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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 11:32:53 GMT 1
It was important to only a minority. Hardly 'Admingate'. Nonsense Board disappeared overnight also, months and months (maybe years) before the Millbridge subforum incident. No one said too much because it really wasn't worth getting upset about. DATM isn't a democracy, it is run by the admins. Their house, their rules. The NB established a football team played multiple games against the NetTerriers and other local outfits, and was solely created on DATM. Before the NB, none knew each other. Still, folk moved on. Is it really worth bringing something up from so long ago, and especially "on topic"? Its more of a personal (or group) vendetta than a HTAFC related situation? I take on board what you're saying, but obviously a lot of people thought the PSB was worth getting upset about.
I don't know much about the NB or why it disappeared so I can't comment about that, but I do know the PSB was deleted maliciously by two admins abusing their positions. Yes you are right, it was a personal vendetta, but by the two admins involved, it's in the open now as it should have been from the start, so we will move on now.
Ian, it was a mistake by one admin, nothing more. I was an admin at the time and it was a genuine cock up as far as I remember. No egging on or celebrating because the pikeys were upset, in fact Rob tried his arse off to recover the whole thing. I know I was then subjected to months of 'you are terry' and similar comments and snipes for what? For agreeing to be an admin to help the site carry on running. Christ, I even had someone at an HTSA meeting grass me up to Dean Hoyle, 'Dean, Dean, he's an admin on DATM, he's one of the reasons everybody is negative'. I understand why everybody got upset and maybe it could have been handled better buy it wasn't. There was one admin at fault, a real person, and he fucked up, that's it.
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Post by roberttownblue on Nov 24, 2014 12:09:30 GMT 1
I take on board what you're saying, but obviously a lot of people thought the PSB was worth getting upset about.
I don't know much about the NB or why it disappeared so I can't comment about that, but I do know the PSB was deleted maliciously by two admins abusing their positions. Yes you are right, it was a personal vendetta, but by the two admins involved, it's in the open now as it should have been from the start, so we will move on now.
Ian, it was a mistake by one admin, nothing more. I was an admin at the time and it was a genuine cock up as far as I remember. No egging on or celebrating because the pikeys were upset, in fact Rob tried his arse off to recover the whole thing. I know I was then subjected to months of 'you are terry' and similar comments and snipes for what? For agreeing to be an admin to help the site carry on running. Christ, I even had someone at an HTSA meeting grass me up to Dean Hoyle, 'Dean, Dean, he's an admin on DATM, he's one of the reasons everybody is negative'. I understand why everybody got upset and maybe it could have been handled better buy it wasn't. There was one admin at fault, a real person, and he fucked up, that's it.
As you say it was handled badly by the whole admin team, and I'm genuinely sorry you were subjected to any abuse.
Luke and Rob are on twitter laughing at this thread now, check for yourself @huddersluke and click on the 1 favourite, so I don't think it was one admin at fault but two, and I certainly don't believe for one minute it was a mistake. I really do hope Rob did try to recover the situation but the cynic in me asks how hard did he try because many people on here say there must be a way to recover mistakenly deleted items, which I thought at the time. Maybe I'll ask him next time I see him.
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Post by scoffsablue on Nov 24, 2014 12:33:04 GMT 1
So after asking them to 'man up' or be named, can I now ask the person who told you about my forum to either man up or be named as well? Really disappointed in this, none of us on that board have anything to do with Luke (Terry) and he was the culprit of deleting the board, not Lindley. As for mids saying we all thought it was funny, utter rubbish. 3 years on we were laughing at the fact you thought Terry wasn't a real person on a private board, just one comment that you've taken out of context in a conversation that you were never part of. It is as said above, pathetic. Just a minute Johnny....I never named you in any form whatsoever in the original post or subsequently, but now you've stood up, how come you and the other poster on downwiththemac (who i've not named) were posting about the deletion of the Pikey Board only a few months ago...(3 years after the event) but on the discovery of this, I/we can't discuss/post about it...smacks of double standards to me...I also wasn't aware that it was your forum but why should that make any difference?...What happened 3 years ago happened but it doesn't make it right just as you don't think that it's right that someone would leak that information.....There should never have been any information to leak just as there should never have been a deletion of an interesting and informative board to many....The transcript that i detailed in the original post is precise to the letter including smileys.....If the Pikey Board had been as dear to some in a position of responsibility (admin) as it was to many others what would you think to what was said....I know you're a good lad Johnny and i also know that you're probably getting hassle on the downwiththemac board now.....but in real terms who is at fault....the deleter, the subsequent and recent posts about it on DWTM or the fact that its finally come out on here....TBH what was pathetic was the fact that it ever really happened in the first place and then the subsequent closing of ranks in keeping people guessing.
