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Dec 12, 2014 0:45:17 GMT 1
Post by bantam10 on Dec 12, 2014 0:45:17 GMT 1
He scored past a few teams even burton weren't no mugs...he's a championship striker all day long and quality on his day people need to know that. if it doesn't work out he will come back home to valley parade:)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2014 1:06:04 GMT 1
He scored past a few teams even burton weren't no mugs...he's a championship striker all day long and quality on his day people need to know that. if it doesn't work out he will come back home to valley parade:) Come on then, which specific teams besides Villa and the mighty Burton did he score against in that cup run? I'm intrigued, its like its a secret nobody wants to spill! I want to know just what level of team he scored against that defines him as a "Championship striker"...cos he doesnt look like one to me, his technique is quite poor, and he doesn't seem to have the mental strength required. He feels like he'll never likely be more than a stop gap bit part to me. Hopefully Holt has taken a bit of pressure away from him being the main man whilst Vaughan was out, and he'll start to come out a bit more invigorated from that in time. I REALLY want him to do well, cos he's one of those players that excites when hes on his game.
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Dec 13, 2014 5:44:49 GMT 1
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Post by bantam10 on Dec 13, 2014 5:44:49 GMT 1
Mate doesn't matter fact is he's still scored and did well.. Goal scorer of course he's a championship striker what you on.. If he doesn't do well as your jinxing him then he will return home.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2014 9:30:04 GMT 1
I'm going to remind you lot...WElls did score goals against Aston Villa and other teams in the league cup who were quality opposition
Come on, still waiting for the reminder.
WHO were these other quality teams that you use to justify Nahkis credentials as a Championship quality striker?
He WASNT a Championship quality striker whilst with Bradford, we paid over the odds for him at the time, hopefully he will go on to establish himself as one at Town.
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Dec 14, 2014 3:47:46 GMT 1
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Post by bantam10 on Dec 14, 2014 3:47:46 GMT 1
54 goals in 74 apps for bradford decent player
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Dec 14, 2014 11:00:22 GMT 1
Post by kennyk2 on Dec 14, 2014 11:00:22 GMT 1
An interesting thought just occurred to me.
Would you rather have Wells banging the goals in for fun for a mediocre Championship side, with the likelihood that we'll be able to sell him for a profit in January or next summer?
Or, spend a couple of seasons here getting 15 goals a season and then hit 25 for us during a promotion push.
It might be a good thing that he's not scoring too many at the moment - the thought was at the end of last season that he was too good for us and we'ed be lucky to keep hold of him this season.
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Dec 14, 2014 11:14:03 GMT 1
Post by trailingleg on Dec 14, 2014 11:14:03 GMT 1
Mate doesn't matter fact is he's still scored and did well.. Goal scorer of course he's a championship striker what you on.. If he doesn't do well as your jinxing him then he will return home. I got a strong impression that he considered Ipswich to be his spiritual UK home. Good Jacko signing though. He must have had us in mind at the time.
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Dec 14, 2014 17:55:46 GMT 1
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Post by Giggity on Dec 14, 2014 17:55:46 GMT 1
Did he continue getting into the right areas and getting on the end of chances?
Its time Vaughan or even Danny Ward was given a chance over him.
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Dec 28, 2014 22:11:30 GMT 1
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Post by midge on Dec 28, 2014 22:11:30 GMT 1
Like I said and was scoffed at- natural goalscorer!!
Not another player in the club who could have shown the pace to move on to that pass and finish in the way he did today!!
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Post by hypotenuse on Dec 28, 2014 22:19:41 GMT 1
I have been critical of aspects of his game in previous posts but the finish today belied the length of time since his last goal - it was classy and composed. I hope it is the start of a bit of a scoring run for him.
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Dec 28, 2014 22:19:57 GMT 1
Post by shawsie on Dec 28, 2014 22:19:57 GMT 1
Like I said and was scoffed at- natural goalscorer!! Not another player in the club who could have shown the pace to move on to that pass and finish in the way he did today!! Stop trying to educate pork midge!
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Post by terriersyndrome on Dec 28, 2014 22:46:47 GMT 1
Last season Wells played 22 games & scored 7.. This season he's played 22 games & scored 10.. Goal stats don't lie.. Nearly a 1 in 2 ratio this season.. Don't understand what some people want? Players like this are worth their weight in gold, particularly in the championship.. Bargain for £1.3m imo!
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Post by netterriers4 on Dec 28, 2014 23:25:05 GMT 1
Like I said and was scoffed at- natural goalscorer!! Not another player in the club who could have shown the pace to move on to that pass and finish in the way he did today!! Said before the game on twitter he was a talent and got scoffed at by two mongs who I had never heard of - couldn't finish his tea type remarks. One chance, one goal. Boy will be top class but he needs to play!! Not sure how Powell sees him and Vaughan as too samey - very different to me. Implication was they wouldn't be playing together any time soon!!
