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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2014 16:18:17 GMT 1
I'm probably going to get shot down for having such a bold opinion but can someone explain to me what he brought to the match today? IMO not much.
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Post by impact on Nov 22, 2014 16:20:31 GMT 1
In fairness to him it's hard having balls smashed in his direction with none of our players anywhere near him.
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Nov 22, 2014 16:24:06 GMT 1
A couple of late blocks on the line from their corner. A sideways pass or 2 when well placed from maybe being the matchwinner had his teammate chosen to pass.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Nov 22, 2014 16:25:34 GMT 1
He did ok today ... Never looked like scoring though
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Post by 3Pipe on Nov 22, 2014 16:27:04 GMT 1
Almost pulled off the ruptured ballsack manoeuvre.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Nov 22, 2014 16:29:28 GMT 1
most of the game spent very much on his own..nobody for miles.. we were at home, its disappointing because you know powell would have taken a draw at the start...trying to grab something late on was what the last man tried now and again..4 times in the first half the ball broke free on the edge of their box, nobody there??? from 3-0 against forest to a couple of defeats and we shit ourselves and look to keep a game tight???
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Post by impact on Nov 22, 2014 16:30:01 GMT 1
However he could and probably should have been sent off today for a petulant kick out.
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Post by kennyk2 on Nov 22, 2014 16:40:07 GMT 1
Good! He needs to carry on playing like this for a while - then we might be able to afford him.
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Post by Colt Seavers on Nov 22, 2014 16:52:41 GMT 1
He has made a massive difference since he arrived and a lot of his job is to take the shit from giant centre halves that Wells physically can't.
Had we played the correct formation from the off today we may very well have been applauding a great performance against Loovens and Lees enabling Wells to do his job.
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Nov 22, 2014 16:56:37 GMT 1
His first touch of the ball was the 44th minute.
Cleverly drifted off once to the back stick to get a header in from a Dixon cross but it was way over.
He is a wily old fox, has been instrumental in our turnaround but today he should have been sent off.
He kicked Lees on purpose THREE times.
A poor, poor day.
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Nov 22, 2014 16:58:53 GMT 1
Imagine if we had started 4-4-2 and lost the game - where exactly would that put your argument Colt?
IMO Weds looked the more likely side once Wells came on and we were a debatable penalty decision away from losing when playing your preferred formation.
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Nov 22, 2014 17:04:36 GMT 1
I'm probably going to get shot down for having such a bold opinion but can someone explain to me what he brought to the match today? IMO not much. I think he brings a lot more to the role than Wells, Ward, Stead or Paterson do when they have tried to play the role. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2014 17:11:14 GMT 1
Still think he had a relatively poor game today and actually agree he could well have walked for the tackles on Lee's.Good job ref. didn't see them.Got to sat though he is wily git.
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Post by Yesss on Nov 22, 2014 17:28:30 GMT 1
He did ok to say he got hardly any service
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Post by terrierpark on Nov 22, 2014 17:54:46 GMT 1
Imagine if we had started 4-4-2 and lost the game - where exactly would that put your argument Colt? IMO Weds looked the more likely side once Wells came on and we were a debatable penalty decision away from losing when playing your preferred formation. Am sorry but Holt was brought in precisely because Wells was struggling on his own, and not to play as a sole striker. You cant say what if we had lost playing that formation what then? The answer would be that the midfield and defence is not strong enough then obviously because Holt is not mobile /fast enough to play as a sole striker and Wells is not strong enough. How about the club should go out and get one who is if thats how we want to go , its not bloody rocket science is it and while were at it why loan out every other viable striking option we have when were not exactly blessed in that department? |
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Nov 22, 2014 17:58:42 GMT 1
Holt in the 4-3-3 has transformed our season particularly away from home. We couldn't cope playing 4-4-2 at Derby. We obviously did at home v Forest.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2014 17:59:56 GMT 1
Better than wells upfront on his Todd
Holt did the best he could today,we fucked up with the formation it's as simple as that.any points a good point in the division
A good run in January to put some distance between the bottom is going to be crucial. Going to be lots of teams in the mix this time
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Nov 22, 2014 18:00:22 GMT 1
Thought today was his poorest in a Town shirt. Held absolutely nothing up in the first half and offered no link up play. Just tried to con free kicks and sat on his arse Alan Lee esk
Second half he was more involved but for me it was a 4 out of ten effort today
Been good overall since he's joined on loan but today wasn't near the level for a player on his wages IMO
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Nov 22, 2014 18:02:00 GMT 1
Imagine if we had started 4-4-2 and lost the game - where exactly would that put your argument Colt? IMO Weds looked the more likely side once Wells came on and we were a debatable penalty decision away from losing when playing your preferred formation. Am sorry but Holt was brought in precisely because Wells was struggling on his own, and not to play as a sole striker. You cant say what if we had lost playing that formation what then? The answer would be that the midfield and defence is not strong enough then obviously because Holt is not mobile /fast enough to play as a sole striker and Wells is not strong enough. How about the club should go out and get one who is if thats how we want to go , its not bloody rocket science is it and while were at it why loan out every other viable striking option we have when were not exactly blessed in that department? So he was brought in not to play as a sole striker ? You must have a device linked up to Powells brain.. Have you thought of patenting it .. Whilst I too would have started Wells and Holt I was also critical of Powell for starting both of them at Derby.. It's a tough job this football manager lark |
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Post by ritchie on Nov 22, 2014 18:06:21 GMT 1
He's a player who can play upfront on his own at tough away games and a player who can play with a partner and knock on balls for a pacy goalscorer. perfect for us.