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Nov 24, 2014 12:38:51 GMT 1
As I suspected the naming and shaming as done nothing but re-open the can of worms.
Surely a more constructive angle would be to appeal to one of the several whizzkids on here to try and retrieve the said section rather than trying to cast further mud.
I have every sympaythy with those that have lost their content but don't see anything new here except to restart the argument by posting new information that can't be proved.
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Post by terrierdaz on Nov 24, 2014 12:45:39 GMT 1
the proboards policy is to keep a back up for 24 hours , after that it is overwritten and lost forever
I am a teccie and have tried various methods in recovering the board.
I did try to get it recovered at the time but we were too late
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Post by scoffsablue on Nov 24, 2014 12:48:52 GMT 1
As I suspected the naming and shaming as done nothing but re-open the can of worms. Surely a more constructive angle would be to appeal to one of the several whizzkids on here to try and retrieve the said section rather than trying to cast further mud. I have every sympaythy with those that have lost their content but don't see anything new here except to restart the argument by posting new information that can't be proved. It's unfortunate but apparently deleting is a hell of a lot easier than retrieving and we've already been informed on more than one occasion by the powers that be that it is gone forever....Although there is one person we haven't pleaded with yet.....Has anyone got Steve Jobs number !!!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 12:54:37 GMT 1
Great, so this entire thread is to say that some admin deleted a forum by accident, and that Lindleyterrier can be a sarcy c*** from time to time.
...yeah? This is hardly news to anyone who knows him. But also anyone who knows him knows that he's a genuine guy who is Town through and through. To publicly "out him" like this is nothing short of bullying.
I've met a number of the accusers on here over the years (and ridden for P4P with you) and thought that you were sound, but this is really shit.
Also, the difference between having a private conversation on a private message board, to accusing someone of something, using their real name, on a fully public forum shouldn't be confused. And yeah, it's obvious who the "mole" on our other site is. Not that there's anything to be secret about, we just wanted a place where we could talk about Town that was free from some of the clowns on here. Clearly we let in one of them (and yeah it's pretty obvious who you are).
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 12:56:41 GMT 1
Great, so this entire thread is to say that some admin deleted a forum by accident, and that Lindleyterrier can be a sarcy c*** from time to time. ...yeah? This is hardly news to anyone who knows him. But also anyone who knows him knows that he's a genuine guy who is Town through and through. To publicly "out him" like this is nothing short of bullying. I've met a number of the accusers on here over the years (and ridden for P4P with you) and thought that you were sound, but this is really shit. Also, the difference between having a private conversation on a private message board, to accusing someone of something, using their real name, on a fully public forum shouldn't be confused. And yeah, it's obvious who the "mole" on our other site is. Not that there's anything to be secret about, we just wanted a place where we could talk about Town that was free from some of the clowns on here. Clearly we let in one of them (and yeah it's pretty obvious who you are). do you want a tissue?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 12:59:42 GMT 1
Great, so this entire thread is to say that some admin deleted a forum by accident, and that Lindleyterrier can be a sarcy c*** from time to time. ...yeah? This is hardly news to anyone who knows him. But also anyone who knows him knows that he's a genuine guy who is Town through and through. To publicly "out him" like this is nothing short of bullying. I've met a number of the accusers on here over the years (and ridden for P4P with you) and thought that you were sound, but this is really shit. Also, the difference between having a private conversation on a private message board, to accusing someone of something, using their real name, on a fully public forum shouldn't be confused. And yeah, it's obvious who the "mole" on our other site is. Not that there's anything to be secret about, we just wanted a place where we could talk about Town that was free from some of the clowns on here. Clearly we let in one of them (and yeah it's pretty obvious who you are). Is it obvious? I've no idea.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 13:00:12 GMT 1
Great, so this entire thread is to say that some admin deleted a forum by accident, and that Lindleyterrier can be a sarcy c*** from time to time. ...yeah? This is hardly news to anyone who knows him. But also anyone who knows him knows that he's a genuine guy who is Town through and through. To publicly "out him" like this is nothing short of bullying. I've met a number of the accusers on here over the years (and ridden for P4P with you) and thought that you were sound, but this is really shit. Also, the difference between having a private conversation on a private message board, to accusing someone of something, using their real name, on a fully public forum shouldn't be confused. And yeah, it's obvious who the "mole" on our other site is. Not that there's anything to be secret about, we just wanted a place where we could talk about Town that was free from some of the clowns on here. Clearly we let in one of them (and yeah it's pretty obvious who you are). do you want a tissue? Do you want your sunglasses back?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 13:01:27 GMT 1
Do you want your sunglasses back? yes
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Post by scoffsablue on Nov 24, 2014 13:04:47 GMT 1
the proboards policy is to keep a back up for 24 hours , after that it is overwritten and lost forever I am a teccie and have tried various methods in recovering the board. I did try to get it recovered at the time but we were too late I remember you telling me that at the time Daz....Would it be right to assume that the admin at that time would be aware of that information??
