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Post by impact on Oct 21, 2014 22:05:45 GMT 1
I was disappointed with how defensive we were tonight and the lacks of subs. The one player we needed to play between the lines (Majewski) wasn't even on the bench. Even then I was hoping we'd bring Wells on and go 2 up top. They were happy to leave 2 back vs Holt, would have been interesting to see what would have happened if we had 2 there. Would likely have meant the full backs wouldn't go as high allowing Bunn and Scannell to get out of that wing back position.
Felt sorry for Hogg tonight tbh - he bust a gut to press but then no one came to help making it completely pointless.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Oct 21, 2014 22:15:24 GMT 1
not sure what happened after we scored, we looked like we were playing attack and defence for 20 odd minutes?? most of the time all 11 back in our half but we were not biting into tackles, just sort of hanging about??
everyone sees the goal coming apart from the town bench?...
when we traded attacks with them we looked more like scoring than they did, even with their pace?? 99.9% of their efforts ended up somewhere in the stands??
not sure what exactly we were frightened of?
when we did press high up we gave ourselves some chances and broke well but allowing anyone in this division the run of one half of the pitch for long periods will usually end up in conceding..
Scannell cannot be waved off everytime he is given the ball, someone has to back him up and Holt cannot keep being asked to chase around on his lonesome. Having a proper centre forward does not mean just leaving him to it.
we didn't lose and tbh the second half was poor but its always better than losing and I was ok with it looking more like us to get the winner than them.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Oct 21, 2014 22:17:28 GMT 1
Fair result. We defended well at the end. Smithies two excellent saves near the end. Couldn't really see us winning it as game went on. Hogg was excellent. Still pleased with 3 wins 2 draws
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Post by k1man999 on Oct 21, 2014 22:24:56 GMT 1
we just looked a little jaded we were not close enough to holt and when he went wide to drag defenders off and create space the midfield didnt get up and support. and at times scanz put in some good pull backs but again no midfield getting in there. think coady needs to get up the pitch more in these situations
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Post by buckers on Oct 21, 2014 22:29:14 GMT 1
I'm gonna start by saying how big is that Ince that came on for them!!! He was like John Coffey from the green mile.
Back to the game slighty disappointed we didn't chance our arm more. No offence to Brighton they weren't anything special (although took a great save by Smithes late on to stop them winning it) so I don't see why we couldn't have changed things up.
It's hard when the other team has every man behind the ball and trying to catch us on the break. A points a point but they'll be going home the happier set of fans I think.
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Post by terraceterrier on Oct 21, 2014 22:29:28 GMT 1
Is it only me who thinks that wasn't good enough 2nd half? Heres some clichés but they are true 1)showed them too much respect 2) We were far too conservative in our approach. Would have been nice to go for it and see Wells on and a 2 man strike attack(we could have gone 3-5-2 and still remained solid in midfield)...So far id give CP a 8/10 but ffs Chris they were there for the taking tonight with a more adventurous 2nd half approach..imo
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Post by midge on Oct 21, 2014 22:43:41 GMT 1
Depends what you mean by more adventurous!!!??
If you mean get the ball forward at every opportunity like the people around us, then no!!
Thought we controlled the game better in the 2nd half by keeping possession, which frustrated many but meant they couldn't dictate as much as they did in the 1st!
It s just different ways of playing- we ain't gonna blow teams away like Blackpool like many expect!!!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2014 22:44:15 GMT 1
Caskey will be along shortly to talk us in the patronising tone of Young Mr Grace...
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Post by natbrownsgloves on Oct 21, 2014 22:46:58 GMT 1
Agree with impact and terrace. Far too stagnant second half and gave them so much time on the ball. However, we kept our shape well and aside from when they did get behind us and Smithies raced out and saved us a point, they were limited to speculative chances. But at home, with all the attacking prowess we have shown recently and Brighton looking disjointed when we did run at them with pace first half, we really should be looking to capitalize.
Was more than disappointed by the lack of substitutions, Scanz was tired with 20 to go, don't understand why we couldn't bring Wells on and go 442 when it clearly wasn't working for almost all the second half.
