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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 14:41:17 GMT 1
Where's Geoff when you need him?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 14:42:11 GMT 1
As I suspected the naming and shaming as done nothing but re-open the can of worms. Surely a more constructive angle would be to appeal to one of the several whizzkids on here to try and retrieve the said section rather than trying to cast further mud. I have every sympaythy with those that have lost their content but don't see anything new here except to restart the argument by posting new information that can't be proved. It's unfortunate but apparently deleting is a hell of a lot easier than retrieving and we've already been informed on more than one occasion by the powers that be that it is gone forever....Although there is one person we haven't pleaded with yet.....Has anyone got Steve Jobs number !!! A Ouija board might be more useful than a phone number!?
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Post by roberttownblue on Nov 24, 2014 14:44:38 GMT 1
I'm not here to take sides, join cliques or stir shit. I'm here to remind people how fucking brilliant this board is when we're all onside. Seriously, some of my most proud moments following Town have come about solely because of DATM: the season tickets for disadvantaged kids in the century season, the Pilks 'Believe' banner, the OT Play off tickets for youngsters and countless sponsorship requests. It's this board more than anything else that makes me go 'See, society isn't that bad, at all. We're still good people at heart'. What happened is massively unfortunate, and understandably saddening for the pikeys, but is it worth fracturing permanently everything that is good about this place? Unfortunately what's done is done, and what should have been done 3 years ago wasn't and it's too late to change anything now. So yes I agree lets move on but I will always try to correct any facts that I know for certain to be wrong and that goes for this thread as well as any other.
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Post by roberttownblue on Nov 24, 2014 14:45:15 GMT 1
Here's a simple way of sorting things out. Why don't the pikeys create their own proboards site? Job sorted. It'll stop the bitching How would that resolve the cause of the problem? It's not bitching anyway...it's a constructive, hearty discussion...nobody's taking offence to anything that's been said, and if they do they need to grow up and quickly. It doesn't stop what happened from being malicious at worst, and incompetent at best. But at least this unveiling brings things nearer closure. My therapist will be pleased Ooops I pressed like
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 14:49:02 GMT 1
and The Pikeys won the world datm canalside HTFC bowling trophy( well i did, and Tony got a couple of points)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 14:55:24 GMT 1
No. Shush. That's the exact opposite of my post. This is further shit-stirring and back-biting. That's the opposite of what I'm saying. Don't use my quote to justify your continuation of a bad period for DATM. It's only by all agreeing to accept what happened was wrong, but then move on, that we'll have a chance of producing more moments that make you incredibly proud to play a (small) part in DATM's history. i dont think Datm will be spoilt mate,after all, the power mad admins who did it arent here to use us as there play things any more,, Funny thing opinions. I always thought the era of Bolton, Lindley, TA, HRN, Pomps and VP as admins was the best era of DATM. More debate and a lot less squabbling (although being top 6 in L1 all the time helped with said squabbling). It was the previous admins to those who were power mad and banned people for the smallest things.
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Post by terrierdaz on Nov 24, 2014 14:58:12 GMT 1
No. Shush. That's the exact opposite of my post. This is further shit-stirring and back-biting. That's the opposite of what I'm saying. Don't use my quote to justify your continuation of a bad period for DATM. It's only by all agreeing to accept what happened was wrong, but then move on, that we'll have a chance of producing more moments that make you incredibly proud to play a (small) part in DATM's history. I understood your point but it takes both sides to move on. Sadly I fear that the one side who failed to move on from this has created a long standing fraction between two sets of people. It's not shit-stirring it's a fact. The shit stirring started when this thread was created. I'm of your stance but it will take the same side who opened the fraction to apologise to people for smearing their names. You have made your feelings quite clear... now move on I let this thread run as I believed that after 3 years it was about time people finally knew what had happened, also as a way of showing how this forum has moved on for the better. I and the other Admins do not often get personally involved in discussions of this nature , but on this occasion I have, due to being a PIKEY. I am aware of the Down With The Mac site and each to their own is my philosophy, needless to say some of the vile content on there would be removed from here and posters banned , some of it is bordering on illegal and common decency is completely absent. So its now time to move on and play nicely.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 15:01:40 GMT 1
I understood your point but it takes both sides to move on. Sadly I fear that the one side who failed to move on from this has created a long standing fraction between two sets of people. It's not shit-stirring it's a fact. The shit stirring started when this thread was created. I'm of your stance but it will take the same side who opened the fraction to apologise to people for smearing their names. You have made your feelings quite clear... now move on I let this thread run as I believed that after 3 years it was about time people finally knew what had happened, also as a way of showing how this forum has moved on for the better. I and the other Admins do not often get personally involved in discussions of this nature , but on this occasion I have, due to being a PIKEY. I am aware of the Down With The Mac site and each to their own is my philosophy, needless to say some of the vile content on there would be removed from here and posters banned , some of it is bordering on illegal and common decency is completely absent. So its now time to move on and play nicely. In what way am I not playing nicely? Everything I have said is of reasoned debate and fact. Nowhere have I personally attacked anyone. Surely I can freely retort on this thread like any other? Edit: If you have any issue with what I have posted then kindly send me a PM on what you have taken issue with.
