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Post by OldRastrickian on Nov 24, 2014 13:12:18 GMT 1
Several senior management personnel from the BBC have in recent times freely admitted to the Corporation's Left-wing bias..........I'm surprised there are people on here who would deny it.
On programmes such as Question Time, it is frequently so in your face that it would be laughable, were it not for the fact that it is a blatant abuse of the BBC's Charter. For years, on both TV/radio, too many interviews have given Labour/Libdem politicians an easy time, and Tories (and UKIP more recently) a much harder time. Even topical comedy shows seek to ridicule the Right (parties/politicians/policies) far more than the Left.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 13:16:40 GMT 1
Several senior management personnel from the BBC have in recent times freely admitted to the Corporation's Left-wing bias..........I'm surprised there are people on here who would deny it. On programmes such as Question Time, it is frequently so in your face that it would be laughable, were it not for the fact that it is a blatant abuse of the BBC's Charter. For years, on both TV/radio, too many interviews have given Labour/Libdem politicians an easy time, and Tories (and UKIP more recently) a much harder time. Even topical comedy shows seek to ridicule the Right (parties/politicians/policies) far more than the Left. always saw the Beeb as the governments (of the time) mouthpiece.. Don't really see anything different today to be honest.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Nov 24, 2014 13:36:34 GMT 1
Haha this is hilarious
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Post by bluedogs, Esq. on Nov 24, 2014 13:53:35 GMT 1
Several senior management personnel from the BBC have in recent times freely admitted to the Corporation's Left-wing bias..........I'm surprised there are people on here who would deny it. On programmes such as Question Time, it is frequently so in your face that it would be laughable, were it not for the fact that it is a blatant abuse of the BBC's Charter. For years, on both TV/radio, too many interviews have given Labour/Libdem politicians an easy time, and Tories (and UKIP more recently) a much harder time. Even topical comedy shows seek to ridicule the Right (parties/politicians/policies) far more than the Left. always saw the Beeb as the governments (of the time) mouthpiece.. Don't really see anything different today to be honest. They should do a remake of spitting images I am sure they could show you a difference
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Post by galpharm2400 on Nov 24, 2014 13:58:57 GMT 1
we are now being accused of 'patronising' African countries with the Band Aid Single??? the accusers are all living in this country??? I guess that sending money and medical staff to a country where they eat long dead bats and are still doing so and massive areas have no running water or proper sanitation, may also been seen as rather condescending??? Keeping people from these areas from travelling has been branded racist and against their human rights? Australia has taken the most stick but has provided almost as much aid in money and people as us whilst up to Friday Russia and China had provided virtually nothing.. Yet we still pick a stupid, pointless argument to beat ourselves up with...they cannot help themselves, there I said it because its true. Whatever beliefs you hold about how the West has dealt with Africa over the past few hundred years or if you believe they have continued to struggle because of their internal tribal disputes and the rule of the gun over the rule of any good laws, its immaterial at this moment, as it was the last time band aid raised some money. Geldorf said it was a crap song last time but it was thrown together as a vehicle to make money, not to be assessed as a great record and this time its even worse but charity songs usually are. Geldorf even said just buy it, buy a few and then wipe them off your players, if the architect of the single says that, why are miserable bastards picking at it??? because its fashionable and right on to do so...its a bloody good job beckham or other high profile players haven't got involved in fund raising, they would be accused of further soiling the game of professional football with racial stereotyping and being racially 'condescending' (which appears to be a new found offence!!!!)
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Nov 24, 2014 14:04:46 GMT 1
Not sure what Band Aid has to do with Dave Whelan ... Two Geldof threads already on this board
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Nov 24, 2014 14:20:08 GMT 1
Not sure what Band Aid has to do with Dave Whelan ... Two Geldof threads already on this board It's getting a free for all on here now, what with the 'looney left' and the 'little Hitlers' representing the right. I tell you summat, you can pick out the lefties and the socialists a mile off (I consider myself firmly in this camp) from the right wing Thatcherites.
