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Post by Chips Longhorn on Nov 22, 2014 22:40:39 GMT 1
So you would honestly drop someone for him ? No. I'm looking forward to hammills return anyway. Assists are assists, they create goals. You can't argue with that. You put ten balls in to Ronaldo you might get seven assists. You put ten balls in to Jon Newby you might get two.. Assists are a bit....... deceptive isnt the word but you know what i mean ? .. in my opinion . If Scannell and Bunn keep the levels up of the last ten games I don't see a role for either Ward or Hammill TBH ... But Bunn is a kid and Scanz is unpredictable so it may be a different story in a month
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Post by Porrohman on Nov 22, 2014 22:42:40 GMT 1
Nick - what are you on about? From a good HP He's always buying clothes and shoes . The bastard, how dare he spend his own money on what he wants. Ward out !!! Sent from my GT-I9505 using proboards
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Post by Thwarting Dog on Nov 22, 2014 22:49:14 GMT 1
Haha, they were both shite today, Bunn was shite at Fulham also. Scanz has no finish product. Ward and Wells should have started today. We would have arsed them.
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Post by 3Pipe on Nov 22, 2014 23:08:36 GMT 1
No. I'm looking forward to hammills return anyway. Assists are assists, they create goals. You can't argue with that. You put ten balls in to Ronaldo you might get seven assists. You put ten balls in to Jon Newby you might get two.. Assists are a bit....... deceptive isnt the word but you know what i mean ? .. in my opinion . If Scannell and Bunn keep the levels up of the last ten games I don't see a role for either Ward or Hammill TBH ... But Bunn is a kid and Scanz is unpredictable so it may be a different story in a month Completely agree with the allusion to form and whilst it's not incorrect what you say about assists it is complicating what is a simple concept. He created the second most goals last season if my stats are correct. That is unarguable. I was really disappointed with bunn today (he neither looked like a striker or a winger on today's showing) but as you say he's still young. I'm sure both hammill and ward will have their parts to play this season. You need 4 decent wide players in your squad and I'd argue we have 5 with Lolley.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2014 23:16:09 GMT 1
You put ten balls in to Ronaldo you might get seven assists. You put ten balls in to Jon Newby you might get two.. Assists are a bit....... deceptive isnt the word but you know what i mean ? .. in my opinion . If Scannell and Bunn keep the levels up of the last ten games I don't see a role for either Ward or Hammill TBH ... But Bunn is a kid and Scanz is unpredictable so it may be a different story in a month Completely agree with the allusion to form and whilst it's not incorrect what you say about assists it is complicating what is a simple concept. He created the second most goals last season if my stats are correct. That is unarguable. I was really disappointed with bunn today (he neither looked like a striker or a winger on today's showing) but as you say he's still young. I'm sure both hammill and ward will have their parts to play this season. You need 4 decent wide players in your squad and I'd argue we have 5 with Lolley. I don't think so, Pipes. Ted's only shedding more light on statistics - they can be misleading and he gives a very simple example of how. For example - if football were an exact science then Kevin Kilbane would be deemed one of the greatest footballers who ever lived with the number of international caps he has.
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Post by 3Pipe on Nov 22, 2014 23:25:58 GMT 1
Completely agree with the allusion to form and whilst it's not incorrect what you say about assists it is complicating what is a simple concept. He created the second most goals last season if my stats are correct. That is unarguable. I was really disappointed with bunn today (he neither looked like a striker or a winger on today's showing) but as you say he's still young. I'm sure both hammill and ward will have their parts to play this season. You need 4 decent wide players in your squad and I'd argue we have 5 with Lolley. I don't think so, Pipes. Ted's only shedding more light on statistics - they can be misleading and he gives a very simple example of how. For example - if football were an exact science then Kevin Kilbane would be deemed one of the greatest footballers who ever lived with the number of international caps he has. I'm in a simplistic mood Franky. I'm posting mostly from the toilet at a wine and cheese do, more boredom than illness but if I over think things it all goes a bit spinny.
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Post by htfc63 on Nov 23, 2014 15:33:49 GMT 1
Whilst I sympathise with Ward for being played out of position for a good many games he does not look to have the pace of Hamill or even Lolley who will soon come into contention. With Bunn and Scanell quite rightly preferred at present I feel it would be best all round if he moved on. He is still a young player who needs first team football and that`s unlikely to be with us. I heard Blackpool were after him and whilst he could be relegated with them he would get a game. We need to free up salaries for potential signings so Ward along with Stead, Patterson, Gobbern, Carrs, Crooks, Sinnot etc means we are more likely to be in a position to hang onto the likes of Holt and strengthen in defence.
