnevalleyblue on Oct 19, 2014 21:35:59 GMT 1
Well I was finished with the singing section after that Charlton league cup game, where the singers at the top in the corner seemed more focused on ridiculing a young blonde girl, doing nothing other than sat with some mates trying to watch a game of football (I'd seen this girl in rickys with her mam n dad pre game).
I cringed for 90 minutes and felt sick and ashamed that people I was sharing the same oxygen with could be so rude to a girl no older then 18 doing nowt wrong but watching her team 100's of miles away on a Tuesday night. It's not banter it was pathetic and the definition of tin pot. So I'm not surprised and actually doubt they'd have the personality or song choice to inspire the more reserved fans to join in.
That said when the whole of the Kilner joins in/claps along it really does make some noise, shame it doesn't happen more often!
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Post by Cole on Oct 19, 2014 21:41:39 GMT 1
What we really need is two or three other groups to set up now in other areas. I know you'll probably laugh this off and discredit it but the last half a dozen times I've gone watching the Giants they all seem to really get behind their team. All ages and on ALL areas of the ground. They probably average 5500 home fans but they do create a good atmosphere in the ground. A group of them (maybe less then 20) sit in the middle of the kilner at the top, acoustically the best area for home fans. But its probably noiser in the riverside! I did suggest this to one of the most outspoken members of the Brittania singing section earlier today on facebook. No reason why we cant work together to get more people inbetween the 2 areas singing by co-ordinating songs etc, plus, we've done a lot of groundwork on flags and banners, which could be used to implement the introduction of flags to that end of the ground if they wanted. He didn't seem right interested to be fair, shame. dont know if it's the wrong thread to put this, but I think this song with 'yorkshire's blue and white' would involve both singing sections and everyone in between...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2014 8:14:57 GMT 1
What this thread has shown is we still have doubters about the NSL. Some more than others. But those that go in the NSL do hVe a good time.
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Post by grist on Oct 20, 2014 8:27:10 GMT 1
Sorry mate but Blackpool fans are really enthusiastic and jealous about the home atmosphere. I agree with them.....which stand do you sit in? KIlner bank where thw NSL have largely come from? about their home atmosphere our ours? about ours: the NSL might not be to everyone's taste (particularly in Kilner bank)but for my stand ir is superb. (direct golf)
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Post by JerryG on Oct 20, 2014 8:38:36 GMT 1
My seat is in the FM Upper but on Saturday I decided to go down to the Lower section at half time and to be fair it didn't sound very loud in there but I'm not going to criticise anyone because it's been excellent work by a fantastic bunch of loyal fans to establish the NSL and I hope it succeeds !
What I don't quite understand is why the fans in the Kilner don't sing and chant because that stand has the most potential to be very very loud. Okay there's the so called singing section at the south end (which seems full of kinds to me) but the vast majority of our fans are in the central areas of the Kilner Bank, why don't they sing? They're more than happy to vocalise their criticisms when things aren't going well, so why not support the team when we're playing well?
It's okay being critical of the atmosphere but the truth is, a winning team brings in enthusiastic and vocal fans who make a noise! - Simple!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2014 8:38:49 GMT 1
about their home atmosphere our ours? about ours: the NSL might not be to everyone's taste (particularly in Kilner bank)but for my stand ir is superb. (direct golf) But the haters in the BR said nobody in the BR or DG can hear the NSL....?
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Post by bro600 on Oct 20, 2014 8:47:59 GMT 1
Are the lads who stayed in the Kilner bank the same lads who stayed there when we got the South Stand? Unfortunately due to illness i'm not making matches to know...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2014 9:08:20 GMT 1
Probably Bro. I sit in the middle and half way up the KIlner.Around us we are vocal , sing, clap and cheer.I like where I sit.We have good banter.The kids at the back of the Kilner ,with he odd one or two older fans are absolutely cringworthy and thir few known chants are disgustingly boring.
The atmosphere on Saturday was good but there was plenty to feel good about.
I can't believe that fans are having a go at other fans who have chosen to sit elsewhere and do a great job of making an atmosphere that looks and sounds enjoyable.
So lets just get on and enjoy being fans where ever we sit.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2014 11:13:51 GMT 1
One thing that's not been mentioned before (I think), but the distance between the goal line and the stands in the JSS is bigger than in most grounds. I know the pitch size can't be changed mid-season, but maybe Town could consider lengthening the pitch next season, say by five yards, so that the North Stand is closer to the action. It might help Town a bit.....there's no need to lengthen it at the South Stand end! theres also a big gap between the front row of seats in the north stand and the safety barrier, and because its a temporary stand it's not very steep :/ Its steeper than the South Stand and the Kilner isnt it? Not sure on Riverside, my memory suggests thats quite steep.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2014 12:12:30 GMT 1
I'm not in the NSL or sit in that part of the ground but fair play to them for what there doing. I think the criticism they have received is unfair to say the least. Surely attempting something is better than doing nothing.
The stadium acoustics really do not help to keep any sound ringing round and the open corners I'm sure lose a decent percentage of volume.
The New York and KC Stadiums as two local examples of far more noise generated from similar or less numbers in attendance. None of the games I've attended at either of these stadiums had more crowd interaction taking place but the sound seemed to be more 'boxed in'.