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Post by roberttownblue on Nov 24, 2014 13:08:38 GMT 1
As I suspected the naming and shaming as done nothing but re-open the can of worms. Surely a more constructive angle would be to appeal to one of the several whizzkids on here to try and retrieve the said section rather than trying to cast further mud. I have every sympaythy with those that have lost their content but don't see anything new here except to restart the argument by posting new information that can't be proved. It's unfortunate but apparently deleting is a hell of a lot easier than retrieving and we've already been informed on more than one occasion by the powers that be that it is gone forever....Although there is one person we haven't pleaded with yet.....Has anyone got Steve Jobs number !!! I'm not sure but I think it starts with 666
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 13:11:46 GMT 1
I think it was to do with DATM being a place for all HTAFC fans rather than clique sections, which makes perfect sense to me. Oooh so it was clique clearing?!! Fair enough then. I hope the current admin can follow this 'logic' and remove some of the current cliques...starting with self righteous head up their own arse subservients see if you think its ok then Mids comments and Millbridge Massive 'likes' the post. Clique. Stick together lads, makes it more believable if you do. EDIT: And Mids?! Heads up arses brigade? Rather be up my own than someone elses
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Post by cowshed on Nov 24, 2014 13:24:20 GMT 1
the proboards policy is to keep a back up for 24 hours , after that it is overwritten and lost forever I am a teccie and have tried various methods in recovering the board. I did try to get it recovered at the time but we were too late Ok I take your word for it, do it again, the away days of Millbridge buses 1st season? It's always good to reminisce!
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Post by mirfieldchris on Nov 24, 2014 13:25:43 GMT 1
I wouldn't want Mids' head up my arse! Ouch! ;-)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 13:33:48 GMT 1
I don't think the Nonsense Board was deleted was it, it was just merged, and so the threads just dropped off the front couple of pages??? Pretty sure that content is still there if you know what to search for. It was deleted. Still we didn't see the need to cause any fuss and 'out' those who chose to do it. Instead we converse through other mediums. The pikey sub-board was deleted when they tried to make it into a separate board. Not intentionally overnight like the nonsense board was.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 13:38:22 GMT 1
Here's a simple way of sorting things out.
Why don't the pikeys create their own proboards site? Job sorted.
It'll stop the bitching
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 13:55:44 GMT 1
Here's a simple way of sorting things out. Why don't the pikeys create their own proboards site? Job sorted. It'll stop the bitching fuck that,pikey sambuca bar is staying here,, thank you
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Post by roberttownblue on Nov 24, 2014 14:00:20 GMT 1
Oooh so it was clique clearing?!! Fair enough then. I hope the current admin can follow this 'logic' and remove some of the current cliques...starting with self righteous head up their own arse subservients see if you think its ok then Mids comments and Millbridge Massive 'likes' the post. Clique. Stick together lads, makes it more believable if you do. EDIT: And Mids?! Heads up arses brigade? Rather be up my own than someone elses I thought some of your comments were reasonable arguments until now, if you look back at my previous answer to your points I explained how the "clique" was formed by the admins moving all away day posts to a separate board . . . hence the name Pikey. I can take it that you won't listen to the truth in case it gets in the way of your perceived views.