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Post by terrierdaz on Nov 24, 2014 15:02:47 GMT 1
The play nicely was aimed at everyone ... not just you !
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 15:03:47 GMT 1
The play nicely was aimed at everyone ... not just you ! Apologies on my part then. However, you did quote me and told me to move on so I hope you understand why I took it that way
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Post by AndySk on Nov 24, 2014 15:05:40 GMT 1
So the whole point was to name and shame. Its been done, its Terry (summat everyone knew 3 years ago) so whats the point in the thread still going. All its gonna do is carry on causing a bigger rift between certain fans. Cant we just lock it and get back to asking what does Ross Wilson do?
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Post by roberttownblue on Nov 24, 2014 15:06:28 GMT 1
and The Pikeys won the world datm canalside HTFC bowling trophy( well i did, and Tony got a couple of points) Didn't like this one
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Post by terrierdaz on Nov 24, 2014 15:06:20 GMT 1
No. Shush. That's the exact opposite of my post. This is further shit-stirring and back-biting. That's the opposite of what I'm saying. Don't use my quote to justify your continuation of a bad period for DATM. It's only by all agreeing to accept what happened was wrong, but then move on, that we'll have a chance of producing more moments that make you incredibly proud to play a (small) part in DATM's history. i dont think Datm will be spoilt mate,after all, the power mad admins who did it arent here to use us as there play things any more,, Nope Diggers ... you are my plaything.......
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Post by mids on Nov 24, 2014 15:13:00 GMT 1
i dont think Datm will be spoilt mate,after all, the power mad admins who did it arent here to use us as there play things any more,, Funny thing opinions. I always thought the era of Bolton, Lindley, TA, HRN, Pomps and VP as admins was the best era of DATM. More debate and a lot less squabbling (although being top 6 in L1 all the time helped with said squabbling). It was the previous admins to those who were power mad and banned people for the smallest things. Who were these previous admins you refer to who were somehow more power mad than the 6 you refer to? FWIW I quite enjoyed the 'Geoff days'...some reasoned discussions then
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Post by roberttownblue on Nov 24, 2014 15:17:18 GMT 1
I'm not here to take sides, join cliques or stir shit. I'm here to remind people how fucking brilliant this board is when we're all onside. Seriously, some of my most proud moments following Town have come about solely because of DATM: the season tickets for disadvantaged kids in the century season, the Pilks 'Believe' banner, the OT Play off tickets for youngsters and countless sponsorship requests. It's this board more than anything else that makes me go 'See, society isn't that bad, at all. We're still good people at heart'. What happened is massively unfortunate, and understandably saddening for the pikeys, but is it worth fracturing permanently everything that is good about this place? What's more saddening is that Scoffa chose to bring this up three years later on even though he had been told in person by a former admin that what happened genuinely was a mistake. That old thread which is on page three sums up the situation that happened but those who took offence to a mistake still can't get over it was an error. As I posted earlier in this thread before receiving an aggressive tirade from Scoffa and other posters, this would only cause division and drag someones name through the mud. Well it has hasn't it. The people who chose to divulge information from a private forum have most likely lost trust and respect from those who post on that site. Not only that LindleyTerrier's name has been dragged through the mud for no reason. Perhaps Scoffa's intentions are more down to his criticism of the NSL?! Scoffa in his 'outing' post may have said he was drawing a line under it but in reality he was opening a can of worms. His actions have created a split now between the clique of the pikeys/millbridge guys and those who post on a private forum. Clique . . . "a party of persons; a small set, especially one associating for exclusivity,"
Millbridge . . . open to anybody who wants to travel with us
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 15:19:09 GMT 1
I understood your point but it takes both sides to move on. Sadly I fear that the one side who failed to move on from this has created a long standing fraction between two sets of people. It's not shit-stirring it's a fact. The shit stirring started when this thread was created. I'm of your stance but it will take the same side who opened the fraction to apologise to people for smearing their names. You have made your feelings quite clear... now move on I let this thread run as I believed that after 3 years it was about time people finally knew what had happened, also as a way of showing how this forum has moved on for the better. I and the other Admins do not often get personally involved in discussions of this nature , but on this occasion I have, due to being a PIKEY. I am aware of the Down With The Mac site and each to their own is my philosophy, needless to say some of the vile content on there would be removed from here and posters banned , some of it is bordering on illegal and common decency is completely absent.So its now time to move on and play nicely. ... ... ... ... wow
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Post by Novakaine on Nov 24, 2014 15:20:29 GMT 1
Damn, I was certain it was Reverend Green in the Library with the rope.