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Dec 28, 2014 23:29:50 GMT 1
Post by SaudiTerrier on Dec 28, 2014 23:29:50 GMT 1
Last season Wells played 22 games & scored 7.. This season he's played 22 games & scored 10.. Goal stats don't lie.. Nearly a 1 in 2 ratio this season.. Don't understand what some people want? Players like this are worth their weight in gold, particularly in the championship.. Bargain for £1.3m imo! Good stats, but crazy to think how much better those stats would be (and how much better our results would be) if he took a few more of those numerous chances he had in the past few games.
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Dec 28, 2014 23:30:58 GMT 1
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Post by Grandfather Berty of Cleck on Dec 28, 2014 23:30:58 GMT 1
Like I said and was scoffed at- natural goalscorer!! Not another player in the club who could have shown the pace to move on to that pass and finish in the way he did today!! Said before the game on twitter he was a talent and got scoffed at by two mongs who I had never heard of - couldn't finish his tea type remarks. One chance, one goal. Boy will be top class but he needs to play!! Not sure how Powell sees him and Vaughan as too samey - very different to me. Implication was they wouldn't be playing together any time soon!! Powell did say ont radio that he couldn't wait for Vaughan to get 100% fit as he was excited at the thought of Vaughan and Wells playing together.
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Post by Gold Coast Terrier on Dec 29, 2014 8:23:13 GMT 1
I remember when lots of people on here wanted to sell Rhodes to Barnsley for £1 Mill because he kept missing chances (including a few sitters against Leeds).
There was also a time when some people would rather have Graham Carey in the team instead of Pilks because he was seen to be more consistent.
When it clicks into place for Wells we'll be very happy we invested the time in his development.
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Dec 29, 2014 10:44:58 GMT 1
Post by yorkie1 on Dec 29, 2014 10:44:58 GMT 1
Think Wells will prove to be a good investment in the medium term. Still improving.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2014 11:02:06 GMT 1
I think if we sign a James Hanson kind of player in the window, wells will prove how good he is.
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Post by walshy on Dec 29, 2014 11:14:20 GMT 1
I think if we sign a James Hanson kind of player in the window, wells will prove how good he is.
I'm not entirely sure if I follow that statement, and Wooley I normally agree with most you say. But, surely a good player can adapt and play with anyone? Of course, playing alongside a big man to win the arial battles etc helps him, but saying signing a big man to allow Wells to prove it? Do I think Wells should be playing week in week out, yes, you can't teach naturally finishers. I think Powell is doing a good job with Wells, keeping him out of the limelight a little while he regains form is only a good thing, knowing what the town faithful are like. 1 minute someone is a world beater, next thing they should be being sold to Bradford Park Avenue. To give you an example. I personally think Smithies is a quality goalkeeper. Stick 10 Real Madrid players in front of him, and he'll prove how good he is... But because we aren't that good, he gets tested more. Law of averages suggests more crosses that come into the box, he's going to eventually drop one, more shots at him he's eventually going to let a cheap/soft goal in. It's almost the same as the Wells proving to be good argument.... Wells is going to miss chances because he gets into many a game, he takes more shots than any of our strikers. I remember reading stats on Cristiano Ronaldo (Arguably the best striker on the planet right now) a season or 2 back. For every 3 shots he has he had a ratio of 1 goal. 9 shots = 3 goals. Nobody remembers his misses though.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2014 11:40:21 GMT 1
I think I may have mislead Walshy, of course players can and should adapt.
However, they all have their strengths and weaknesses. Wells idea of a perfect ball is the one that Hogg delivered, straight down the middle yesterday, and he proved what he can do. Beckford was (still is) the same. A target man would be the perfect route for those kind of balls but our attacks under the current team are down the flanks and then a ball in which doesn't suit his style of play.
I'm not for one minute saying he won't score from those, he clearly already has but his bread and butter in my opinion is to play off a big man.
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Dec 29, 2014 13:42:53 GMT 1
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Post by AndySk on Dec 29, 2014 13:42:53 GMT 1
Clearly our most effective striker. Will be on the bench for Reading game no doubt
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Post by Solid Snake on Dec 29, 2014 14:06:02 GMT 1
Looked very calm and cool when he put that away yesterday
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Dec 29, 2014 14:08:18 GMT 1
Post by Skint Terriers on Dec 29, 2014 14:08:18 GMT 1
and the obsession starts again zzzzz
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2014 15:10:47 GMT 1
and the obsession starts again zzzzz Well done, very valued contribution to this topic.