Hogg MOM for me, worked hard all game and was the only one closing down and chasing balls towards the end. Butterfield looked a bit lost second half (or is that because I expect more from him?!?).
This is constructive criticism, still happy with the point. Still looking forward to Saturday and still thinking we are in for a comfortable season.
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Post by ajsfad on Oct 21, 2014 22:52:20 GMT 1
They were all knackered after 60 minutes. An injection of fresh legs and wells up top with Holt would have made a huge difference I reckon. Smithies saved us at the end with a few bits of quality keeping, the save on to the bar was top class.
Other than that played quite well, happy with a point.
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Post by detox on Oct 21, 2014 22:52:47 GMT 1
2nd half all i saw was scannell and holt waving their arms in frustration at not being given the ball...i don't know wht the midfield were so risk averse, we faffed around at the back a lotand when we did get round the back of them only Holt was in the box with the rest of the team 30 yards back... Brighton came without a win in 8 , albeit 5 draws in 6 games now...they had pace, sure, but we looked more wary of them than them of us.
not sure what the appeal was for when they scored...anyone see anything ?
not sure wells would have had any impact tbh, the ball just wasn't being played into the channels often enough, or over the top of the full backs...and as a team we didn't close them down as quick as we have done in previous games...all very strange..but we didn't lose, and we've moved up another place in the table...
on to the next game...
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Post by birkbybloke on Oct 21, 2014 22:59:20 GMT 1
Odd one tonight. Expectations raised by Saturday - pass the ball to Super Scanz n it all be hunky dory. Not as straight forward as that though innit? Thought we looked a tad jaded to be honest and also think Brighton did a pretty good job flooding the midfield. Thus no one getting into the box when Scanz put it on the penalty spot and no one to support the frustrated and frustrating Holt. Not a fan of his antics tonight -enough with the moaning already. Looks a bit of a flat track bully imho. Yeah we need to keep him in the absence of anyone else but think I would prefer A bit more craft than the moany pointer that we saw tonight.
Powell seemed happy with the point and my grumbles sound like the whinges of a tardy old twat in the face of some much needed consistency. We probably still need to pack the midfield and maybe we should take it as a compliment that Brighton essentially parked the bus. And praise be to Smithies for two fantastic pieces of keeping in the second half. Also Hogg was a tireless presence in the middle. Possible contender for MoM tonight along with the solid Lynch n Hudson. Also I'd like to send a good word in the direction of Robinson - did his work quietly and effectively.
Anyway unbeaten in 5 and probably will take another point at the Tractor Boys quite happily. New territory for us Town fans this, calmly going about our job and creeping steadily up the table. Think we're addicted to the roller coaster rides of the past however many years.
Onwards....
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Post by impact on Oct 21, 2014 23:01:07 GMT 1
They were all knackered after 60 minutes. An injection of fresh legs and wells up top with Holt would have made a huge difference I reckon. Smithies saved us at the end with a few bits of quality keeping, the save on to the bar was top class. Other than that played quite well, happy with a point. Sent from my HTC One_M8 using proboards Our fitness levels are worrying me a bit - that's something I noticed on Saturday as well. Powell needs to spot this and get subs on sooner and mainly in the middle of the pitch.