I heard the home goals for Millers v Leeds on the radio and it sounded like 20k+ home supporters in the ground when infact they had around 9K. In comparison the playback on Radio Leeds of the Town goals sounded like we had 2-3k in attendance rather than 14k. Perhaps slightly more passion in scoring against Leeds but my view when we scored was 3 sides of the ground all on there feet celebrating.
NSL keep on doing what you do. It's a football stadium not a library and you do try hard to get those around you engaged in singing etc.
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Post by patfield on Oct 20, 2014 12:39:40 GMT 1
Been watching Town for 30 years plus, and can't believe how worse the atmosphere at home games has demised How does that work?? a 12 year old thats been watching town for 30 years???
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Post by Marco4 on Oct 20, 2014 12:43:29 GMT 1
I don't want to sing and dance, and don't much want to hear it; as such its great for me that a great many of the people that do are all in the same place so I can avoid them.
Works for me.
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Post by Cole on Oct 20, 2014 12:44:31 GMT 1
about their home atmosphere our ours? about ours: the NSL might not be to everyone's taste (particularly in Kilner bank)but for my stand ir is superb. (direct golf) is it on their forum or just some mates? Was looking on their back Henry street forum and its a load of bollox about how crap their defence is and how they need someone like Sean scannel
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Post by UtahTerrier on Oct 20, 2014 13:05:27 GMT 1
Have to say I agree with the OP the atmosphere wasn't great but was much better when the singing section was at the south side of kilner bank
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Post by galpharm2400 on Oct 20, 2014 13:25:39 GMT 1
much better to concentrate on the team doing much better..wherever you sit/stand its going to get better watching town if we continue in this vein.
maybe the op and others would like to 'advise' people sitting in the main stand or who sit in the 'non singing' end of the kilner??? and of course the families could do a lot better by trying to squeeze into the kilner to add more 'weight' to the noise?
It was noisy at town when we competed at the top end of this division, it will be again if we can get up the league and stay there, especially by scoring 4 and looking like we could get 10....
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Post by Sio on Oct 20, 2014 13:35:05 GMT 1
Have to say I agree with the OP the atmosphere wasn't great but was much better when the singing section was at the south side of kilner bank What do you mean? We haven't personally moved the singing section or even encouraged the people in there to move. We've established our own section and asked people to join us if they want to. If Liam the drummer and his little crew want to keep their singing section alive then maybe they should do some work in building it back up. That's the only reason many people hate the NSL- because things arent all laid out for them how they like it any more. Most sensible fans realise that spreading the noise can only be a good thing. Bet before this season most of the kids in the FMU didn't even know we could sing at home games.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2014 13:36:02 GMT 1
Are we going to go through shit like this after every home game? You should have seen the shite I got last night on facebook Pozza, basically we were accused of taking the profit from the shirt sales, and the fact that I "couldn't provide any evidence we had given any money to the club", was proof that I'd trousered it all. £55 quids worth of streamers chucked from the upper tier just yesterday, not to mention all the brass we've spent on flags, big and small. Nice to see the club giving wavy flags out in the upper tier yesterday though, it will all help bring the fans back. [bra Any chance of having a name and shame if it was on facebook? Only ask this because im not on there and amate was telling me theres a bit of trolling going on on the town page, from town fans taking the piss.
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Post by Sio on Oct 20, 2014 13:37:40 GMT 1
You should have seen the shite I got last night on facebook Pozza, basically we were accused of taking the profit from the shirt sales, and the fact that I "couldn't provide any evidence we had given any money to the club", was proof that I'd trousered it all. £55 quids worth of streamers chucked from the upper tier just yesterday, not to mention all the brass we've spent on flags, big and small. Nice to see the club giving wavy flags out in the upper tier yesterday though, it will all help bring the fans back. [bra Any chance of having a name and shame if it was on facebook? Only ask this because im not on there and amate was telling me theres a bit of trolling going on on the town page, from town fans taking the piss. The lad who was making accusations is called Anthoney Swiffen. And he really hates it when you spell his name Anthony. Therefore always spell his name Anthony.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2014 14:12:02 GMT 1
[bra Any chance of having a name and shame if it was on facebook? Only ask this because im not on there and amate was telling me theres a bit of trolling going on on the town page, from town fans taking the piss. The lad who was making accusations is called Anthoney Swiffen. And he really hates it when you spell his name Anthony. Therefore always spell his name Anthony. Aye that was him. Anthony. There's loads of trolls on there unfortunately, but we obviously like to mention and defend the NSL on there to make sure those that are interested get any info that may be of interest to them. There does tend to be an emerging trend of the personality of the fans that are opposed to the NSL, not much chance of me ever rushing back to stand next to them that's for sure.
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Post by Big Ern on Oct 20, 2014 14:45:48 GMT 1
I think the NSL is a fantastic initiative and one which we should be proud of. In my opinion it doesn't matter if the noise isn't as vociferous, it appears that the whole point of it is to not only give the team a boost from behind the goal but to get together as fans and to enjoy the company of like minded fans. I have to say Im not a singer so won't sit in there myself, instead I prefer to sit with a flask of bovril and chew the fat with my friends away from the loud noise.
I do however think its a fantastic initiative and the OP needs to get off his high horse.
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