BUT he's much more effective when he's played with that quick partner....only question of powell so far is him not playing nakhi and holt at home. completely understand it against the very top teams or away games but we should have taken it to wendies today. Robins would have been CRUCIFIED for playing one up top today - and I'm not one of the people who say 1 up top is necessarily defensive...but it is if its not using narrow winger who support the striker... we played wide wingers with holt on his own
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Nov 22, 2014 18:11:59 GMT 1
He was poor today.
Thought we got lucky tbh.
Looked much better when Wells came on.
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Post by mickydombat on Nov 22, 2014 18:38:18 GMT 1
Poor! He was outstanding, won every header , chased across the line all first half, bullied their defence, created room fro Nakhi to miss two sitters , cleared two off the line, lead the line on his own. What game do some of you watch? Just think , without him what would the micfield and defenders do?
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Post by mickydombat on Nov 22, 2014 18:39:24 GMT 1
ok for and midfield typo errors
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Nov 22, 2014 18:48:06 GMT 1
Where as it might look as he was poor today but I don't think he was, he won a load of headers, which he knocked down but no one was near him supporting him, to collect the knock downs. My only complaint is that he always looks for free kicks when he ight be better served trying to get on with the job in hand.
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Post by mickydombat on Nov 22, 2014 18:50:51 GMT 1
Art this is a world record I agree with you again.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2014 18:51:50 GMT 1
Imagine if we had started 4-4-2 and lost the game - where exactly would that put your argument Colt? IMO Weds looked the more likely side once Wells came on and we were a debatable penalty decision away from losing when playing your preferred formation. You cant say what if we had lost playing that formation what then? The answer would be that the midfield and defence is not strong enough then obviously because Holt is not mobile /fast enough to play as a sole striker and Wells is not strong enough. How about the club should go out and get one who is if thats how we want to go , its not bloody rocket science is it and while were at it why loan out every other viable striking option we have when were not exactly blessed in that department? That's a fact, is it? I'd say he was brought in to play either role, as and when Powell saw fit. |
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Nov 22, 2014 22:26:20 GMT 1
How a man who did not touch it until 44 mins in (and promptly fell over) had a good game i will never know.
Their backline were woeful on the ball and he never harried. He walked the line urging our midfield to move up.
The one near the line just hit him.
He kicked Lees on the floor, held out his hand to help him up and then kicked him again!
10 mins later he leapt and purposely kicked a leg backwards into Lees stomach (who went down).
Should have been off twice.
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Post by 3Pipe on Nov 22, 2014 22:34:12 GMT 1
Cleverly drifted off once to the back stick to get a header in from a Dixon cross but it was way over. Thought he was on loan at Villa? |
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Nov 22, 2014 23:49:53 GMT 1
Cleverly drifted off once to the back stick to get a header in from a Dixon cross but it was way over. Thought he was on loan at Villa? Or fighting Bellew later  |
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Post by Colt Seavers on Nov 22, 2014 23:51:08 GMT 1
Imagine if we had started 4-4-2 and lost the game - where exactly would that put your argument Colt? IMO Weds looked the more likely side once Wells came on and we were a debatable penalty decision away from losing when playing your preferred formation. It would put my argument the same as it was against Derby. Started with our best XI, beaten by a better team, simple and a lot easier to accept. |
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