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Post by townatheart on Nov 24, 2014 15:15:21 GMT 1
Not sure what Band Aid has to do with Dave Whelan ... Two Geldof threads already on this board It's getting a free for all on here now, what with the 'looney left' and the 'little Hitlers' representing the right. I tell you summat, you can pick out the lefties and the socialists a mile off (I consider myself firmly in this camp) from the right wing Thatcherites. good to see someone willing to their camps flag in honesty as for me, I prefer sitting on the fence in the middle, that way I can be a proper grumpy old man and disagree with everybody
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Post by galpharm2400 on Nov 24, 2014 15:23:43 GMT 1
the media have added 'racially or nationally condescending' to the offences you can now commit..feeling sorry will be next and then wanting to go and help will be 'racially aggravated caring'....
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Post by hypotenuse on Nov 24, 2014 17:40:11 GMT 1
I am quite comfortable with owning up to being left wing (further to the left than Labour but not as far as Kim Jong-un) My favourite comment of the day is the one about The Sun being left wing - was it Otium who said it? Right of centre since 1974 and that includes support for Blair who was at least as right wing as Cameron.
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Post by Captainslapper on Nov 24, 2014 17:44:39 GMT 1
Mine is that the BBC and the EU are right wing! lol
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Post by hypotenuse on Nov 24, 2014 18:07:21 GMT 1
Even though the BBC gives approx 50 times as much air time to UKIP than the Greens and the EU central bank forced right wing austerity politics on Greece, Spain and Italy.
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Post by philincalifornia on Nov 24, 2014 18:14:27 GMT 1
Mine is that the BBC and the EU are right wing! lol In some ways they are though Slaps. Phony Socialism utilizes capitalist systems while pretending they hate them and then to compound it, they steal money via taxation to pay for their f**king incompetence. Most rich capitalist people around where I live go around telling everybody they're liberal or lefties. They've gravitated from being left-wing schoolboys and students to elitist pricks who know how you should live your lives, while you pay them to administer that.
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Post by philincalifornia on Nov 24, 2014 18:16:37 GMT 1
Even though the BBC gives approx 50 times as much air time to UKIP than the Greens and the EU central bank forced right wing austerity politics on Greece, Spain and Italy.You mean they ran out of other people's money ?
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Post by hypotenuse on Nov 24, 2014 19:15:53 GMT 1
Not the point that I was making, Phil. However, if you want an analogy, imagine taking out a 25 year mortgage and then, suddenly, after a couple of years, being forced to repay it in 5 years. Not sensible. The world works on debt. Japan tried austerity in 1992 and had a 20 year deflationary spiral. Not sensible.
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Post by philincalifornia on Nov 24, 2014 19:40:20 GMT 1
Not the point that I was making, Phil. However, if you want an analogy, imagine taking out a 25 year mortgage and then, suddenly, after a couple of years, being forced to repay it in 5 years. Not sensible. The world works on debt. Japan tried austerity in 1992 and had a 20 year deflationary spiral. Not sensible. Yeah, I knew that wasn't your point, and we may not see things the same way, or maybe we do. I look at the modern "liberal" (mostly totalitarian wannabe) as neomonarchists who want to claim their tithes and taxes from their drones by lying to the low information voters through propaganda. So medieval right wing by the monarchist-type definition. Why do you see the BBC and EU as right wing, given the fact that they spend half their fking lives pretending they're lefties (make that 99%) ?
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Post by gledholt terrier on Nov 24, 2014 20:00:58 GMT 1
Not the point that I was making, Phil. However, if you want an analogy, imagine taking out a 25 year mortgage and then, suddenly, after a couple of years, being forced to repay it in 5 years. Not sensible. The world works on debt. Japan tried austerity in 1992 and had a 20 year deflationary spiral. Not sensible. Yeah, I knew that wasn't your point, and we may not see things the same way, or maybe we do. I look at the modern "liberal" (mostly totalitarian wannabe) as neomonarchists who want to claim their tithes and taxes from their drones by lying to the low information voters through propaganda. So medieval right wing by the monarchist-type definition. Why do you see the BBC and EU as right wing, given the fact that they spend half their fking lives pretending they're lefties (make that 99%) ? Interesting. The left, particularly in the US (which is about as left wing as wet Tories over here) make exactly the same complaint about the right. Having said that, they can point to the proven liars at Fox, Limbaugh, Hannity, etc, etc. Our national broadcasters are still governed by principles of fair play and even handed reporting (something the U.S. abandoned under Reagan) - it might not be perfect but the mechanisms to complain are in place. The Tory attacks on the BBC (rather left to the likes of the Mail these days) always had the agenda of deregulating the fairness doctrine. Hopefully, it'll never work.