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Post by garyroberts'leftfoot on Oct 21, 2014 23:06:41 GMT 1
2nd half all i saw was scannell and holt waving their arms in frustration at not being given the ball...i don't know wht the midfield were so risk averse, we faffed around at the back a lotand when we did get round the back of them only Holt was in the box with the rest of the team 30 yards back... Brighton came without a win in 8 , albeit 5 draws in 6 games now...they had pace, sure, but we looked more wary of them than them of us. not sure what the appeal was for when they scored...anyone see anything ? not sure wells would have had any impact tbh, the ball just wasn't being played into the channels often enough, or over the top of the full backs...and as a team we didn't close them down as quick as we have done in previous games...all very strange..but we didn't lose, and we've moved up another place in the table... on to the next game... Looked like when we tried to clear the ball it hit one of their players on the arm. Thought it was a clear hand ball at the time but would need to see it again to be certain. The corner shouldn't have been given either, clear push on Hudson by O'Grady (who was crap). Shame that we didn't push for the win but it could easy have backfired if we had gone two up top. We still looked the more likely to score. Butter fields set pieces were a bit annoying tonight. Floated in with no pace. He needs to start putting a lot more pace onto the ball.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Oct 21, 2014 23:09:15 GMT 1
Can't disagree with anything that has been said already. Thought we were better second half, kept possession well and kept our shape well. No support from midfield in attack and there seemed to lack urgency to get the game won the longer it went on, we seemed happy to accept the point. Bunn didn't get into the game enough either. Given the next two fixtures are hard games really thought we could have done with winning tonight.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2014 23:10:38 GMT 1
Yes it would but it's also important to keep your feet on the ground and not to underestimate the opponents. Brighton are a good team and unbeaten in 5 sounds rather good considering the start we had It's a decent point, I agree But they haven't won in 8 games. Surely we should have thrown Wells on alongside Holt for the last twenty to try and get 3 points Whuch might just have left us wide open to quick break from Brighton if we had swapped to two up font and gone 4 4 4 3.
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Oct 21, 2014 23:10:49 GMT 1
They were all knackered after 60 minutes. An injection of fresh legs and wells up top with Holt would have made a huge difference I reckon. Smithies saved us at the end with a few bits of quality keeping, the save on to the bar was top class. Other than that played quite well, happy with a point. Sent from my HTC One_M8 using proboards Our fitness levels are worrying me a bit - that's something I noticed on Saturday as well. Powell needs to spot this and get subs on sooner and mainly in the middle of the pitch. Think you're being over critical regarding fitness - we put a lot into the match on Saturday and it was the same 11 again practically all match 3 days later. Powell should've definitely made subs earlier though.
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Post by TheDalaiPharmer on Oct 21, 2014 23:25:50 GMT 1
It's a decent point, I agree But they haven't won in 8 games. Surely we should have thrown Wells on alongside Holt for the last twenty to try and get 3 points Whuch might just have left us wide open to quick break from Brighton if we had swapped to two up font and gone 4 4 4 3. Actually I'd love us to go with 15 outfield players
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Post by jqhtfc on Oct 21, 2014 23:26:56 GMT 1
Both teams just cancelled each other out!!!
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Oct 21, 2014 23:28:39 GMT 1
I thought he should have brought Wardy on for Scanz for the last fifteen but hindsight is always easier.
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Post by gledholt terrier on Oct 21, 2014 23:32:13 GMT 1
Odd one tonight. Expectations raised by Saturday - pass the ball to Super Scanz n it all be hunky dory. Not as straight forward as that though innit? Thought we looked a tad jaded to be honest and also think Brighton did a pretty good job flooding the midfield. Thus no one getting into the box when Scanz put it on the penalty spot and no one to support the frustrated and frustrating Holt. Not a fan of his antics tonight -enough with the moaning already. Looks a bit of a flat track bully imho. Yeah we need to keep him in the absence of anyone else but think I would prefer A bit more craft than the moany pointer that we saw tonight. Powell seemed happy with the point and my grumbles sound like the whinges of a tardy old twat in the face of some much needed consistency. We probably still need to pack the midfield and maybe we should take it as a compliment that Brighton essentially parked the bus. And praise be to Smithies for two fantastic pieces of keeping in the second half. Also Hogg was a tireless presence in the middle. Possible contender for MoM tonight along with the solid Lynch n Hudson. Also I'd like to send a good word in the direction of Robinson - did his work quietly and effectively. Anyway unbeaten in 5 and probably will take another point at the Tractor Boys quite happily. New territory for us Town fans this, calmly going about our job and creeping steadily up the table. Think we're addicted to the roller coaster rides of the past however many years. Onwards.... Glad Robinson got a mention - had an excellent game and, with Hogg, MOM for me. But for a bit of a spawny equaliser, CP's tactics could easily have brought 3 points. Not particularly inspiring, but I thought the team worked hard against a strong (apart from up front) Brighton team whose pace was pretty much neutralised for the most part. Did have more of a look of an away team - hopefully, it will work again on Saturday.