Incidentally I will like any post I agree with including yours, it's not a case of being in a clique it's a case of freedom to agree or disagree. I help run the Millbridge coach and I'm proud of it and all we have done, so please get the name right . . . it 's PIKEY'S not Massive
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 14:03:08 GMT 1
I think it was to do with DATM being a place for all HTAFC fans rather than clique sections, which makes perfect sense to me. Oooh so it was clique clearing?!! Fair enough then. I hope the current admin can follow this 'logic' and remove some of the current cliques...starting with self righteous head up their own arse subservients see if you think its ok then Care to elaborate?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 14:05:32 GMT 1
I'm not here to take sides, join cliques or stir shit.
I'm here to remind people how fucking brilliant this board is when we're all onside. Seriously, some of my most proud moments following Town have come about solely because of DATM: the season tickets for disadvantaged kids in the century season, the Pilks 'Believe' banner, the OT Play off tickets for youngsters and countless sponsorship requests. It's this board more than anything else that makes me go 'See, society isn't that bad, at all. We're still good people at heart'.
What happened is massively unfortunate, and understandably saddening for the pikeys, but is it worth fracturing permanently everything that is good about this place?
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Post by mids on Nov 24, 2014 14:11:37 GMT 1
Oooh so it was clique clearing?!! Fair enough then. I hope the current admin can follow this 'logic' and remove some of the current cliques...starting with self righteous head up their own arse subservients see if you think its ok then Mids comments and Millbridge Massive 'likes' the post. Clique. Stick together lads, makes it more believable if you do. EDIT: And Mids?! Heads up arses brigade? Rather be up my own than someone elses Of course. A good clique always sticks together. Whose arse am i supposed to be up? Can't be the club's!! Not all of the board turned up to my wedding this summer I felt very let down haha
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Post by mids on Nov 24, 2014 14:15:10 GMT 1
Oooh so it was clique clearing?!! Fair enough then. I hope the current admin can follow this 'logic' and remove some of the current cliques...starting with self righteous head up their own arse subservients see if you think its ok then Care to elaborate? Not especially.
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Post by mids on Nov 24, 2014 14:17:52 GMT 1
Here's a simple way of sorting things out. Why don't the pikeys create their own proboards site? Job sorted. It'll stop the bitching How would that resolve the cause of the problem? It's not bitching anyway...it's a constructive, hearty discussion...nobody's taking offence to anything that's been said, and if they do they need to grow up and quickly. It doesn't stop what happened from being malicious at worst, and incompetent at best. But at least this unveiling brings things nearer closure. My therapist will be pleased
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 14:23:39 GMT 1
Why make that comment then?! It makes you out to be on some kind of high horse
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 14:25:02 GMT 1
I'm not here to take sides, join cliques or stir shit. I'm here to remind people how fucking brilliant this board is when we're all onside. Seriously, some of my most proud moments following Town have come about solely because of DATM: the season tickets for disadvantaged kids in the century season, the Pilks 'Believe' banner, the OT Play off tickets for youngsters and countless sponsorship requests. It's this board more than anything else that makes me go 'See, society isn't that bad, at all. We're still good people at heart'. What happened is massively unfortunate, and understandably saddening for the pikeys, but is it worth fracturing permanently everything that is good about this place? What's more saddening is that Scoffa chose to bring this up three years later on even though he had been told in person by a former admin that what happened genuinely was a mistake. That old thread which is on page three sums up the situation that happened but those who took offence to a mistake still can't get over it was an error. As I posted earlier in this thread before receiving an aggressive tirade from Scoffa and other posters, this would only cause division and drag someones name through the mud. Well it has hasn't it. The people who chose to divulge information from a private forum have most likely lost trust and respect from those who post on that site. Not only that LindleyTerrier's name has been dragged through the mud for no reason. Perhaps Scoffa's intentions are more down to his criticism of the NSL?! Scoffa in his 'outing' post may have said he was drawing a line under it but in reality he was opening a can of worms. His actions have created a split now between the clique of the pikeys/millbridge guys and those who post on a private forum.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 14:31:40 GMT 1