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Post by terrierdaz on Nov 24, 2014 15:26:33 GMT 1
You have made your feelings quite clear... now move on I let this thread run as I believed that after 3 years it was about time people finally knew what had happened, also as a way of showing how this forum has moved on for the better. I and the other Admins do not often get personally involved in discussions of this nature , but on this occasion I have, due to being a PIKEY. I am aware of the Down With The Mac site and each to their own is my philosophy, needless to say some of the vile content on there would be removed from here and posters banned , some of it is bordering on illegal and common decency is completely absent.So its now time to move on and play nicely. ... ... ... ... wow Would have expected a far more reasoned response from you But again you are on here looking for a reaction TBH I really couldn't give a shit what goes on there as I said each to their own I really couldn't give a shit about 90% of things in life especially when it involves a keyboard , someone sitting behind it and typing guff ( the typing guff is not aimed personally at you .... its a general statement which if the cap fits ... anyone can wear it)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 15:33:09 GMT 1
Would have expected a far more reasoned response from you But again you are on here looking for a reaction TBH I really couldn't give a shit what goes on there as I said each to their own I really couldn't give a shit about 90% of things in life especially when it involves a keyboard , someone sitting behind it and typing guff ( the typing guff is not aimed personally at you .... its a general statement which if the cap fits ... anyone can wear it) Do you not think that what you wrote there is a little bit dramatic?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 15:33:37 GMT 1
I understood your point but it takes both sides to move on. Sadly I fear that the one side who failed to move on from this has created a long standing fraction between two sets of people. It's not shit-stirring it's a fact. The shit stirring started when this thread was created. I'm of your stance but it will take the same side who opened the fraction to apologise to people for smearing their names. You have made your feelings quite clear... now move on I let this thread run as I believed that after 3 years it was about time people finally knew what had happened, also as a way of showing how this forum has moved on for the better. I and the other Admins do not often get personally involved in discussions of this nature , but on this occasion I have, due to being a PIKEY. I am aware of the Down With The Mac site and each to their own is my philosophy, needless to say some of the vile content on there would be removed from here and posters banned , some of it is bordering on illegal and common decency is completely absent.So its now time to move on and play nicely. This will be my last post on here because I imagine I will either be banned or more than likely delete my account. I do take offence to the paragraph in bold. As a recentish member of DWTW there are things that won't appear on this site such as swear words and a lot of things taken in jest etc. But that's because it is a private board for like minded Town fans rather than some of the mud slinging that has appeared over time. You, I believe, are not a member of that site. So how would you know what is posted there. Have you seen every thread, the copious amounts of football debate which has been lacking here for a while. No - you are chosing to attack a community of football fans who also post on here. You've tried to take the moral high ground telling us to move on yet saying this set of people have a lack of common decency. Well some of these people are my friends in 'real-life' and have much more common decency then things I've seen on here from certain posters. You've also brought in that you're a pikey. Not doing the whole situation of cliques any good?! Are you slagging said forum off and calling those posters 'vile' because you aren't a member? I'd genuinely love to know why you've posted that and how you can continue in position as an admin when having such derision for people who post on this board. I doubt I'll get a reply. This whole thread has created a division that won't be closed. As soon as it started, it signaled a death of DATM in my eyes. A crying shame really as this is a place I've met friends and enjoyed terrific and shite days following the club I love.
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Post by Zopa64 on Nov 24, 2014 15:54:50 GMT 1
I understood your point but it takes both sides to move on. Sadly I fear that the one side who failed to move on from this has created a long standing fraction between two sets of people. It's not shit-stirring it's a fact. The shit stirring started when this thread was created. I'm of your stance but it will take the same side who opened the fraction to apologise to people for smearing their names. You have made your feelings quite clear... now move on I let this thread run as I believed that after 3 years it was about time people finally knew what had happened, also as a way of showing how this forum has moved on for the better. I and the other Admins do not often get personally involved in discussions of this nature , but on this occasion I have, due to being a PIKEY. I am aware of the Down With The Mac site and each to their own is my philosophy, needless to say some of the vile content on there would be removed from here and posters banned , some of it is bordering on illegal and common decency is completely absent. So its now time to move on and play nicely. Nothing like going over the top! DWTM is a site for people having a laugh and a joke with plenty of good football debate from sensible people thrown in. Obviously you ignored those threads when scouring the forum. What I really want to know is how many of you on here felt left out when you realised there was a group you weren't invited to!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 15:59:08 GMT 1
Well, that escalated quickly. Really, that got out of hand fast...