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Post by philincalifornia on Nov 24, 2014 20:09:37 GMT 1
That's sort of my point actually.
The Pelosi/Reid regime here is as fake-socialist as your champagne liberals. It's all a big neomonarchist power grab.
I can't take the BBC seriously any more, given their mega-lying on the climate change fraud. It's orchestrated dishonesty. Not a conspiracy theory - it's public knowledge that they put together meetings to conspire how to dupe the public. Disgusting and I'll never get my news from those creeps until the liars have been kicked out.
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Post by gledholt terrier on Nov 24, 2014 20:18:59 GMT 1
That's sort of my point actually. The Pelosi/Reid regime here is as fake-socialist as your champagne liberals. It's all a big neomonarchist power grab. I can't take the BBC seriously any more, given their mega-lying on the climate change fraud. It's orchestrated dishonesty. Not a conspiracy theory - it's public knowledge that they put together meetings to conspire how to dupe the public. Disgusting and I'll never get my news from those creeps until the liars have been kicked out. Well, probably best I don't go there! If 97%+ of scientific opinion doesn't convince you, I'm buggered!
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Post by philincalifornia on Nov 24, 2014 20:27:27 GMT 1
That's sort of my point actually. The Pelosi/Reid regime here is as fake-socialist as your champagne liberals. It's all a big neomonarchist power grab. I can't take the BBC seriously any more, given their mega-lying on the climate change fraud. It's orchestrated dishonesty. Not a conspiracy theory - it's public knowledge that they put together meetings to conspire how to dupe the public. Disgusting and I'll never get my news from those creeps until the liars have been kicked out. Well, probably best I don't go there! If 97%+ of scientific opinion doesn't convince you, I'm buggered! No do go there. I'll set you straight - maybe in the off topic thread that was just bumped. I'm a real scientist. The 97% paper is documented fraud, by a former cartoonist and non-scientist. ... but of course, that's irrelevant as it is scientific facts that are relevant here not people's opinions - not his, not mine, not yours, and there aren't any !!! EDIT: Name one of the 97%, and one fact ever published by him or her that shows any relationship between CO2 going from 280ppm to 400pm in ANY climate parameter. Don't bother trying ... there isn't one.
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Post by gledholt terrier on Nov 24, 2014 20:35:38 GMT 1
Well, probably best I don't go there! If 97%+ of scientific opinion doesn't convince you, I'm buggered! No do go there. I'll set you straight - maybe in the off topic thread that was just bumped. I'm a real scientist. The 97% paper is documented fraud, by a former cartoonist and non-scientist. ... but of course, that's irrelevant as it is scientific facts that are relevant here not people's opinions - not his, not mine, not yours, and there aren't any !!! EDIT: Name one of the 97%, and one fact ever published by him or her that shows any relationship between CO2 going from 280ppm to 400pm in ANY climate parameter. Don't bother trying ... there isn't one. Seriously, I won't be bothering!
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Post by Captainslapper on Nov 24, 2014 20:39:15 GMT 1
Even though the BBC gives approx 50 times as much air time to UKIP than the Greens and the EU central bank forced right wing austerity politics on Greece, Spain and Italy. The Greens FFS!! Are they still even going? Thats like saying the BBC give 50 times the coverage to Chelsea than they do Liversedge Town! Most of the coverage they do give UKIP is heavily stained with a left wing agenda to portray them as racists. It used to be so blatant it was untrue but as UKIPs support has grown theyve had to reign it in somewhat and take them more seriously, knowing that a large % of the electorate aren't falling for that blinkered crap anymore. And cutting back your spending when you don't have any money is a right wing thing now is it? Well its common sense so it probably is.