I'm not here to take sides, join cliques or stir shit. I'm here to remind people how fucking brilliant this board is when we're all onside. Seriously, some of my most proud moments following Town have come about solely because of DATM: the season tickets for disadvantaged kids in the century season, the Pilks 'Believe' banner, the OT Play off tickets for youngsters and countless sponsorship requests. It's this board more than anything else that makes me go 'See, society isn't that bad, at all. We're still good people at heart'. What happened is massively unfortunate, and understandably saddening for the pikeys, but is it worth fracturing permanently everything that is good about this place? What's more saddening is that Scoffa chose to bring this up three years later on even though he had been told in person by a former admin that what happened genuinely was a mistake. That old thread which is on page three sums up the situation that happened but those who took offence to a mistake still can't get over it was an error. As I posted earlier in this thread before receiving an aggressive tirade from Scoffa and other posters, this would only cause division and drag someones name through the mud. Well it has hasn't it. The people who chose to divulge information from a private forum have most likely lost trust and respect from those who post on that site. Not only that LindleyTerrier's name has been dragged through the mud for no reason. Perhaps Scoffa's intentions are more down to his criticism of the NSL?! Scoffa in his 'outing' post may have said he was drawing a line under it but in reality he was opening a can of worms. His actions have created a split now between the clique of the pikeys/millbridge guys and those who post on a private forum. No. Shush. That's the exact opposite of my post. This is further shit-stirring and back-biting. That's the opposite of what I'm saying. Don't use my quote to justify your continuation of a bad period for DATM. It's only by all agreeing to accept what happened was wrong, but then move on, that we'll have a chance of producing more moments that make you incredibly proud to play a (small) part in DATM's history.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 14:37:21 GMT 1
What's more saddening is that Scoffa chose to bring this up three years later on even though he had been told in person by a former admin that what happened genuinely was a mistake. That old thread which is on page three sums up the situation that happened but those who took offence to a mistake still can't get over it was an error. As I posted earlier in this thread before receiving an aggressive tirade from Scoffa and other posters, this would only cause division and drag someones name through the mud. Well it has hasn't it. The people who chose to divulge information from a private forum have most likely lost trust and respect from those who post on that site. Not only that LindleyTerrier's name has been dragged through the mud for no reason. Perhaps Scoffa's intentions are more down to his criticism of the NSL?! Scoffa in his 'outing' post may have said he was drawing a line under it but in reality he was opening a can of worms. His actions have created a split now between the clique of the pikeys/millbridge guys and those who post on a private forum. No. Shush. That's the exact opposite of my post. This is further shit-stirring and back-biting. That's the opposite of what I'm saying. Don't use my quote to justify your continuation of a bad period for DATM. It's only by all agreeing to accept what happened was wrong, but then move on, that we'll have a chance of producing more moments that make you incredibly proud to play a (small) part in DATM's history. I understood your point but it takes both sides to move on. Sadly I fear that the one side who failed to move on from this has created a long standing fraction between two sets of people. It's not shit-stirring it's a fact. The shit stirring started when this thread was created. I'm of your stance but it will take the same side who opened the fraction to apologise to people for smearing their names.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 14:40:03 GMT 1
What's more saddening is that Scoffa chose to bring this up three years later on even though he had been told in person by a former admin that what happened genuinely was a mistake. That old thread which is on page three sums up the situation that happened but those who took offence to a mistake still can't get over it was an error. As I posted earlier in this thread before receiving an aggressive tirade from Scoffa and other posters, this would only cause division and drag someones name through the mud. Well it has hasn't it. The people who chose to divulge information from a private forum have most likely lost trust and respect from those who post on that site. Not only that LindleyTerrier's name has been dragged through the mud for no reason. Perhaps Scoffa's intentions are more down to his criticism of the NSL?! Scoffa in his 'outing' post may have said he was drawing a line under it but in reality he was opening a can of worms. His actions have created a split now between the clique of the pikeys/millbridge guys and those who post on a private forum. No. Shush. That's the exact opposite of my post. This is further shit-stirring and back-biting. That's the opposite of what I'm saying. Don't use my quote to justify your continuation of a bad period for DATM. It's only by all agreeing to accept what happened was wrong, but then move on, that we'll have a chance of producing more moments that make you incredibly proud to play a (small) part in DATM's history. i dont think Datm will be spoilt mate,after all, the power mad admins who did it arent here to use us as there play things any more,,
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