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Post by Headless Chicken on Nov 23, 2014 16:18:04 GMT 1
He was anonymous yesterday and generally is as a winger.
As much as people said he was played out of position last season, I much prefer him as a striker or wide in a three.
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Post by rocky on Nov 23, 2014 16:34:24 GMT 1
Sorry Nick, that's just a shit post!
He's hardly played for ages & was on for the last 20 minutes yesterday & you're expecting a MOM performance.
Without even thinking about it, he set up Wells for what should have been the winner, won a header from one of their dangerous corners against their giants & chased the ball like mad when it went out for a throw with 30 seconds to try set up one last attack (I put that it in to show his commitment).
There would be lots more contributions he made, but hey Town only drew so let's blame a bit part player. Truly pathetic.
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Post by York Terrier on Nov 23, 2014 17:16:05 GMT 1
Difficult to play your way into form when you're not playing. Herbet It appears you have one rule for DW and another for SS
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Post by York Terrier on Nov 23, 2014 17:20:05 GMT 1
Sorry Nick, that's just a shit post! He's hardly played for ages & was on for the last 20 minutes yesterday & you're expecting a MOM performance. Without even thinking about it, he set up Wells for what should have been the winner, won a header from one of their dangerous corners against their giants & chased the ball like mad when it went out for a throw with 30 seconds to try set up one last attack (I put that it in to show his commitment). There would be lots more contributions he made, but hey Town only drew so let's blame a bit part player. Truly pathetic. You have hit the nail on the head he never thinks about it no brain no idea headless chicken
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Nov 23, 2014 17:28:11 GMT 1
Sorry Nick, that's just a shit post! He's hardly played for ages & was on for the last 20 minutes yesterday & you're expecting a MOM performance. Without even thinking about it, he set up Wells for what should have been the winner, won a header from one of their dangerous corners against their giants & chased the ball like mad when it went out for a throw with 30 seconds to try set up one last attack (I put that it in to show his commitment). There would be lots more contributions he made, but hey Town only drew so let's blame a bit part player. Truly pathetic. You have hit the nail on the head he never thinks about it no brain no idea headless chicken Pardon, do you know me, it's my opinion you cocky dick. He's absolutely woeful, shit. Don't you wonder why he never makes the first team starting line up.
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Post by 3Pipe on Nov 23, 2014 21:28:36 GMT 1
Difficult to play your way into form when you're not playing. Herbet It appears you have one rule for DW and another for SS Qué?
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Nov 23, 2014 21:40:15 GMT 1
Herbet       It appears you have one rule for DW and another for SS  Qué? I thought I was herbet . Confusion reigns down Berkshire way
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Post by 3Pipe on Nov 23, 2014 21:43:27 GMT 1
Has he misquoted me?
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Nov 23, 2014 21:47:52 GMT 1
The kid is on class A's so your guess is as good as mine
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Post by 3Pipe on Nov 23, 2014 21:54:34 GMT 1
Herbert is on the sherbet? I'll bet.
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Post by teddytheterrier on Nov 24, 2014 11:25:49 GMT 1
I just don't rate this bloke at all, all this crap about his assists last season, he does nothing, thoughts.... Clean ones please. Are we swappping him for Hanson in jan usury ? Was poor when he came on and people were slating wells for not passing the ball, I think of most people we're nahki and that situation you wouldn't pass to ward!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2014 0:26:30 GMT 1
So you would honestly drop someone for him ? I'm not having " assist stats " I think the human eye is the best way to judge a player.. and mine have seen enough to be honest Has a magnificent shot on him but seems to lack intelligence to make himself dangerous often enough for me. I'd give his 'off the ball' 9/20 on football manager. (Shooting= 16/20) Can't wait for Lolley and Hammill to come back.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2014 0:28:24 GMT 1
Haha, they were both shite today, Bunn was shite at Fulham also. Scanz has no finish product. Ward and Wells should have started today. We would have arsed them. Did you not see some of the balls he put into the box on Sat?
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Post by Thwarting Dog on Nov 26, 2014 0:44:10 GMT 1
Yes I saw them. Bloody awful crosses to nobody in particular. Would you not agree ?