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Post by impact on Oct 21, 2014 23:36:34 GMT 1
Anyone have a decent view of their goal? Players seemed to be indicating it was hand ball.
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Post by macgalph on Oct 21, 2014 23:36:37 GMT 1
Scannell got kicked on the back of his right calf early doors and never really recovered.
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Post by wildbillthetownfan on Oct 21, 2014 23:43:14 GMT 1
It was a tough game tonight and i thought we looked a bit tired. Every single corner in the second half someone was holding Grants shirt and its becoming a a joke, but a draw was probably a fair result.
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Post by bluedogs, Esq. on Oct 21, 2014 23:49:23 GMT 1
I think we paid Brighton too much respect in the first half, after a hour both teams looked tired and we should of made changers sooner Hogg was MOM for me I am happy with not losing utt
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Post by impact on Oct 21, 2014 23:51:19 GMT 1
On the point of corners, how bad are ours? I reckon the opposition are more likely to score from our corner than us.
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Oct 22, 2014 0:53:56 GMT 1
Sweet finish from Butterfield after a lovely move.
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Post by John Smith on Oct 22, 2014 1:37:01 GMT 1
I think a draw was a fair result. We again looked very dangerous going forward, especially first half where Butterfield was at his scheming best. Great work from Scannell and Smith for the goal which was sweetly put away by Jacob. There was another couple of crosses that flashed across goal and both Bunn and Scannell were getting joy in that first half. Also, Butterfield first winning the ball back then dancing through their midfield before getting hauled down. During that period I had my first "we could do something special this season" thought. Seriously. But it was soon after that where Brighton started to push us back and although I felt the corner for their goal wasn't a corner (there was a push on Hudson I think) and it looked like handball when they did score, I have to say it'd been coming a bit. We seemed to retreat and were less comfortable in possession.
Second half wasn't great, not for either side to be fair. Couple of long range efforts for both but little else.
Performance wise, I think Butterfield edged MOM for me over Hogg. Robinson and Smith were good, and Scannell again looked a threat for the most part. Disappointed with Coady slightly, didn't get involved enough for me, and Holt had a bit of a stinker all being said. Too much whingeing and not enough thinking. Twice he ought to have laid the ball off for Butterfield and Scannell but chose the greedy option and the chances went.
I expected earlier subs. Bunn and Scannell looked tired, and as said, Holt wasn't having a great time of it. But I reckon CP saw a point as a decent result and didn't want to risk losing that. Negative? I can see others suggesting so. But not for me. More like realistic. The decent form/run continues.
Looking forward to Ipswich now. UTT
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Post by Venezuelan Pete on Oct 22, 2014 7:31:50 GMT 1
I think we'll see some changes for Ipswich. The front three all looked very tired in the last 15 mins, so I don't think that a third game in the space of a week will do them any good. Especially Scannell and Holt, neither of whom has played many full 90 minutes until recently. Not sure what Powell will do but I expect ward to come in for Holt, or maybe 4-4-2 with ward and wells, but that's risky away from home
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Post by htfcfcfc on Oct 22, 2014 7:43:00 GMT 1
Would have been nice to see us go all out for the 3 points. Win your home games and all that I feel that changing the formation with a latesub could have turned it either way and at this stage of the season I'm more than happy with a draw to keep the unbeaten run going as I feel a defeat would have set us back a bit with a tough stretch of games to come. Would have thought Powells expertise at changing formations would have worked.... personally, I think we have put ourselves in a position in the last few games to take a risk. Potentially Lose 1 point or gain 2 in a home game against a team probably lacking a little in confidence. Still, happy to keep the unbeaten run going. Nice to see some consistency in a positive way. 11 points from 15 is promotion/play off form whichever way you look at it.
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