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Dec 29, 2014 18:16:00 GMT 1
Post by goodshot (FGS) on Dec 29, 2014 18:16:00 GMT 1
Looked very calm and cool when he put that away yesterday It was a great natural finish - harder than the ones he missed v Wednesday. Judging from CP's comments on why he went with Vaughan and Bunn rather than Vaughan and Wells its difficult to see how Nahki will get regular starts. CP doesn't see Vaughan as the big man to Wells' little man.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Dec 29, 2014 18:24:00 GMT 1
he was exactly the right type of striker to come on towards the end yesterday..big lads had run out of steam.. if the town team win the ball higher up the pitch it follows that the ball to wells wont be high/long/hopeful? the round pegs in round holes does not just mean the initial selection...
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Dec 29, 2014 20:03:34 GMT 1
Post by goodshot (FGS) on Dec 29, 2014 20:03:34 GMT 1
he was exactly the right type of striker to come on towards the end yesterday..big lads had run out of steam.. if the town team win the ball higher up the pitch it follows that the ball to wells wont be high/long/hopeful? the round pegs in round holes does not just mean the initial selection... That's right - never start a match with a little un upfront. Its interesting watching most of the top sides now. They don't do hopeful balls into the box anymore unless its Hail Mary time. Even when they get into great positions in and around the box they tend to always look for a man rather than lamp it across in hope, or pull back and start again. I find it a bit frustrating but I expect some statto might have worked out its advantageous to do that? Graham Taylor's statto used to tell him that his teams should get the ball into the box with as few passes as possible. It always annoys me when we have free kicks around the halfway line and we play them backwards or sideways or short in order to start a "move". They should all be launched towards the penalty spot. Am I a dinosaur?
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Post by Gold Coast Terrier on Dec 30, 2014 0:56:22 GMT 1
Depends how much faith you have in your ball rentention really. Stats show on average that patterns of play with the greatest number of passes are the most likely to result in a goal (That doesn't mean playing it between your back four for 20 passes before launching it).
You're least likely to score from a route one pass, but you can have lots of efforts at route one you you can play the percentages.
If you have players who can keep the ball and consistently string build up play together then that's a good option, but if you tend to lose posession after three passes then lumping it in the box will likely pay off more for you.
Keeping it Wells related, he's at his best when the balls in front of him and he's got 30 yards to make against his marker. Whether that's nudged in front of him like Bolton, or lumped up and missed by the central defender like Reading last year.
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Dec 30, 2014 1:00:15 GMT 1
Post by Giggity on Dec 30, 2014 1:00:15 GMT 1
Nice to see Wells passing the ball into the net instead of trying to lace it. He's had a few chances of late against Sheffield Wednesday and Brentford where he has unsuccessfully gone for power instead of precision in one on one situations. Don't know why more strikers don't do it. Rhodes was the master of it.
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Dec 30, 2014 1:27:07 GMT 1
Post by ACW on Dec 30, 2014 1:27:07 GMT 1
he was exactly the right type of striker to come on towards the end yesterday..big lads had run out of steam.. if the town team win the ball higher up the pitch it follows that the ball to wells wont be high/long/hopeful? the round pegs in round holes does not just mean the initial selection... That's right - never start a match with a little un upfront. Its interesting watching most of the top sides now. They don't do hopeful balls into the box anymore unless its Hail Mary time. Even when they get into great positions in and around the box they tend to always look for a man rather than lamp it across in hope, or pull back and start again. I find it a bit frustrating but I expect some statto might have worked out its advantageous to do that? Graham Taylor's statto used to tell him that his teams should get the ball into the box with as few passes as possible. It always annoys me when we have free kicks around the halfway line and we play them backwards or sideways or short in order to start a "move". They should all be launched towards the penalty spot. Am I a dinosaur?I think playing with variety is the way to go. Play some short, some longer - keep the opposition guessing. That said, if you are going to launch it long I would rather we created better angles for the high ball, particularly when they are in central positions. Launching the ball long into the box from central areas will always favour the defenders so in those situations I would either pass it wider so the long ball can come in from a better angle, or pass it short and start a better move. How many goals come from straight, high balls played into the box? Not many - certainly not from Town. Are you a dinosaur? If you want every single free kick, wherever it maybe on the pitch, knocked into the box long then yes, I would say you are a bit old-fashioned. Nothing wrong with the playing some long, particularly if they are taken from wide positions, but not on the halfway line when in a central position. As for the top sides - no, they don't knock free kicks into the box unless they are very near the 18 yard line. They just see the free kick as a quick re-start of play. They take throw ins in the same way - very free long throws up the line - most are taken quickly and short to the nearest player in space. Town are getting better at throws this season, but we still like to throw them long up the line a bit too much for my liking.
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