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Post by bluedogs, Esq. on Nov 24, 2014 16:01:28 GMT 1
You have made your feelings quite clear... now move on I let this thread run as I believed that after 3 years it was about time people finally knew what had happened, also as a way of showing how this forum has moved on for the better. I and the other Admins do not often get personally involved in discussions of this nature , but on this occasion I have, due to being a PIKEY. I am aware of the Down With The Mac site and each to their own is my philosophy, needless to say some of the vile content on there would be removed from here and posters banned , some of it is bordering on illegal and common decency is completely absent. So its now time to move on and play nicely. Nothing like going over the top! DWTM is a site for people having a laugh and a joke with plenty of good football debate from sensible people thrown in.Obviously you ignored those threads when scouring the forum. What I really want to know is how many of you on here felt left out when you realised there was a group you weren't invited to! put a link up let us see for our self's
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Post by terrierdaz on Nov 24, 2014 16:03:27 GMT 1
Here is my reply
I dont care about your feelings , who your friends are , whatever
The only reason I am an admin on here is to help maintain the site
I am prepared to step down if the posters want me to , the posters of DATM that is
I am not a member of the DWTM forum , and have no wish to be , my life is busy enough already.
As for deleting your account how sad....
You may now have a small insight to how the Pikeys felt when there whole history was deleted ,
Yes I have made a comment about DWTM , but as for attacking it ... grow up!
As I said earlier quite prepared to step down from here if you lot want it!
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Nov 24, 2014 16:06:06 GMT 1
The person that egged on Terry (ex admin) to delete the Pikey Board is ex admin Lindley Terrier Read more: downatthemac.proboards.com/thread/94357/big-brother-watching-move?page=6#ixzz3JzrWoxy6So IF 'Terry' was egged on to delete the board, how was it a 'mistake'? Lindley assured me by PM at the time that Terry had undertaken to delete the board without any knowledge or approval of other admins. IF he did egg on 'Terry', what he PMd me at the time can't have been the truth. If it was a 'mistake', why laugh about it three years later knowing that a lot of people were very upset about it? We were assured at the time that 'Terry' was the admins real name but that none of the other admins knew him. Turns out that some may have known that his name was actually Luke?! So why are we still so bothered three years later? Because we have just found out more and it's apparent that we were lied to and some admins knew more about it than they claimed at the time. In short, an old wound has been reopened. My view at the time was that the board was maliciously deleted and this has now been further supported. If you didn't contribute to the board and didn't enjoy reading it, you won't understand the strength of feeling.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 16:09:01 GMT 1
The only reason I am an admin on here is to help maintain the site That is exactly the reason that the admins at the time were there too.
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Nov 24, 2014 16:09:04 GMT 1
From a totally independent view of neither being a pikey or DWTM member - "I am aware of the Down With The Mac site and each to their own is my philosophy, needless to say some of the vile content on there would be removed from here and posters banned , some of it is bordering on illegal and common decency is completely absent." Read more: downatthemac.proboards.com/thread/94357/big-brother-watching-move?page=6#ixzz3JzzDtSekThe above statement is IMO more than a comment and more of an attack - If similar had been said about the pikeys then the reaction on here would be mindblowing. IMO the can of worms should never have been reopened - What good could have possibly come from it?
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Post by Sio on Nov 24, 2014 16:13:26 GMT 1
I understood your point but it takes both sides to move on. Sadly I fear that the one side who failed to move on from this has created a long standing fraction between two sets of people. It's not shit-stirring it's a fact. The shit stirring started when this thread was created. I'm of your stance but it will take the same side who opened the fraction to apologise to people for smearing their names. You have made your feelings quite clear... now move on I let this thread run as I believed that after 3 years it was about time people finally knew what had happened, also as a way of showing how this forum has moved on for the better. I and the other Admins do not often get personally involved in discussions of this nature , but on this occasion I have, due to being a PIKEY. I am aware of the Down With The Mac site and each to their own is my philosophy, needless to say some of the vile content on there would be removed from here and posters banned , some of it is bordering on illegal and common decency is completely absent.So its now time to move on and play nicely. I'm looking at you Venezuelan Pete
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Post by AndySk on Nov 24, 2014 16:17:53 GMT 1
C'mon time to lock this thread innit? No mores gonna be said before stuff starts getting personal. Mistakes were made, stuffs been said, we're all town fans and theres more important shit in life
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