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Post by gledholt terrier on Nov 24, 2014 20:42:20 GMT 1
Even though the BBC gives approx 50 times as much air time to UKIP than the Greens and the EU central bank forced right wing austerity politics on Greece, Spain and Italy. The Greens FFS!! Are they still even going? Thats like saying the BBC give 50 times the coverage to Chelsea than they do Liversedge Town! Most of the coverage they do give UKIP is heavily stained with a left wing agenda to portray them as racists. It used to be so blatant it was untrue but as UKIPs support has grown theyve had to reign it in somewhat and take them more seriously, knowing that a large % of the electorate aren't falling for that blinkered crap anymore. And cutting back your spending when you don't have any money is a right wing thing now is it? Well its common sense so it probably is. Or, in other words, scrutiny.
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Post by bluedogs, Esq. on Nov 24, 2014 20:49:44 GMT 1
Well, probably best I don't go there! If 97%+ of scientific opinion doesn't convince you, I'm buggered! No do go there. I'll set you straight - maybe in the off topic thread that was just bumped. I'm a real scientist. The 97% paper is documented fraud, by a former cartoonist and non-scientist. ... but of course, that's irrelevant as it is scientific facts that are relevant here not people's opinions - not his, not mine, not yours, and there aren't any !!! EDIT: Name one of the 97%, and one fact ever published by him or her that shows any relationship between CO2 going from 280ppm to 400pm in ANY climate parameter. Don't bother trying ... there isn't one. I was hoping you was Philly Jesus
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 21:12:36 GMT 1
Nearly all the comedy in the US is made by Jewish producers/comedians and they use all the stereotypes.its a good thing to be able to laugh at yourself. My mates Irish and texts me the thick paddy jokes all the time.its a laugh that's all. Who stands up for gingers ..?? Always cast as geeks/virgins in the films. Calling a Jew tight has fuck all to do with hitler and the gas chambers its a joke stereotype. Sadly a stereotype doesn't seem to exist anymore, it's now just racist. People have got the 2 words horrifically mixed up. You might be surprised, but you're wrong. There are so many academics studying this - two discourses still exist. One is racism, and the other is stereotyping. Lots of people often with limited knowledges of the aforementioned discourses, think that stereotyping and racism are one and the same. That's inaccurate, because stereotyping is a form of racism.
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Post by philincalifornia on Nov 24, 2014 21:38:54 GMT 1
No do go there. I'll set you straight - maybe in the off topic thread that was just bumped. I'm a real scientist. The 97% paper is documented fraud, by a former cartoonist and non-scientist. ... but of course, that's irrelevant as it is scientific facts that are relevant here not people's opinions - not his, not mine, not yours, and there aren't any !!! EDIT: Name one of the 97%, and one fact ever published by him or her that shows any relationship between CO2 going from 280ppm to 400pm in ANY climate parameter. Don't bother trying ... there isn't one. Seriously, I won't be bothering! Please say Hi to the tooth fairy for me then
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Post by philincalifornia on Nov 24, 2014 21:42:09 GMT 1
No do go there. I'll set you straight - maybe in the off topic thread that was just bumped. I'm a real scientist. The 97% paper is documented fraud, by a former cartoonist and non-scientist. ... but of course, that's irrelevant as it is scientific facts that are relevant here not people's opinions - not his, not mine, not yours, and there aren't any !!! EDIT: Name one of the 97%, and one fact ever published by him or her that shows any relationship between CO2 going from 280ppm to 400pm in ANY climate parameter. Don't bother trying ... there isn't one. I was hoping you was Philly Jesus Town would get better results if I was, and there'd be free bread, fish and wine at half time.
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Post by gledholt terrier on Nov 24, 2014 21:49:20 GMT 1
Seriously, I won't be bothering! Please say Hi to the tooth fairy for me then I won't be goaded! I've seen the vortex which constitutes this particular on line debate.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Nov 24, 2014 21:55:46 GMT 1
philly. I switched a couple of lights off today and the security lights are now of a lesser wattage.. im doing my bit..
hotter summers and wetter winters??? ill take it..
wind power and shit power would seem that the first place to wire up would be the House of Commons???
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Post by galpharm2400 on Nov 24, 2014 22:00:52 GMT 1
btw, the con was easy to spot.. not enough incentives to cut power use whilst most of the incentives seem to be to purchase and use the 'new green power' providers? ? I guess most politicians got on the global warming/climate change gravy train very early on..seems they knew they wouldn't really ever have to prove very much to get enough onside to carry it off..
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