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Nov 26, 2014 11:10:24 GMT 1
Haha, they were both shite today, Bunn was shite at Fulham also. Scanz has no finish product. Ward and Wells should have started today. We would have arsed them. Did you not see some of the balls he put into the box on Sat? I was a bit mystified by that comment as well. Set Wells up nicely for one of the chances he missed. A couple of cracking balls in to the box also. Constant threat.
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Post by Novakaine on Nov 26, 2014 11:25:19 GMT 1
So you would honestly drop someone for him ? I'm not having " assist stats " I think the human eye is the best way to judge a player.. and mine have seen enough to be honest Has a magnificent shot on him but seems to lack intelligence to make himself dangerous often enough for me. I'd give his 'off the ball' 9/20 on football manager. (Shooting= 16/20) Can't wait for Lolley and Hammill to come back. I haven't seen any stats but I would believe Danny Ward had twice as many shots at goal than any other Town player last season. And probably less than 10% of those were on target. He can hit em hard, mind. I remember thinking, if his accuracy was a little better, he could have notched up 20-30 goals.
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Post by impact on Nov 26, 2014 15:05:36 GMT 1
Haha, they were both shite today, Bunn was shite at Fulham also. Scanz has no finish product. Ward and Wells should have started today. We would have arsed them. Did you not see some of the balls he put into the box on Sat? I did. And there's a big difference between putting good balls into the box and a good cross. Scannell did the former. If someone is there it's a great cross, but it's an if. He rarely looks where our players are. One in particular on sat 2nd half we had 2 or 3 making a run to the 6 yard box and he pulled it back to no one on the penalty spot.
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Nov 26, 2014 15:37:59 GMT 1
Did you not see some of the balls he put into the box on Sat? I did. And there's a big difference between putting good balls into the box and a good cross. Scannell did the former. If someone is there it's a great cross, but it's an if. He rarely looks where our players are. One in particular on sat 2nd half we had 2 or 3 making a run to the 6 yard box and he pulled it back to no one on the penalty spot. Shearer's view was that he didn't want people to try to pick him out in the box, but put it in good areas and he would do the rest. Penalty spot in space was a good place to put it. 2 or 3 people making a run in to the 6 yard box might not be the best approach on their part. Having said that - all our wide players need to sharpen up in that department. Notice a lot of teams now get into what seems like good crossing positions and then turn back and try to work it round again, and then again .... Not sure that's the best approach to be honest.
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Nov 26, 2014 15:58:33 GMT 1
I did. And there's a big difference between putting good balls into the box and a good cross. Scannell did the former. If someone is there it's a great cross, but it's an if. He rarely looks where our players are. One in particular on sat 2nd half we had 2 or 3 making a run to the 6 yard box and he pulled it back to no one on the penalty spot. Shearer's view was that he didn't want people to try to pick him out in the box, but put it in good areas and he would do the rest. Penalty spot in space was a good place to put it. 2 or 3 people making a run in to the 6 yard box might not be the best approach on their part. Having said that - all our wide players need to sharpen up in that department. Notice a lot of teams now get into what seems like good crossing positions and then turn back and try to work it round again, and then again .... Not sure that's the best approach to be honest. If Smith had done that in the first half after the Butterfield perfect pass inside the fullback then Bunn would have been able to pick his spot. Sometimes the winger doesn't get the chance to look up before crossing it so I'm sure that attackers and wingers speak about where to put it. Earlier he drilled one across the six yard box away from the goalie and no-one was quick enough or anticipated it well enough so I won't blame him for trying a different pass later in the game. I also noticed Bunn or Holt take up this position regularly. Holt scored from there against Forest from a Scannell pass, Holt was also laying in wait there when Bunn chose to shoot from a tight angle in the secomnd half at Fulham. A pull back can often produce an easier attempt than some other crosses when defenders are close to their attacking opponents in the 6 yard box.
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Post by deadleg on Nov 26, 2014 16:22:40 GMT 1
Yeah, unless you have time and space (a rarity in and around the box) or truly world-class awareness you're looking to hit areas rather than players. No doubt Scannell still has plenty of room to improve in his delivery but on another day he'd have had an assist or two on Saturday for the balls he put in.
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Post by Novakaine on Nov 26, 2014 16:28:41 GMT 1
Doesn't Scannell have a thread?
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Post by teddytheterrier on Dec 9, 2014 19:41:42 GMT 1
Can see him leaving in January!
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Dec 9, 2014 19:55:32 GMT 1
Can see him leaving in January! Lee Clarks got him lined up I believe.
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